Printable View
A skincare thread since I thought that would be fun. :love: (A fairly common quarantine hobby, from what I've read).
As per the title goes, what is your routine like? What products and ingredients do you enjoy? Conversely, are there any products and ingredients that you can't stand? Any skin care YouTubers you like to watch? Any other things you can think of regarding skin care?
Since hygiene goes all ways, anyone can participate in this thread of course.
For cleansing nowadays I use Kiehl’s because it’s easy to find anywhere. It was a straight male ESE actually who first recommended them to me, and I got a bottle of cleansing solution as a gift from someone. I love their standard cleanser and also microdermabrasion stuff lol.
I’ve purchased a lot recently so it’s like you’re psychic @Vex . This past week I’ve gotten my skincare so that I don’t need to wear foundation or concealer (in the first place I only ever wore a bit of concealer or BB cream on blemishes anyway) anymore except if I want to cover dark undereyes (I’ve ordered something natural for that on the way too).
I’ve started using the following concoction of shit (I basically just bought the cheapest options available-$5-10 USD per bottle):
- Vitamin C
- Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)
- Retinol (Vitamin A)
- Hyaluronic acid (humectant)
If I need more moisture then I top it with snail essence by CosRx. I live in a humid environment and haven’t experienced winter yet since doing this but the above makes me pretty moisturized already so I don’t use an extra moisturizer.
I’ve also recently bought and experimented with the following:
- LED light therapy mask with 3 different colors
- Ultrasonic skin spatula
- Dermaroller (as I’ve mentioned before)
Also, I know people say to use SPF but unless I’m doing significant walking outdoors I don’t bother in my current location where the UV index is quite mild.
Shower with whatever, currently Dove soap bars.
Maybe a body/face exfoliate depending on the day and then some form of Palmer's coca butter moisturizing product.
My Irish heritage has left me with a lifelong desire to be darker than pale white and the inability to achieve this condition through tanning. Nevertheless, for most of my life, I persisted. The result was freckles when I was a teen and age spots on my hands (easily the body part most exposed to the sun) now.
I decided that age spots make me look like a hundred-year-old smoker, which is really unattractive, so I started applying Retinol to the back of my hands. Apparently, it works by stimulating cell growth.
It has had three effects.
One, it seems to have burned all the hairs off the back of my hands. That, or regressed the skin to a point prior to when I had hairs on the back of my hands.
Two, it caused 90% of the age spots to fade away, although this is a slow process.
Three, it seems to have rebuilt the stuff under the skin so the veins are not visible.
I recently compared hands with my SLI ex, who is seven years older than me. My hands look like they did when I was thirty. Her hands appear to be anatomical models of the circulatory system, with a very thin, translucent layer of skin seemingly spray-painted over large, ropy veins and prominent tendons. I told her she could have younger-looking hands, and she, who has always wanted to be old, said that she liked her hands as they are.
Well, I had a once-beautiful sports car that had gone to rust, and while the rust spoke of its long history, it didn’t make the car better.
Not being drunk all the time did wonders for my skin too.
I once heard that makeup was bad for the skin. Can anyone confirm this?
Makeup is like clothes. Probably not the ideal solution, but it's what we've got.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman
Skin has had millions, if not hundreds of millions, of years to evolve. It's pretty amazing, and if if could be made better with the application of colored grease, we'd probably have evolved to exude colored grease.
I mean, more of it.
One way in which skin is amazing is in it's color. The major problem that humans have when they acquired large, energy burning brains, is how to get rid of the excess heat?
First, we lost our hair. Then, we got sweat glands on all exposed skin. And somewhere in there, the skin turned dark in the visible spectrum to better protect the body from ultraviolet light and in human variants that didn't get so much light, turned white. But in both cases, regardless of the skin color in the visible part of the spectrum, skin is blacker than coal dust (no mean feat) at a wavelength of ten microns. This is so it can most efficiently emit radiation away at body heat temperatures.
If you could see people at wavelengths of ten microns, they'd all look like dully glowing constructions of black, black coal dust.
But we can't see at ten microns, because the skin inside our eyes is glowing, too. It would be like having the flash inside the camera.
Americans have a weird habit of only using sunscreen at the beach or hiking. I once heard this dude say something along the lines that sunscreen was too feminine. Skin cancer and premature aging is not manly yo! :agent: (daily wear reduces chances of melanoma by 50%!) Don't fuck with the sun, lol.
European and Asian sunscreen is light years ahead of American ones due to the FDA not approving new ingredients in 21 years. They honestly look and feel disgusting and European/Asian ones are objectively superior. Asian ones are cheaper and more cosmetically elegant (so sheer you can't feel it, little to no white cast) so I'll give some recs.
Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence
-zero (!!!) white cast
-water and sweat proof
-spf 50+ pa+++
-alcohol based
Canmake Mermaid Gel
-spf 50+ pa++++
-no cast (chemical)
-dewy finish (less rec for oily skin)
-makes you feel like a mermaid
-no alcohol (longer to dry tho)
-no water/sweat protection
Klairs Soft Airy UV Essence
-spf 50+ pa++++
-vegan (clearly a marketing ploy but if you fi bitches are into that)
-water-based, includes alcohol
note that the above are usually used as face suncreams. It's more cost efficient to go for a large tub/pump sunscreen for a body cream, personally
protip: you can reduce the price by going directly to sites like Rakuten and GMarket
If I washed my self that day I won't do nothing on my skin, if I didnt and I'm too grasy then I'll wash my face with charcoal black soap. Sunscreen because I've sunspots already.
I use facewashing gel with aloe after machine shaving to reduce chances of inflammations. And when walk >5 km per a day use softening and wound healing cream for feet to reduce possible wounds.
In Russia most men use nothing, except by medical reasons. Sunscreens are not used, generally, though our place is sunny and warm only some monthes per a year and to be on air much of time is not common for towns people. Who needs to protect the skin from the sun may use a cap or panama.Quote:
Originally Posted by snek
Someones may use perfume on datings, special events. Or when are on high posts where good appearance matter more.
I gave up washing my face and my mild acne cleared up. Your skin has natural bacteria that equalize the atmosphere and eat the bad bacteria away. It’s hard to do the first few months but trust me don’t touch your face and don’t wash it
I really think it should start with the diet.
Don't eat any junk food, avoid bad carbs. Just healthy stuff.
Eat good fats.
I have recently been diagnosed with an infection in my eyes and eyelids. I got medication for it, but I am also improving my diet, because I have noticed in the past that eating really healthy / lowcarb diet improves my skin and eyes.
My issue is dry skin, 'cause I live in the desert. Another issue is cold skin, 'cause I'm cold easily.
If I go a few days without washing my skin, it gets a protective layer that keeps me a bit warmer. I recommend this for the winter months.
I wash with body wash, or sometimes goat milk soap. Occasionally I forego the soap in favor of a light coating of olive oil and a plastic scraper from the hardware store. This works surprisingly well and leaves skin smooth, moisturized, and water-resistant. I've never dried off faster than the first time I tried this method (which I heard the ancient Romans used). But I've also wondered whether it made my skin absorb more sun, as I seem to feel warmer when I'm outside after having washed this way. Maybe don't use this method in the summer months.
[Normally soap works by breaking down oils which bind to grime, allowing water to rinse it away. Oil works by binding with the oil and grime directly, so scraping it off scrapes it all off.]
I also use lotion. I recommend the kind that smells pleasant and isn't too runny.
In the past I've used book tape or elmer's glue to remove dead skin, but I think scraping works better.
I don't wear makeup, and people have complimented my skin a few times, so there could be a correlation.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman
Basically up into high school, I never used soap on my face. I just washed it with water, and only once a week. I don't recall why I was resistant to the idea of using soap on my face. (But I mentioned it to my girl scout leader in middle school, and she thought that was a good idea.) Now I use soap on my face once a week and water on it daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautiful sky
i don't really attend to my skin or hair, mainly because i am ugly, but also because my skin is generally quite oily and i'm not old enough to try to de-age my appearance. but i don't know if i would as i'm kind of all or nothing in the realm of looks. if i don't really think i can be beautiful enough i don't see the point in trying.
my hair is more of a problem as it used to have this natural shine and it's become "lifeless." i suspect it's probably my terrible diet but i feel powerless to fix that either. i feel deep down that i'm probably really unhealthy but i really don't believe there's any hope in getting better.
i don't have any motivation to do anything and basic things like taking care of practical needs are an overwhelming disorienting nightmare that i don't understand.
i used to strangely mock notions like "self-care" in my mind but it's kind of apparent that i am simply uncared for. there's no mother inside me to nourish myself.
Great now I have an idea of what gift to get youQuote:
Originally Posted by DirectorAbbie
SKINCARE!!!!!!!! I'm so passionate about taking care of my own skin it's ridiculous lol
micellar water is my holy grail (i love primera's brand) and i never use anything with fragrance or alcohol in it. i basically also use the same concoction @sbbds is using XD except sometimes i switch out my retinol out for a peptide serum bc yes. and as much as i hate using spf i do it anyways (except for the days where i know ill be skulking around at home)
my skin isn't exactly "aging" but i'm really gung ho about preventing it bc.... i like looking and feeling like a soft, glowing marshmallow at all times of the day (except my skin color is tan so make that a brown marshmallow instead lol)
for my body, i wash with goat milk soap like a couple times a week and then moisturize the dry spots with coconut oil
i use a nourishing green mask weekly and uhhh... what else
oh ya, i also dry brush my body before showering just to loosen up the dead skin cells
sometimes when i'm feeling extra boujee i use my rose quartz roller. i freeze it while im in the shower and then use it after ive papped all my serums on
i also just cleanse my face at night, in the morning i just splash with water and then use micellar water
good diet and regular exercise is good for getting that glow. also SLEEP. sleep is very important kids
i also don't really wear makeup anymore bc im lazy but if i had to then i usually oil cleansed and then used a reg cleanser after
i forget what else i do tbh- it'll probably come to me when it's time to do the thing lol
(oh yes and a beeswax lip balm with spf daily- reg lip balms dry ur lips out like the plague)
I use this one too lol it’s also cheap, and it smells good/lightQuote:
Originally Posted by snek
It’s on Amazon too btw unless people are trying to boycott it
Basically yes lol unless it’s “natural” and “dermatologically tested”, and even then just by virtue of being some shit sitting on your face for hours upon hours a day AND needing to undergo a cleaning process to get it off (and likely some residue after anyhow, realistically speaking)...Quote:
Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman
It doesn’t have to cause everybody to break out and some people are diligent about cleaning it off their faces daily but as a rule unless it’s designed as a quasi skincare product, it’s not really “good” for your skin.
99.999 percent of skin care on the market is a gimmick; a marketing gimmick. The only moisturizer one needs is probably vaseline and sun block
wow there's so many things I have to say on that I don't even know where to start. Thus I'll cut to the chase: you're overthinking and too negative. Just go to da fuckin' shop and buy some nourishing shampoo & a clay mask for oily skin. You'll never know how beautiful you can get if you don't try. Start taking care of yourself in little steps, it'll work out. Rome wasn't built in a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by inumbra
Well the smallest size which most people use probably is 0.25. There are lots of tutorials online. You can start with barely touching at all to increasing amounts of pressure, on hands first, before trying it on your face.Quote:
Originally Posted by ergot
This is how secretly hot people talk about themselves lol. Y’all can’t fool me.Quote:
Originally Posted by inumbra
I read an article somewhere that your skin is even capable of clearing out cancer cells if you let it’s good bacteria thrive
I guess I’ve started wearing SPF/sunscreen a few days ago. If you have very fair skin (especially warm-toned), I recommend Dr. Jart’s Cicapair Re cover. It is slightly green tinted and doubles as a soother and redness reducer. It cancels out my purple eye bags. I haven’t been wearing any other makeup or foundation at work for the past little while, just this. It rhymes with shart too.
Scalp and hair are closely related to skincare. @inumbra (and others) how often do you guys wash your hair?
I have dry/lifeless hair as well. I used to wash it daily or almost daily but have been experimenting with washing it a little less often recently. It seems to be helping, but it’s still not as lustrous as it used to be...
i converted to organic skincare 10 years ago i guess, and since then i dont use basically any brands anymore, if not sometimes to test some new organic nice labels that are our in the market... but i tend to try those and get back at my selfmade products.
basically i just use raw products, almond, karite, coconut, olive, castor, hemp, rose oils, mixed with aloe vera and essential oils as lavender, tea tree, lemon, whatnot. my skin has been grateful ever since. also it's fun to do : )
just a note on not washing and dermarollers: to each their own. i tried both and they are not for me, if i dont wash my face for over a month my skin becomes a minefield and it resulted in massive acne in the past, of which i still bring the scars.... i tried to get rid of them with dermaroller, only to get them worse :/ not saying it's gonna happen for everyone, but each one has a different skin and if your skin is super dry and sensitive (like mine), you should probably treat it with extra care and not washing or dermaroller then are not ideal...
as a sunscreen i use my cc cream only, although all natural oils have a mild spf. https://www.erbolario.com/it/acido-i...nico-2863.html, it's a very organic, clean, nice product, but it falls under make up i think
I'm currently barely washing it, maybe once a week. But before covid it would be at least every other day. Its condition is the same regardless, which is why I wondered if it's nutrition related. But now that you mention it my hair is less oily than it used to be. Years ago when I hurt my knee and couldn't get in my shower I went a long time without washing it and the oil it collected was really something to behold. Within days it was a horrifying oil cake. It's obviously less oily now, way less. It hadn't occurred to me it might actually be dry, probably because oil still seems to contribute to its ugliness. But maybe now I'm just a mere mortal, oil is no longer my hair superpower. Be careful what you wish for I guess, I always wished my hair was less oily lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
I also wondered if it's age related. I'm in my late 30s and the pigment seems to be fading.
Oh no I'm becoming dry and brittle. The implications may extend beyond my hair. Will I be motivated to take vitamins, or will I continue being lazy... All along the hair was the canary in the coal mine.
I also just realized it could mean menopause is coming. The hair might signal one's fertility... I just imagined myself rushing into the doctor's office like a crazed lunatic saying, "I need more female hormones, I don't want to become more masculine!"
I wash my face morning and night with dove soap and that’s it. I’ve tried moisturizers and creams but they just break me out. I also will break out if I don’t wash my face twice a day.
i use neutrogena hydro boost foundation with hylaluronic acid during the day as a light foundation and this seems to work the best for me
I just got an AHA/BHA serum from The Ordinary and I LOVE IT!!!! I only leave it on my skin for a minute and feel it taking effect already. I feel like my soul has been cleaned out.
I'm pretty simple. I use a lot of face wipes like Yes to Cucumbers and Yes to Watermelon. I use heavy face moisturizers because I have dry skin, like Dior Capture and FAB lines. I use creamy face wash and sugar face scrubs and I also use sugar lips scrub. Body stuff I like Bliss.
IME eating better has helped my hair lol, among other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by inumbra
I wash with a bar of soap and cold water. Cold water keeps tuh skin from drying out, soap = clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex
...
https://pics.me.me/soap-is-soap-69177763.png
I literally died
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFz7lw7H...=1xjrqvq2fpk33
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What does this even mean? That Italy’s beaches are filled with white guys who look like African-American midgets? Sounds like a hell of a vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reyne
Haha. And the national anthem ;) and all the Sfera lyrics and you should also go on Dicsord and take my test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reyne
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm next to hopeless. I was wiping up spilled coffee and prior to throwing the caffeine soaked paper towel in the bin thought I'd wipe it across my face. "Mmm! That feels tingly and nice." Then I went back to my colleging from home. That's all I have done to my skin all day.
Edit: Actually, hold up. I guess quarantine might be upping my skincare game because I also rubbed my apple core on my lips when it occured to me vitamin c was in the core I was about to chuck. I did that while I was interwebbing and noticed they felt great afterwards. So two chaotic, split-second decisions to do something weird to my face.
Instead of 'found art,' it's found skincare.
years ago I used that proactive stuff and noticed my skin looked fucking great. But I kinda came to the conclusion it might actually be not great healthwise. Not sure, but...I just stopped washing my face mostly. Every few weeks I use a blue clay mask for 2 bucks. feels great and makes my skin look good and supposedly isn't as corrosive or something
Red Light Therapy
My skin and hair right now look better than they have in years. Better than ten years ago. Better than last year! Way better. Its been my secret delight lately. Looking at my own hair. I was not blessed with beautiful, thick, long hair, which I would like (perhaps God thought that would make me too vain), but this is my best hair ever.
This is the completely unexpected "side" effect of Red Light Therapy. "Side effect" for me, anyway, because I did not begin daily red light therapy for that. I invested in the red light in December (it came end of February) to have more energy, after seeing that Ari Whitten's "Energy Blueprint" adherents find it highly effective. I sure slept better immediately, and it does give me daily energy. So mission accomplished. When I invested in the lights, I did read that it gives you better, younger looking skin, and hair that is thicker, stronger and more abundant, but I did not believe that. Especially not the hair part. My fine hair has been such a chore to make look good because it has been slowly thinning. There has just been less of it. Fine hair thinning is not a good thing. You don't notice thinning so much with thick hair.
Well, this month I realized that I have completely different hair than last year - or any other recent year I can remember. With Red Light Therapy it started growing faster immediately, which I thrilled to see,. During quarantine and summer I kept trimming it so that the back, which had a lot of broken hair, could catch up to the front and sides. Then one day this month i realized it's been a long time since I pulled a bunch of hair out of my hairbrush, and I used to do it ALL the time. My brush should be full now. I looked at it - but hardly any hair was in it! Mostly just hair dust down at the bottom (I dry shampoo it during the week). Then I realized that the fuzziness around my part and crown that seemed a flaw when styling in the morning was actually a ton of new hair growth, mostly all about 3 inches long now. And no matter where I parted my hair I could see lots of the very same new growth - it is throughout. And it even feels thicker at the base then the bottom. Even when it's wet if feels thicker! So I love it*. Wow. It's doesn't have to be ALL downhill after 40.
My skin looks better now too and that started very shortly after I started red light. By "better" I mean, with the exception of days when I let my self get sleep-deprived or overwhelmed by some stress, most of the time I look like I just came off some vacation with lots of fresh air and sunshine. And it is amazing to achieve that look in winter quarantine in the cold north! Red Light Therapy is effective for everyone, but maybe particularly for us Northerners who just don't get enough sunshine. Also ALL my skin looks better, not just my face. (Proper Red Light therapy is a full exposure kind of thing).
Skin
Throughout my younger years I used lotion daily, many different ones before I got picker and pickier about what was good on my skin. I considered my skin to be dry-to-normal, and wanted to prevent dryness, especially my face. Now it doesn't' ever seem dry, perhaps due to diet changes over the years of less and less carbs, to even keto often now.
I don't invest much in skin care, but if I did, I would definitely use sbbds's Kiehl's products. I bought a precious (not cheap) bottle of their lotion once and it was lovely, and no bad ingredients!
I stopped using daily lotion when I asked my naturopath what he recommended, and he said nothing! He said as long as I am doing what else I should, I shouldn't need it, but if I feel I must, he recommended a little butter or cold-pressed olive oil ! Butter! What I use in lieu of lotion now, usually after a shower in the heating season, is his third recommendation, which is his lotion-like animal fat enzyme solution that people take internally for healing. So what is in common with all his recommendations for the skin is they are all consumable.
If it ever seems that washcloth exfoliating has not been enough, I use a couple drops of a folic acid solution I found on sale at the health food store awhile back. It's effective.
Does anyone do dry-brushing? I need to start this routine up again. It is really good for you.
Favorite Skin and Hair Products
My very favorite soaps, which I buy in bulk for a good price:
Pre De Provence milled soap from France, Linden scent (I love this scent!): https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/12...g?v=1569023865
Sappo Hill (glycerin creme soap) Almond scent (I love this too!): https://www.sappohill.com/images/pro...0Round%201.jpg
For shower deodorant soap: I love Pure & Basic Green tea soap! Good scent, effective, pure: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....RL._SY355_.jpg
Pure and Basic also made my favorite Cherry Almond shampoo and conditioner, which I would buy in bulk, and now it is pretty much impossible to find. They must have discontinued. I loved that scent, and the safety of the product.
Deodorant: I used Thai crystal (rock salt) stick deodorant for years and then the spray because it's easier. Nothing better! Very effective. Lets you sweat but no smell and no masking scent! I don't like smelling my deodorant when I am sweaty! I see there are recipes for making your own so I will look into that.
What I do want to smell is Attar Bazaar's French Gardenia. I love it.
Makeup
I use Everyday Minerals semi-matte foundation powder. Pure minerals, and cheaper than Bare Minerals. Burt's Bees eye pencil. I would like to find a healthier eye shadow and mascara though, if anyone has a recommendation.
The Sun
We need vitamin D! No sunglasses. I have successfully avoided sunscreen in recent years. I am fair, so if there is going to be a beach day - these aren't that frequent as it's day trip - I wear a straw hat and if I feel a burn coming on I will throw on a white linen shirt and sit under the umbrella shade to avoid sunscreen. Early in spring I start weekend sunning on the private roof deck for an hour, between noon and 2pm - which is the recommendation optimal vitamin D intake. When it is too hot for that in summer we have a 10'x30" pool to float in, which always gives me a refreshing feeling of wellbeing. I get a slight tan, and I am fair so that basically amounts to different shade of white. I used to burn easily but maybe it's dietary changes but I don't so easily now. This summer I got sunburn from our very long walk on a beach day and once home I did red light therapy and it was basically gone the next day. Pink but not painful.
_____________
Recently my husband and I just added collagen (BioTrust) to our daily protocols. I read about it, and asked my naturopath, and he said yes, he recommends it. I have hope it will give my husband's joints a new lease on life. I also got him CBD oil which he started only yesterday but that takes some time for it to kick into your cannabinoid system. (A system I never knew we had!). I did get the collagen for myself for vanity reasons.:halo: I was so encouraged with the hair and skin results from red light that I thought even more great results would be lovely. We shall see! At any rate, it is otherwise good for one's systems.
_______
* I love my new hair because it is so much nicer than it was, and in such a short time. If you saw it, you might not be impressed, like you would with someone who had lovely thick long luxurious hair, or someone with a beautiful rich hair color... vs., what I have decided to call my evolving natural hair color - taupe. If I have to give it a one word name. Deep brown + silver = taupe.
Morning: Rinse with water, apply thick layer of SPF 45 sunscreen
Night: Rinse with gentle odorless cleanser, apply salicylic acid to trouble spots with cotton wad(skip for a night every couple of weeks) (i can't believe it actually helps), moisturize.
Occasionally: Exfoliating cleanser
Apply vaseline on lips 24/7 since I'm always licking them, and literally any other lip product dries my lips. even honey, wtf?!
Shower: wash hair every 2/3 days. baby shampoo so that it's gentle on my hair. occasionally apply gentle conditioner when dry (when travelling or when in a less humid environment). i don't like fragrances in my products. i want to smell natural, like myself.
Other: Salt stone deodorant
Makeup: none cause i'm too low maintenance to sustain it. well sometimes I use mascara.
But really, on top of simplicity, my true skincare routine is to get enough sleep and eat a low amount of added sugar.
When I'm unhealthy I break out a lot and am pale as fuck, when I'm healthy my skin looks nice. Too bad I'm always unhealthy, rip
I’ve started using this too!!! (Lowkey tried because you mentioned it. Thank you @moloko and this thread :blow:) I love it. I have to put it on at night rather than during the day though because it’s kind of sticky and makes my Dr. Jart’s and any makeup look streaky and start pilling. Next time I want to try the kind with copper in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by moloko
I got one a few months ago too. Love it. I’ve done this before too. Usually now I just put the frozen bits under and over my eyes when I’m feeling tired. I think it actually does make a difference.Quote:
rose quartz roller. i freeze it while im in the shower and then use it after ive papped all my serums on
I’ve started putting this on my scalp sometimes. It makes it really clean and feels amazing. I also got a 2.0mm dermaroller for my scalp, and have been using that. It’s like a scalp massage on steroids. I can feel it waking up all the dragons in there. My hair feels healthier and thicker since I’ve started doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
After I wash my hair, I’m gonna try putting some vitamin C and peptides in there too
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason
I know I am more invested in the subject because I rival the olm in translucence, so I've researched it, but while we need Vitamin D, it is not a good idea to go outside without sunglasses:
"The American Optometric Association says you should always don sunglasses during the daylight hours because: They protect your eyes against the sun's UV rays, which could otherwise lead to cataracts. They protect against "blue light" from the solar spectrum, which could increase your risk of macular degeneration."medicinenet.com
lol one gay stereotype I actually don't fit. I don't have a complicated facial washing regime. Or one at all really.
I sometimes even forget to wash my face for many days at a time which very rarely results in a zit once in awhile but doesn't seem to effect me that much. And I never liked most facial cleanses in drug stores tbh - they smell bad to me. Too chemical-y and unnatural even if they put some natural crap in it to sell (whilst hiding in the small print all the weird crap you can't pronounce) and I'm not going to pay a fortune just for something completely natural either.
When I do remember to wash my face I just use ivory soap. I just go by if I feel like doing it though, I don't think it's a good idea to be too anal with this cuz of I guess what Maritsa was talking about, the healthy bacteria or natural oils maybe something like that. Omg that meme is hilarious lol.
Yet, that is the standard recommendation. Also being fair, I could not have grown up not being told that I need to slather on high SPF lotion all the time. Ick. It never felt right. And wear sunglasses just seemed the thing to do as well. But I have noticed that the often standard medical recommendations* lead you to needing to go to the doctor, MORE, not less. Go figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanashi
So many "opposites" when it comes to medical recommendations. Like, eat a low fat diet to lose weight. We heard it so much it was a no-brainer to us all. Now the latest studies show it is the high fat diet that makes you lose weight fastest - plus it heals all manner of diseases and disorders. Also we have been pushed to eat high fiber diets, and I think works against optimal health as well. (I tried to find that for Subteigh recently and could not find the excellent series of articles I read on that and wil ahve to keep looking for them another time.)]
Here a doctor explains why she (mostly) skis with no sunglasses or goggles:
https://medium.com/@StillmanMD/why-i...s-d72cfa1ada45 She says the tests that support protecting yourself from the sun are bad science, basically. I agree.
It gets harder and harder to find things outside the mainstream when you google anymore, but here are a couple of articles that support my thinking on the importance of skin and eye exposure to sun for our very necessary vitamin D (I used to be able to find more, faster):
https://www.avenamedical.com/blog/we...nglasses-wrong
https://integraleyesight.com/visionmyth5/
I have been interested in sungazing for some time now. I almost started it last year and I wanted to follow all the directions exactly but there is no place to stand on the ground here and see the morning sun because it is behind big hills/small mountains... It all seems a good idea to me, but I do want to do it right... right now I leave in the pitch dark and will for some months now so, oh well.
I wash my face in the shower in the morning & use Neutrogena body clear body scrub on both my face & body. It exfoliates & has aloe & chamomile & is a salicylic acid acne treatment. Sometimes I use Neutrogena's grapefruit face wash instead. Once in awhile I'll use one of the fruity smelling exfoliating clean & clear face washes. If I have eye makeup on (because admittedly I don't always do this for my foundation) I'll use some type of Neutrogena makeup wipes at night.
I don't moisturize my face, because I don't like to put anything oily at all on my face for fear of breakouts. I stay clear of soaps like Dove or Olay for this reason too. I'm also allergic to sunscreen so no SPFs.
I use Aveeno lotion on my hands, arms, & legs.
I recently also bought Aveeno shaving gel, so I'm excited to give that a try. I picked up Dove unscented deodorant for sensitive skin, because I heard it's the best for razor burn too, so that's another item I'm about to try.
Random but a friend of mine who works in the asian entertainment industry told me that some K-pop idols get Vitamin c intravenous or injection shots with needles before performances so that their skin looks glowy and moist.
I always thought I was just blessed with good genetics, but now I can attribute my gorgeous skin to drinking OJ!Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
Morning:
- Wash face with water only
- Toner
- Moisturizer
Evening:
- Oil cleanser
- Gel cleanser
- Toner
- BHA MWF, AHA T
- Serum
- Moisturizer
- Find products that are applicable to your skin type. I do find COSRX and Innisfree are great brands.
- Don't go outside if it's too sunny. If you have to go outside, wear sunscreen (SPF 50).
- Skin products are useless if you don't have regular sleep and good diet. If you are too stressed it can have a lot of effect too.
- If I don't moisturize I get red marks or acne.
- If products and healthy lifestyle don't cut it try spearmint tea and/or primrose oil supplement.
I'm curious if you've seen any benefits with the LED mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbbds
LOVE skincare, such a fun thread @Ebony and interesting to see what others do. My skin is combination and I live in a climate that's humid in summer and dry in the cold winters so I really have to mix things up seasonally. Once upon a time I tried going without washing my face (just water) and it was the worst decision of my life, although I know people who swear by it.
Morning
-Cleanser depends on the season. CeraVe and VaniCream brands from the drugstore here in the States are great. The most enjoyable cleanser I've ever used is the Paula's Choice perfectly balanced foaming creamy cleanser, but it's expensive for face wash.
-Obaji Sunshield SPF 50 (matte). Sunscreens have come a long way in terms of lightness/no cast and this is one of the best I've tried.
-CeraVe or VaniCream light moisturizer
-I mix drops of different serums into my moisturizer depending on the day: Niacinamide 10% if I need clear skin, Vitamin C for my face only (my neck is too sensitive).
Evenings
-Cleanser
-More intense moisturizer than daytime--mix in serums as needed to target different issues
-Best product in the WORLD: Paula's Choice BHA 2% liquid exfoliant. You will have baby smooth skin.
-Tretinoin (Vitamin A) 0.05%. I used to have to pay an arm and a leg for this Rx but now I cheat and buy it overseas
-Organic castor oil ($10 from Kate Blanc) to condition my lashes and eyebrows--you'll have super long lashes and less sparse eyebrows and you won't have to spend a fortune on those scary eyelash serums.
A couple years ago I started doing light chemical peels and microneedling every so often. Sometimes I do charcoal masks for a breakout or a thick moisturizing mask in winter. For my body I use a thicker cream like Eucerin on my feet/elbows/rough spots and just a regular 'ol body lotion or oil after the shower.
My best tips are to apply any leftover skincare to the backs of your hands (especially SPF and retin-A). Investigate what you need to do to balance your hormones if you struggle with adult acne. Eating more healthy fats and getting enough sleep is big for me, too.
current am (the last 3 months)
purito cleanser (a lot like the low ph cleanser from cosrx, i rotate between these two and cereve hydrating cleanser.)
biore eatery essence sunscreen
neutrogena hydro boost geo cream (dupe for cliniques moisture surge, absorbs super fast so i love it)
and for my acids in the morning
the ordinary vitamin c serum (twice a week), aha / bha peel as needed
pm
hada labo gokujyun cleansing oil, i use this in the shower to wash my scalp too. amazing stuff!
purito cleanser
pyungkang yul essence toner(sometimes i layer it a like 3x)
azelaic acid (if my skins healing from a pimple)
gel cream mentioned above
i wish i could do face masks every day TT, but a few times a week after the toner i do narukos repairing face mask
i used to have like 7 steps each routine but i've cut back to just what i need bc a lot of products were not necessary (like ampoules, some essences, the multiple chemical exfoliants). a lot of skincare lines are just money grabs tbf. my skin isn't too problematic either.
I haven’t experimented with it consistently enough yet to say for sure, in light (lol) of all the other things I’ve been trying recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emily
I accidentally bought one without eye holes and had to drill some in later. Even so the lights are really bright so it’s hard to do anything else at the same time.
The ultrasonic skin spatula is more immediately effective imo.
I use dish soap, usually Lemon, for washing my face and body. Less garbage in it and cuts the grease. $8
I use Chlorohexidine detergent %4 surgery soap for my face and body every other day or evening. Good for acne. $6-12
I use antibiotic topical medication on the inside of my nose for redness. $20
I shave with buzz clippers. Cheaper and easier to shave while I travel for work. Plus it looks better and achieves the 5 o'clock shadow look.
I use Aqua Velva Classic Aftershave. $8
And that's it.
I use those little bottles of liquid soap in hotels to shampoo and wash my face and body. I have a large box full of them, collected while traveling.
I shave with a Gillette Mach 4 razor.
I wear sunscreen if I think I’m going to be out in sunlight for hours, but I don’t obsess over it.
If my hands get really dry, I put lotion on them, but I read that any oil will work as well. Not motor oil.
Since this is a skincare thread, I wear protective clothing and gloves when I’m working with wood or welding. I wear short sleeves and never gloves when working with metal-cutting machinery, because getting a sleeve or glove caught in a moving machine is much worse than getting your skin caught. Skin parts at point of contact, a feature probably evolved from when people were game animals. Cloth will pull you into the machine.
lol this thread.
the long list of products in this thread is a little overwhelming. and i'm wondering if I'm neglecting my skin not doing these?
I'm sure you're not doing anything wrong, just not as into the topic as some of us. For what it's worth I feel overwhelmed looking at the political threads....Quote:
Originally Posted by nanashi
I'm okay if my skin dies. Everything does eventually.
I believe that most skincare and makeup products are somewhat useless and essentially scams to prey on the purses of insecure women and some men. Like, eye cream isn't really that different from normal face cream, LOL. It's just marketing. I mean if you do nothing against it but at some point it's just diminishing returns when you look at benefits only. For example the 10 step Korean beauty "fad", now that's just a waste of money. I like to have a minimal 4 steps, sometimes 3, and occasionally do something amusing for fun. You can augment more products if you have bad acne or something, other then that something basic is always solid and if you breakout you can easily identify what causes it and swap it out. Less is better for the environment and your wallet!Quote:
Originally Posted by nanashi
edit: soap, lotion, spf, lip balm if ur wondering
AM
Cleanser
Sunscreen
PM
Cleanser
Lotion
That's it.
Emily, that was so kind :) Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Emily
What color is the inside of your nose without itQuote:
Originally Posted by raTG13
Outside inside corners. Not inside my nose. Sorry I didn't say that clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalinoche buenasnoches
Red colour. Same as blowing your nose frequently.
The antibiotics clears it up after a couple weeks of applying it twice a day. Its just liquid that dries on the fold of my nose.
I’m experimental with beauty products and like trying different ones. I mostly buy at discount retailers to get high end stuff. This winter is really drying and I have dry skin which forces me to continually moisturize. Most lotions don’t moisturize enough and I hate the slimy feeling. I recently found collagen gummy supplements (each bottle lasts 1 month) while passing by the beauty aisle at TJ Maxx and tried it out. It seems to work as I don’t have to moisturize as much. I bought some collagen packets and drops to add to my water.
Just tried La Roche Posay Toleriane Purifying Foaming Cleanser. It's surprisingly better than COSRX Low-pH Good Morning Cleanser which I was using previously. It's not stripping and feels great on the skin. There is no fragrance too which I like.
They have moisturizer which I'm thinking of buying, but you can get by with just this cleanser. I don't even use moisturizer anymore and my skin is way better.
You only need 4 items as bare essentials: cleanser, treatment, moisturizer, protection/SPF.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanashi
It only increases when you want to improve your skin even more, or if there are a lot of things you want to target. If you are unsure what to do, focus on the four only.
If you always wear makeup and have skin problems because of it, look into double cleansing (oil + water-based cleanser).
thank you very much...also...I don't really use cleanser, but i don't wear foundation any more...it's been like years....so ....I assume the shampoo that falls down my face as i rinse my hair is doing something maybe....I dunno...my skin looks and feels pretty ok without any cleanser....i wonder if it's missing it but just puts up with my neglect....Quote:
Originally Posted by one
I bought a men's face wash at Target. I think I like it so far. It took me forever to find it though which annoyed me- the way they had it categorized was kind of retarded and not very Ti like or something?
I also think it's dumb that all male products are so bland and unassuming. If you want to be gender normative, put maybe a hunting rifle or racecar on it or something so I can find it better instead of generic bland nothing-ness. A man should be comfortable enough in his gender anyway to use a product that has a bunch of flowers on it as long as the inside of it is still made more for men's skin or something hehe.
I wash my face in the shower with whatever face cleanser I have. I don’t have a favorite. Then I use Eucerin Original Healing Lotion on my face, even though it’s meant for your body. Once a week I use this rice water scrub from Skinfood. About once a month I use the Drunk Elephant Babyfacial mask.
I know that this may seem kind of random, but I hate the smell and texture of most sunscreens. Especially the smell. I know that I have to wear sunscreen, and I do wear it, however.
@eiemo what kind of sunscreen do you wear?Quote:
Originally Posted by eiemo
Just the basic sunscreens that you can find almost anywhere, or mineral sunscreens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poptart
Shiseido makes a really nice sunscreen that doesn’t smell or feel like sunscreen. It’s kind of pricey tho. I usually just use a tinted moisturizer with spf.Quote:
Originally Posted by eiemo
Attachment 16807
clockwise L-R:
1. Neutrogena ultra sheer dry-touch sunscreen
The formula I have is Australian and I trust the SPF 50+ rating. This sunscreen has a veil effect, and it absorbs quickly.
Unfortunately it does have a strong (yoghurt?-like, not floral) fragrance.
My skin is very dry and wrinkle-prone and I have not found this sunscreen to cause pimple breakouts. It is inexpensive and goes a long way!
2. Roller ball ? Peppermint essential oil with a jojoba oil carrier
I dot this on my neck before I head to work for the day and it noticeably elevates my energy and mood. It briefly detracts from the sunscreen fragrance.
3. Calendula and manuka honey skin cream
The formula is buttery and gentle on patches of eczema. I've shown the ingredients in case anyone seeks a similar cream or is interested in making their own cosmetics for sensitive skin - essential oil free. I personally use this as a night cream.
4. Sukin Moisture Restoring Night Cream
This cream has a vegan formula (shea butter and avocado based) unlike the other products I have listed. There is a delicate scent of evening primrose.
Though it is designed for use as a night cream, I wear it during the day.
5. Beeswax coconut oil salve (?)
More like a protective skin barrier than anything else: suitable for protecting gardener hands, hands that have been dried out by sanitiser and dish detergent, dormant sleeping hands - ideal to apply before bed. Ingredients: coconut oil, beeswax, shea butter, avocado & safflower oils, evening primrose oil.
I stopped eating refined sugar and my normally oily-ish face is not oily at all anymore. Virtually no more acne either. There's kinda no point washing it in the morning anymore.
I have also always had a pale/colorless complexion but now my cheeks consistently have a dusting of pink on them, even when I don't get enough sleep. I'm not a ghost anymore!
Those are just the effects on my face, but there are more elsewhere.
Otherwise
-sunscreen spf 45
-vaseline on my lips 24/7 because i'm always licking them
-random cleanser & gentle moisturizer before bed
-sleep (or, I try to)
During allergy season
-smother vaseline around my poor nose, when not in public
It's been a month of me not using any product on my face. I did put Benzoyl Peroxide on a spot that showed up when I used which I think is a harsh shampoo a 2 days ago and that's it. After sleeping for a long time today it has calmed down immensely. After a while I'll go back to using retinoid + moisturizer though.
This is a little embarrassing to say but...
Typical Nighttime Routine:
Sea salt face scrub.
Witch hazel toner.
Retinol
Vitamin C serum
Moisturizer.
Occasionally I will use a mud mask to do a "deep clean".
To start the day I will wash my face and put on a different type of moisturizer that has sunscreen in it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by D E M O N
Don't be embarrassed. It is attractive seeing a man take care of himself :D The guy I dated wouldn't eve wear a face mask with me and that made me sad. Hope to find a guy that is down for that kind of stuff. Your sea salt face scrub intrigues me tho! I will keep my eye out for it! :biggrin:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissDucki
https://www.amazon.com/Hey-Honey-Cle.../dp/B00819ATF8
This is what I use.
I shave a lot because I hate the sticky and scratched feeling of the sharp facial hair, and I would go for the same hairstyle as Nico Shultz, but My dad dislikes Me having long hair.
I used to have a skin care routine but now I've become lazy...maybe I need to start back.
I literally can't exfoliate my face. At least not with physical exfoliants...they cause micro cuts on my skin. I have a spin brush that I barely use...I only use the silicone brush head since it's gentle.
The only thing over the years that has shown significant improvement of my skin is apple cider vinegar...most other things don't work for me, or if they did they stop working after a while.
I discovered the best body scrub omg. Tree Hut Shea Sugar Scrub. I love exotic bloom the most, but had to settle for Moroccan rose this last time around. Which is still good imo but personally prefer the scent of exotic bloom. It’s sold out all the damn time, I have to stock up. I also use burts bess lavender and honey body wash, especially at night. It’s made me really appreciate the power of Essential oils A-Mazing. And I wash my face with soap and glory vitamin c facial wash.
These are three products im basically now hooked- addicted to.
Sometimes I exfoliate my face but too much breaks my face out. I’ve been using Bliss night serum at night with vitamin c moisturizer after burts bees rose water toner. And I use the same thing in the morning except Bliss Day serum instead.
Vasaline has always been my saving grace in anything chapped or rough. They have a small with with tins and I like the Shea butter ones. If not, then I grab a big ass tub. The only other thing that I like for my lips is Laneige sleeping mask. I wear it like a lip balm at times but it’s the few lip balms I repurchase. It’s a bit expensive but lasts awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by one
Vaseline is incredibly effective at keeping your skin from drying out. It helps wounds to heal better, because it prevents scabs from forming. Scabs actually impair the healing process. They were only evolved because the body can’t produce Vaseline.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissDucki
During the American Civil war, weaponry advanced to the point where soldiers were receiving horrific wounds and medicine was still extremely primitive, but doctors found that covering a wound with fat allowed almost perfect healing, where healing was possible.
This has been happening to me. I just put a lot of Vaseline on my lips throughout the dayQuote:
Originally Posted by one
When cleaning up the house, I found this small tube of Vaseline Lip Therapy (original) in a drawer. Probably my SLI ex bought it, and she was an expert at keeping her skin moisturized. She also had a knack for finding the best of everything. This stuff is not expensive but it works great.
And the small tube size means it fits in my travel case. You never know, when you are crossing the Kalahari, when you might need lip moisturizer.
Vaseline can help heal chapped lips, but it's also good to make sure you are drinking plenty of water and not to lick, pick, or bite them while they heal. Your house may be too dry and you may want to buy a humidifier for your bedroom. There are other lip balms out there that are more effective than just petroleum jelly. If you have cracked dry lips buy a lip scrub and a lip balm for the healing process.
I can recommend the gentle cream exfoliant from dermalogica. They're a bit pricey but non-abrasive but still gentle enough. It might have been discontinued? I have a few bottles of these in my bathroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luna Lovegood
I have a skincare routine, but the thing that really helps my skin is drinking lots of water and doing routine exercises that make me sweat a lot (like running).
which burts bees lip balm have you been using? I started using this one morning/night/several times a day, and it’s been working for me better then their other chap sticks. I also have these two I like quite a bit, use them here and there….Quote:
Originally Posted by one
https://www.amazon.com/Tree-Hut-Hydr.../dp/B07VSJWW3W
https://www.target.com/p/soap-38-glo...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
the tree hut butter I usually put over my lipstick and the soap and glory I use maybe once a day
but hurts bees has a lip oil and imo it’s so gross, don’t get it lol it’s literally the nastiest gloss/oil I’ve ever tried…couldn’t believe it considering it’s burts bees…https://www.burtsbees.com/product/hy...850904774.html
I’m so distraught…seriously
I found a routine that was really working for me. I had to change it up since my last post since I was still getting broken out . I think it was either the Bliss vitamin c moisturizer, or the Bliss Glycolic Polyhydroxy Acid. I discontinued both for a while, and my face cleared up. So now I have a new routine that hasn’t been breaking me out yet and is clearing up my face.
So I have been using St. Ives Lemon and Mandarin Facial Scrub~ I’ve tried a shit ton of facial scrubs, cheap and expensive, and so far this one is my favorite. I actually have been using this on my whole body first and foremost, and my face, in the shower and scrubbing with an organic Egyptian loofah mit. The scrub is pretty gritty and rough~ might be too much for some, and the Egyptian loofah is hard-ish, and I was like ‘whaaaaatttt’ at first lol, but it softens once it gets wet.
Then I use my favorite, I will never live without, Soap and Glory Vitamin C Facial Wash (seriously my favorite product), on my face. Then I put Burts Bees Lavender and Honey body wash on the Egyptian loofa and wash down with that.
Before bed I’ve been using Glow Recipe Avocado Retinol Sleeping Mask ONLY. My face hasn’t been breaking out, and now I really really like it. BUT (here’s the distraught part)…I got online to order some more…discontinued….DISCONTINUED!!! How will I live??? Lol. I found some on eBay, and I’m considering it :shifty:
I also put on burts bees lavender and honey lip butter before bed and when I wake up and really anytime I’m at home and I notice my lips are dry
In the morning I wash my face with my beloved Soap and Glory Vitamin C face wash. Then I swipe my face down with Burts Bees calming toner. Then I put on Bliss glow and hydrate Niacinamide & Hyaluronic Acid Day serum. But I really want to try Glow recipes hyaluronic serum…just afraid to change things up now lol
…Then I put on PUR 4-in-1 Tinted Moisturizer. Some mascara, which I still havent found one I love, concealer if need be (need to find a better one) and burts bees blush basin satin lipstick (a light pinkish nude color) and tree hut sugar lips lip butter over it.
So far this is really working out for me, but everyone’s skin is different, just have to find a routine that works :shrug: Think I’m on maybe day 6 of this, so we’ll see :p
Does anyone else use this? I love it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by one
My skin is fine after using it but my wife's dries out a lot.
It’s a holy grail!it deserved to be praised!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eudaimonia
Does anyone else use this? I love it.
(also always love hearing about your skincare recommendations yo)
So I’ve switched some things up
now I’m washing my face morning and night, first using a gentle exfoliater (st. Ives gentle smoothing scrub, rose water & aloe), followed by soap and glory vitamin c facial wash, then I use a toner (burts bees rose water toner). Then I put on a vitamin c & hyaluronic serum (Derma-E), and vitamin c eye cream. I was trying CeraVe eye repair cream, but it didn’t seem to do shit. It was my first CeraVe product and I wasn’t impressed. I was thinking about getting the CeraVe facial wash, and I’ll prob still try it because of good reviews, but….yeah…not nearly as excited or enthusiastic about it now. But the last few days I’ve been using left overs of sweet chef turmeric & vitamin c eye cream, and when I got it, I didn’t think it did shit either, but now I think maybe it was after trying the ceraVe eye cream. It seems to do better anyway. I went to target looking for Bliss Assured Dark Circle Reducing Depuffing Eye Cream. I looked everywhere and couldn’t find it, so I grabbed Pacifica Glow Baby Bright Eye Cream. I really wanted to try it because I’ve loved every single one of the bliss products I’ve tried before. I’ve only tried Pacifica body spray so far. I was thinking of taking back the Pacifica after I realized I had been looking in the wrong aisle, but maybe I’ll just keep it and try it. I haven’t decided yet lol.
anyway, after I let all this shit set on my face, I’ve been putting on. La Roche-Posey Lipikar Balm for body & face. I was pretty hesitant to put it on my face at first, but dear god!!! Best moisturizer I’ve ever tried, for the body or face. I haven’t had ANY dry skin on my face since I’ve been using it and it hasn’t made me break out at all. Now I want to try everything La Roche-Posey. But I’ve found a routine that hasn’t been breaking my face out at all and it hasn’t been getting dry at all. I might have to switch it up when it gets warmer out. Idk. The only problem I have with the moisturizer is that it leaves the face really shine and if you don’t let it sit for a few hours, and put makeup on, it causes my makeup to pill.
I also switched the burts bees out for Vaseline rosy lips. And if I put it on whenever I feel my lips getting dry- no dry lips at all.
so Vaseline rosy lips
and La Roche-Posey Lipkar Balm
——> new face products I’ve tried
i Really want to try Sunday Riley Luna & Good Genes
and Paulas Choice Toner
and some of this the Ordinary and Tula products
My skin is highly sensitive. Mechanical methods to exfoliate my face put me in a lot of pain. Using face scrubs containing acids and other detergents is out of the question because I am allergic to many chemical ingredients found in skin-treating products. I discovered a soap containing ground oats to be effective. I buy mine at https://mildsoaps.com/hypoallergenic-sensitive-skin/, it is hypoallergenic, and it treats my skin in the best way possible.