Your Ultimate Emotional Songs

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11-26-2006, 01:36 AM
Gilly

Your Ultimate Emotional Songs

EVERYONE has these, and you know the ones I'm talking about :P
Be sure to include the meanings

I have a few:

The Who - Behind Blue Eyes (This is the ultimate one for me; like, every single fucking word; no joke. Senior year...I can't even begin to explain :shock: )
Marilyn Manson - The Nobodies (AAAHH! High school, anybody? :P)
Phish - Dirt (Grampa)
The Beatles - She's Leaving Home (me and my parents, the narrative of what I never had the balls to do, heh)
Beck - The Golden Age (Again, senior year...)
Billy Joel - The Piano Man (Gah, just can't not love it/want to relate)
11-26-2006, 01:50 AM
aestrivex

ugh. i can say with perfect honesty that i absolutely detest this awful genre.

almost worse than rap.
11-26-2006, 01:55 AM
Gilly

You just suck :?

Each and every one of those songs is from a different genre. So lick, lick, lick my nuts.
11-26-2006, 02:08 AM
maze

Damn, the video got me teary-eyed. Awww
First day of my life

I've yet to burry anyone that I love, don't have the experience/feelings of such an event, but this song takes me to that imaginary place!
Tears in Heaven
11-26-2006, 02:18 AM
Mea

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Originally Posted by maze

Damn, the video got me teary-eyed. Awww
I've yet to burry anyone that I love, don't have the experience/feelings of such an event, but this song takes me to that imaginary place!
Tears in Heaven

:( Tears in Heaven, love that song. And the sad story behind it. :(
11-26-2006, 02:29 AM
oyburger

I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional :?
11-26-2006, 02:32 AM
Gilly

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Originally Posted by oyburger

I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional :?

This makes me sad :( Songs, books, stories, etc. are the things that keep me anchored. Sometimes I think I'd feel adrift without them.
11-26-2006, 02:35 AM
UDP

There's nothing quite like emotional drama to get me going
11-26-2006, 02:36 AM
Gilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by maze

Damn, the video got me teary-eyed. Awww
First day of my life

The one guy sitting alone just staring makes me sad :(
11-26-2006, 02:36 AM
Gilly

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Originally Posted by UDP II

There's nothing quite like emotional drama to get me going

I'm the same way, but the drama itself only lasts so long.
11-26-2006, 02:37 AM
MysticSonic

"I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional Confused"

Wow, I don't even understand how that's possible. :shock:
11-26-2006, 02:37 AM
oyburger

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Originally Posted by Gilligan

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Originally Posted by oyburger

I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional :?

This makes me sad :( Songs, books, stories, etc. are the things that keep me anchored. Sometimes I think I'd feel adrift without them.

That doesn't mean that I don't enjoy those things. I think these things usually make me feel wistful at the most, but not overwhelmingly gushy.
11-26-2006, 02:38 AM
Gilly

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Originally Posted by MysticSonic

"I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional Confused"

Wow, I don't even understand how that's possible. :shock:

I know, right? Yeeeeessshh...

But you still have to share, MS :P
11-26-2006, 02:38 AM
oyburger

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticSonic

"I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional Confused"

Wow, I don't even understand how that's possible. :shock:

Why is that weird? :shock:
11-26-2006, 02:41 AM
ScarlettLux

Aww, I like this thread. Songs really make me emotional too -- mostly wistful, unbearably nostalgic or just a deep, deep sad

Two-Headed Boy Pt. 2 // Neutral Milk Hotel (woww.. =** is all I can say)

The Triumph of Our Tired Eyes // A Silver. Mt Zion (amazing. goes from bleakly depressing to optimistic & hopeful... terribly affecting on first listen)

Trailer Trash // Modest Mouse (oh man, how can you not shed a tear?)

Spit On A Stranger // Pavement (subtly wistful and leaves a feeling of emptiness afterwards. especially the vid, since this was their last song on their last album </3)

Twin Falls // Built To Spill (NOSTALGIA ... trust meeee, it will just take you back)
11-26-2006, 02:45 AM
MysticSonic

"Why is that weird? Shocked"

Coming from my perspective? Yeah, really weird.

The songs that get me most emotional:

Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons
Emiliana Torrini: Dead Things
Steve Conte: Walk In The Rain

and tons

tons more.
11-26-2006, 02:48 AM
mustachio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan

You just suck :?

Each and every one of those songs is from a different genre. So lick, lick, lick my nuts.

for real! :8*
i mean who doesn't like rap music.

here's my tear-jerker list:

The Fugees: Killing Me Softly
The Police: Every Breath You Take
Procol Harum: Whiter Shade of Pale
2Pac: Dear Mama

can't think of anything else...
11-26-2006, 02:55 AM
Joy

for years "Total Eclipse of the Heart" would illicit a very emotional response from me... long story
11-26-2006, 02:58 AM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustachio

for real! :8*
i mean who doesn't like rap music.

rap music is nonmusical and a glob of random words superimposed on a chord sequence which is played 1000 times in a row.

not fun listening to my ears.
11-26-2006, 03:01 AM
UDP

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyburger

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticSonic

"I can honestly say that I can't think of any songs that make me emotional Confused"

Wow, I don't even understand how that's possible. :shock:

Why is that weird? :shock:

No, it's not.
11-26-2006, 03:13 AM
Gilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joy

for years "Total Eclipse of the Heart" would illicit a very emotional response from me... long story

I hate to be a dick, but I definitely laughed a little :oops:
11-26-2006, 03:14 AM
bg

^^^ I second this :oops:
11-26-2006, 03:25 AM
mustachio

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

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Originally Posted by mustachio

for real! :8*
i mean who doesn't like rap music.

rap music is nonmusical and a glob of random words superimposed on a chord sequence which is played 1000 times in a row.

not fun listening to my ears.

sorry i thought you were describing your posts. actually hiphop is spoken poetry in a language which you obviously don't understand. as for the melody, i don't think you're anywhere near an expert on music so don't try to act like one. perhaps you should stop listening to 50cent and delve deeper in this genre. you might find sounds and rythms which would make your eardrums blossom to their full portential.
11-26-2006, 03:25 AM
jessica129

Whitney Houston "I will always love you".

Turns me in to an emotional wreck.
11-26-2006, 03:30 AM
maze

How 'bout songs that get an emotional rise out of you, yet you don't know what the hell they are about...but...they have a few really cool lines....and you like the overall feel of them! There ya have it. These are my driving with the windows down singing my lungs out songs.

Arrested in Shanghi, rancid

Gigantic, pixies
11-26-2006, 03:32 AM
bg

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Originally Posted by mustachio

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

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Originally Posted by mustachio

for real! :8*
i mean who doesn't like rap music.

rap music is nonmusical and a glob of random words superimposed on a chord sequence which is played 1000 times in a row.

not fun listening to my ears.

sorry i thought you were describing your posts. actually hiphop is spoken poetry in a language which you obviously don't understand. as for the melody, i don't think you're anywhere near an expert on music so don't try to act like one. perhaps you should stop listening to 50cent and delve deeper in this genre. you might find sounds and rythms which would make your eardrums blossom to their full portential.

absolutely... I generally detest what rap has become.. but give me an old Public Enemy or Ice Cube album and I'm all good. Also 90's grower rap is excellent... Arrested Development anyone?! then the genre bending rap bands like Digable Planets are amazing too. Mustachio already mentioned the Fugees... another great rap band

Then the whitey rap and trip hop is excellent as well... Beatie Boyz and Phunk Junkeez. Not eminem though, I pretty much detest Eminem... the guy has no range and people make such a big fucking deal out of him.
11-26-2006, 03:36 AM
eunice

Nothing's gonna change my love for you by George Benson
Love will lead you back by Taylor Dayne
All I Ask of You by Cliff Richard and Sarah Brightman
Undone (The Sweater Song) by Weezer
True Love Waits by Radiohead
11-26-2006, 03:38 AM
eunice

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Originally Posted by Bionicgoat

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Originally Posted by mustachio

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

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Originally Posted by mustachio

for real! :8*
i mean who doesn't like rap music.

rap music is nonmusical and a glob of random words superimposed on a chord sequence which is played 1000 times in a row.

not fun listening to my ears.

sorry i thought you were describing your posts. actually hiphop is spoken poetry in a language which you obviously don't understand. as for the melody, i don't think you're anywhere near an expert on music so don't try to act like one. perhaps you should stop listening to 50cent and delve deeper in this genre. you might find sounds and rythms which would make your eardrums blossom to their full portential.

absolutely... I generally detest what rap has become.. but give me an old Public Enemy or Ice Cube album and I'm all good. Also 90's grower rap is excellent... Arrested Development anyone?! then the genre bending rap bands like Digable Planets are amazing too. Mustachio already mentioned the Fugees... another great rap band

Then the whitey rap and trip hop is excellent as well... Beatie Boyz and Phunk Junkeez. Not eminem though, I pretty much detest Eminem... the guy has no range and people make such a big fucking deal out of him.

I agree. And the rap and hiphop scene these days are..... :8* :lol:
11-26-2006, 03:45 AM
Gilly

I like Eminem. Angsty white guys with drug problems have to stick together! :lol:
11-26-2006, 03:47 AM
bg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan

I like Eminem. Angsty white guys with drug problems have to stick together! :lol:

I just lost all respect for you

jk :lol:
11-26-2006, 03:51 AM
implied

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Originally Posted by Joy

for years "Total Eclipse of the Heart" would illicit a very emotional response from me... long story

lol!

i kind of love this song and i have no idea why. i had a long debate with an INFj friend of mine about whether this song was the inspiration for conor oberst's stage name.

this is one of my emo songs.

http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beatles...nt+to+Tell+You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h1uIByZ1v8 - lately, this is good. not an ultimate, but i like it anyhow.
11-26-2006, 03:56 AM
bg

Pink Floyd- everything but especially The Final Cut (the whole fucking album)

Phish- Bird's of a Feather

Gratefull Dead- Ripple

Gun's and Roses- Patience (cheesy yes.... but you had to be there(highschool moment))
11-26-2006, 04:03 AM
Joy

Quote:

Originally Posted by implied

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Originally Posted by Joy

for years "Total Eclipse of the Heart" would illicit a very emotional response from me... long story

lol!

i kind of love this song and i have no idea why.

there's something about "every now and then I know you'll always be the only boy who wanted me the way that I am"

there's a really long story though... which I can't really go into atm
11-26-2006, 04:08 AM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustachio

sorry i thought you were describing your posts. actually hiphop is spoken poetry in a language which you obviously don't understand. as for the melody, i don't think you're anywhere near an expert on music so don't try to act like one.

my father is a professional freelance musician who majored in music and has made a career in music. (who makes instruments out of trash or inconspicuous components). as a result, "high" classical/jazz music and music theory have been intermittent parts of my upbringing (as well as the rest of the bizarre crap he listens to... you can't imagine). i furthermore have played the trumpet for the last five years and have learned enough about the theory to possess some knowledge of music theory. so, under any circumstances, i don't profess to be a musical historian but i have unsuspectingly and subconsciously acquired a fair amount of knowlege in the subject.

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perhaps you should stop listening to 50cent and delve deeper in this genre. you might find sounds and rythms which would make your eardrums blossom to their full portential.

perhaps true, but i find no desire to further explore the genre.
11-26-2006, 04:10 AM
mustachio

i know an ISTp who really liked this song -- Total Eclipse -- after hearing an altered version of it on the movie Old School (or something of the like). i think he felt pretty embarrassed when he saw the clip of the original. even i was embarrassed for the guy.

as for Niff, you mean to tell me that you know jazz and know nothing about hiphop?
11-26-2006, 04:21 AM
bg

I don't know the name of the song but the one that played at the end of Donnie Darko when they're showing everybody's life after Donnie takes the plane engine in the face... it's also the music for a new video game commercial....

aha Wikipedia says "Mad World"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F7RdeAYf5c
11-26-2006, 04:27 AM
mustachio

i like Donnie Darko a lot. makes me feel all gay in the morning. :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR91Rj1ZN1M

Shatner-gay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojmoA-MrAp8
11-26-2006, 04:31 AM
oyburger

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Originally Posted by mustachio

i like Donnie Darko a lot. makes me feel all gay in the morning. :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR91Rj1ZN1M

Yeah, I like that song.
11-26-2006, 05:27 AM
Gilly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bionicgoat

I don't know the name of the song but the one that played at the end of Donnie Darko when they're showing everybody's life after Donnie takes the plane engine in the face... it's also the music for a new video game commercial....

aha Wikipedia says "Mad World"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F7RdeAYf5c

YEAH! I like that one. Definitely belongs in this category.
11-26-2006, 05:55 AM
olduser

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

everything he says about rap

yeah, so rap is repetive and a jumble of words --doesn't matter. there's hip hop production! so extravagant, expensive, deep, and really making use of the entirety of available musical technology. But whatever, you are a serious dude who knows serious shit-- go play your dad's trashcans.

nah really, you are right. Most of rap is bad, and really cheap too. But I dunno, your dad's trashcans are too interesting and I needed a reason to use them in sentence.
11-26-2006, 06:06 AM
Joy

lalalala
11-26-2006, 07:17 AM
FDG

There are most definitely a few. I'll order them by how much they are able to move me:

1)Savatage - Believe
2)The Cure - Pictures of You
3)Skid Row - I remember You
4)R Kelly - If I could turn back the hands of time
5)Robbie Williams - She's the One
11-26-2006, 01:40 PM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustachio

as for Niff, you mean to tell me that you know jazz and know nothing about hiphop?

don't even try to compare it with jazz. apples and oranges.
11-26-2006, 01:40 PM
aestrivex

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Originally Posted by heath

nah really, you are right. Most of rap is bad, and really cheap too. But I dunno, your dad's trashcans are too interesting and I needed a reason to use them in sentence.

lol
11-26-2006, 03:17 PM
mustachio

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

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Originally Posted by mustachio

as for Niff, you mean to tell me that you know jazz and know nothing about hiphop?

don't even try to compare it with jazz. apples and oranges.

you're an ignorant. have you ever heard Jazzmatazz, the Digable Planets, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, The Pharcyde, The Roots, Mos Def, Common, Nas' first album, not to mention Herbie Hancock? i don't need to compare it to jazz, hiphop has been inspired by it. do you even know jazz and what it's become? your knowledge of hiphop is strictly superficial so your opinion on it is childish and dismissable. as for the state of music today, well i'd say that it isn't only hiphop that's decadent but everything pop. look for genuine artists like Kanye West, Blackstar, Dead Prez, all productions by Dr Dre, Pharell, Missy Elliot and Timbaland (some sounds might remind you of crying babies, frogs and your dad's trash cans).
11-26-2006, 03:20 PM
aestrivex

obviously we view the field of jazz very differently. your definition of jazz is clearly different from mine.
11-26-2006, 03:25 PM
oyburger

I finally thought of one:
Ruby Soho-Rancid

...abandonment
11-26-2006, 03:40 PM
mustachio

Quote:

Originally Posted by niffweed17

obviously we view the field of jazz very differently. your definition of jazz is clearly different from mine.

jazz is quite large indeed. i'm curious, what is your definition of it exactly?
11-26-2006, 04:11 PM
aestrivex

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Originally Posted by mustachio

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

obviously we view the field of jazz very differently. your definition of jazz is clearly different from mine.

jazz is quite large indeed. i'm curious, what is your definition of it exactly?

i don't know if i could define it very well. however, much of what is considered contemporary jazz is not jazz at all; it may be rock music or something similar which has incorporated several basic elements of jazz; i.e. contemporary blues or fusion, or similar styles. i do not really consider these to be jazz. what i think of when i think jazz is more what jazz was at its origin.
11-26-2006, 04:26 PM
mustachio

in the late 80's and early 90's a lot of groups including some that i mentioned before incorporated samples of jazz music into their sound. it sounded like jazz with an mc spitting rhymes on it. it was a trend prolly inspired by Spike Lee's movies. it was like the rebirth of jazz in another genre. also, noted jazz musician Herbie Hancock successfully tried his hand at rap music. today, some artists still infuse elements of jazz music in their compositions like the Roots and Mos Def.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkgE-dCsVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_ghZ6a17rY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7kb2q35GE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAp9cyv47Yc
11-26-2006, 04:56 PM
aestrivex

of those four, only the third one sounded even remotely like jazz. to the other three i listened for about a minute and then got bored.

the third in that list clearly incorporates some elements from classical jazz, but the lyrics sound very out of place in classical jazz because the same melody is repeated over and over. while such repetition does occur in jazz, it definitely does not do so to the extent of this piece. furthermore, the bass was walking to the same exact chords over and over, while the instrumental melodies were also the same. essentially, the piece started off interesting but the lack of variations made it very nonmusical IMO. i would agree with you that this obviously is inspired by jazz and incorporates some elements of jazz, but there's no way i would consider it actual jazz.
11-26-2006, 05:35 PM
mustachio

classical jazz? what are you a purist? music isn't meant to stale but constantly change thanks to its new owners. it isn't actual jazz, it's blended with hip hop. and your knowledge of jazz is astoundingly small as you can't even recognize it in the other songs. repetition in the melody is a fundamental element in hiphop since it started by sampling other music. the mc serves as an instrument. his lyrics are the solo performance which the listener must focus his attention on. it is the language of the oppressed conveying ideas and images of protest. it is highly influenced by jazzy poets Gwendolyn Brooks, Gil Scott-Heron and Amiri Baraka. like jazz alot of the lyrics are improvised. it isn't set in stone and keeps changing according to pop culture.
11-26-2006, 05:54 PM
Animal

Quote:

Originally Posted by niffweed17

what i think of when i think jazz is more what jazz was at its origin.

This is an interesting statement, considering that even jazz historians (yes, there are such people) have a difficult time pinpointing exactly where jazz emerged as a genre, independent of its influences. It's extremely difficult to separate early jazz from the Creole, ragtime, blues, and spiritual musical that eventually made their way into the melting pot that became jazz (and, arguably, all of American popular music). There is no point at which one can definitively separate Jelly roll Morton's freestyle rags from Artie Shaw's freestyle top-40s.

There are actually many (Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Wynton Marsalis included - and don't just look them up on Wikipedia, lol; go and read their words, study their "sound" and musical acumen, and listen to their music) who would argue that there never has actually been any clear indication that there was any "standard" sound/protocol/sensibility at any point in the history of this music. In fact, if there has been any prerequisite to effective jazz at all, it is abandon of any attachment to such trappings.

If you listen to any one of Ellington's suite arrangements - take Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker for instance, because I'm fond of it and it's that time of year <- it is obvious the man wasn't working for one standardized sensibility. There's a Cuban influence (Dance of the Sugar-Rum Cherry), swing influence (the Overture), and of course, the Blues influence (Arabesque Cookie). The sound is constantly evolving, constantly shifting by the minute. Not for a second, a moment, minute, month, or year was jazz ever in a static state. From the time of Sidney Bechet to Billie Holiday and down to Ellington. Jazz at the hands of each of these artists sounded completely different.

We can justify ourselves by means of theory, but that sort of theory serves only to explain what occurs in realtime. "Theory" is static. Music is dynamic, as should true theory be.

As per hip-hop, basically if you dislike it, by all means go ahead and listen to what you do like. But don't attempt to use a rudimentary understanding of theory to justify it. The sonic experiments of Cage, Schoenberg, Xenakis, et al, serve the selfsame purpose on different fronts - to OPEN minds, not close them. Taste needs no justification. This is to be mutually understood. Other people's taste needs no justification, either.
11-26-2006, 06:40 PM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustachio

classical jazz? what are you a purist? music isn't meant to stale but constantly change thanks to its new owners. it isn't actual jazz, it's blended with hip hop. and your knowledge of jazz is astoundingly small as you can't even recognize it in the other songs. repetition in the melody is a fundamental element in hiphop since it started by sampling other music. the mc serves as an instrument. his lyrics are the solo performance which the listener must focus his attention on. it is the language of the oppressed conveying ideas and images of protest. it is highly influenced by jazzy poets Gwendolyn Brooks, Gil Scott-Heron and Amiri Baraka. like jazz alot of the lyrics are improvised. it isn't set in stone and keeps changing according to pop culture.

if jazz does exist in the other songs, it is obscured by their uninteresting nature.
11-26-2006, 06:47 PM
aestrivex

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Originally Posted by Baby

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

what i think of when i think jazz is more what jazz was at its origin.

This is an interesting statement, considering that even jazz historians (yes, there are such people) have a difficult time pinpointing exactly where jazz emerged as a genre, independent of its influences. It's extremely difficult to separate early jazz from the Creole, ragtime, blues, and spiritual musical that eventually made their way into the melting pot that became jazz (and, arguably, all of American popular music). There is no point at which one can definitively separate Jelly roll Morton's freestyle rags from Artie Shaw's freestyle top-40s.

There are actually many (Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Wynton Marsalis included - and don't just look them up on Wikipedia, lol; go and read their words, study their "sound" and musical acumen, and listen to their music) who would argue that there never has actually been any clear indication that there was any "standard" sound/protocol/sensibility at any point in the history of this music. In fact, if there has been any prerequisite to effective jazz at all, it is abandon of any attachment to such trappings.

i would not necessarily agree completely with all of this, but you have a point. agreed, the creation of jazz is somewhat blurred and was not an immediate phenomenon under any circumstance. despite this, in retrospect, there is unquestionably a style of music known as jazz which, ultimately, differed from other musical styles of the era.

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If you listen to any one of Ellington's suite arrangements - take Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker for instance, because I'm fond of it and it's that time of year <- it is obvious the man wasn't working for one standardized sensibility. There's a Cuban influence (Dance of the Sugar-Rum Cherry), swing influence (the Overture), and of course, the Blues influence (Arabesque Cookie). The sound is constantly evolving, constantly shifting by the minute. Not for a second, a moment, minute, month, or year was jazz ever in a static state. From the time of Sidney Bechet to Billie Holiday and down to Ellington. Jazz at the hands of each of these artists sounded completely different.

We can justify ourselves by means of theory, but that sort of theory serves only to explain what occurs in realtime. "Theory" is static. Music is dynamic, as should true theory be.

As per hip-hop, basically if you dislike it, by all means go ahead and listen to what you do like. But don't attempt to use a rudimentary understanding of theory to justify it. The sonic experiments of Cage, Schoenberg, Xenakis, et al, serve the selfsame purpose on different fronts - to OPEN minds, not close them. Taste needs no justification. This is to be mutually understood. Other people's taste needs no justification, either.

i agree with all of this. however, one thing that you are not really touching on is the gradual differences that are present in the musical styles. indeed, i find jazz musically enriching and the tecniques it developed from other sources that you mention to be interesting.

many of the things that jazz has evolved into, such as hip-hop, to an extent, i fail to find interesting. to the extent that components of jazz are used in these types of music, they are used to supplement the existing, uninteresting music. the mere use of these components does not necessarily indicate that the new piece will be interesting or entertaining just because what it resulted from was.
11-26-2006, 06:48 PM
mustachio

i don't care what you like and what you dislike. but when somebody's opinion is biased by their gross ignorance and musical snot it just makes me think less of them.
11-26-2006, 06:49 PM
Rocky

Emotional songs? No contest.

By far the most emotional song I've ever heard is Immortal Technique's Dancing wid the Devil (I'm not kidding, if you have a weak stomach then don't listen to this song).
11-26-2006, 06:51 PM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustachio

i don't care what you like and what you dislike. but when somebody's opinion is biased by their gross ignorance and musical snot it just makes me think less of them.

similarly.
11-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Rocky

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

ugh. i can say with perfect honesty that i absolutely detest this awful genre.

almost worse than rap.

You don't even know what rap is I bet.
11-26-2006, 07:11 PM
Animal

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

i would not necessarily agree completely with all of this, but you have a point. agreed, the creation of jazz is somewhat blurred and was not an immediate phenomenon under any circumstance. despite this, in retrospect, there is unquestionably a style of music known as jazz which, ultimately, differed from other musical styles of the era.

I agree. But, is it possible to pinpoint where that music known as jazz ends and other music begins? I don't think it is. In retrospect, what we label today as "jazz" is a mass of considerably disparate musics.

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

i agree with all of this. however, one thing that you are not really touching on is the gradual differences that are present in the musical styles.

I agree that the manifestations of the different influences introduced gradual shifts and differences, but those differences were not universal across the field of what we today call jazz. Ellington influenced by samba is different from Armstrong influenced by the same music.

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Originally Posted by niffweed17

many of the things that jazz has evolved into, such as hip-hop, to an extent, i fail to find interesting.

And I think this is where we should end it. This is music you, personally, fail to find interesting. There is not really any theoretical justification, inherent in the music, that suggests hip-hop is quantifiably less "interesting" than jazz. Whatever tickles your cochleas.
11-26-2006, 07:18 PM
Gilly

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Originally Posted by Rocky

Emotional songs? No contest.

By far the most emotional song I've ever heard is Immortal Technique's Dancing wid the Devil (I'm not kidding, if you have a weak stomach then don't listen to this song).

SUCH a good song. But I'm looking for more like...songs that you personally relate to, or that remind you of a certain period in your life, etc...

Oh, and let's cut the bullshit, Niffweed and mustachio. Take it to PM if you have to.
11-26-2006, 08:13 PM
mustachio

it's just insulting to find a person who tries to prove the inferiority of a genre he has absolutely no knowledge of. he doesn't even take the time to listen to it and calls it rubbish because he thinks it's boring. because he hates it, he calls it non-musical or whatever. my father is a classical musician but that doesn't make me the judge of any music. although i know hiphop, and any person who has some knowledge of jazz should see the similarities by the examples i gave.
11-26-2006, 08:27 PM
aestrivex

:8*

you are either demonstrating your lack of knowledge of jazz, hiphop, or both.
11-26-2006, 08:28 PM
Capitalist Pig

lol@niffweed stepping on his own dick itt
11-26-2006, 08:44 PM
science as magic

options

lyrics

turn your volume waaay down before listening
11-26-2006, 09:25 PM
cracka

Quote:

Originally Posted by niffweed17

:8*

you are either demonstrating your lack of knowledge of jazz, hiphop, or both.

Pot calling Kettle... come in Kettle...
http://www.brain-spew.com/forums/ima...ies/violin.gif
For some reason I believe you both "may" know a lot about different music, I'm not one to argue that, but...
Tis a pretty retarded argument to say one knows more of a certain type of music than someone else, when the views of each different type of music are so very opposite of eachother.
http://www.brain-spew.com/forums/ima...ilies/wave.gif
11-26-2006, 09:43 PM
Gilly

Take the fucking music debate somewhere else, or I'm asking Expat to close the thread.

Christ.
11-26-2006, 09:48 PM
cracka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan

Take the fucking music debate somewhere else, or I'm asking Expat to close the thread.

Christ.

says the guy who gets into rather long arguments about type in quite a few threads, on topic or not...lol
j/k btw... :wink: http://www.brain-spew.com/forums/ima...yhijacked2.gif
11-26-2006, 09:56 PM
Gilly

:P

I also tend to move on to a different/new thread/pm when asked.
11-26-2006, 10:00 PM
aestrivex

jeez, gilligan, what's the big deal?
11-26-2006, 10:41 PM
mustachio

well, moving on :8* ...

one song that always gets to me is Wu-Tang Clan+Raekwon's "Can It Be...":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUIZIbbeD3U

meant for the non-music lovers!
11-27-2006, 12:04 AM
maze

I shall believe, Sheryl Crow My semi-duality anthem. Oh the heartbreak. :D

Also, whenever I hear Cindy Lauper's, "Time after Time" and "True Colors," I'm reminded of the lonely times of my youth. I usually turn the station.
11-27-2006, 12:07 AM
Dioklecian

The partisan, by...LEonard Cohen.

I can't find it on youtube.
11-27-2006, 12:07 AM
Dioklecian

Quote:

"The Partisan"

When they poured across the border
I was cautioned to surrender,
this I could not do;
I took my gun and vanished.
I have changed my name so often,
I've lost my wife and children
but I have many friends,
and some of them are with me.

An old woman gave us shelter,
kept us hidden in the garret,
then the soldiers came;
she died without a whisper.

There were three of us this morning
I'm the only one this evening
but I must go on;
the frontiers are my prison.

Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing,
through the graves the wind is blowing,
freedom soon will come;
then we'll come from the shadows.

Les Allemands e'taient chez moi, (The Germans were at my home)
ils me dirent, "Signe toi," (They said, "Sign yourself,")
mais je n'ai pas peur; (But I am not afraid)
j'ai repris mon arme. (I have retaken my weapon.)

J'ai change' cent fois de nom, (I have changed names a hundred times)
j'ai perdu femme et enfants (I have lost wife and children)
mais j'ai tant d'amis; (But I have so many friends)
j'ai la France entie`re. (I have all of France)

Un vieil homme dans un grenier (An old man, in an attic)
pour la nuit nous a cache', (Hid us for the night)
les Allemands l'ont pris; (The Germans captured him)
il est mort sans surprise. (He died without surprise.)

Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing,
through the graves the wind is blowing,
freedom soon will come;
then we'll come from the shadows.
11-27-2006, 12:12 AM
Dioklecian

Some samples

http://www2.vltava.cz/Store/GoodsDet...sID=SE00589215
11-27-2006, 12:19 AM
bg

highschool before I found the Grateful Dead and peace... :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EhYcb1eW1o
11-27-2006, 12:32 AM
bg

Quote:

But I'm looking for more like...songs that you personally relate to, or that remind you of a certain period in your life, etc...

The Story of my Life

What I got

Pepper

totally brings me back to when I was in my early 20s, just dropped out of college, getting drunk, stoned, and spun, no job, no prospects and these cds on endless replay... almost makes me burst over with emotion

but then it's more about how it connects me to those times than what the songs themselves say... well sorta... they all reflect my mindset at the time (and still in some ways :) )
11-27-2006, 12:40 AM
Rocky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky

Emotional songs? No contest.

By far the most emotional song I've ever heard is Immortal Technique's Dancing wid the Devil (I'm not kidding, if you have a weak stomach then don't listen to this song).

SUCH a good song. But I'm looking for more like...songs that you personally relate to, or that remind you of a certain period in your life, etc...

Oh, and let's cut the bullshit, Niffweed and mustachio. Take it to PM if you have to.

Well, since I've never raped and killed my mother, I'd have to say that one song that has personal meaning to me is Almost by Bowling for soup. Don't ask.
11-27-2006, 03:12 AM
Slava

The song at the end of garden state, Let Go... and Cascada's song "cuz every time we touch i get this feeeling, and every time we kiss i want to fly, bla bla bla bla i wont let you go, sooomething something something"
11-27-2006, 07:56 AM
eunice

Björk's Joga
11-27-2006, 10:13 PM
aestrivex

Quote:

Originally Posted by soggy-flakes

Quote:

Originally Posted by niffweed17

ugh. i can say with perfect honesty that i absolutely detest this awful genre.

almost worse than rap.

Why do you hate it so much?

because it is excessively emotional and obnoxious.
12-02-2006, 04:13 AM
Diana

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12-02-2006, 05:44 AM
misutii

I remember these ones:

Frentel ~ Bizarre Love Triangle (cover of the new order song)

London After Midnight ~ Spider and the Fly acoustic version

Bright Eyes ~ A line allows progress, a circle does not

Damien Rice ~ The Blower's Daughter
12-15-2006, 12:03 AM
Dioklecian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dioklecian

The partisan, by...LEonard Cohen.

I can't find it on youtube.

Here it is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ezdZcwgNp...elated&search=
12-15-2006, 12:25 AM
Slacker

Lisa Loeb does a version of Leaving on a Jet Plane? I'll have to find that one :D
12-15-2006, 01:55 AM
mustachio

Amos Lee - Arms of a Woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUcWfIEBqYs

Shelter - Kelly Clarkson and/or Ray Lamontagne (better)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlkVz_yvW8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMoS9...elated&search=
12-15-2006, 02:00 AM
JuJu

Too songs that make me feel, um, emotional, (or want to drink.)

--Dirty Old Town by The Pogues
--Make You Feel My Love by Bob Dylan
12-15-2006, 02:39 AM
Blaze

i'll be showin my age here for sure, but:

Dancing Barefoot, Patti Smith
I'm Leaving You, Scorpions
Moonlight Shadow, Mike Oldfield
Blue Monday, New Order/Orgy
Don't Wanna Fall in Love, Chris Isak
I Feel the Earth Move, Carole King

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