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You're questioning your type because you doubt it or because other people have expressed expressed or hinted at some other opinion? Supposing someone on line told you you were.. I dunno, typically a crap boyfriend, or you are a habitual liar.
You'd probably dismiss that opinion just because it's 'guys on the internet'. I don't think socionics is real - yes haha why am I here, but, if I was going to decide on something, then I'd decide on my own - esp about something subjective like socionics: there's no experts.
Anyway, the theory would suggest P types are more likely to doubt their type than J, because with rational, you have to decide to take action. With P, the judgements creative, you have a base of information from the world.
I know very little about you and your type, so I'm just asking a question related to the theory: are you really sure to a Fe PoLR? Explain why.
Socio type describes vague generalisations, it's not the fault of you or anyone it's the fault of socionics, you're never going to be sure. By all means ask and answer questions, maybe it will help.
Personally, I'd just go with what the gf says, if it keeps her happy haha
I went through your typing thread again, I still agree on SLI.
However, there are a few traits that still points at Se PoLR (your examples of the parking/roll call thing are very spot-on).
Besides this, I can relate to the example for Fe PoLR (not being able to merge with people at the table). My Fe is turned off most of the time, I need to find the right people/places/atmosphere to turn it on. Once I'm on Fe-mode though, no one can stop me. :hyper:
I think it's just how the Suggestive works, especially in the Inert subtype, where it's weakened.
Just curious, have you taken the SOLTI-160, the BOLTI-584 or any other test? If so, can you post your results?
So you are alert all the time? Does it make you paranoid?
It is so weird to me! I suppose that ignoring makes you alert. Like I'm very alert about time flow (where's the watch! :shifty:) while being too lazy to be efficient with it but still good enough to put the time management FULL ON if necessary.
Honestly, I'd expect LSI to manifest this bit differently like that type could think about power schemes.
Obvious EII if you ask me. Or eventually a very very Fi ESI...
Alright, this is not helping us... :P
Ne as your strongest function, but in SLI/LSI is one-dimensional... At least it confirms that Fe is your weakest point (either valued or not). I think it's better not to take tests too seriously, after all. There are a lot of factors which can influence the results.
At this point, you need to know how you feel about each Information Element. If you have time, write about every IE (if you think you're good/bad at it, if you like to use it, if you feel good when others are using it and things like that). Examples like the previous ones are welcomed. :D
I knew it was just matter of time for a LIE to come and say ESI.:lol:
DarkAngelFireWolf69 model G descriptions for LSI and SLI.
https://translate.google.fi/translat...%2F%3Fid%3D134
https://translate.google.fi/translat...%2F%3Fid%3D142
Which one is the closest or are they both flawed?
what kind of criticism do you receive the most? what kind of criticism bothers you the most? describe your room/the place you live
You don't like how you was typed before. But still prefer to don't give normal typing material, which includes a video. You are funny.
You need video to be correctly identified with higher chance. To use the video can not only me.
> You're just like all the other people here.
I'm far more experienced in types and typing by nonverbal than most here. I do this systematically since 2004 year and typed many people, - hundres of bloggers and actors for example - show me those "all" who did this. I have IR test based on my versions which gave reasonable results in many cases.
> I already made 3 or 4 videos, answering all the questionnaires.
Hence, you understand the importance and may do another one. I don't remember I saw them, also to watch another video may help to others and even watching same may help them to re-think about your type to closer to correct one.
> but you keep insisting
Because you are keeping to ask about your type with the lack of needed data.
> I suggest you to eat some phosphorus rich food
I suggest you to be reasonable and give adequate typing material in case you want the correct type.
You remind me mindless IEI. If you need to eat something to become more reasonable - do it. lol
@Reyne: Your relationship with Si is definitely not "strong" enough to be your Leading function. I'm leaning toward Si Role actually, but Si HA would fit even better (if only you were a Rational type), because you like when other people provide you Si since you're not able to do it yourself. My impression is that you feel more comfortable with using Ni than Si. Talking about the Fe/Fi axis, you perfectly fit the xLI, with Fe PoLR and Fi HA (very good example there). Your Te seems quite strong, meaning xLI-Te. From your statements, the only unclear point is the second dichotomy. For what it's worth, I get N > S, so I recommend you to look into ILI-Te and SLI-Te and choose your best fit. ;)
His Te in ego is also doubtful. He thinks personal wishes (where he writes about recalling) are more meaningful than objective needs (Te). He can't see the difference between me and others in skills, though my signature would be enough to notice it (Te again). Does not understand that people may change opinions even with same data after time. It's not what Te types do - we give info as max as we can, overload even by redundant factual data "just for some case". He protects by Te - what is either superego and the wish to look smarter in arguing or mb Te is not valued to operate better.
The funny dude asks for help, but rejects to give good info for this whithout objective reasons.
Haha, looking at things from a personal perspective is something everyone does, Sol does this too, the personal perspective of his typing skills from a subjective generalized system, socionics.
I didn't see your Si as being bad at Si. You're persisting till you have to go to the doctors and such. Remember that Si in SLI creates stubbornness. They're described as stubborn, obstinate for reasons. Most of your Se examples could also be SLI related. It's in the type descriptions that SLIs help those in need. At school I used to get into a lot of fights for the weak who were picked on by the bullies. I was confident in my physical prowess and I'd go to their aid.
Se is force, in that it looks to expand and influence. Most of my willpower does not come from wanting to force others, but to prevent others from forcing me. The descriptions speak about how SLIs care more for their convictions than common accepted ones. Seems you fall into this category. But all aside, I think socionics is bogus: it sounds interesting without providing real helps. I said I wouldn't type you, I won't, but I see little to disagree with SLI.
@User Name Just wanted to clarify that Si leads doesnt mean healthy habits. I smoked for 10 years, used to sleep late often (like really late even at 5 o clock, it didnt affect me), and right now I eat whatever I find because I'm kinda lazy and I dont like to waste time doing food when its not necessary (when its necesary I do it).
Si is not synonym of health, Si is Sensor of sensations literally (not peace, healthiness, comfort etc, like some may think in here, even when it can appear or be related at some point), being aware of the sensations you experience from your body and your 5 physical senses is the base. For example, I immediately know when I'm tired, when I'm uncomfortable, etc, which translate in being very selective in my activities. I've had cavities in two molars since at least 2 years, I'vent done anything about it yet, because it doesnt hurt me. Then, SLIs take action or fix problems when they hear a genuine need, which is related to IEEs or other weak Si types sometimes, (or pain or other important needs reflected physically). Thats more or less the focus of Si.
It is especially manifest when love exist in a relation Fi HA.
Or when a need appears.
@Reyne, yes they do.
It tends to help with it. If Si feels bad from something - he'll avoid that.
> I smoked for 10 years
it has no clear negative influence on health (it may take tens of years to notice), but is pleasant. also there are different quantity of cigaretes people get per day
> used to sleep late often (like really late even at 5 o clock, it didnt affect me)
P types are crazy
> and right now I eat whatever I find because I'm kinda lazy and I dont like to waste time doing food when its not necessary
But that food should not be too bad like cheap fastfood and nothing more. In case your type is SLI indeed (what I doubt still).
> Si is not synonym of health
It is about sensory feelings, and people prefer good ones certainly. Health is linked with this to some degree.
> Si is Sensor of sensations literally (not peace, healthiness, comfort etc
seek of comfort relates good to ego Si
Obviously. I didn't mean we arent, but ppl define Si=comfort or Si=health when its not the proper definition or way to evaluate Si, but if s/he is interested and aware of his own sensations which includes physical and psychological comfort, but its not limited to that.
Its the same like those who think Fi=moral, when Fi its properly ethics of relations (especially involving how they personally feel about someone and how they come to the person), so poor, twisted or incomplete definitions leads to wrong assestments.
For more input, there are weak Si types who can be extremelly concerned or paranoid about health (hypochondria) especifically because they are weak Si and cant make a proper evaluation about their own internal sensations.
people _link_ with this behavior and it's correctly
> Its the same like those who think Fi=moral
And this is correctly too. Fi ego correlates good with moral, because compassion (relates to Fi) makes them do of more what other people like, while people like when other behave "good" with them. Also moral norms are about what most people like.
> when Fi its properly ethics of relations
moral is norms of relations
> poor, twisted or incomplete definitions leads to wrong assestments
definitions and behavioral stereotypes are good, what I've explained
@Sol: I'm interested in your typing method. You are an expert (or at least you know Socionics far better than I do) and I'm curious about what information you consider important to type people. Could you please explain it? Thank you.
Christ is a figure of psychological unification not some guy with a rulebook he handed your religious leader of choice with which to beat you over the head with, and maybe if you do well enough you get to become a capo and can impose beatings on others
Content can be useful. For example when people may answer questionnaires. It can be interesting to see how people behave during answering and answers themselves are more natural due to lesser possibility to fix and prepare.
But _for me_ it's far secondary than nonverbal in videos. Especially when foreign language is used. Also the theme is lesser important when there is a questionnaire made already.
HOWmany type me threads do u need?!
You sound much more like ILE Ne type. You said plenty a lot of about things which would make your Ne primary. You said your logic offends people so maybe you are not IEE but I would not rule that out.
You doesn't sound like LII at all, really far from that.
The thing you are behaving like introverted person doesn't need you to make you introverted in socionics. Anyway, if you had so much Ti, you would conclude your type long time ago and not jump from one type to another. That'w why I think you may be also IEE. IEEs sometimes are mean, maybe that's why you are offending sometimes.
Have you met any LIIs in your life? Have you worked with them?
OK we can try introversion / extroversion test:
Could you write several sentences expressing associations with such words as "city", "house", "lake".
Like city: (what do you think)?
An Extravert will try to make objective characteristics: city – straight streets, multistoried houses, gardens…
An Introvert will make remarks such as "I don't like big cities because there is noise and dirt" – in other words, he will instead formulate his attitude.
City
1. Extrovert
2. Introvert
3. Extrovert
4. Introvert
5. Extrovert
6. Extrovert
7. Introvert
Extrovert: 4
Introvert: 3
House
1. Introvert
2. Extrovert
3. Extrovert
4. Introvert
5. Extrovert
6. Introvert
7. Extrovert
Extrovert: 4
Introvert: 3
Lake
1. Introvert
2. Introvert
3. Extrovert
4. Introvert
5. Extrovert
6. Extrovert
7. Extrovert
Extrovert: 4
Introvert: 3
Summary:
Extrovert: 12
Introvert: 9
I would say it's inconclusive because you provided plenty of both introversion and extroversion samples. But that's how it is, most people score half / half on I / E.
Can you provide shot of your eyes only, but the whole face would be better. You can also upload it for the moment and delete it later.
I can recognize some shapes of some types, for example, ILE Ne type has ideally symmetrical eyes (top - bottom).
I think it's clear that you have either Ne or Ni, that's no questions asked. It seems more likely Ne, but what you have described is also true for many Ni types.
But are you sure you are Ti or Te type and Not Fe or Fi one? How was it in school, have you been excelling more in Math, Physics, Chemistry than in Humanities? Are you into technology? What kind of interests you have? What kind of movies you like?
My first impression is ILE or SLE, because these two can be sometimes similar (their eyes). Since you have expressed strongly about Ne, then I think ILE and that's my final decision.
The thing that you are behaving introverted doesnt mean you have to be introverted in socionics. It may predict intro/extroversion, but sometimes it may not. That's why someone invented subtypes. You can be ILE Ti subtype and therefore introverted, and maybe that's what is confusing you. And maybe that's why you were thinking you were LII with primary Ti, but you doesn't seem like LII to me.
Why do you type him as ILE? He makes a clear introverted impression, I think, at least from his writing...Do you have a short video Reyne?
Anyway from this thread LII makes sense.