The16types Typings Spreadsheet

Please add Shaebette xp

Thanks to whoever added me in, added my input for some of ur types hope u all like it.

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Originally Posted by Penny Dreadful

If you can read tarot and own a crystal globe, you check out as a Ni subtype, no matter your sociotype. But that's the only exception.

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If you can cook and own a stove, then you are Si subtype.
If you can read math formulas and own a calculator, then you are Ti subtype.
If you can listen music and own romantic movies, then you are Fe subtype.

So something like EII-Fi > SEI-Fe > IEI-Fe > same types with different subtype > ESI-Fi > Extroverted counter parts of the first three type+subtypes > Something bad ~

Results I calculated from some spreadsheet you've probably never heard of: 3.71 Fi 3.21 Fe 2.96 Ni 2.61 Si 2.39 Ne 2.0 Se 1.79 Ti 1.14 Te 75% Ne/Si valuing 64% Ti/Fe valuing

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Originally Posted by Chryssie

Results I calculated from some spreadsheet you've probably never heard of: 3.71 Fi 3.21 Fe 2.96 Ni 2.61 Si 2.39 Ne 2.0 Se 1.79 Ti 1.14 Te 75% Ne/Si valuing 64% Ti/Fe valuing

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Is this percentages calculations?
I was going to calculate overall number of votes for every type and chart that, but now am thinking it would be more useful to calculate typings compared to self-typings.

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Originally Posted by Director Abbie

Is this percentages calculations?
I was going to calculate overall number of votes for every type and chart that, but now am thinking it would be more useful to calculate typings compared to self-typings.

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The types I calculated are based off the average (strength and value) of all types given rather than the most frequent type.

I'm not saying this is at all a valid method of typing oneself but I found it entertaining:

I used the dimensional values of each type for one IE at a time (So like for EII and SEI I added 4 and for IEE I added 3) and then averaged them out. 14 of the 16 types that I was typed had a strength value for Fi and it came up to be like 52 total, so I averaged it out to 52/14= 3.7

Then for the values of Fe/Ti and Si/Ne it was simply just counting the majority value and averaging that.


edit: o I guess I forgot to add how I chose the types. Well I kinda just guessed, like Fi and Fe were my highest avg for strength and Te and Ti were my lowest, and my introverted IEs were always stronger so I assumed I would be IxFx with an ethical subtype. Since my Si/Ne preference was so heavy I considered SEI-Fe and EII-Fi to be my top contenders

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Originally Posted by Sol

If you can cook and own a stove, then you are Si subtype.
If you can read math formulas and own a calculator, then you are Ti subtype.
If you can listen music and own romantic movies, then you are Fe subtype.

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Checks out.
I've been too stupid for mathematics ever since the third grade. And the one time i tried to make an omelette I almost set the kitchen on fire.

Music and Rom(coms) though. Those are something else :love:

I inserted a column on the left with forum members that should be added to the list. @Director Abbie

I don't want to keep writing posts in the future, asking for individual members to be added to the list, I am just gonna put them in that column instead.

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Originally Posted by Olimpia

I don't want to keep writing posts in the future, asking for individual members to be added to the list

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The best way is to pm either myself or @Raver
Mentioning it on the chatbox works just as well. We're frequently there simultaneously.

Some idiot edited my typings.

So I just deleted them all. :P

Haha.

:o

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Originally Posted by Olimpia

Some idiot edited my typings.

So I just deleted them all. :P

Haha.

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Was your column protected?

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

Was your column protected?

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Obviously not. :p

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Originally Posted by Olimpia

Some idiot edited my typings.

So I just deleted them all. :P

Haha.

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@Director Abbie should be able to restore your column's typings with a backup.

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Originally Posted by Raver

@Director Abbie should be able to restore your column's typings with a backup.

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Past revisions are visible to anyone, @Olimpia could easily do it herself.

You can also download the spreadsheet to keep track of your typings of others and know what others type you. I keep my list in my head... It has been refined and has evolved as I observe more on various discords. Like I said typing material goldmine...I may do a list someday but only if the mood strikes me.

These were in my row from the spreadsheet I did save.

https://i.imgur.com/NDyXOuL.jpg

There is a new column or two since I saved it. I did notice someone changed Cui's typing of me to sx/so 3w4. He doesn't type me that. :p

This whole spreadsheet thing was more enlightening than I expected it to be. There has been some trolling but it could have been so much worse. It seems to be pretty cooperative even with some trolly changes.

I have never put my real self type in TIM that I can remember. I have always kept it vague, for socionics, so I am assuming most who typed me actually have read at least some of my posts so I am not talking into the wind. I see my short time as an ILI in my TIM was not taken seriously at all. :halo: I like that at least some saw I was doing it for affect, to make a point. New people might have been mislead by it, so sorry guys but... bitcoin.

Im considering ILE

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Originally Posted by Tigerfadder

Im considering ILE

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That would make more sense. I'm not sure what the rationale for IEI is...

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

That would make more sense. I'm not sure what the rationale for IEI is...

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The type has transcended past socionics through memification and has become the enlightened master race type.

:o
What does that make LSEs?

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

That would make more sense. I'm not sure what the rationale for IEI is...

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It was actually one of my first suggested type, later on I find out I value Fe. I think everyone need a starting point in the system to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by Director Abbie

:o
What does that make LSEs?

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The ultimate caretakers.

So far 93% of people (14/15) type me as LII/LII-Ti. I think I did a good self-typing job then. :D

So far 0% of people have typed me my self typing of LIE. I am not amused by your silly games


also I need clarification on what makes people see Fe vs Fi

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Originally Posted by Chryssie

So far 0% of people have typed me my self typing of LIE. I am not amused by your silly games

also I need clarification on what makes people see Fe vs Fi

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First time I have seen your new self typing. 8 huh? Good for you! :hug:

* I do not type you yet but I have seen your pic so... I might not ever type you LIE 8, sorry. <3

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Originally Posted by Chryssie

also I need clarification on what makes people see Fe vs Fi

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check my bloggers examples

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Originally Posted by Sol

check my bloggers examples

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That's still not saying anything on what you see the difference is. Yeah, you claim your impressions are intuitive and abstract, but you could also describe those impressions with abstract concepts for example, if someone feels "flowy" vs "harsh".
And all impressions one gets from people comes from a tangible motivation in those people

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Originally Posted by Arachne

That's still not saying anything on what you see the difference is.

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It's examples. They say everything. Just needs to think a little to generalize the impressions from nonverbal and to link them with types' descriptions and models. Sometimes it's possibly to analyse what bloggers do and say, - for example, with clips where they tell about themselves.

> Yeah, you claim your impressions are intuitive and abstract

They are intuitive by the source - I watch and get the feelings of traits. If the impressions have good balance to one side of traits than to opposite one - I trust to such opinion. Those traits are not abstract. In my consciousness they look in terms which you may find in types/functions/dichotomies/IR/etc descriptions. I use common classical theory.

> but you could also describe those impressions with abstract concepts for example, if someone feels "flowy" vs "harsh"

This follows from classical texts. For example, EIE compared to EII will be in the perception of LSE as more harsh. F types talk generally more "flowy" than T types. I use nothing special.

"TBA soon"
was so shy to say types for almost anyone, but not his nickname
I'm intrigued

that was funny

. . . . . Strangeling . | Viktor
Viktor: viktor DarkAngelFireWolf69? | <---- yes

I noticed that several people are typing me LII or IEI.

It's not surprising considering my style of writing in this forum. And the things I write about.

I think it's a combination of "pseudo-adaption" of weak intuition together with some common sense, experience, impressions and knowledge from what I've read before. Together they give the impression of "intuitive type". Plus being in an environment like this forum that has no use for my natural self (except for the chat box, where it's more easy to breath)

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

I noticed that several people are typing me LII or IEI.

It's not surprising considering my style of writing in this forum. And the things I write about.

I think it's a combination of "pseudo-adaption" of weak intuition together with some common sense, experience, impressions and knowledge from what I've read before. Together they give the impression of "intuitive type". Plus being in an environment like this forum that has no use for my natural self (except for the chat box, where it's more easy to breath)

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Try talking about fluffy pillows, cooking and your bodily sensations more. :rolleyes:

The Jungian definition of Si could be your best fit, probably not the socionics version (as many interpret it). I don't know anything about you really so this is just a guess that Jungian Si is best fit.

I don't care that the info does not come from a socionics related site. As Richard Bach would say:

“I'll quote the truth wherever I find it, thank you.”

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It’s important to note that introverted sensing is not solely tied to past events. It also sees how the object or sensation can be used in the future. As Carl Jung said, “We could say that introverted sensation transmits an image which does not so much reproduce the object as spread over it the patina of age-old subjective experience and the shimmer of events still unborn. The bare sense impression develops in depth, reaching into the past and future, while extraverted sensation seizes on the momentary existence of things open to the light of day.”

According to neuroscientist Dario Nardi, introverted sensing types show increased brain activity in regions that plan for the future. They enjoy seeing how something can be used in the future, or how an experience can be created. They may enjoy creating traditions that have sentimental value, like going through an advent calendar every Christmas or eating the same breakfast every Sunday morning. Basically, Si-users experience life in a timeless way. They are constantly shifting through past, present, and future impressions. The present experience will be a memory one day. The current experience reminds us of a similar experience in the past. This same experience can be re-created and enjoyed in the future.

Introverted sensors are quick to pick up on patterns in either systems or human behavior. They think about how situations played out in the past and consider how those same patterns might repeat themselves in the future. They compare and contrast present realities to past experience to see if patterns are continuing or if there is a noticeable shift or difference.

Unhealthy Introverted Sensing:

Extreme or unhealthy introverted sensing can lead to an inability to let go of objects that are tied to particular impressions. As a result, unhealthy Si-users can have issues with hoarding. Instead of seeing a coffee cup that belonged to one’s grandmother, the introverted sensor sees the impression of the grandmother; all the fond memories, the lazy Saturday mornings gathered around the table, the perfume grandmother used to wear, how her voice sounded, her kindness. As a result, the introverted sensor is unable to let go of the coffee mug because it has lost its objective reality, it has, in a way, become grandmother.

“Above all, his development alienates him from the reality of the object, leaving him at the mercy of his subjective perceptions, which orient his consciousness to an archaic reality…Actually he lives in a mythological world, where men, animals, locomotives, houses, rivers, and mountains appear either as benevolent deities or as malevolent demons.”
– Carl Jung, Psychological Types

Extreme extraverted sensing can lead to an over-indulgence in experience and sensory gratification. The unhealthy Se-user wants new and novel experiences, tastes, feelings, thrills to an excessive or destructive degree.
Examples of Healthy Introverted Sensing:

https://i2.wp.com/www.psychologyjunk...00%2C200&ssl=1
Healthy introverted sensing looks to stored impressions and data to retain an incredibly accurate knowledge base. SJs can recall with vivid detail exactly how a situation played out before or the important details of systems or people. They swiftly recall facts and details that will be important in the future. When they learn something new that they deem as important they are quick to see how it will benefit them in the future. They may enjoy collecting facts and impressions throughout their life in an effort to use them productively in some way. Lessons learned through personal exposure and observation are rarely lost.

Is Introverted Sensing “Conformist”, or “Overly Traditional”?
There is really nothing about introverted sensing that is conformist. At least not if you trust what Carl Jung wrote about the function. People have made strange leaps of judgment about introverted sensing types; that they are unable to think for themselves or innovate. While it’s true that intuition is more focused on theoretical possibilities and abstract innovation, introverted sensing can be innovative in a hands-on, way. ISTJs like Jeff Bezos and Peter Thiel innovated when they created Amazon and Paypal. There are even SJ philosophers like Thomas Hobbes and Martin Heidegger.


https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/201...erted-sensing/

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Originally Posted by Aylen

Try talking about fluffy pillows, cooking and your bodily sensations more. :rolleyes:

The Jungian definition of Si could be your best fit, probably not the socionics version (as many interpret it). I don't know anything about you really so this is just a guess that Jungian Si is best fit.

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Jungs Si and Socionics Si is the same thing. It's just that Jung digs into the core of the experience but Socionics looks more at it from the outside.

Jungs Si and "past events" has been horribly misunderstood. Jung is using that kind of language to describe the quality of the experience itself. It is definitely not a personal thing at all. It has nothing to do with my own past or memories or anything like that.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

Jungs Si and Socionics Si is the same thing. It's just that Jung digs into the core of the experience but Socionics looks more at it from the outside.

Jungs Si and "past events" has been horribly misunderstood. Jung is using that kind of language to describe the quality of the experience itself. It is definitely not a personal thing at all. It has nothing to do with my own past or memories or anything like that.

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I personally find Si an uncomfortable way to process anything and do not like to be instructed on it. Socionics descriptions of it do make it seem almost as useless as they make Ni seem when it comes to getting things done in the real world because of the potential of being overly concerned with ones internal sensations? I am not sure how it isn't personal or related to memory though. Life itself is personal and relies on memory one way or another. I will have to take your word for it. :)

Edit: I remember being new here and not one person was able to describe Si to me. I ended up sorting it myself and figuring out just how and when I used it.

@suedehead , do I seem like a Ne ego to you?

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Originally Posted by Aylen

Edit: I remember being new here and not one person was able to describe Si to me.

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It would be enough to read any text about functions.
Socionics is Jung's typology and uses same core functions descriptions. The difference of expanded descriptions does not mean it's other functions or special Jung's one. Those expanded descriptions are just secondary interpretations. Jung could to mistake like anyone (what he did even about own type) or to say something in a way that could be understood wrongly with his muddy leading Ni.
Si are sensations related to subject/human. Like taste, the feeling of comfort, aestetic pleasure, beauty - it's all subjective feelings/sensations. Same you may read anywhere. And same is at Jung - subjective sensations.

What type Tallmo has we'd could to understand only with good typing material like video. He may have not SEI, as mistakes are not rare.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

I noticed that several people are typing me LII or IEI.

It's not surprising considering my style of writing in this forum. And the things I write about.

I think it's a combination of "pseudo-adaption" of weak intuition together with some common sense, experience, impressions and knowledge from what I've read before. Together they give the impression of "intuitive type". Plus being in an environment like this forum that has no use for my natural self (except for the chat box, where it's more easy to breath)

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While SEI isn't totally out of the question -- you haven't done a typing thread, so I don't know too much about you -- this is a poor excuse.

Typical Alpha SF forum behavior (exemplified by, IMO, bg and other past members) is more focused (for example) on being entertaining or creating a light mood. It's not like anyone is forcing you to talk about technical topics, indeed most people spend most of their time here socializing -- an environment which has plenty of "use" for an SEI, although they are typically more interested in real-life activities. @Suz also has no problem expressing Si on the forum.

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

While SEI isn't totally out of the question -- you haven't done a typing thread, so I don't know too much about you -- this is a poor excuse.

Typical Alpha SF forum behavior (exemplified by, IMO, bg and other past members) is more focused (for example) on being entertaining or creating a light mood. It's not like anyone is forcing you to talk about technical topics, indeed most people spend most of their time here socializing -- an environment which has plenty of "use" for an SEI, although they are typically more interested in real-life activities. @Suz also has no problem expressing Si on the forum.

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i'm not sure if i'm SEI or ESI at this point, actually (or something else entirely)

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Originally Posted by Suz

i'm not sure if i'm SEI or ESI at this point, actually (or something else entirely)

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You're a rabbit, Suz

You gotta go down the rabbit hole.

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Originally Posted by Suz

i'm not sure if i'm SEI or ESI at this point, actually (or something else entirely)

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Don't worry Sol will do non verbals if you want to.

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

While SEI isn't totally out of the question -- you haven't done a typing thread, so I don't know too much about you -- this is a poor excuse.

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Well, it's based on some dated questionnaire, but still:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...naire-(Tallmo)

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Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007

Don't worry Sol will do non verbals if you want to.

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As I understand for polr T type is harder to select words so they together contained a sense, so I'll help you a little.
Sol types by nonverbal info. It's typed one who does "nonverbals".

Thanks for the attention.

Yeah, I'm trusting that he (Tallmo) is really pushing his analysis. :shrug:

I can tell that I can not just flow like irrational dynamic person would. I'd really have to push for it. Releasing some sort of :Fe: actually seems to be quite OK-ish for me (as I'm ethical in Sol's book). I know EII who would tell what just went on (like enneagram 9 description). Not that natural but brings some comfort, I guess.

It is a thing.

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Originally Posted by Sol

As I understand for polr type is harder to select words so they together contained a sense, so I'll help you a little.
Sol types by nonverbal info. It's typed one who does "nonverbals".

Thanks for the attention.

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I just consider it as one of the well established of Sol expressions. Do non-verbals = Sol analyses your every bodily twist​.


Or maybe non verbals are not real for me. :lol: I hardly notice anything as detailed as body movements.

Non verbal =intuition but imma sensor but still read you better than you do - sol 2k18

At the moment I am on a phone and have no access to a computer. Would someone mind adding me?

Yea i mind

I'm finally being placed in alpha~

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Originally Posted by Orthotomus

Well, it's based on some dated questionnaire, but still:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...naire-(Tallmo)

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Ah ok, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007

Don't worry Sol will do non verbals if you want to.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Sol

As I understand for polr T type is harder to select words so they together contained a sense, so I'll help you a little.
Sol types by nonverbal info. It's typed one who does "nonverbals".

Thanks for the attention.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Olimpia

You're a rabbit, Suz

You gotta go down the rabbit hole.

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story of my life... :p

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Originally Posted by Suz

story of my life... :p

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I could see that ;)

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Originally Posted by Suz

story of my life... :p

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*PETS AGGRESSIVELY*

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

While SEI isn't totally out of the question -- you haven't done a typing thread, so I don't know too much about you -- this is a poor excuse.

Typical Alpha SF forum behavior (exemplified by, IMO, bg and other past members) is more focused (for example) on being entertaining or creating a light mood. It's not like anyone is forcing you to talk about technical topics, indeed most people spend most of their time here socializing -- an environment which has plenty of "use" for an SEI, although they are typically more interested in real-life activities. @Suz also has no problem expressing Si on the forum.

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Oh yes. I wasnt complaining at all. Im totally ok with the forum and me being here. Just giving my feedback why i think some people dont see SEI. Im totally aware of that i dont seem SEI

I never made a typing thread because my type was always clear to me. But ive filled out a questionare

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Originally Posted by aster

I thought the same as @thehotelambush. That and I also thought your writing style seems static>dynamic and IJ.

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Yes thats true. Very static and technical

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Originally Posted by Aylen

I personally find Si an uncomfortable way to process anything

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I don't like Ni either. :)

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I am not sure how it isn't personal or related to memory though. Life itself is personal and relies on memory one way or another. I will have to take your word for it. :)

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You provided this quote:

As Carl Jung said, “We could say that introverted sensation transmits an image which does not so much reproduce the object as spread over it the patina of age-old subjective experience and the shimmer of events still unborn. The bare sense impression develops in depth, reaching into the past and future, while extraverted sensation seizes on the momentary existence of things open to the light of day.”

Jung is here talking about the character of the impression. He is in a way using poetic language to describe something very hard to describe. It's not about my personal memory, or past/future, but a way to characterize the experience.

Jung uses the word "patina". That's a brilliant way to say Si with one word.

The writer goes on:

According to neuroscientist Dario Nardi, introverted sensing types show increased brain activity in regions that plan for the future. They enjoy seeing how something can be used in the future, or how an experience can be created. They may enjoy creating traditions that have sentimental value,

This is were he totally misunderstands Jung, just like MBTI does. That's why I say that it's not personal. It has nothing to do with my past/future or my memory.

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Socionics descriptions of it do make it seem almost as useless as they make Ni seem when it comes to getting things done in the real world because of the potential of being overly concerned with ones internal sensations?

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Si is in fact useful, but usually only when paired with Te. Delta STs are the craftsmen, painters and carpenters of society. Si gives the person a "feeling" for materials. That's the unconscious component to sensing that Jung talks about and that is the secret of fine craftsmanship.

SEIs have more difficulties to put Si to use, it requires more adaption and development of thinking, but of course it's also possible.

What one usually sees in SEIs is poorly developed base function. Maybe that's why Si is seen as responsible for laziness. It is responsible for laziness though, but not to the extent that is believed imo.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

Si is in fact useful, but usually only when paired with Te.

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Do not underestimate alpha F types. :)
To cook good it does not need good Te. Today medicine with a lot of specializations they do ok too. Other social and arts stuff.

> Delta STs are the craftsmen, painters and carpenters of society.

all S types do this ok. including F ones, where it does not need higher economy, comlicated organisation (like mass production) or creating new technology methods

> What one usually sees in SEIs is poorly developed base function

heresy
normal typing is what you need to check your type. you strangely miss the social role of "own" type

Could someone update "Penny dreadful" to Feathers please? I wouldn't like missing out on all the spreadsheet fun.

Fail. Not See.

Type 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ElPLO9jZw

I changed my self typing on the chart to IEI-Ni to be more specific because subtypes are important. Well not important as in like super important but they add much needed detail in the play-doh of your persona. The world isn't just a cloudy ball of fluff.

its interesting to me that so many other people see me as IEI-Fe but I know myself to be IEI-Ni.

No, you neurotic weasels do not see me better than I see myself- but its still interesting to me.

I'm not sure if I should add myself. On the one hand I feel like I've made enough of an impression that people can draw conclusions about me, but on the other hand I've only started posting here recently.

I added some typings. !!

Bertrand mb added. he floods enough

@Mio Q
Do itttt! Wouldn't hurt adding in your name either way :')

I'd like to be added as well:love2:

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Originally Posted by Kavia

@Mio Q
Do itttt! Wouldn't hurt adding in your name either way :')

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Oh I've already been added since. But thank you for the support! :) I think you can just add yourself directly though.

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Originally Posted by Minde

I added some typings. !!

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You literally agreed with everyone's self-typings :lol:

@Director Abbie why is the first row no longer fixed? This makes it very difficult to compare typings.

edit: nvm, I fixed it

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

You literally agreed with everyone's self-typings

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Not with mine, for example. As I openly doubted in her being EII, about what we had not a calm discussion.
And mb also wants to see my video very much. :) I'd look at her one with a pleasure too. There would be a chance to type at least one (!) girl on two largest socionics forums (this English and the other Russian) during 10(!) years to my dual (with assurance). There is summerprincess, but I keep some doubts.

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

You literally agreed with everyone's self-typings :lol:

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Not quite! I only typed people I'm familiar with, and at least a couple of them didn't have anything in their self-typing column, partially because they themselves are unsure of their types (and/or don't care). And the ones I agree with I've thought through, so it's not blind.

:p

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Originally Posted by Sol

Not with mine, for example. As I openly doubted in her being EII, about what we had not a calm discussion.
And mb also wants to see my video very much. :) I'd look at her one with a pleasure too. There would be a chance to type at least one (!) girl on two largest socionics forums (this English and the other Russian) during 10(!) years to my dual (with assurance). There is summerprincess, but I keep some doubts.

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Haha, thanks for the backup.

Our conversation was so calm! I was calm, at least. :) So long as they're civil and respectful, questions or doubts as to my type are fine.

@Minde what I mean is you didn't dispute them (except possibly @jessica129, not sure what her current typing is).

Of course agreement can be thoughtful, but self-typings don't generally have a high degree of accuracy.

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

@Minde what I mean is you didn't dispute them (except possibly @jessica129, not sure what her current typing is).

Of course agreement can be thoughtful, but self-typings don't generally have a high degree of accuracy.

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Interesting, any particular reason you believe this? I actually think that if people have done a few tests and read a bit and report the most frequent typing they get on tests than the chances of that typing being at least close to the real type are pretty high.

I honestly think sometimes this forum rather confuses typings instead of elucidating them.

Plz add me Abbie i rly care about s0cionics

Don't we all?

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Originally Posted by Minde

So long as they're civil and respectful, questions or doubts as to my type are fine.

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I hope on your indulgence to me - wild Russian barbarian. :)

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Originally Posted by thehotelambush

self-typings don't generally have a high degree of accuracy

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They should to have not worser accuracy than experienced typers give in case of minimum study of the typology (a couple of books or comparable) theory and watching how it works on people near, to understand own type by its traits and IR. It's also obligate stage, after the initial gathering of others' opinions, - to be sure in own type - the self-typing, as there is no basis to trust others when they have typing matches <20-40% and have nothing objective to trust them. Especially to the ones who followes heresies and strange theoretical interpretations.

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Originally Posted by Delilah

Interesting, any particular reason you believe this?

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I suspect he follows the bias that the more "smart words" a typer knows, the better he types. Even if those words baseless heresy.
To know classical theory and to study to apply it correctly on practice to understand own type - will take some time. Several monthes of efforts. Those who do not do this - indeed have lower chance to understand own type correctly than an experienced typer (which uses normal theory).

> I actually think that if people have done a few tests and read a bit and report the most frequent typing they get on tests than the chances of that typing being at least close to the real type are pretty high.

Tests are helpful, but it's not enough. In <50% the average of the tests results is expected as the correct type. I was LSI in the most of test, for example.

> I honestly think sometimes this forum rather confuses typings instead of elucidating them.

Mostly because sometimes people do not give videos. :)

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Plz add me Abbie i rly care about s0cionics

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Yeah u care so much u became a LIE 7w8

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Plz add me Abbie i rly care about s0cionics

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Can you not add yourself? I just added my own column for my typings list.

lol this list is golden
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Interesting, any particular reason you believe this? I actually think that if people have done a few tests and read a bit and report the most frequent typing they get on tests than the chances of that typing being at least close to the real type are pretty high.

I honestly think sometimes this forum rather confuses typings instead of elucidating them.

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Actually, looking at the spreadsheet I tend to agree with self-typings more than I realized. In a few cases we only came to agreement after lots of discussions, e.g. @Cuivienen used to type as LIE, @Owl as EII, @Number 9 large as LSI, etc. Who knows what some other people might have typed as if they did it on their own.

People can usually get it in the right ballpark excluding external influence from MBTI etc., it's just narrowing it down to one type from the last two or three that tends to be the difficult part.

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Can you not add yourself? I just added my own column for my typings list.

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im a lazzy doggo

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Plz add me Abbie i rly care about s0cionics

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You have been given your own row. You may make a column as well.

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I too wish to be added please; im on my phone and can't do it myself

Hi again,

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Tests are helpful, but it's not enough. In <50% the average of the tests results is expected as the correct type. I was LSI in the most of test, for example.

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You know, for an LSE getting LSI on tests is not that bad. First, it got that you are rational - that's pretty good. It also was on the money that you are ST club, that's also pretty good. Maybe it just somehow assumed introversion and that might have something to do with your subtype (could you be Si subtype?). Anyhow, my point is that those tests are close to your self-typing (and I have no problem accepting LSE for you).

I get EII on tests recently. I'd say that's not too bad since it got that I'm Fi ego, and leaning delta.

Overall i think tests can give you some guidance, like a starting point.

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You know, for an LSE getting LSI on tests is not that bad.

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Good tests may to have accuracy ~30 % or higher. So they are useful, as it's far from 1/16. But to use only them is risky. 3/4 correct dichotomies they'd show in >40 %.

> Maybe it just somehow assumed introversion and that might have something to do with your subtype (could you be Si subtype?)

My surface behavior _changed_ some closer to introversion since teenager years by non-types reasons. I do not support subtypes. The degree of functions balance may differ in different people. I may to have a little better N, for example, than average LSE - as I train Ne for years by typing and had some Ni practice earlier. If I'd communicated more with base Fi types - my F would develop higher than average for this type.

> I get EII on tests recently. I'd say that's not too bad since it got that I'm Fi ego, and leaning delta.

I doubt in your Fi. I do not remember whether I saw your video. I'd could to say the impressions from you by it.

Bertrand isn't in it?

Award for least intuitive enneagram typing for me on spreadsheet goes to @silke for 9w1 sp/sx but if you would like to show how you arrived at that I would be interested to see it. You can put it in the enneagram typings thread if you wish since I have already had two others type me 9w1 too and most of my responses to it are probably covered but I will add the fine distinctions here so you can tell me how you arrived at this?

Highlight what you think fits OR use a description of your choice.You perception of my instincts would also be appreciated now dazzle me with your Ti baby!

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Self Preservation Nines

• Often preoccupied with physical comfort, maintaining routines and satisfying appetites.
• Exceptionally good receivers and appreciators; the best things in life are free
• Grateful for what they have and treasure it
• Can be reliable, dependable and consistent
• Specialize in a defense of small horizons
• Self Preservation Nines are especially prone to diminish their own expectations, to not quite hope for much out of life-a defense against disappointment
• Could be financially well-off but have a self-image of someone poor or destitute
• Distract themselves with pleasant domestic activities. Live conservatively
• Consume food and drink for anaesthesia. Tend towards addiction, especially to numbing substances, smoking pot, overeating to the point of stupor
• Can have a love of the minimal and enjoy the repetition of known routines
• Sleepy; may be slow moving, lack energy and be physically lazy
• The cliche of the couch potato goes with the low side of this subtype
• Can be extremely neglectful and messy
• A spaced out, unfocused mentality; lack of rigor
• No enthusiasm for anything; life is purgatorial, just killing time


Intimate Nines

• Loyal in love; patient and enduring; able to stay steady in long term relationships
• Realistically see their partners limits but accept them
• Good listeners; supportive non-judgmental friends
• Often focused on an unconscious ideal of romantic union
• Nines with this subtype are sometimes mistaken for Fours because of the way they can melancholically yearn for what they don’t have
• May have high expectations of romantic partners and be prone to jealousy
• Often this dynamic represents a yearning for a distant parent
• The ideal of romantic union blocks out the real relationship. It is a way of staying disengaged from your priorities, a distracting obsession
• Find their attractiveness and self-worth in how others see them
• May idealize people while deleting their flaws; could tolerate being mistreated or abused
• Can be fickle in love. After committing to a relationship they can grow critical of their partner and develop a wandering eye
• Indiscriminate; might have multiple serial relationships, searching from one person to the next, obsessing about whether their current partner is “the right one”
• Some Intimate Nines get involved with two partners and can’t decide between them, a pattern of triangulation
• Can be romantic on the one hand, callous on the other
• Sometimes feel driven by lust, especially when the have an Eight wing

Nine with a One Wing

• Nines with a One wing tend to have been “model children.” They instinctively worked to please their parents by being virtuous, orderly, and low maintenance
• Idealistic; a quiet moral authority plus good-hearted peacemaking tendencies
• Often have a sense of mission, public or private; work hard for the welfare of whomever they are committed to. Good with detail
• Unpretentious yet dignified; generally empathetic, have the “common touch;” An elegant simplicity of manner and speech
• Can be well-liked, modest, endearing; gentle yet firm. Some have a striking quality of grace and composure punctuated by bursts of spontaneity and sweetness
• Sincere, practice what they preach; effective, good natured and idealistic.
• Rule-bound, obedient/compliant; perfectionistic and self-critical
• Can be compulsively orderly, overly controlled, unemotional and disassociated
• Can act on weird principles that don’t make sense; A dubious, fractured morality
• May be visibly successful but don’t really feel connected to their achievements
• Passive tolerance of absurd or damaging situations; so normal they’re strange
• Exceptionally conservative in their habits of living and around making changes
• May go passively self-neglectful. Dutiful to what they shouldn’t be
• Minimize, tell themselves they had a great childhood, everything’s fine
• Placid numbness can creep over them. exceptionally out of touch with feelings. Intolerant of their own emotions; gradually deaden their souls


http://www.ninepointsmagazine.org/fi...nes-tomcondon/

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To quote my girl @fox (with her permission) who is gone but not forgotten. <3

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@Tallmo

Thank you for giving me the D! :hello: But what kind of D is it?

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To quote my girl fox (with her permission) who is gone but not forgotten.

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Any not secret info what was the explanation to remove all her messages?

Will @Bertrand and @golden get added?

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Will @Bertrand and @golden get added?

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Bertrand was on but asked to be removed. We are very sad.
I added golden.

Can I be typed and crucified by the masses too please?

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@Tallmo

Thank you for giving me the D! :hello: But what kind of D is it?

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Just a vague feeling that you could be D subtype. Someone suggested H earlier, but you don't seem that.

But it doesn't mean much, I could remove it. I also type Aster D, but I've seen her video and her Dness seemed clear to me.

Seeing her left brainy subtype sounds funny to me. Olimpia OTOH, there is no dispute.

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Just a vague feeling that you could be D subtype. Someone suggested H earlier, but you don't seem that.

But it doesn't mean much, I could remove it. I also type Aster D, but I've seen her video and her Dness seemed clear to me.

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No need to remove it. I was just confused because that's all that was there. I am sure you have posted this but what are the signs for DCNH for you? Like Troll gave his in another thread so I understood his method. A link to a post you have made will do. I just never saw anyone do it without a base type before.

add pls @FlutteringShyxx

And when is "TBA soon" gonna be announced?

*reminder to type Aramas in the spreadsheet*
^ shameless self promotion

add Saoirse pls

@Director Abbie you can add me