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The shy goody two shoes types
from most to least likely
SEI-Si>EII>IEI-Ni>ESI-Fi>LII>SLI-Si
LIE, ILE, LSE, and SLE are collectively the most obnoxious people in the socion. One of them is probably your dual.
Just keep in mind that you are young and as such not fully developed, which can make typing difficult. Also, forget about MBTI while you are here, that shit is useless.
You seem to have weak Se, maybe valued. I'm seeing more Fe than Fi in you here.
You touched on this in a way in your questionnaire but I would like more information on this:
Do you rely on other people pushing you in order to attain your goals or other tasks (both in the moment and for the future) or are you capable of easily doing this yourself? Do you enjoy or need this prodding?
Another useful thing would be for you to go here: https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/ to read up on the quadras and tell us which you think you would fit in the best with. I again have some ideas from your answers but more is needed.
?Every type? u blind bro?
I think I narrowed it down pretty well. There is way in hell that they're a LIE, for example. I sense 1D/ignoring Te and 1D/ignoring Se. Possibly good F. People are usually too narrowminded when it comes to questionnaires, but I didn't want to just list random types either. That's why I listed it from most possible to least possible. A clear ranking system. The top three I listed are the most probable, others not so much but still possible. Anything else is highly unlikely. It's better for them to research by themselves, they know themselves better than anyone else after all.
Yes definitely weak Te and Se, this is the type of thing you should highlight more, looking at it from my point of view I'm seeing a very negligible difference in your rankings. 2.01 is greater than 2 after all. Also the seemingly random throwing around of contrasting subtypes in opposing quadras.
I dislike that "definiteness" you speak of, doesn't allow for much flexibility. They are a nonbinary now but I suspect they were raised as a girl. I have met extremely soft and nice LII and SLI girls, almost F type like, that is why I included them. It's not super common but some LIIs can definitely be impractical. SEI-Si and EII can be extremely similar from a superficial point of view. They may be from different quadras but that doesn't make it not difficult to differentiate, especially because OP made a questionnaire and not a video, where valued Fe is more apparent. Those were the two I saw most probable for OP.
@februarysprout What do you think? Have you decided anything for or against any values?
@februarysprout
Here is a great description of the differences between your two most likely types. No rush, a lot of people change their minds later.
Typing isn't simple, no matter if it's yourself or others, no need to apologize. Well if you relate to both alpha and delta more than you are probably Ne-Si valuing and what I thought could have been Se valuing in others is probably Te valuing.
EII could be the one. I wouldn't base anything off of Reinin dichotomies, some of them are useful and the rest are not.
You could also try to read up on other types and try to determine which information elements you think you value in others to make sure your axis is correct.
Liking and finding people obnoxious aren't incompatible things. My ILE and LSE friends are my favorite people in the world but they definitely have some... rough sides. This is true for every 1D Fi person I have encountered. The LSE is loud and makes unintentionally degrading comments. The ILE is highly defensive and moody in a cute puppy-like way. I love them both.
I was simply trying to help OP, as they implied they have an odd fondness for these people, who are most likely to be 1D Fi. I apologize for not being politically correct enough. Terribly offensive stuff.
edit: the last part was sarcasm
There's literally a dude on this forum that makes rants on how black people have lower IQ. Why not go bother that guy? Also life protip making moralizing comments does absolutely nothing most of the time, usually makes the person more defensive and feel bad, a softer approach would garner more results
I agree.
Yeah, I want to point out that's influenced by who you are and how you interact with their dynamic. It's not their identity that they are inherently annoying.
I think it's great you wanted to be helpful. You also called types annoying, like it's their trait not your interaction.
And...when ppl are told their about their words, they could listen to it and not take it as an attack but recognize it as useful information, that they didn't intend to hurt someone, and that knowing ramifications of how they were talking is useful.
But sometimes ppl sound deeply offended about saying something offensive. it seems deeply recursive...ironic...and hypocritical
I hate to further derail this thread but are you basing your conclusions about these types being "obnoxious" on old MBTI stereotypes and the fact that you know one person of each of these types and now assume everyone else who is like that must be one of those types? That's going to lead to many incorrect typings and yet you were saying that I was being too definitive earlier.
Hm. I think you guys are reading too much into cursory statements. People like to unfairly bitch on specific types based on their subjective real life experiences all the time, why don’t you go after them? My tone was meant to be read lightheartedly. Including the goody two shoes part. I wasn’t being 100% serious when I said that, btw, I think most people can catch that. And hey, in the end, I helped OP get a start to their typing journey, that’s what counts the most IG. Bye
I think the issue is your "confronting" is most people's "unnecessarily being a dick"
I said something in a joking manner and now you seem to have framed it as if I was being an asshole. I got irritated because of that.
I don't dislike you. But I'm suggesting you think more long term about this. Out of all of your confrontations, has it genuinely changed anyone's mind or made them apologize? If not maybe a different approach is warranted
edit: OK im sorry. that was immature of me and I could have been nicer about it. you’re a kind person and have been through a lot, but there are definitely ways to smoothen interactions, de-escalate, and not derail threads, which is inconsiderate and ruins a lot of thread potentials. admittedly i also messed up in that aspect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKUhZJp7uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe5pv4khM-Y&t=7s
People can't tell your tone in text. But...even joking that someone's type is inherently obnoxious is going to create problems. The people that are getting bitter and come on here with broken hearts will calcify when they read posts like you made.
I appreciate your sharing how you felt attacked. That's useful feedback. And, I'm going to have a better approach in future when I point out how someone's actions can harm people. It is not me attacking you. Calling a type obnoxious so bluntly is destructive.