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videos: https://vimeo.com/232159059
original questionnaire: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...63#post1216463
TERRIBLY SORRY FOR HORRIBLE QUALITY
I hope you will be able to grasp anything from the video despite that! :love:
It was stressful for me to speak in front of camera - additional info.
Reading poetry: more chilled video https://vimeo.com/232161888
Update: my friend watched this and told me I'm rarely that serious irl and the fact I didn't laugh there even once was surprising. I will add a video where I read a poem for you to asses my fi/fe valuing as soon as vimeo allows me to.
dat eyebrow raise at the beginning tho :hello:Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
probably the last expressive mimicry done in this video :thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Number 9 large
@hullothere
I won't tell you anything new about your type, because:
- Your friend says that you acted very differently in the video compared to real life;
- You stated that you were not at ease in front of the camera;
- I'm not good at (and I don't believe in) Visual Identification.
I think it's stupid to type you if that wasn't the real you. That's why I believe more in questionnaires. For me you're still an EII (and you're very cute too). :D
ISTJ / LSI
I'm offering to do IR test.
@Sol: How can you consider yourself "competent" if when typing people you just say their type. If you're really better than us, please show the reasons why you type her as LSI.
It's easy padavan, - I just say correct types.Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
I hope hullothere will find time to do IR checking to confirm my version and to help padavans to belive in Socionics Force.
Laughable. As expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
He wants to establish himself as typing authority to whom people go to find their types, if he tells you how he types then it is like sharing his authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
so if you want answers from him you should try showering him with praise to make him feel good about himself then ask out of curiosity not for a proof
I think that my Se PoLR won't do that. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Simo
Thank you :oops: Apart from being unexpectedly serious, the video (as my friend told me) looked natural (except maybe for the beginning). That's probably what you get in the first encounter with me, because I'm very guarded with these types of situations, that's also how I would be like on the visit with some professional socionics typologist in the far Russia, so you can feel like it was a serious typing session XD I added a second video where the task was completely less obliging and I took it lightly. I also believe more in questionnaires, video was meant to be of additional value :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
Hmm... I don't think I'm a ti leading, despite having it developed quite fairly (that's why I ruled out LII in my quest for typing in the first place). Also, life-wise, someone with as developed se as LSI has wouldn't encounter problems in life like mine (results of really low activity and assertiveness in action). The highest place for se for me is in EIE or IEE/ LIE, ILE, because having a developed se is not a given for then, especially for some subtypes. But you probably saw some information elements (or prove me wrong here; I'm just guessing), so I'll add your vote for a "Beta team" :biggrin: I'll surely and eagerly be your guinea pig tho in IR, I'm a bit curious about such intuitive ways of typing (did a test with pictures once - this was such a mistake - but I think, if it was done properly, then... :biggrin:), and need all sorts of information here :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
please stop quarreling there, my feels get hurt, then you'll be guilty of killing an nf with hate, that's like roasting a cute bunny for breakfast, morally unacceptable :justwait::halo:
My IR test may help to understand my opinion. If you'll follow recomendations and will get reasonable IR fit to my version - this will proove it. 7 hours and you'll get the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
To interpret the known for typing is not so easy. "in sum" and in "more important" you may be closer to a type, while to have secondary variations. So don't hurry to decide about your traits categorically befor watching irl how people of different types behave and analysing how your perception of them fits to IR theory.
It's not rare when people changed opinion about own type after time. Several times and strongly, sometimes. There they changed interpretation of their self.
> But you probably saw some information elements (or prove me wrong here; I'm just guessing)
I saw common ISTJ nonverbal
> I'm a bit curious about such intuitive ways of typing
I made experiment with bloggers typing by their random clips (~10 typers, 16 bloggers). People have gotten average typing match up to 20%, what's rather common for today methods, including irl interview. So the nonverbal behavior for typing seems to be objectively acceptable, not just in my subjective perception.
My impression was I > E, that's all I know!
ok so I'll head to read about ir and will do your test soon (though these 7 hours will probably take a while) and read more about LSIs. I'll let you know about my IR testing result as soon as I have done it :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
every "E" suggestion there makes me surprised, but then I understand that socionics introversion =/= real-life"big five" introversion. Still: I'm rather an "I" :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chae
When you'll find the time, may write 16 type sequence in the IR test theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
To do the test you don't need to know the theory, but it will not hinder. IR is the most interesting thing in Socionics - if you'll notice them then your world will never be the same.
Did you just speak russian on your video?
Nooo... It's Polish. Foreigners mistake slavic languages quite often :lol: :doh: I can easily fake Russian accent and understand by ear a bit, but these are completely different languages.Quote:
Originally Posted by idontgiveaf
(out of interest) are non-heteronormative people also obliged to watch videos of opposite sex? (not quite fully out of interest) are bisexuals obliged to watch all of them? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Sol
I rewatched my own video, and got a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoSrkbFnFw vibe. What type is she in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
didnt get the same vibe. the girl with the pink hair seems EIE to me. you vibe more introvertQuote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
edit; i actually get ILI vibe from you
some extraverted T typeQuote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
Should be watched examples of a sex which is most sexually interesting, people of which in past affected the most strong sexual passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
I just watched a couple of minutes of your video, and my immediate impression was LSE. You look a lot like my LSE sister. (Two of our grandparents were from Prague, but the resemblance is more than just prominent cheekbones.)
For sure I agree with @Sol, you are an extroverted thinking type; Te, not Ti, and almost certainly Delta. Your eyes shout "My thinking is a process - I evaluate the best way to get from here to there". You don't seem to have the slickness of the LIE, so I'm saying LSE.
For what it's worth, you are more feminine than my sister, so you could be a type other than LSE. Possibly. I haven't read your questionnaire responses.
If you think of yourself as a timid person, well, my sister does, too, even though she is a powerhouse. I think being a female LSE is as hard as being a male IEI. Society does not expect this behavior from someone of your gender, so you either turn yourself down to a lower assertiveness level or over-compensate. My mother, who is also LSE, became a school teacher, even though she wanted to become an engineer. Engineering was not open to her at the time, and she resented this her whole life.
Heck, I'll just say you seem LSE to me.
One cautionary note. I am not a great typer, and I'm wrong at least half the time.
I'll say about Sol's opinion too: he thinks her LSI. While as extraverted - the girl on that clip only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Strange
> Heck, I'll just say you seem LSE to me.
We are close, at least. And with Sol, certainly.
Occuring pattern: got XNFX responses on the questionnaire, got their duals from the video. (exceptions: IEI, ILI, ILE). Only "intuitive" responses in the questionnaire, only "Logic" responses here. Now I should make up my mind about the "right" sort of typing, because the answers seem to be all over without coming closer to conclusion :lol:
in the end you should just decide for urselfQuote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
Wait a sec, this isn't in English. :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
It would be far more helpful to do one in English, even if you aren't totally comfortable with speaking.
I only followed Sol's instructions here. I would not at all feel comfprtable speaking English, and I thinkthat was the point. Heck, I am not even comfortable speaking in my native language. If you think so because my mimics wpuld a reaction to my words, I can assure ypu that I wouldnt be able tp express even 1/4 of my thoughts verbally, thus no reaction would follow it. But I might give it a try (though i cant guarantee if I will be able to do so), what should I say to the camera? what should i talk about?Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
yeah but you not being comfortable can say something about your type aswelQuote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
hahah, OK, I'll tryQuote:
Originally Posted by Number 9 large
Some IxxJ type
@hullothere: According to this type thread you could be an ST and an NF at the same time... :lol:
There's only one conclusion: video typing = not reliable. Especially if we can't understand what you say in the video.
My advice is, focus on the questionnaire thread, where Model A is applied and decision are made according to logic and not just by vibes. This is my opinion, its up to you now. :D
Well, surprisingly, I came closer to "EII" conclusion because of this strong ST detached vibe. I also started this IR test and if I am right about first type presented there then I actually might be an EII, so it's not that off :lol:
After reading your questionnaire and comparing it with video, I'd say EII-Ne is most likely, although I see where logical impressions are coming from - maybe if you're Fi dom you're seeming more logical.
Thank you :yup: That part with Fi - that's what I thought tooQuote:
Originally Posted by darya
Atleast I'm still sane.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
I thought i was going insane i cannot understand anything you're saying
If you want, today I can analyze properly your questionnaire to find your true type. This days I've been on my phone, so it was almost impossible to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
Use TapatalkQuote:
Originally Posted by User Name
sorry I made you doubt your Russian skills XDQuote:
Originally Posted by idontgiveaf
Laptop is just another world.Quote:
Originally Posted by idontgiveaf
I would be more than grateful, you've already made a fair point with fe opposingQuote:
Originally Posted by User Name
You can use my questionnaire. And I do think it would still be helpful. There is only so much information that can be gleaned from someone's mannerisms, especially when they're alone talking to a computer screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
I wondered if doing the same questionnaire again would give accurate answers. But, again, it is about reactions, right? So I'll try if I feel I am able to do this, psychically.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
She looks damn EII to me... I thought SEI too for a sec because of her hairdo but then I had pink and all kind of hairdos too as a teen :) Her eyes move too much to be S, she seems more a F than a T and I think she looks more EII than the girls from Sol's test who were just whispering with their boobs peaking out..Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
You look adorable anyway!
I read somewhere that eyes movement is correlated to Ne. It makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by hybris theory
Thank you! :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by hybris theory
That's only a practical, comfortable Si hairband of mine. Nothing fancy really.
If breast size is type related, then I'm a confirmed EII :lol:
I watched examples on this forum of SLI-Ti and EII-Ne (didnt want to spoil myself fun of doing Sols test) and they are veeery similar in the expression. Smol introverted rationals with bits of intuitive otherworldliness. I can see elements of both Mia Wasikowska and Jane Birkin behaviour in myself.
oh sorry you meant the pink-haired girl... That is not me, hahah. And I can assure you, as I can understand what she is saying,she is definitely not fi leading. talking about homicides as some fun fact, horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by hybris theory
See how you're being Fi Leading? You've just judged that girl about something that it's not right according to your values. A stupid example, yet a simple proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
oh.. :oops:
Sure. With questionnaire you said anything is needed for those who read them. Not many ones who may read and write in English forum can talk good in English (I can't as had no practice and need translators near hand), so it's better to use native language. People should behave naturally in their nonverbality on video.Quote:
Originally Posted by hullothere
> Heck, I am not even comfortable speaking in my native language.
I'm such at writing on Russian - the ones who developed its current rules were schizophrenics or drunk. The most hard discipline in schools and exams to university, while they put this "useful" exam on most good specialities. In some years of school I got "excellent" year mark on anything besides "Russian".
> I can easily fake Russian accent and understand by ear a bit, but these are completely different languages.
Not completely as there are lot of common or close words, and some grammatical rules. Like one of Slavic - our languages have divided 1000-1500 years ago. Polish was still rather similar ~500 years ago. Even some baltic languages which have devided from Slavic ones ~1000 years earlier than Slavic ones devided, keep common words which look archaic but can be understood still.
Sounds horrible to learn in Russia. Here we have Polish final exam, but it rarely does any difference anywhere (and there aren't any gramatical nuanses, but there are rather problems with the "best" and demanded, one-sided and very shallow interpretations of literature. So those who write these exams well are often shallow and crammers :lol:). The difference I meant: Polish-Slovakian vs Polish-Russian, now you deflated ego of me learning Russian :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol