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Se type is more common among people with mtDNA haplogroup K and D (and H to a lesser extent). Fi type is VERY common in people with mtDNA haplogroups J and T and L.
How have you ascertained this? Also; what would it mean?
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Se-type has a more visual learning style and have excellent visual processing/awareness; Fi-type is much more auditory.
Seems correct. Fi subtype also seems more requiring of a formal learning enviroment, Se-Subtype is more self taught.
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Se-type has better coordination, less likely to trip, movements are
smoother.
Seems correct. Fi subtype has more "bulky" movements.
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Se-type uses deductive reasoning and doesn't miss visual details anywhere near as much, Fi-type is inductive in thought and neglects details especially doesn't notice visual cues in the environment and isn't good at true/false questions because they miss key words. Se-type keenly perceives key words.
Seems correct.
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Se-type is more mentally stable (less anxious, less needy, very unlikely rage).
It seems so, on the surface. The thing is that ESI-Se's are less emotional and more logical due to good use of role function. Some ESI-Se males are kinda aggresive though.
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Se-type is always enneagram 6 core (often 468 tritype),
1w2 is also common among ESI-Se's.
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Fi-type is 9 or 2w1 (126).
2w3 and 6w5/7 are also common.
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Fi-type is the most common of all 32 types among schizophrenics. Fi-type is also prone to bipolar disorder.
This seems a bit biased. From what data have you drawn this conclusion? ESI-Fi is prone to bipolar disorder because they're more emotional than ESI-Se. After some trauma, an ESI-Se might be more likely to become a psychopath, whereas the ESI-Fi might become bipolar, which objetively speaking seems less dangerous.
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Se-type is warmer and more gentle than Fi-types
It seems so in appeareance, Se subtype seems more sympathetic, but they're actually less empathetic than Fi subtype (due to bad Ignoring).
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they truly use the MBTI functions Si, Fe, Ti, Ne in order.
MBTI doesn't translate well into socionics terms. Unsure.
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Fi-type plays favorites,
Yes.
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is more racist, more sexist, unlikely to be feminist, more likely to have visceral hatred for individuals
Higher propensity for intolerance, yes.
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and more likely to lose control and to turn physically brutal
Unsure about this.
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Se-type frequently marries ILE-Ti. However, ILE-Ti hates ESI-Fi and ESI-Fi gets annoyed by them as well.
Don't know personally this couple IRL, but I've seen ESi-Fi's chase ILE-Ti's much to my amusement. Se-sub seems more clever in who they associate with, they do it less on impulse and more rationally.
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A higher percentage of female ESIs are the Se-type than male ESIs
(enneagram type 2 is actually more common in males than females; look at how much prettier/feminine Enneagram type 8 women are than Enneagram type 2 women; the Enneagram Institute website has them listed though Jennifer Tilly and Sarah Jessica Parker are 8s not 2 and not 6, respectively).
Unsure about all this.
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Fi-type finds it harder to adapt to new environments and new people, even though the opposite would be expected from the enneagram types.
Yes, they're kind of insular. It's they, and "their people".
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Fi-type gives unpleasant-sounding commands, especially if they lose control of their anger.
Yes.
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Se type just gives information or simply takes action without saying anything.
Or simply ignores you. Not as likely to lash out.
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Fi-type is more serious in demeanor though their humor is more light-hearted if they joke at all.
Fi-type makes "dad jokes", Se-type's humor is more sophisticated.
Fi-sub humor is kinda simple and sometimes in bad taste. Se humor gives more appeareance of intelligence.
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Fi-type is a lot more internally and physically strained, is a lot more likely to panic in danger.
Despite being sort of more "heavy set" visually (vibe,etc, usually), they're less stable, and react worse and/or slower to stressful situations.
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Fi-type looks more masculine and less gentle.
You mean both genders? Unsure.
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Fi-type uses harsher sounding words and talks in a more commanding, harsher, less gentle tone than the Se-type.
Fi sub subtype also sounds dryer, Se-sub sounds more upbeat.
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Se-type is much more likely to have a biological mother and/or maternal grandmother who were left-handed.
No idea.
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Se-type has much longer legs but members of both types are usually pretty slim.
NTR.
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Se-type is more common among popular artists (singers, actors, actresses, etc., etc)
I actually think Fi sub is more prone to these.
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entrepreneurs, bank directors, intelligence officers, police officers, military, and technicians (Se-type makes good use of introverted thinking).
correct.
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Fi-type is more common among govt workers, workers for large corporations, and the unemployed.
They also like being doctors, farmers, and laborers in general.
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Se-type has much softer voice, Fi-type speaks a lot louder
Doesn't seem very type related, but ESI-Fi tends to have a more commanding voice. I've seen female ESI-Fi's that speak very softly too.
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Se-type parents are much less strict with their children and see themselves as guides rather than rulers
Both are kinda strict.
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Fi-type parents are the most restrictive of all 32 types and resort to hitting their children while the Se-type doesn't.
I don't think hitting children is type related, beyond having issues or being scummy. Sorry, but this sounds a bit biased.
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Se-type is much more loose and casual, has greater ease of social interaction, is more open-minded.
They have more "flow" in conversation. They're also more inventive, less traditional, more random, more playful, more openminded, while at the same time more trustworthy and simpler (without any negative connotation) people. This is all a consenquence of better (complete) +Ni/-Ne HA.
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Se-type is much less predictable and their work is a lot more original, they're more creative.
Yep.
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The Fi-type plans much more.
Yep.
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The Fi-type is much more likely to say "it's definitely going to happen" while the ESI-Se is much more oriented to the present and doesn't try to think too far ahead.
Sounds right. But the Se sub is also foreseeing everything, they're just less likely to talk about it.
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The Fi-type can appear to favor the obstinate, declaring, farsighted, emotivist, aristocratic, and judicious dichotomies.
Agree, they give that impression.
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The Se-type handles Fe better
Handles a Fe atmosphere better.
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and can appear more Fe-valuing even though it should be the other way around based upon inert functions supposedly drained.
They engage easier, but they are worse at it, actually. They're less likely to be aware of how they are affecting others emotionally. Fi subtype is much better at this. They're much better at manipulation.
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The Se-type is much more attuned to other peoples' moods.
No.
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The Se-type is more playful, can "let loose" much more easily.
Yes.
I'm not sure Obama is ESI, he might be IEI-Fe (nicknamed "The Diplomat").
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Please critique/correct this post if you see anything wrong or think anything is wrong in it. Maybe I made a lot of errors, so I want to be corrected wherever I'm wrong and want more information=)
Overall good observations, but you sound a bit biased against the Fi subtype at times.