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useless comment passing by: you remind me of Kristen Stewart
sound would be very nice
I kind of doubt Ijness. Seriously. It is hard to say...
seems *IE
EII imo
I'm thinking ILI or EIE, leaning more EIE. I know those types are very different, but hag is a mystery to me.
Maybe sound would add enough info to narrow things down. The Kristen Stewart vid was interesting because she seems mostly ILI while ESI comes through pretty clearly sometimes (at 0:07).
I need to review hag's intro typing page, if she made one.
ILI imo
You seem like Kirsten Stewart but more off in the clouds and imaginative.
@hag you remind me a hell of a lot like an Ni lead I knew from another forum. So much so that I wondered if you were them when I saw your profile here.
Usually I write items like this off as irrelevant, but it really takes a particular kind of person to create a mixture like Bush Did 9/11 / San Andreas / Mexican carwash profile.
don't listen to them hag...they are all bad typers. They type girls they like as their duals, so don't listen to them.
Don't listen to Aki. I can type 70+ words a minute.
I think this girl is ILI - maybe you hear something that you find relatable
https://youtu.be/6r8qKLYQTXk
No she's not. This one is INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUY09JJ3he0
Hag, listen to them, you are ILI. I was just trolling.
Also they never type girls they like as duals. So you can trust them. They are reliable.
:hellokitty:
Do you have anything else that could record your voice? I think even just some really shitty phone feature to get a clip of your general tone of voice could work.
To trust in reliably wrong typing as "never type girls they like as duals" means to act opposite IR theory. While MBTI followers miss the useful IR theory to type better, besides issues with the theory.
The wish to ignore IR theory follows from the lack of noticing its efficiency due to lack of typing skills.
> This one is INTP
E or F is more possible as smiles too much
@Aki
not anyone in glasses has T type
Avatar is pure ESIness in action but video is not. :lol:
Anyways EIE and ESI mirages of the same person
https://i.imgur.com/RC34CDB.jpg
hag r u a water sign?
@hag. Question :)
You do look around a lot while talking. Hardly ever looking at the camera. Maybe this is an intuitive thing? Do you usually look around that much, or were you kind of nervous looking at the camera? Just wondering if this your 'norm'? If so, I would think this might lean towards you being more intuitive.
Hag is code for Bag, which is bags under your eyes. Dark circles under eyes=ILI.
MVIGA!
@hag Your eyes are amazing!! Good to see those again. I also like how you blink. It’s very frequent, so your eyes must be nice ‘n moist <o>
More seriously, the fact that you never look directly at the camera is a big pointer towards Se polr. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that of course, but let’s be real. @aster noticed that as well, apparently. I do not have a clue what other people are talking about when they say it seems like you value Se.
^The reason I suggested ILI or EIE is I think I see Ni Victimness.
Even an ILI would show more Se/directness than that (hag in this video).
How does it have no basis? Se is force sensorics and directness lol. Socionics literature uses these terms always in describing Se, and xII are always described as gentle and indirect. xIIs abhor and do not generate or respond (well) to force and directness. How would you expect to see Se in body language then if not this way?
SLI 1w2
Most of the time, yes... but if I speak for myself I behave this way not all the time.
If I see a reason for I do respond well to force.
Ok, but I'm not that good at typing somebody from VI alone, I need to hear the emotional expressions in the voice of a person to form a conclusion.
I wouldn't describe LII as gentle or indirect too. That doesn't even sound like Se-polr. It sounds like a feeling type description.
Then you don't rate objective reality as VI experimentally proved (in my experiment about which I said here many times) to be useful for typing, giving the typing matches higher than random and close to other methods. With better skills in it its use is easier to notice. Also you ignore original Socionics texts where impressions from nonverbal are mentioned as important. And ignore IR theory as it works through nonverbal too, what should be evident from the texts.
Those who reject VI - reject it irrationally and heretically. Mostly because having issues with noticing the corresponded impressions from nonverbal due to own lame typings and magical and heretical believes that intuition can't give correct information and only "smart words" reasonings may give the truth.
N types are gentle in the perception of S types, at least.
Also having better imagination N types may choose lesser evident and direct ways to influence, to be more creative in overcoming possible opposing. S types having better will act more directly, in general.
> It sounds like a feeling type description.
in case "gentle" was related to emotions, what is not obligately
I added this to my post while you were responding:
”xIIs abhor and do not generate or respond (well) to force and directness.”
Meanwhile, Ni lead types would be more unconsciously direct and attached than Ni polrs, showing more direct eye contact and directed forceful movements for instance. Ni creative people would use direct force and contact often, unconsciously, but with less fine motor proficiency (Si polr).
Yes, all N types should have similar body language in the sense of not being strongly involved/present in their environments. That’s definitely a part of Socionics literature, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. You don’t think this is the case I guess? But you don’t put stock in VI anyway apparently, so I’m not sure how you’re expecting your opinion in this discussion to be taken seriously, or why you’re putting energy into entering it.
It is impossible to tell the difference between Se-polr and general weak Se, and furthermore between weak Se/Se seeking and weak Se/ignoring,demonstrative, with such limited information. SLI or SEI aren't Se valuing and can be considered Se "weak", but not polr.
I suggest a new video with some Se thrown in, like with some lions or tigers, or trump, or some shit.
I think to say it’s impossible is exaggerating a lot, but obviously more information is always better. I’ve interacted with hag quite a bit and have known her for a while now. While she’s great, she’s also quite obviously Ne valuing to anybody who’s talked to her or even just seen her shoutbox posts, and I’m pretty sure her demonstrative Ni could bend spoons and enter God’s lifestream and unconsciously pre-emptively deflect tigers and lions from reaching her vicinity. Just my 2cents.
I just consulted the crystal ball I purchased for $49.99 from an obscure socionics practitioner. Jung answered and he said that he finds V.I. dubious and subject to misuse, he does agree that more information is needed to type.
Impossible wasn't the best choice of words. I didn't mean to exaggerate. Inconclusive would have been better, due to the lack of information available.
But, if you had more interactions, you have more info to base your conclusions on.
There are several types which are expected to give positive impression.
In case you'd be SLI. The conflictors (EIE possibility) may attract on the distance too. Orderer (LII) is not good for friendly relations what ruins your argument, though those people may to have other types easily.
it's clear, that her type is not EII
compare her with EII examples of bloggers, instead of senseless reasonings
@Sol Have you ever considered just writing your posts in original Russian and letting other people run them through translate apps or browser functions themselves? Just a thought I had.
http://www.facade.com/tarot/personal...Reading=single
Se valued type :)
ili or sli
I love the way that you think! I agree that in some cases it gets really ambiguous. I think the bottom line is supposed to be that Se for an Se ego is conscious, physical and highly controlled. Se for an Ni ego is still physical, but it is unconscious (being in the Super-Id), and highly uncontrolled.
I guess ESI a also possible. Do u relate more to 4 or 1?
next time record audio from a separate source, and sync tracks in a video editor like Lightworks (which is free) :thumbsup:
altho tbh it's probably just easier to troubleshoot your issue starting w/ your audio input settings and doing some tests w/ different configurations to see what works. more than likely the audio source was set to either an unused device, or the device setting was correct but the mic itself broken, or who knows. hard to say w/o knowing how it was recorded
Lol. The truth is, I think you look pretty hot, and since that happens almost never with my duals, I assume you are some other type. Maybe the hotness is because you are close to my Imago, or it’s one fire sign (Aries) to another (Leo), IDK. I just didn’t see any of the micro-expressions in your video that I associate with ESI’s. Could be that you are ESI and I’m just working from a very limited base.
I will say that your writing often seems ESI, but not always.
I still should review your typing questionnaire, if you made one.
@hag, yes, except one where you've filled out your answers. :)
SLI could be it. And yes, Ni is body wide botox shot state.
a Pity sound wasn’t available in your video however from body language/facial use I agreed with the suggestion of being similar to Kristen Stewart and also think a bit like Elisabeth Shue.
Both could be gamma SF.
So you weren't talking you were pantomiming? Why?
you give me "the weird girl" vibe.
Looked acted.
Ha I saw the Kristen Stewart resemblance too, but then her mannerisms reminded me of the singer Aurora, who I think is a EII 4 so I'll go with that.:shrug:
I found this interesting because I did exactly the opposite with my video. I automatically got into the mindset that I was talking to someone watching the video rather than talking to the camera. I was very aware of the fact that I was told to make a 30-60 minute video and that watching people talk about themselves for that long would be boring so I tried to keep it lively.
Idk if this is Fe valuing vs. not, but it jumped out as a major difference between our approach to video making. I don't think you were considering an Fe type but it was suggested a couple of times in this thread so I figured it was worth mentioning :)
@hag you vibe a bit ike lana del rey - but I don't know her type. Some say ILI or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw2wg_GK1-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Iv9yXl0Tw
Istj/ LSI.
Eye movement pretty similar to mine (yours is less hyperactive). You also look more expressive and more structured and got a more dreamy look. And you talk faster for sure, lol. Simply based on the eye movement I would say we're on the same perceptive axis.
I would say 74x perhaps, for enneagram.
@hag Based off of the video, I still think you are EII, likely Fi subtype and I got intuitive vibes from you for sure. However, I am not completely certain on your type though due to no sound.
ILI !
<3
very confidant about this typing
ILI. You don't rly remind me of Lana Del Rey I think she uses a lot more Se