Can you explain to me why you're not LSI? You seem to spend a lot of time being the authoritative voice of SLI.
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@Scarper Why are you talking to me?
I at difference of you fit in descriptions, score my type in tests and relate irl with my quadra in my interpersonal relations. I'm a strong p type not a j as you. And I'm possibly better at managing information than you and others in here, just for the only reason that SLI is the master and have 4DTi and its easy for us to get how stuff works. Plus I dont harass ppl like you do, which is a very j shit thing to do. And I'm not authority about anything, just have a strong subtype and sharper mind than you. Sorry if my individuality offends you, butthay doesnt change my type.
And if you knew something about socionics you'd know LSIs value Fe so they prefer fitting with a consensus, which I dont do.
After this, if you continue talking to me I'm going to report you because this is harassment.
If you don't want to talk to me or read my posts put me on ignore. No need for these weird reactions.
Relax.
Anyway, I'm on my cell phone, maybe I'll respond (or not respond?) to you later. It's difficult to tell when you talk to me then tell me to ignore you :shrug: and stuff.
Gonna preempt any crossfire at me by saying I disagree that harassment is a J thing, disagree that Crystal is SLI, and disagree that asking a question is worthy of a report... but "Why are you talking to me?" was great.
@Shackleton, its harassment when you ask to someone not talk to you and they do it anyway. Then hes J type because that says his scores, and a bunch of j types I know do the same, and finally I dont think you have enough knowledge about socionics for what I've seen to even know the basic about my type, plus you dont know me and I'm not asking for assessments of others over my type. Anyway think what you please.
I didn't contest that it was inconsiderate for him to continue interaction after you told him not to, I said that it's not grounds for a report. I didn't contest that he was a j type, I contested that harassment is a j thing. And finally, I'm not interested in discussing your type. So we're mostly in agreement.
For what it's worth, one thing you both have in common is addressing shit I didn't actually say. :)
OK. I'll try to remember not to speak to Crystal. I'll retype as some J type. Can everyone relax now.
I'm quite happy to do this. Can you tell me which J type I am? I'd ask for reasons, it might help OP (let's keep it on track), but if you don't want to provide reasons, I'll change it anyway. I don't really care about type (or much stuff most people seem to care about, to expand somewhat.) Thanks.
Yeah it's confusing :) I think Jung psychology (and enneagram) is new age stuff. Well, Jung was quite occultic. I think socionics is like a belief system. As a Christian, I recognise it as a god (not God). Enneagram is more obvious as a new age system.
I kind of hang about for one or two other reasons which aren't quite socionics related. But, this aside, socionics is all very generic.
And that aside too, I enjoyed reading Rick De Long, a former big player in socionics, I think he studied with DarkAngelFireWolf69, typed as IEE, 'renounced' socionics.
Hopefully that answers your understandable question.
Socionics was created so that people like us could get our panties in a twist over what labels we put on others online. This has to be it.
Yeah, I think so too. The problem imo is when the nice mental game becomes a prison :) I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but it occurred to me, the confusion of socionics is very much like the confusion of all new age, esoteric stuff, but God's plan of salvation is simple, and the scripture came to mind, 'For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace,' 1 Corinthians 14:33a. Confusion lets you know that something else has been involved in it, esp spiritual confusion (as socionics, enneagram is all new age stuff, 'spiritual'.)
Hey, I wanted to say, that yeah I agree with the idea that people are different, I noticed you mentioning this in your other post. For myself, I find experiences in life help me learn about those differences and learn about myself too. It's all a learning curve :)
Anyway, nice to talk to you Reyne, hope you're having a good day.
I never tested as J type, you know my scores as I've shown you them.
Point 1. You communicated with me by PM and I told you I didn't want to talk to you anymore. You continued to talk to me on the forum before finally having some emotional reaction, now you accuse me of stuff which isn't true.
Point 2. As for J type being harassment, then maybe you can explain why bertrand continually quotes me even although I told him I don't want to talk to him and I have him on ignore, considering you type him as 'P'.
I do think you're SLI, but I don't want to talk to you in a personal situation. You can talk to me on the forums if you want. I'm not putting you on ignore, it's up to you whether you respond to my posts or not.
This is the sort of reason why I didn't want to talk to you, and I told you so, cocky and arrogant :) But, it's primarily because I don't think you're saved: you say you are a Christian but then you say it's faith plus works, but the Bible says it's faith only. I don't want close fellowship with someone preaching a different Gospel, because it's not Biblical. So now you know, if you didn't then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crystal
I don't know if you have a sharper mind than mine, if you do, great. It might be a matter of priorities though. I know enough about socionics to type better than you in some instances (for instance your ludicrous typing of number9large as LSI when he's obviously SEE), but I think i'm smarter than you in the sense to know not to let my mind dwell to a large degree on topics like socionics. I keep my head free for other stuff.
Now, if you don't want to talk to me don't quote me. Don't think you can quote me then claim a response is 'harrassment'. Or alternatively ignore me, or talk to me civilly on the forum. Just please don't try to claim things that don't exist, and making stuff up, to seemingly hope you can get someone banned because they don't want a personal interaction with you, because ironically - that's harrassment :) (and ironically, a rather Se and Fe approach to things, or perhaps it's fairer to say it's just a poor character.)
Anyway, as shown, all this 'J' type stuff is silly, I don't care what you type me, but I think it's interesting that you typed me as SLI all along until you have this emotional reaction based on my rejection of you, it casts into doubt anything you say about me, but sure, type away, I don't mind.
it can be considered harassment by a person and nevertheless be justified because, for example, they're spreading misinformation or otherwise being crazy. saying "don't talk to me" isn't license to never have your zany shit criticized when you post it all over a public forum
anyway, the situations are two different things
yes but there's a difference in how trivial it is, if someone asks you not to talk to them and you continue to do so with nothing really at stake that is unjustified
I personally think you're sufficiently aggressive that talking back is justified, because otherwise you just essentially bully, whereas in your case you really are harassing crystal for no good reason
in other words, you abuse the term and then try to hold her to your own abusive notions of how things ought to play out as if you get to decide, when really you're just acting in bad taste under the circumstances
you're harassing her but I'm not "harassing" you, you're essentially the cause of all this bad blood both ways (not that I have bad blood, I find your case illustrative, but on the surface you're complaining about a problem so lets pretend there's a problem)
its these unilateral attempts to control the interpretation and impose them on people that comes off as more J type (that Crystal mentions), what I call bullying above
Rubbish. I'm happy out of decency to refrain from certain topics, like sex etc, but asking someone why they're SLI is not harassment.
This is unlike you who relentlessly harassed reverie not just about her type, but continually about her husband and children. And you've harassed Aylen, and I gather a history of harassing other members too. Yet you're still here, so secure your nonsense :) You're back on ignore.
this is that J shit Crystal's talking about, both of those cases invited discussion. your unilateral reservation of the the right to color them how you see fit and the rigidity (everyone makes judgements, but its the character of how they go about doing so that, as a matter of personality, speaks to Jness) with which you do so points to J type. to try and rewrite me as "harassing" those two under the present context, (them asking me to leave them alone, which never happened) is an inaccurate comparison and yet here you are, trying to make it with a straight face. I would argue your selective perception on the matter also points to Ni because that kind of lazer focus on a narrative is always a kind of "gamble" to see if it catches on especially when combined with Fe. right now you're acting more EIE than anything, and to be clear I'm not saying you are one, but rather that your actions comport with how EIE stereotypically behaves. it is no surprise to me then that Crystal picks up on this
Considering one of them left the forum because you would not leave them alone shows that it was not invited. None of your accusations are true and even if they were it's a ridiculous way to type anyone. This is why from the word go I've seen you as a laughing stock - both your socionics opinions and your opinions in general, which severely butt hurts you that I don't listen. How you talk - as I've said to you, as @Aylen has said to you and others shows you as a crazy deluded fool.
I'm pretty sure Aylen told you to fuck off or to leave her alone in a forum post among one of your exchanges, though I don't remember if you did fuck off or leave her alone after the fact.
lol I feel zero need to battle over this narrative so whatever