Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Type the newly elected millennial Democratic congresswoman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...l_Portrait.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ZeWDEBzoc

She seems to have a lot of support in the left, but a lot of hate coming from the right too because her leftist policies seem extreme and she describes herself a Democratic Socialist. I think it's safe to say that she's a controversial figure because of this though. I'm kind of indifferent to her atm as I haven't thoroughly read about her political views. However, on first glance I do like some of her political views, but she has some other political views that I am not a fan of. I'm leaning towards her being a type with strong and valued :Fi: based on what I have seen so far from her, but other than that I'm pretty open to what her type is.

She seems SLE to me.

It may help to see her in motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeuzWWKrew

Beta quadra seems right, but I lean more to EIE.
after watching following video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyVxMmmMZE

@WinnieW, you could be right. At 4:40, she is channeling the female LIE that I know, and I think that LIE's and EIE's have half their functions in common.

http://remezcla.com/wp-content/uploa...1-1150x647.jpg

@Adam Strange
My impression is that she is, based on the video I posted, much more likely my semi-dual than my supervisor.

LIE is worth consideration.

https://static.politico.com/dims4/de...9682060545.jpg

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Originally Posted by WinnieW

Beta quadra seems right, but I lean more to EIE.
after watching following video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyVxMmmMZE

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I suppose I could buy her as someone with strong and valued :Fe: so EIE is a possibility even though I lean towards :Fi: for her. However, I just cannot buy her as any logical type because most of the criticism for her seems to stem from her weak logic. She strikes me as an ethical type that hasn't developed her :Te: and/or :Ti: enough for the political realm where there is a higher standard to adhere to so it's resulted in a lot of harsh criticism from the right. However, she has some good ideas and that's where she's garnered most of her support from the left so that could possibly point to strong intuition, but of course she could be a sensor too.

Seems ILE

She reminds me of my old best friend - dual - who died, and reminds me of another NT alpha friend who also tested correctly as LII.

But extravert here.

there is something wrong with her

She's virtually certainly not a Te ego. She's antagonistic to and getting into public fights with media fact-checkers and the main thrust of her criticism is that they're focused too much on facts and not enough on the moral implication of her intent.

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Originally Posted by Oppai Anschluss

She's virtually certainly not a Te ego. She's antagonistic to and getting into public fights with media fact-checkers and the main thrust of her criticism is that they're focused too much on facts and not enough on the moral implication of her intent.

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I have read that being more focused on the moral foundation of society is a Beta trait.

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Originally Posted by Oppai Anschluss

She's virtually certainly not a Te ego. She's antagonistic to and getting into public fights with media fact-checkers and the main thrust of her criticism is that they're focused too much on facts and not enough on the moral implication of her intent.

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Exactly, I am pretty confident that she is not a logical type. Most of the criticism of her seems to come from her weak :Te: / :Ti:. I am leaning towards her being a type with strong and valued :Fi:, but strong and valued :Fe: is a possibility.

Most politicians get criticized on the ground that they're unintelligent or they lack expertise in something or they don't know what they're talking about. The fact is that she is rather morally scrupulous, so they can't criticize her on that ground.

I mean look at Trump, he gets criticized for lacking intelligence AND that he is morally shady. What type is he, is he weak in both T and F?

ILE-Ne soc-9w8, @vesstheastralsilky knows her duals ^^

She does come off as being a little immature and her proposals seem too unfettered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09GBnSmFg8s

She has also reminded me of this ILE-Ne girl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbgB2TaYhio

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Originally Posted by Sol

there is something wrong with her

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Hm she was posted up for enneagram discussion at another typology forum and several members have noticed is that she seems manic, and that this could interfere with any attempts to type her.

https://i.imgur.com/tDoWRQl.png

This is probably where you get the dancing on rooftops mentioned in this video. Mania is the abnormally heightened phase of bipolar personality disorder, or in russian - Биполярное аффективное расстройство

She's definitely an Extrovert, but other factors in my mind are making it difficult. For one, she's definitely r-selected. Explains the extroversion but confuses damn near all else if ya know what r-selection indicates for a personality. I mean, if we even try to splice r/K selection theory with Socionics oh boy do things get vague and confusing very quickly as all types have would logically have both an r and K selected variant that makes total logical sense within a given theoretical state of any society both in fiction and real life. Which one matters more then? Does it indicate what the type is more likely to be? Gah! Why can't things in this world be more simple dang it!?

But yeah, the quadra us Gammas have a particularly strong grudge against. She's one of them, my :Ni: tells me so. Ironically enough, that's my most beloved cousin's quadra (He's an LII far as I can tell). ESE, I'm gonna bet on ESE, because I just can't say why I dislike her other than I am anti-Communist in the most extreme sense and have a gut feeling that if we ever tried to speak to each other it'd be a coin flip for who would punch whom in the face first. She'd swing at me first I bet. I would, being the unique type of asshole I am, have anticipated it and executed upon her a "glory kill" if ya know what I'm referencing if she tried :).

ENFx.

I don't think she is ESE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyVxMmmMZE

The majority of her monologue here consists of one big Causal Deterministic stream of consciousness. Extraverted Fe valuer. My vote is ILE.

@Karatos
Very possible, hadn't thought of that. I don't think she is an introvert or sensory type in any case.

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@Karatos
Very possible, hadn't thought of that. I don't think she is an introvert or sensory type in any case.

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It's a tough call. Second most likely type is EIE-C. She doesn't seem extremely confident in the logic of her arguments, and she has a visionary, tribal overtone in her representation of her district, her people, and her populism. She describes herself as a fighter. Also, what @Adam Strange said.

mb ILI, which was studed to look closer to E on public

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Originally Posted by Karatos

It's a tough call. Second most likely type is EIE-C. She doesn't seem extremely confident in the logic of her arguments, and she has a visionary, tribal overtone in her representation of her district, her people, and her populism. She describes herself as a fighter. Also, what @Adam Strange said.

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I agree with this analysis. Out of all the type suggestions here, EIE seems like the most likely possibility as she appears to have a strong usage of :Fe:, while valuing it IMO.

As for ILE, I can see how someone could type her that, but I have a hard time seeing her having :Ti: creative and :Te: demonstrative. Anyways, I am leaning towards ExFX for her atm, her being an extrovert is now more clear to me.

Retard-R 6w5/1w2/3w4

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Originally Posted by silke

ILE-Ne soc-9w8, @vesstheastralsilky knows her duals ^^

She does come off as being a little immature and her proposals seem too unfettered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09GBnSmFg8s

She has also reminded me of this ILE-Ne girl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbgB2TaYhio



Hm she was posted up for enneagram discussion at another typology forum and several members have noticed is that she seems manic, and that this could interfere with any attempts to type her.

https://i.imgur.com/tDoWRQl.png

This is probably where you get the dancing on rooftops mentioned in this video. Mania is the abnormally heightened phase of bipolar personality disorder, or in russian - Биполярное аффективное расстройство

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ohmygosh, in that 1st video the still pic facial expression is a silly one my ILE fiance sometimes makes at me when he is acting silly over video chat.

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Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky

ohmygosh, in that 1st video the still pic facial expression is a silly one my ILE fiance sometimes makes at me when he is acting silly over video chat.

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So far I like the EIE typing the most out of all the typings here, but I'll try to keep an open mind for ILE. I'm just trying to see why she is ILE in terms of proof of her having strong and valued :Ne: and strong and valued :Ti:. I can buy her as :Ne: base as a possibility, but I just haven't seen her use creative :Ti: in any of her interviews or maybe I have been missing out on it when she does use it. I guess I could see her as having :Fe: HA, but that could be chalked up to her being :Fe: base.

so far i assumed ne-LII for her :shrug: she displays so much Ne

What we can say for sure is that liberals like her and conservatives hate her.

And that overrides any ITR.

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Originally Posted by yeves

so far i assumed ne-LII for her :shrug: she displays so much Ne

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Yes, I see a lot of :Ne: in her, but LII-Ne? I'd need stimulants or at least alcohol to act like she does. I doubt she leads with an introverted function.

And ILE? Where does she show signs of :Fi:-PoLR?

EIE has both 4D :Fe: and :Ne:

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Originally Posted by Singu

What we can say for sure is that liberals like her and conservatives hate her.

And that overrides any ITR.

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It's crazy how politically divisive she is, go on certain YouTube channels that are either Left or Right and you'll get polar opposite reactions to her. Most of the left praises her as intelligent and good for the Democratic party and most of the right derides her as unintelligent and bad for the Democratic party (which they relish in). I think she's alright, she has some good ideas that I can agree with and I can get behind, but then she as other ideas that aren't fleshed out really well due to not thinking of the consequences of implementing them and it would be better if she toned them down or just drop them.

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Originally Posted by Raver

So far I like the EIE typing the most out of all the typings here, but I'll try to keep an open mind for ILE. I'm just trying to see why she is ILE in terms of proof of her having strong and valued :Ne: and strong and valued :Ti:. I can buy her as :Ne: base as a possibility, but I just haven't seen her use creative :Ti: in any of her interviews or maybe I have been missing out on it when she does use it. I guess I could see her as having :Fe: HA, but that could be chalked up to her being :Fe: base.

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Raver, since I anmm questioning my type again you can best consider my input as her possibly being my dual, whatever types they happen to be.

EIE inert

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Originally Posted by Adam Strange

She seems SLE to me.

It may help to see her in motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeuzWWKrew

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Ah yeah. SLE E3

Lots of focus on finance and its practical contributions (for example ILE would talk things not really from this life but I wonder how EIE would phrase it – probably society).

I was thinking LIE but now I think SLE.

gross

@Doctor Weird
What do you mean by gross? I don't get it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AljakpXAh7c

Is she really a logical type?


P.S.: This board software sucks with Firefox webbrowser...
It's the only website I've trouble with, so far.

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Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007

Lots of focus on finance and its practical contributions (for example ILE would talk things not really from this life but I wonder how EIE would phrase it – probably society).

I was thinking LIE but now I think SLE.

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Does ESE or LSE seem possible in your opinion?

I used to be conservative, but I normally clash with my co-conservatives in person. After changing sides, I am sort of a centrist. I find more politicians that I like in a socionic sense once I became less a Republican. My first thoughts about her were that she is ESE. Later I began to think beta ethical type. Seems like she is not very logical.

But I think she is adorable! She wishes to focus on the ethical sphere.

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Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky

Seems ILE

She reminds me of my old best friend - dual - who died, and reminds me of another NT alpha friend who also tested correctly as LII.

But extravert here.

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She's ILE.