One & only type me thread forever

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Originally Posted by Northstar

Your questionnaire indicates the opposite. In fact, there are many things that point to Ne valuing, likely Se role and Te mobilizing. The DS function is not something you typically consciously know you need until later in life. Give it 10 years or so. IEE are often stressed out but don't know how to relieve it themselves.

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People on other sites also disagree. Someone on PerC based on my questionnaire alone said Gamma. They said they didn't see any Ne Si values in me, & I had no convo before or after with them, so i didn't skew them in that way either. Could screenshot it for you.

@Northstar from PerC

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Not saying they're right, but this is their take away from my questionnaire.

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Originally Posted by SlytherinPower

People on other sites also disagree. Someone on PerC based on my questionnaire alone said Gamma. They said they didn't see any Ne Si values in me, & I had no convo before or after with them, so i didn't skew them in that way either. Could screenshot it for you.

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Yes, a case could be made for SEE but I think you definitely value Ne (potential, possibilities) over Ni (vision, meaning). The IEE role Se is often quite prominent, "flashes of anger" is a textbook IEE thing after all.

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Originally Posted by Northstar

Your questionnaire indicates the opposite. In fact, there are many things that point to Ne valuing, likely Se role and Te mobilizing. The DS function is not something you typically consciously know you need until later in life. Give it 10 years or so. IEE are often stressed out but don't know how to relieve it themselves.

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Which quotes specifically are Ne valuing?

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Originally Posted by Northstar

Yes, a case could be made for SEE but I think you definitely value Ne (potential, possibilities) over Ni (vision, meaning). The IEE role Se is often quite prominent, "flashes of anger" is a textbook IEE thing after all.

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"Flashes of anger" :rofl:

@Northstar & people's thoughts on typologycentral

https://www.typologycentral.com/foru...socionics.html

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Originally Posted by SlytherinPower

Which quotes specifically are Ne valuing?

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Quick copypasta from your answers:

People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information.

People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad".

I don't easily learn from past situations.

I couldn't decide what I wanted to major in and didn't finish my degree though.

I have a lot of hobbies. Sports, physical activities, decorating, cooking, baking, reading about a ton of random things- astrology, different religions, psychology stuff, etc. I like politics (I'm a libertarian). I like the arts like going to see plays. Playing guitar. Playing basketball. Playing pool. Going to the gym. Hiking. Searching forums on a multitude of subjects. Watching YouTube videos, someone like Lilly Singh if I want something funny or if I want something more serious/political someone like Ben Shapiro or Dave Rubin.

Using my ENFP friend as an example. We would go hiking often, went to a karaoke bar & went back & forth picking shot drinks & sang together, went to a yoga class together, got palm readings at a psychic, go to restaurants & try new foods together, parties with people from work, been to an escape room, & went to see a Disney movie at the movie theater.

If I was cursed by a witch I would like to lose my memories. I find that dwelling on past events holds people back from the present/future a lot.

A disappointment to myself. A failure. Unhappy. Static & constantly in the same place.

I like how different each person's lives and journey's can be, and learning all about them.

I dislike when people can't laugh at themselves.

I like how I can say any & everything to them & the fun times we have together. I like when they find new activities etc. for us to do.

I can be sporty, edgy, preppy, nerdy... my interest are all over the place. I like to put my own spin on things, though.

Sports, working out at the gym, other hands-on things like playing pool, watching YouTubers & getting creative ideas from them, trying new foods, traveling, watching TV, debating politics or watching political stuff, watching stand up comedy, & probably a million other things.

I love trying new things.

Analyzing things, things I want to do/try, the direction I want for my life, ways to make more money, career goals, where I see my future self headed, convos I wish I'd have with people, sarcastic comments, random things like what if we're living in the matrix, analyzing people, sex lol, & food.

Freedom, not just for myself but others too. I don't think people should be controlled. Besides that the only thing I can think of is that I try not to ever be unnecessarily rude to anybody.

Not really. I believe in free will. Besides that, I just like learning about different religions & beliefs. I find them more interesting/fascinating than anything else.

I can come up with better/easier ways to do things, I have a good sense of humor, I catch onto things fast

People's humor, their randomness

I dislike when people are rude, too uptight, unwilling to try other people's ideas

it's exciting to try new sexual things

I think kids are fun. I would probably just treat them like a small playmate tbh.

Ask them a ton of questions, & see why they think the way they do. I don't need other people to agree with me, & I actually think it's more fun when they don't. I like to debate. Also, I just like to learn people's motivations & thought processes. Maybe I could also change their mind or they can change mine, but I don't bank on it. Always cool to try to get new information from others.

I just meet people randomly tbh.

If you don't attempt them, you can't improve or even know that something is not the path for you.

That everyone could live in a free society & no country to be ruled by a dictator. Free markets everywhere. People can strive for success, if they choose. Be entrepreneurial. Be whatever they want (with a bit of luck & talent).

People have a lot of control to change their life, if they want to. I don't think fate is set.

What makes something the "right" thing? Right by me? Right by someone else? Right by the law? Right by society?

People judge & perceive the same things right in front of their faces as vastly different at times. People take & interpret things in different ways. It's a pretty hard thing to gauge at times.

Having the cards stacked against you, but you proceed forward with your goal anyways & you make your own better future happen.

I have no desire to control other people's lives.

You just have to utilize your skills, talents, opportunities, etc.

To be able to make your own choices. No one controlling your life. Having free thought, free speech, freedom to do what you want to your own body, live the way you want to, do what you want with your own money, & running your own life.

I strive to improve. I don't want to be stuck in the same place 5, 10, 20 yrs from now.

Considering I believe in supernatural things, I'd say yes.

@Northstar

Time to analyze myself a bit..

People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". - Not liking Fi judgments

I don't easily learn from past situations. - Low or lack of Si

Sports, working out at the gym, other hands-on things like playing pool, watching YouTubers & getting creative ideas from them, trying new foods, traveling, watching TV, debating politics or watching political stuff, watching stand up comedy, & probably a million other things - Sports are stereotypically Se but I can see Ne doms liking similar activities for a slightly different reason. Debating politics also seems like something an ENTP would like to do

Not about to do more cuz I'm gonna go grab a coffee & hit the gym.

Alpha to Delta is a HUGE jump tho. They seem pretty opposite in their values to me. Your thoughts are not very consistent for a high Ti user.

@Northstar

I couldn't decide what I wanted to major in and didn't finish my degree though.

This was cuz I grew up with my overprotective grandparents that barely let me have friends, go anywhere without them, or do anything on my own (I didn't even do any chores around the house). So even though I was smart & got good grades, I had no idea what I was good at & didn't get my first job until I was 21. Was terrible at serving jobs & hated it. Then got into warehouse/factory jobs & never knew I'd like work like that as much as I do. Take from that what you'd like.

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Originally Posted by SlytherinPower

@Northstar
Alpha to Delta is a HUGE jump tho. They seem pretty opposite in their values to me. Your thoughts are not very consistent for a high Ti user.

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"Quadra values" is not the best way to type individuals. However Ne valuing is what ties alpha and delta together and that is what is most readily apparent about you at this point.

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Originally Posted by Northstar

"Quadra values" is not the best way to type individuals. However Ne valuing is what ties alpha and delta together and that is what is most readily apparent about you at this point.

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Why not ILE? In that case. ILE shares Fe/Ti with ESE. IEE does not.

"Not learning from past situations" - mb low or ignored Ni

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ave

"Not learning from past situations" - mb low or ignored Ni

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So ILE?

Self righteous people. People that take every little thing or joke personally. People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information. Selfish people. People that easily make value judgements about people, & likely in debates resort to calling you names like "heartless" instead of giving rational evidence/thoughts to debunk your stance. People that are easily offended or use that word a lot. People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". People that drown on & on about "morals" or being a "morally good person". Overly judgy people. The type of people that say "I would never do something like that". Hypocrites. - Does this not sound like poor Fi? I'd say it's poor Fi.

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Originally Posted by SlytherinPower

So ILE?

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I meant any sensor or Ne dom has either low Ni or ignored Ni - I wasn't saying it to draw a specific conclusion about your type though.

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Self righteous people. People that take every little thing or joke personally. People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information. Selfish people. People that easily make value judgements about people, & likely in debates resort to calling you names like "heartless" instead of giving rational evidence/thoughts to debunk your stance. People that are easily offended or use that word a lot. People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". People that drown on & on about "morals" or being a "morally good person". Overly judgy people. The type of people that say "I would never do something like that". Hypocrites. - Does this not sound like poor Fi? I'd say it's poor Fi.

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You mean that the statements you made reflect poor Fi? It sounds Fi polr to me, especially the stuff about people getting touchy and offended about jokes etc. I often hear SLEs talk about this.

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Originally Posted by SlytherinPower

Why not ILE? In that case. ILE shares Fe/Ti with ESE. IEE does not.

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You come off as prioritizing ethics with interest in receiving practical logic such as examples, rather than displaying the theoretical scientific bent of ILE.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ave

I meant any sensor or Ne dom has either low Ni or ignored Ni - I wasn't saying it to draw a specific conclusion about your type though.



You mean that the statements you made reflect poor Fi? It sounds Fi polr to me, especially the stuff about people getting touchy and offended about jokes etc. I often hear SLEs talk about this.

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Oh ok. I gotcha. :)

So I sent Jack from WSS over my payment for an interview with him & emailed him to set up an interview time.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

There is nothing Ni/Se and nothing Fi/Te about OP.

OP has poor Ni (and poor reflectional abilities), as shown even with that 'don't steal my money!' when confronted with a fucking existential threat that likely - if not stopped - will cost billions of dollars and lives, if not end human civilization as we know. Likes to be supplied with Ti (see peteronfireee, Northstar, and so on) - this is not how IEEs work. Poorly senses capabilities and abilities.

OP's values reflect Alpha complex of closed mouth: http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...Stratiyevskaya (what Ave notes as 'Fi PoLR?')

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Ok. When the world ends, let me know. So in that case everyone who's not a socialist/communist is an ESE? All you arguing politics with me does is make me want to be even more defiant towards these "Democrats" dumb politics. Since Joe Biden is president now I refuse to wear a mask anywhere too. I'm done with this commie bs. & it's not up to be to protect anyone else's well being. Not my problem. Go ahead & donate all the money you make to climate change efforts, if you believe in it so strongly tho. Lmao

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Originally Posted by Duschia

It would be cool if you told him what you did at forums and linked your threads. Not just posed as something.

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So your saying you wouldn't believe Jack either? You must think I'm an amazing actress. Maybe I should audition for something in Hollywood, by your standards.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

It would be cool if you told him what you did at forums and linked your threads. Not just posed as something.

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People on TypeC think y'all the crazy ones so... I don't see you doing an interview with Jack? You afraid to show yourself? Or you wanna keep being "tough" behind a screen?

I guess Laura Ingraham & Jeanine Pirro ESEs now too? Y'all really typing people on not agreeing with their politics. Dumb asf.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

There is nothing Ni/Se and nothing Fi/Te about OP.

OP has poor Ni (and poor reflectional abilities), as shown even with that 'don't steal my money!' when confronted with a fucking existential threat that likely - if not stopped - will cost billions of dollars and lives, if not end human civilization as we know. Likes to be supplied with Ti (see peteronfireee, Northstar, and so on) - this is not how IEEs work. Poorly senses capabilities and abilities.

OP's values reflect Alpha complex of closed mouth: http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...Stratiyevskaya (what Ave notes as 'Fi PoLR?')

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Oh your mad. You're big mad. Get madder! :popcorn: :more:

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Originally Posted by Duschia

No, I'm typing you based on your behavior (there are plenty of leftist Alphas, starting from Noam Chomsky, LII). You can't even tell what is the basis people are typing you so.

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But you know for a fact that I'm completely different irl & "posturing" on the site? Huh, I don't remember hanging out with you ever lmfao Sounds like a conspiracy theorists idea.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

No, I'm saying that I'm quite sure you won't provide Jack with a whole picture (that is, your behavior over time, at this forum or in threads). I'm not sure whether he will find your facade believable or not, I hope not. You are a bad actress, but the question lies in whether Jack will see it, as Ni-types don't seem to have big problems with seeing it. But Jack is an ILE, and to add to that he may feel quite repulsed to type you the same quadra as he is (like Ryan ITT). We will see.

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& What is "the whole picture?" What would I be lying about? You've never worked with me, so you can't say I'm lying about my jobs. I could get coworkers on video to verify my work statements for you. What am I lying about??????

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Originally Posted by Duschia

Eeee, and you see me supposedly being 'mad' after a few posts exchanged? You are paranoid as Vex said. :lol: I think you are not very intelligent nor wise. This is 'being mad at stupidity' if anything, and that doesn't show you in a good light. If anything, people will more likely think you are stupid or something after this. Congratulations on playing yourself.

Alpha tricks don't won't on Gammas. :biggrin: You are surely not SEE, but I think at this point you know that. And not SLE either.

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I'm stupid. Ok. That's why I got straight As in grade, middle, & high school. & Why I was in honors classes. Yup, omg you are so right. I'm so stupid. idk how I even find my way out of bed in the morning.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

You have shown us videos, you had five threads, come on. You have talked a lot​. And now you try to escape any Te by 'I'M COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T JUDGE MEEEEE BASED ON PRESENTED INFORMATIONNNN'.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...38/025/db0.jpg

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You mad cuz your weird self got bullied growing up so now you bully others online or?

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Originally Posted by Duschia

You have shown us videos, you had five threads, come on. You have talked a lot​. And now you try to escape any Te by 'I'M COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T JUDGE MEEEEE BASED ON PRESENTED INFORMATIONNNN'.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...38/025/db0.jpg

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Wanna hop on a plane & show up at my door & say these insults to my face? I'm tryna catch a caaaaaasssseeee

Drop your address dude.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

Someone: tries Te

LMFAO: u mad cuz u were bullied so now u try to bully me!!! YOU CAN'T KNOW ME!!!

(My fav new theory now)

This conversation is 0% constructive at the moment. You know my opinion, and I've tried to help you with typing multiple times, but this is just nonsense. Sigh.


(fyi I was never bullied, because I'm apparently an intimidating loner, and SLEs - 'your typical bullies' - find me attractive I guess, although I don't think I'm attractive at all, or I don't see it)

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Nonsense is my fav :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Duschia

You are insane if you think anyone will go to your house over an internet thread. Nor it is realistic as we have corona and I live in Europe.

I dislike any invasions on my privacy, and doing one-on-one camera convos with someone I don't trust is included in that, so I can't see us even talking via Skype. Unless if it would be, like, in a group with few other people. Would be great if I could have a chat with you, Jack, and a few others present, as that would clear any misunderstandings, but I'm kinda assuming some Fi, true desire to know even a painful truth and some goodwill here, which was proven over and over again to be wrong in your case. If you want to, we could both join some socionics Discord so you would get typed online (I'm not active on those).

(see how I wasn't really stalking or bullying you - had I I would easily find you Facebook back then, when you posted those videos - dunno about now, as I didn't collect them)

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SCARCASM just right over your head huh? You really think I'd think you'd buy a plane ticket & come out here to fight me?

I don't have a Facebook. I deleted my FB about 6 months ago.

I'd join a discord. Send the link.

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Originally Posted by Duschia

Fe/Ti trolling, great game 11/10 mate.

See, I'm not interested. （∂△∂；）Because I'm quite serious. Like, a lot.

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We've noticed.

@Duschia seriously tho, if you could send the discord links

I got I can't shut my mouth syndrome. Ahhhhhh someone save me please! Oh no it's taking over!!

This was fun XD :P

People on the forum be like :deadhorse:

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Originally Posted by Duschia

No, I'm saying that I'm quite sure you won't provide Jack with a whole picture (that is, your behavior over time, at this forum or in threads). I'm not sure whether he will find your facade believable or not, I hope not. You are a bad actress, but the question lies in whether Jack will see it, as Ni-types don't seem to have big problems with seeing it. But Jack is an ILE, and to add to that he may feel quite repulsed to type you the same quadra as he is (like Ryan ITT). We will see.

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I don't care about OP's type. She could very well be ESE, unlike you I'm open to being wrong. I'm just stating the obvious. You are welcome to refute my arguments instead of asserting that my typing of her is wrong because I don't like her (something I didn't comment on btw, you have no idea how I feel about her - I'm not repulsed by her, I just find her extremely dumb), but that is the kind of rhetoric I came to expect of you. What I find amusing is how some nobody like you who is new to Socionics, is firing on all cylinders and being extremely biased, yet condescending. Apparently Ni-types are the chosen ones. I didn't get the memo but thank you for informing me. Not your first dumb comment and won't be your last. Reminds me of the idiots who say that Jung and Augusta (ILE BTW) typed themselves wrong.

You seem like a smart person but you fell into the trap of many before you who only regarded their own type and Quadra as great.

The fact that this retard is actually entertaining you means she is even dumber than you. But I'm not surprised by that since she actually follows news commentators (entertainers, if you didn't know), and hangs on their word, as if it means anything. You don't get any IQ points by association btw.

I need a shirt with Corona beer on it & another that says "free hugs" for this pandemic. My shirt today says "you're so fake Barbie's jealous" so I guess some people on the forum think it fits me. *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Ryan

I don't care about OP's type. She could very well be ESE, unlike you I'm open to being wrong. I'm just stating the obvious. You are welcome to refute my arguments instead of asserting that my typing of her is wrong because I don't like her (something I didn't comment on btw, you have no idea how I feel about her - I'm not repulsed by her, I just find her extremely dumb), but that is the kind of rhetoric I came to expect of you. What I find amusing is how some nobody like you who is new to Socionics, is firing on all cylinders and being extremely biased, yet condescending. Apparently Ni-types are the chosen ones. I didn't get the memo but thank you for informing me. Not your first dumb comment and won't be your last. Reminds me of the idiots who say that Jung and Augusta (ILE BTW) typed themselves wrong.

You seem like a smart person but you fell into the trap of many before you who only regarded their own type and Quadra as great.

The fact that this retard is actually entertaining you means she is even dumber than you. But I'm not surprised by that since she actually follows news commentators (entertainers, if you didn't know), and hangs on their word, as if it means anything. You don't get any IQ points by association btw.

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I'm fine with you not liking me, & I agree with the things you pointed out to him. Honestly, I'm just bored very easily & even though going back & forth with them isn't constructive it's entertaining & something to do.

My grandma obsessively has CNN & MSNB on, so I'm not devoid of Democrats opinions. Not many people I do follow are libertarians either. Guess you didn't read me saying the things I disagree with them about, though.

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Originally Posted by Ania

I’m still not sure yet. I did see your video in the prior thread. Maybe Beta NF? Sensing type seems increasingly unlikely, given the “fragile” impression you have some people, and I’m beginning to see it too. I’m quite sure on ethical over logical - at least from what I can see. So there’s that. You have always expressed dislike of Fi-related behavior, and it sounds like you know that’s exactly what you’re implying when you talk about “very sensitive people” etc. so all of that leads me to Beta NF. More likely than not, some sort of ethical type at least would be my guess.

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T over E. Did you mean I? Really an introvert? I could see everyone at work dying laughing at that one.

So IEI? Is that what you're implying?

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Originally Posted by Duschia

You have said so insane things before it's not unthinkable in my head that you would really think so. See that 'hurr durr I'm retarded' meme.

Here is a list:

https://disboard.org/servers/tag/socionics

The ones listed on Sedecology are:

• Transcendence Discord https://disboard.org/server/486770264219189249
• Hex Discord https://disboard.org/server/690155514516209692
• Psych https://disboard.org/server/603854980511957002
• Synthesis https://disboard.org/server/721616411012759664
• Aetiology
• Agora https://disboard.org/server/718181414738067538

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Thanks for the links :blow:

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I may join soon, but a) I don't have a working camera as of now (only on my phone) b) I want to make another discord account just for this, and seems discord is blocking so. So this may take a while. I will try to be there tomorrow at last. And I'm not the most talkative person ever, I prefer to write if anything, but it's not super very regular. :shifty:

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I just use my phone

I'd be interested to talk to you in person tho. Can we keep it not political tho? Cuz I don't see that be revelant when there's way other things we could talk about.