Behaviour and motivation isn't linked in the slightest. Stereotyping clearly hasn't got you anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaiviay
I'm being accused of pushing a type on someone.Quote:
easily get defensive
If you knew yourself then you wouldn't have a problem with figuring out your type.Quote:
Then you think you're qualified to judge whether or not other people know themselves~this is kind of ironic.
agree, im gonna run through it with this in mind and see how it feelsQuote:
Originally Posted by lilith iris
Hello Xai, according some theory, one would have one type with a wing from each triad: heart (2,3,4,), head (5,6,7,)and gut (9,8,1). That's called the tritype.
According what you described, I think you could be 9w8 4w5 7w6, that's why you probably are/had been feeling identified with other types.
Hope this helps. :content:
Oh wow, thanks for your feedback, Aki, I appreciate it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aki
Lol I like 7s so much that I jump at the idea of having that one in my tritype, which probably makes me biased xD
Do you have any particular reasons you think I might be this tritype? If it's not too much to ask from you~
well, just because of the types you said you feel identified with in your op :content:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaiviay
I see, thank you! :) I'll read about the wings and think them overQuote:
Originally Posted by Aki
No because Tritype is nonsense. Anyone who is somewhat experienced in enneagram knows this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aki
Your constant need for guidance and your belief in Tritype is making your 6ness obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaiviay
Calling Katherine Fauvre... no, I'm kidding. Enneagram tritype is a system based on her ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
To me it does make some sense that everybody has a mind type, a heart type and a gut type...
and everybody has a dominant type, either mind, heart or gut.
I'm most likely a mind type. I'm either core 5w6 or core 7w6 with a good integration into E-5.
Yeah... I called photo typing bullshit in this board... because I don't see a causality between the shape of a face and the physiological type of a person.
The theory of Filatova has a lot of flaws, as I understand it.
Call her, if you want. She's not even typed correctly herself.Quote:
Calling Katherine Fauvre... no, I'm kidding.
What's your MBTI type?Quote:
I'm most likely a mind type. I'm either core 5w6 or core 7w6 with a good integration into E-5.
Or you could just stop harassing people about their type.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
I'm actually trying to help the OP. Tritype is nonsense and it is a step backwards. Enneagram is based on motivations not behaviour or traits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avebury
You should leave it up to @Xaiviay to decide whether she wants your help or not at this point (I don't know if she does or not).Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
As far as I'm concerned, I suggest you back off.
That's I'll I gotta say about it.
I'm pretty sure that she/he doesn't but i'm not going to keep quiet about Tritype being garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avebury
Thanks @Avebury for trying to help, again, I appreciate it
@malignantwench, it was rude for me to type this message, so I apologize for that:
I have no idea what type you really are, I don't know you personally.Quote:
Hmmm, you identify as a 9, yet choose the username 'malignantwench', easily get defensive, and put down Avebury when he disagrees with you. Then you think you're qualified to judge whether or not other people know themselves~this is kind of ironic.
Your constant need for guidance and your belief in Tritype is making your 6ness obvious.Quote:
No because Tritype is nonsense. Anyone who is somewhat experienced in enneagram knows this.
I will take your points into consideration, and for now I would like to stop this discussion.
sound like a pokemonQuote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
“To the man with a hammer everything looks like a nail. If you only have one model you will fit whatever problem you face to the model you have. What are the models? Well, the first rule is that you have got to have multiple models—because if you have just one or two that you are using, the nature of human psychology is such that you will torture reality so that it fits your models, or at least you will think that it does. I believe in the discipline of mastering the best that other people have ever figured out. I don’t believe in just sitting down and trying to dream it all up yourself. Nobody’s that smart.” ―Charlie Munger
That'd be an expensive international phone call for me. I'm not interested in paying for it, right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
She type herself as ENFP 7w8, afaik. I only have seen a few minutes of video of her, so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Asking for MBTI type in a socionics forum? Really? Let me guess, you dare to order a (rare) steak in a vegan restaurant. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
I did about 25 tests so far in the past 10 years, I guess. I test as xNxP in MBTI...
The probability distribution of the test results is of the order: INTP > ENTP >> ENFP > INFP
...and my hunch already detected some E-8 style in your posts.
Then why do people think that she typed herself a 8w7?Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieW
Tests are useless. Learning about the cognitive functions is how to figure out your MBTI type and I can't really help if I don't know your MBTI type.Quote:
I did about 25 tests so far in the past 10 years, I guess. I test as xNxP in MBTI...
The probability distribution of the test results is of the order: INTP > ENTP >> ENFP > INFP
Indeed because I have a no-nonsense approach when it comes to people that keep cherry-picking things.Quote:
...and my hunch already detected some E-8 style in your posts.
What other people you're talking about? Is their opinion of significant importance?Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Oh really. Is that so?Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
In which privious post I requested your help and what kind of help would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Some random nobodies that are interested in enneagram.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieW
Yes.Quote:
Oh really. Is that so?
You told me that you are either a 5w6 or a 7w6. Why would you tag me otherwise?Quote:
In which privious post I requested your help and what kind of help would that be?
Who are "random nobodies" for you... and why do you care for nobodies?Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Correct... but I'm not obsessed with enneagram. Not anymore. It's just a label, it doesn't change anything for me to know what type I'm in a specific typing system.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Maybe other people are more interested what type I'm.
Practicing some small talk for the sake of online socialization. :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
I assumed that they were telling the truth since I naturally see the good in others as a 9. I have come to realize that most people don't know anything other than the stereotypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieW
Typing isn't an easy task. We all make mistakes at typing ourselves and other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
I think that the perception of ourselves can be distorted, so there is no way can type yourself with certainty, only with some level of probability.
Yes, but the problem is that the theory is very complex and most people want to know something about themself or other people without having the time to study the theory in depth.Quote:
Originally Posted by malignantwench
Typing is more or less like educated guessing.
Indeed. Disintegration and heavy wings can often make typing harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieW
I think this is an assumption based on surface-level enneagram. The hard-core stuff like the defence mechanisms, harmonic groups, fixations, vices and holy ideas is what i'm referring to.Quote:
I think that the perception of ourselves can be distorted, so there is no way can type yourself with certainty, only with some level of probability.
Sigh, yep and they wonder why i'm so agitated. I have to deal with ignoring the novice's cherry-picking on a daily basis and there comes a point where enough is enough. They never see the amount of times that I've turned the other cheek and bottled up my anger.Quote:
Yes, but the problem is that the theory is very complex and most people want to know something about themself or other people without having the time to study the theory in depth.