It explains a lot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Ave
It explains a lot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Ave
ET - INFJ Humanist
https://i.imgur.com/IhgM6wz.jpg
Harmonizing subtype. That's why he seems "ethical"Quote:
Originally Posted by raTG13
did u get typed? @aster
I sent them my first video but I haven’t gotten the second set of questions yet. They said they would send them to me on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ooo
@Uncle Ave have you received your results/ started the process yet?
This isn't really much in the way of a explanation. "Oh-ookayyyyyyy" Well that settles it. /sQuote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
SLIs adventure driven? Not really, they are not adventurous by nature. SLEs' seeking of extreme stimulation and/or acquisition is the polar opposite of SLIs' quiet and conservative activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
I work with a lot of SLI and their idea of an adventure is a trip with a bike and a coffee or beer with a friend. many of them spend their time playing train or truck simulator, taking photos of planes etc. the german stereotype of boring efficiency probably comes from the fact that we have so many people with this type in technical positions. when I talk with SLE they usually tell me how they once slept with 19 girls in a month (without me asking them about this information).
Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Yes, this is Si vs Se. Because the sensing is introverted in Si it is not dependent on outside adventure. But if one could observe the sensing of the Si in the same way as we see the Se engaging in the world, the result would be that both types have experienced as much at the end of the day, but one on the inside and the other on the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by dead account
Of course everyone needs real adventure, so in that way even SLI (and SEIs) need to learn to expand.
I think that's a plenty of adventure compared to LSI document office. They also might like runing in nature. Sounds pretty extreme to me - considerable body load.
Yes, I sent in my second video Tuesday, they said I should get the results soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chakram
So, DarkAngelFireWolf69 typed Suspiria as EIE.
He typed thegreenfaerie as LSI.
These two forum members are DUALS.
LOL I cackledQuote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
Si is internalized sensory information and rooted in the memory of sensing the experience (like the sights, sounds, touch, etc.), not the experience itself (experience itself and present experience is Se). Si doesn’t care about effecting anything (as opposed to Se), because it basically operates via routines. You can’t have memory and automation aka homeostasis if you didn’t have repetition (to establish routines). Now, the issue is how people perceive routine as “boring” and not “adventurous” because Si itself is not adverse to something just because it could be exciting or dangerous or whatever. If an Si person grew up in a family that values doing Indiana Jones type of stuff, they’ve been exposed doing that sort of thing/familiar with “adventure,” then that’s what gives them “homeostasis.” From an outsider POV, someone who goes “adventuring” doesn’t make them Se over Si. And for the record, my LSE uncle and SEI cousins love going “adventuring” out in the wilderness and camp in all sorts of places. They love doing extreme survival shit with no phones and hunt and fish and all that. Whereas for me, Se lead, I can’t fucking stand that shit and find it boring. And it’s not because I haven’t tried it, I’ve done it a handful of times with them growing up and several times as family get together as adults. Me not liking their idea of “adventure” doesn’t turn me into Si nor does it make them Se.
The point of socionics is not to assign actions as indicative of type but to understand why a person’s reasoning lead to them committing the action. You need context.
The “SLE” who slept with 19 chicks in month and brags about it isn’t SLE because he’s promiscuous or brags about it. He could be any type. What’s missing is the context behind the reasoning for such information to come out anyway. Anyone could be promiscuous but their reasoning will differ.
This is not entirely correct. Si has nothing to do with routines, and it is not about memory. You're right it's not about the experience itself (Se). But instead it's about the inner psychic impression. But not memory. Si is just as irrational as Se, but mostly hidden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
“Psychic” impressions creates memories. Memories don’t just come out of nowhere, and homeostasis cannot be achieved without repetition (memory).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
Anything can create memories. That doesn't mean that it is connected to Si. I have no idea why people mention memories with Si, maybe because of MBTI.
Well if that’s an indirect suggestion that I’m going off of MBTi then you’re wrong. I made no mention of such. And you didn’t explain what Si is and how it manifest. If you say I’m wrong, then give me adequate explanation as to why my understanding and analysis of Si is wrong, not just say it’s psychic impressions because really? Wtf does that even mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
Well what is a psychic impression but a recorded memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
Shotgunfingers and thegreenfaerie are typed as IDENTICALS!
The way I experience Si and Se is really not that similar, other than the fact that they are both about what is immediately present.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
I partly agree, repetition/habituation is a natural part of Si, and you can have more low-key and solitary types of adventures like the example you mentioned. But certain activities are more demanding or intense by their nature. (The promiscuous lifestyle being one of them.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
The memory stuff is MBTI though tbh
EIE - beard subtype.Quote:
Originally Posted by khcs
A bald subtype of ENFJ Hamlet exists as well. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Promiscuous lifestyle won’t exclude Si. I’m friends with 4 Alpha SFs who whore around (their body count is well is over 100) while fantasizing that they’ll get a good husband out of all of this (and they want to fix him and have him totally depend on them).Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Repetition creates memory, and automation/routine comes from it. It’s not from MBTI, that’s just what I think makes sense. What is repetition if not memory?
Now just think that people used to say how alike me and Faerie were :8*. Hence, we are identicals. Yeah, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
I have spoken to her on various occasions, and I still do. We are similar, yes, but visibly different once you get past the superficiality of the first glance or the second encounter.
You must pierce a lot of layers if you want to type someone, and you must ask the right questions.
You saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
"Si is internalized sensory information and rooted in the memory of sensing the experience (like the sights, sounds, touch, etc.), not the experience itself (experience itself and present experience is Se)."
that's what I disagree with - Si is seeking a directly apparent experience - one which is pleasant and possibly, though not necessarily, familiar. Something can be pleasant and familiar or it can be pleasant and new.
Once you find a pleasant experience you can "settle into it" and do it on a regular basis to satisfy a need - like sustenance, rest, recreation, whatever. Needs naturally occur in cycles which leads to repetition.
But Si isn’t direct experience, that’s Se. Si is focused on its impressions caused by object's attributes and its impressions are not readily visible in concrete reality, which is indirect. Si establish homeostasis gained from the knowledge of the gathered impression, which is the “memory” data of the object.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Jung said about Si:
Subjective sensation apprehends the background of the physical world rather than its surface. The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor.
Are you sure you aren't Ti base lol? You have pretty good Ti.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
EDIT: /o\ oh my GOD you are D sub..
XD Maybe if I’m typed by DarkAngelFireWolf69 I’ll be LSIQuote:
Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
o.o or you are D subtype.. :thinking: w8 no... N? Ti-Fi is N. Can't beQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
...whaaa LSI-C... maybe.
SLE-N or LSI-C .. hmm hmm.
Attachment 16534Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
Do you agree that you guys are duals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suspiria
I still think baboooshka is an IEI haha :p
https://youtu.be/QYEC4TZsy-Y
Jung's definition of Si is completely different from socionics. He certainly doesn't mention "homeostasis" (and probably not "memory") anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
Is Si more aesthetics in socionics vs in mbti?Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Although it feels a bit unfair and one-sided to answer without Fae chiming in, from my position it looks like this: we have nights out where we rob plushie shops and I take photos for her Instagram stories while she lets me fire AK-47s like a nutcase in the back of her American rover.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
Me and Fae have debated our types for a whole year. We got to the bottom of each other quite viscerally in some aspects, and one of them is emotionality. She did say last year, around January I think, that I am by far more "emotional" than she is (context being that we have voice-chatted pretty often). That's also when she was preeeetty terrified to hear that I can simply strike conversations with strangers on the train about philosophy and how easily I maimed my body as a kid ;p
Pleasantly terrified.
My personal typing of faerie was EII, but my allegiances were leaning more towards ESI or even LII, since I noticed in her patterns an approach that was very similar to another LII girl I used to know, as of late. One thing that I was, and still am sure of, is her IJ temperament, unequivocally.
I saw DarkAngelFireWolf69's analysis of her, word for word. From my humble, outsider, worm-eye view, I think he got her pinned down very well. The typing, as well as DarkAngelFireWolf69's reasoning for having her as an LSI-H, may seem odd to some at first, but I assure everyone that they are far, far from being absurd.
@dead account, I remember you, it's sweet to see you're back in our cathouse! I think EIE makes a lot more sense at the moment than even IEI, to be honest. There has always been something that, to me, felt off-tempo about being IEI, and I sort of embraced it as a surrogate-sociotype for the psychological abyss that I couldn't fill. I think that growing up in a town as lively as roadkill carcass had that effect on me. I led myself to believe that I am a social introvert because it extinguished and abolished any hope or expectation I had.
Except it didn't work like that. Desires and nature cannot be erased, only repressed. And the moment I self-exiled myself to university in a foreign country, between jagged hills and a new possibility of expression, I unleashed myself. I started being that someone who truly makes me whole. There was a blank canvas all around me, and I started to craft and paint the vision I truly had of myself, without the residue of limitations that I had back home.
Come think of it: I bitch and moan about not having enough human contact, constantly. I want to be adored, but how I go about this goal right now is a bit trickier. This quarantine has hit me harder than I would have imagined it would ever hit me. I have been constantly putting myself in situations that my 17-year old self wouldn't have imagined at the time. In that sense, I fractured my chrysalis.
But I still do not think I am a butterfly ; )
If you wish, I can refer you to DarkAngelFireWolf69's full analysis of myself, or even my videos. I do not consider anything there personal enough for it to be stashed away for all eternity in shame. Perhaps in two to three years when I will log in to my YouTube channel and will have joined a Psychosophy cult that requires me to erase all ties to socionics, but until then, I do not see that happening.
Where the hell people get that DarkAngelFireWolf69 typed faerie as LSI other than one SLE saying that she is LSI and then another SLE coming to a conclusion she is LSI typed by DarkAngelFireWolf69? :rolleyes:
Please understand that when Jung wrote about Si he was trying to explain why some people seem more ‘aloof’ to reality. Hence why someone could still appear unrelated to objects in a passive way on a camping trip even if it’s their first time out camping. Cognitively we can discuss Si or Se if we split hairs, but it would miss the mark of what Jung was trying to say.
Cuz she actually listed it in her about me info?Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
I don't see anything other than a type anyway which seems wuteva statement wheter she wants to have a truth behind it or not. So, no comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlytherinPower
Suspiria mentioned it in the shoutbox a few days ago. He’s also saying he’s read DarkAngelFireWolf69’s assessment of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
I agree that we shouldn’t comment in any more depth without her present.
I can talk forever about Si, but if you want I give a short explanation here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
The environment also evokes inner sensations, that are not directly about the object, but more like the inner reflection from the environment. If you have "raw", undifferentiated sensation, (sensing things like a child), then everything is mixed, you have both the direct sensing of the object, and the inner impression. But because types have developed you have types that focus only on the inner part (Si).
So what are then these inner sensations?
- They are something more than the mere object, some "quality", some "aesthetic factor" (loosely speaking)
- They don't follow the real impact of objects, making Si types hard to understand (the person can seem detached)
- The person experiences them as genuine, natural, and there can be a slightly mysterious quality to them. You can say that things around you are felt a little "deeper", a little more "soulful".
- Si types ignore Se, so they don't really understand that what they experience is introverted, they might just see themselves as more sensitive to the environment than others.
- Also "endosomatic" sensations, inner body phenomena/reactions.
An extreme example of Si would be when a person seems totally uninterested in the object. He is distant and seems to only take in stuff as "through a veil". Indulging in the impression. Normally it doesn't go that far, the person has also a real touch with reality.
It is simply a fact that the mind produces these inner sensations, so there is no connection with personal memory. You can ask the same question with Ni. What is Ni? It is simply a fact that the unconscious reacts to outer situations, and Ni can "sense" this. Si is similar, although it doesn't go as deep.
The point here is not to give a complete definition of Si, but some hints to what it is. Si is a phenomenon in its own right. One has to experience it, spend a lot of time with SEIs and SLIs etc.
Also, see the quote in my signature.
Sorry for the off-topic
EDIT: About routine: Even though Si has nothing to do with routine, there can be correlations on a personal level. Si base always appears together with weak Ne and a general uncertainty about the real world. Also relatively weak Thinking, or even Te polr. Routine can then be a way of coping. But that's about the individual and beyond Si as a function. I would say many people of these types are ambivalent about routine.
They are very different. My point here is that Si types sense as much as an Se type. You just can't see it on the outside, the person seems passive "he just sits and stares". But he is only passive on the outside. This is pretty important in understanding and giving proper credit to Si (although Si is indeed often useless)Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
DarkAngelFireWolf69 has typed me as an LSI-C.
I can't counter his analysis, because it is pretty accurate.
That is a lot of text and still it says nothing. I’m trying to get some sort of clarity and you’re making it even more vague so all I’m getting out of this is how pointless and worthless Si is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallmo
Spend time with SEIs? I have and too much XD They’re literally not paying attention in real time and preoccupied with something else inside their heads while doing important things and getting themselves injured in the process. They’re clumsy, flakey, inconsistent, doormat, and unreliable. They’re slaves to their emotions but fearful of direct conflict due to Te being dogshit and ignore Se, their decision making process is worthless. Give them all the facts and be real with them about the situation and they’ll still make the worst decision in their circumstances.
I love my SLI dad, and he’s got a temper on him but at least he’s not a doormat like SEIs. His decision making abilities is practical due to Te. The only visible Si from him is the comfort and routine. He shows interest and concern in me having a comfortable bed and nice foods to eat, keeping a regular day to day schedule, getting enough sleep and exercise, etc.
The only main common theme between my SEI cousins and bestie + my SLI dad is they’re wayyy into comfort, conflict avoidant, and snore loudly.
Idk tbh, this exploit is just confirming my bias for DarkAngelFireWolf69's bias. some days ago I told to Suspi that he can't recognize deltas well, to which he replied he was waiting for G' typing of his delta friend (I guess he meant greenfaerie) and here it is.. but seriously it seems quite off to type her a beta st lol, but right, we can't counter anything coz big authority said so... ugghhh
Agreed. I think that something is very wrong if people are being made to feel like they need to have some official typing in their profile, and they need to set aside their intuitions about who they are even if they are vastly different from their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by ooo
The entire point (or most of it) of typology is self-discovery. I don’t think people should be encouraged to pay someone else to tell them who/what they are or what to think. Someone watching your video or interacting with you for 2 hours and then who never talks to you again is not going to know who you are better than yourself unless you have psychotic levels of low self-awareness. It’s part of the fun and usefulness of socionics to try to figure out the system for yourself and use it in your own life. Even if someone gets typed “professionally” correctly, they wouldn’t learn how to do that.
This is interesting. I'd compare the consistency of different sources, then look at timeslines of occurences and trends and try to see what is happening, who drives the machinery. I'd never be satisfied with an answer that has contradictions because right there lies a potential for new discovery. Many times people obfusticate information to huge piles which seems to serve a purpose for the current moment. Which is totally fine if you do not want universally applicaple answers and just continue but at the same time calling it as a truth is a HERESY but an answer/a key is fine if you need a functional solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Ave
Interesting, I get what you are saying, to tie this back into typings by Dr. G, he himself says it is preferable to be typed by several professionals in one's lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
Getting a typing like this is, I will admit, submitting to an authority in a way, but also it's not ignoring others have can have different typings - different models and different methodology. But I think it is important to have sound methodology, and not just say "I get LII vibes, because they like Star Wars" or some shit like that, which is frankly what goes on in this forum, but even more so on facebook socionics groups, anyone who is a member of WSS's facebook group can see how many amateurish posts there are by members on there (otoh, Jack makes very well thought out posts, as do Timur and a few others, I am talking about the regular members who are more or less "having fun"). This isn't an insult on anyone, though, but if you had to fix your computer, would you call someone who simply read a book and has no experience, or someone who has the experience and has methodology etc? Not all opinions have the same weight, which is not say anyone is infalliable.
Well, if I get LSI this is going to seem crazy :p
but I admit DarkAngelFireWolf69s opinion would have much more of a weight on my opinion of my type than most
but I think I’m harmonizing subtype, in any case
All bow before Daddy DarkAngelFireWolf69's systems or be tried as a heretic and subsequently burned at the stake, because the trial is just for show and there is only one outcome.
Honestly I think part of this is a high off of being analyzed while not being criticized. If people are made to feel good, the logic connecting it to the system will seem more sound. I agree that it’s a useful tool for seeing how one comes across semi-superficially to certain people’s opinions though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Consilience
Did you really get a EII typing, sbbds?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
of course not LOL
EII-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
no wayQuote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
funny that I have pretty much different IR apparently with shotgunfingers and thegreenfaerie
So I'm taking a DarkAngelFireWolf69 test and I get asked
1 .Consistent and reliable, but lacks flexibility
2. Flexible and volatile, but lacks consistency
That's why I hate 2 options tests, because they do not cover all possibilites
Btw, I got LIE LOL
Some typings from DarkAngelFireWolf69 I've seen on here seemed off to me. I'm not even doubting his competency or his model which I find quite insighful.
How exactly does the typing process work ? You just send a video or are there questionnaires/discussions?
I guess the tension(having your walls up) as well as the preparation time could make weak functions appear stronger than they are when you just act naturally.
How is this “of course not”? You should see his in-depth logical analysis of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
I prefer to rely on my intuition in this caseQuote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
@aster, if you get LSI then we'll know that DarkAngelFireWolf69 is operating a money-laundering business that is using a really stupid bot to automatically reply to people after it cashes their check.Quote:
Originally Posted by aster
"Save money on code. Type everyone LSI and just randomly vary the DCNH values, because that's my latest thing. No one will ever know that the program works that way. Incidentally, are there any checks in the mail?"
Your intuition is shit. DarkAngelFireWolf69 would probably type you as a dum sensor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
And even if you WERE correct.... I paid good money to counteract your intuition and your opinion is secondary to His.
He is just testing his neural network on social-desirability bias. He needs testing data.
Maybe Oprah is moonlighting as a socionist. "You get a LSI typing...and you get one...sure you get another".
Si types are creatures of habit hotel, get over it. maybe they move around and take in lots of experiences, impressions, but the habits of Si are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
What do you think of his typing and report of you?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
What the fuck became of this thread?
No worries, trolling happens here and I don't take anything personally, plus my typings are about as bad as the next persons on here sometimes. Funny that I do actually remember that thread after you mentioned it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Consilience
You are typed off of two videos. First you make a video responding to the five questions on his site (I think it is, what do you do for a living, do you like your job why or why not, what are your hobbies, tell about your family, and tell about what you think are your strong and weak points).Quote:
Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb
When they confirm payment, you get a second set of questions, you make a second video answering those. I got 11 questions the second time, some were more personal and based off of what I said on the first video, some seemed more general.
In total I think my first video was 10 mins long, second video 21 mins.
They then send you the conclusion, which explains in terms of preferences of what he calls "installation" (logic vs ethics, sensing vs intuition) and temperament (introversion vs extraversion, rationality vs irrationality). I also got a section on quadra which some of the others didn't get. Then, he explains your DCNH subtype and finally, gives a conclusion on the whole type with some advice to improve yourself.
All the points he made seem at least fair, and most were very accurate. He gives examples based both off of the content of what you say in the video, and body language. In the other reports that I read it seemed he had some doubts about rationality and irrationality, but in my case he said all the preferences on the dichotomies were clearly expressed.
Why does it matter what I think? Or what you think about what I think? All that matters is what He thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chakram
PBUHQuote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
The way you overreact makes it sound to type you as EII though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
Btw, I assumed you were making fun of DarkAngelFireWolf69, so I entered the game. If he indeed typed you as EII, it's the only typing of him that I could agree with so far
Always thought baby bear is ENFP Huxley.
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...hp/11319-sbbds
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...tar11319_1.gif
That's what I assumed, but I guess she's taking it very far nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Duschia
Stop threatening me with Se. I always knew we were conflictors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
Sooo...curious, but do all of those typed LSI feel like that makes sense? Just seems odd so many are getting typed LSI. Reminds me, I think G-man types Elon Musk LSI too and I do wonder about that one. Seems like G-man's DCNH is being used to justify typing someone a particular type when, without DCNH, another type would fit better in classic Socionics thought. :thinking:
But maybe that IS more insightful, if only we knew what DarkAngelFireWolf69 used to distinguish the types then, if DCNH can make a type have characteristics of another. :thinking: So I guess then it comes down to if people think DCNH is more helpful or not cause I guess that's hard to gauge objectively. :thinking: A word is coming to mind now - superfluous.
but notsure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVyRkl5qNb8
the4typesofLSI.info
You'll need @Sol to spook them off behind your back and giving wedgies.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
He’s not threatening you at all. You freak out over any perceived threats and then roll over like you’re the victim because you can’t handle disagreements. And since Mega is IEE, conflictor to IEE would be LSI, and you’re not LSI. Either way, Se egos doesn’t run away from conflict so Mega has valid reasons to agree EII being your type. Socionics doesn’t have any provisions that you change types based on your relations with others. You’ve been around for years treating this forum as your personal toilet shitting on everyone with your gaslighting and you still don’t learn when to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
@Sol ‘s presence automatically gives everyone around him a wedgie. Except for me, I’m impervious as his dual. He still think we are conflictors unfortunately. :’ (Quote:
Originally Posted by Comatose Lamiac 007
EII by DarkAngelFireWolf69, IEI under Solcionics.
...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
Sarcasm/trolling just went right over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
@Megatrop what made you change your typing to SLE-C? (if that's not intrusive to ask) I've always thought of you as the most SLE-Se/C one can be tbh, and am glad to see you think that too.
The functions, and especially Si, are hard to understand. That's why. There's plenty to digest in what I wrote. Enough for months or years. But I'll end the discussion with you now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiana
This is mostly about their weaknesses, and doesn't get to the Si. It's much harder to observe.Quote:
Spend time with SEIs? I have and too much XD They’re literally not paying attention in real time and preoccupied with something else inside their heads while doing important things and getting themselves injured in the process. They’re clumsy, flakey, inconsistent, doormat, and unreliable. They’re slaves to their emotions but fearful of direct conflict due to Te being dogshit and ignore Se, their decision making process is worthless. Give them all the facts and be real with them about the situation and they’ll still make the worst decision in their circumstances.
yes, Si or Si related. The part about sleep and exercise is thematic (concern with these things), so it is not directly Si, although of course related. Si is the direct experience inner of comfort, of being rested etc.Quote:
I love my SLI dad, and he’s got a temper on him but at least he’s not a doormat like SEIs. His decision making abilities is practical due to Te. The only visible Si from him is the comfort and routine. He shows interest and concern in me having a comfortable bed and nice foods to eat, keeping a regular day to day schedule, getting enough sleep and exercise, etc.
Since I considered thegreenfaerie to be my mirror and she was typed LSI, then I must be SLE LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb
:thinking: I thought I would be SLI tbh, my Si is very good it seems, but Ti & Te as well.. however I don't relate to the base LSI descriptions much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody
HOWEVER I don't know any Deltas who are as political as I am or any SLI who would smash a door to pieces in an adrenaline filled fit of rage induced by conflict.
e_e they always seem so zen and chill by comparison and I was never any of that. I can come off as SEI when ppl interact with me, but that stuff is just a mask to keep me safe and they seem bewildered when I tun on dime, because I dint's like something they did, thought or whatever.
So I think LSI works in my case for sure, if not some weird introverted SLE, but I highly doubt it as I'm neither that Se nor a type 8.
EDIT: well IF not, then I'm a weird SLI or ILE who is still type 6, still against the system and still think 90% of ppl are retarded.
^^' never gonna stop opposing your libshit way of life hahaha.. a type label does not change who I am nor what I think or want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDzUNsQS-g
I think you are just another idiot, like most ppl on this website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
I dont give a shitQuote:
Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
Yeah you do, you wouldn't respond otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
LOL I'm having fun tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
You aren't the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatrop
:thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
I mean politics, I doubt is type-related. I have an SEI family member that is diehard conservative and she really hates democrats and politically stereotypes everything and all that stuff and gets mad and sad and shit about it; and I kind of think that is pretty stupid to begin with. But having a political mindset of putting things into designations and groups and such could be related to Ti. But then again Delta's are supposed to like authoritarian stuff and doing that as well, while Alpha isn't, yet my SEI family member does. So *shrug*Quote:
HOWEVER I don't know any Deltas who are as political as I am or any SLI who would smash a door to pieces in an adrenaline filled fit of rage induced by conflict.
e_e they always seem so zen and chill by comparison and I was never any of that. I can come off as SEI when ppl interact with me, but that stuff is just a mask to keep me safe and they seem bewildered when I tun on dime, because I dint's like something they did, thought or whatever.
Rage, depends. I've had rage more when younger. I was nurtured to be aggressive by my parents because that's how they made it through life, but that was kind of lame way to live and eventually I stopped caring. Now when I have aggression or rage, it is more genuine and purposeful, so not so negative anymore. Negative emotions can be powerful. But I think people mellow out as they get older and wiser and when they get used to accepting and dealing with a certain level of frustration from life. Some people are better at it than others though. Some people have a more natural calm, but I think everybody has to deal with these things, regardless of type.
I have an SLE-Ti stepfather who is not a type 8. He has elements of 3, 2, 7, and 9. I think he's probably 397. I don't really understand the idea that Se is about aggression and being pushy or something like socionics says. I think that is just type 8 enneagram behavior, which might be more often correlated with say Se and Te or even Fe to some extent, but it's not a must.Quote:
So I think LSI works in my case for sure, if not some weird introverted SLE, but I highly doubt it as I'm neither that Se nor a type 8.
Could be. I think SLI are more people of action, whereas ILE are more people of novelty. Ne doesn't sound like you though based on your thoughts about materialism and you do seem, no offense, to have an aversion to alternate possibilities and such.Quote:
EDIT: well IF not, then I'm a weird SLI or ILE who is still type 6, still against the system and still think 90% of ppl are retarded.
But thanks for responding. I think I might leave the forum and stop thinking about this stuff, since it seems I'm getting nowhere with it now and as I get older I think I adopt many different ways of being that I use to blend in, making type a rather meaningless designation to me...it all seems incredibly relative, a too precise mathematics of constantly trying to frame ever-changing dualistic aspects of personality. Yeah, I think I'm done.
I've self-typed as ILI, LIE, EIE, and ESI. LSI is kind of the missing puzzle piece. The last thing to try, since I gave all the other central rationals a try, and ILI which is introverted logical type. I just did not see myself as a Ti base. But DarkAngelFireWolf69 insists I am, and like I have said before, his analysis makes sense, when applied to me. I rejected the descriptions of Ti base in the past, but G' analysis of me as Ti base when applied to my own quirks and individual personality gives another view of this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody
I think I need more time to think about this, though.
I think some people misunderstand what approach I'm taking. I can't speak for others, but personally, when people say it should be about self-discovery, I feel this kind of feedback from a professional is part of the process. To type oneself, one needs to know both oneself and socionics. But how do you link the two together? That seems to be the tricky part for people on the forum, myself included. Most people can't really apply the theory, and if they do, they too often get it wrong. Professionals are not infalliable either, DarkAngelFireWolf69 included (Einstein as an ILI is so wrong imo, as he was clearly an ILE). That being said, their typings are not arbitrary and based on whim, I take G' analysis of me seriously because I can tell he put work into it. The main problem might be, as was said by @lkdhf qkb, that DarkAngelFireWolf69 doesn't know the interviewee well enough. I felt DarkAngelFireWolf69 asked the right questions though. But the work of a professional is not do self-discovery for you (not that self-discovery stops at a type anyways) but to help apply their own theories, which they developped, to your own self-discovery. I think what I mean is this: you need both to listen to yourself and to someone competent who you trust, they are complementary, not mutually exclusive.
That said, I don't fully know what I think at this point. I need more time. But since I've typed as LIE, EIE, and ESI, LSI isn't crazy.
Haha, it is funny you mention this, since DarkAngelFireWolf69 actually said the same thing, and says this is what Ti does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Consilience
Sometimes it annoys people because I do not take sides quickly enough, in a debate, or I'll just say I don't know, because I need more time to think about it. Alot of people like this quality though, I sense.Quote:
Body language and function of structural logic. Structural logic is often manifested in
communication through the emotion of doubt. When in doubt, a person compares
different data and draws a conclusion based on the direction in which the bowl of scales
is leaning. Structural thinking is always dichotomous; it necessarily brings both
arguments for and against. And in the first and second interviews with [my name] there are
many examples where he shows the facial expressions of doubt associated with the
analysis of all available information about his psyche.
And thanks, I appreciate it. : )Quote:
Originally Posted by Consilience
I know it's not a productive way to release stress/anger, but I've had those fits of rage too. I've broke many cell phones from throwing them, broke a laptop I had, made a whole in the wall with a door handle, knocked over a TV, etc. Do you think it's type related, then? I always figured it was just an unhealthy coping mechanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
never mind, I think I could be normalizing instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by aster
anyway, whatever DarkAngelFireWolf69 decides I’ll prob stick with it. all you naysayers can kiss my rear :) :blow:
I was brutally honest in my 2nd video, especially(sent it in last night). I think I have an idea what I’m going to get at this point.
curious if I’m right :halo:
cant wait.
good way to go through it, without even knowing what you'll get ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by aster
Party pooper lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ooo