Stigma towards beta types

^(This by the way is another reason why I cannot be EIE>IEI; I do not ignore Fi at all). Despite coming off as Fe base.. Which that can explain through my subtype; IEI2Fe.

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Originally Posted by Karanime

Any type that has Sx as their lead, will value relational intimacy. Fi just probably is more likely than Fe types to be Sx.

It is true that most beta have poor Fi; EIE ignores it directly, LSI has lit lower and is not of it, valuing, and SLE has it as PolR. But I have met an Sx 8 SLE who very much cares about making connection with others, even if he is more focused on harmony. An IEI is built of any beta to be best with Fi, since it does not ignore it, and it still is quite strong.

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I would argued that SX instinctual variant falls more under the line of Se followed by Fe valuers than Fi valuers. Se is basically intensity of external sensation which is compatible with SX. Not to mention that there is a "loss of self" in SX instinctual variant. SX instinctual variant isn't relational connections. It's about feeling intensely (Fe+Se) which is strongly applied to Beta. SX 8s is literally the stereotypical SLE. It's aggressive and intense. You would see more SX 8s in SLE than SP and SO 8s. Betas, in general, are SX dominant. SX dominant are stereotyped as intense. Beta are also stereotyped as intense compared to other quadras. How SX and SLE are connected is that they are intense in everything they do. All or nothing is the slogan of SX dom.

I think SP instinctual variant are more likely to be Serious types (Fi/Te valuers) if anything. Self-Preservation 3s and 8s are cheapskates and thus look like Te valuers because materialism, costs/savings, and being business-like are Te traits. Self-Preservation 4s are less emotionally expressive than the other 4s (given that they are countertype), and this is where Gamma / Delta 4s are at. Not being concerned about the regulations of emotional states and external emotional expression, concerned about building unexpressed relations (like a Japanese businessman), and valuing money-making productivity and pragmatism are traits of Te/Ti valuers and it sounds more like SP/SO (i.e. an SX-blind type) rather than SX type. Self-Preservation 2s is basically @Beautiful sky and she's a Fi/Te valuing type (EII).

By the way, I'm SX/SP SLE and I'm not into making unexpressed social connections with others given that I'm SO-blind. I considered it part of Fi PoLR since there isn't any point of building relations with others especially if there isn't external emotional expression involved.

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Originally Posted by Karanime

^(This by the way is another reason why I cannot be EIE>IEI; I do not ignore Fi at all). Despite coming off as Fe base.. Which that can explain through my subtype; IEI2Fe.

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I am good at Ni too as an EII :) I can infer some wild predictions that arise out of nowhere and take a lot of alone time to “romanticize” I told an SEE one day “you like the scenery of the drive and are going to San Diego” he was so taken aback lol