And I don't use +- theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
You seem to type everyone Fi base today :p
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And I don't use +- theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
You seem to type everyone Fi base today :p
Very badly translated socionics material for an easy and relatable example - making sense of the twisted up sentences. Explaining regular socionics stuff too, the differences between certain elements or consolidating contradictory descriptions by pointing out the parts that are important, and which parts can be ignored. Really anything that needs to be sorted out. Simpler things too such as helping arrange a class schedule, or explaining graphs and math problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
Hey squark, I'm out of here man.
Kinda tired of having Myst all on my nuts. I know you know what I mean.
Anyways, gave my thoughts. Consider them. Don't consider them. Just my opinion.
So you still had two options, chose one, chose wrong, and then said you had no idea which type I could mean? It would still be a two option multiple choice answer and one you already knew was wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
OK, thanks for the examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
I'll repeat it once more: EII differs from LSI not only in terms of Base/Role function being switched...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
And still only two types can have base and role switched compared to LSI and you guessed wrong and couldn't figure out there was only one other possible solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
You know, your fascination with trying to beat guys is really freaking creepy. Your parents should have had a son.
Which part of "You'll have to speak in clear terms or I'm not interested. Also I can't be bothered with reading back all the other posts of yours to try and guess at your random Ne crap" was unclear to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
Clearly you weren't wording your original line in a precise way so I was not interested in it further until you would do so. End of story.
You are sooooooooooooooo creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
Good because I'm not even trying to be.
Good night troll.
Goodnight person desperately obsessed with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
@squark
I responded to a post of yours in another thread and it reminded me of your typing - essentially my conclusion was that your understanding of Ti and Te (and Se as creative function) fits MBTI better instead of Socionics. So yeah, you could totally be Ti-dom in MBTI (ISTP). I have no problem with that take.
Not that I really decided whether you are ESI or SLI though still leaning towards the latter. A lot of ISTPs "translate into" SLI in Socionics anyway. I still don't have time to think about your typing tho' so this is all I wanted to add about that.
Oh and about an earlier post of yours. Where you thought issues of comprehension is a sore spot - no, your nitpickiness about small details not affecting actual deeper understanding is hardly that. The sore spot is when I see bullshit stated about me, no matter who does that, this isn't even personally about you, squark. The bs can be anything, not specifically your claims, as long as it's not matching reality it's gonna set me off. So that's what you were seeing...
The other thing that pisses me off very predictably is when someone tries to claim bs in a response instead of using logical reasoning like you did in that same post of yours. But I decided to let you be with regard to that, I figured you just couldn't reason anyway and so that was your defense tactics instead and I was tired of too much bs so I decided to just not care at that point even though I did find it very dishonest.
But the point is, where you thought I wasn't accepting the olive branch, it was because of my tone because I was pissed off about that. I accept the olive branch only if it doesn't come with bs judgments about my person in that very same post, lol, you can't expect anyone to accept it along with such bs.
But again, your exercising patience or discipline in withholding such is appreciated. As I already said. I have always done and still do the same. So in terms of that, accepted, but only under those terms. Thanks.
Well, end of story about the topic. Just wanted full closure.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time reading MBTI and learn socionics if you're interested in typing in socionics. It would help you be less confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
Damnit, can you please think of something even more stupid than that? I never said I read MBTI more than Socionics. The absurdity of your defense tactics just made me laugh out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
But also facepalming... :doh:
I think we'd better not enter into any kind of debate AT ALL in future if you are unable to exercise that patience and refrain from personal remarks used in this dishonest way. Before I do lose all the remaining respect of you.
Myst, you got some weird stuff goin on upstairs.
Could you please move the post you referenced from that other thread over here. Thanks. Any discussion at all on my type or your thoughts about me needs to go here. Keep it off of the rest of the forum please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
No, because that post was not about your type, it was about theory only. The part that's about your type I put in this thread (about the MBTI Ti fitting you).Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
Bullshit. It was entirely about me, and quoting me. Either think of something original to say yourself, or don't say anything at all, but this going around quoting me and trying to discredit every post I make is extremely annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
And what's this about backing off when people ask you to? Have you done that? Have you kept your opinions about me and my type here in this thread, as asked? No, indeed you haven't.
You need to also remove every single quote of mine from your post, and see what you have left. It wasn't just about theory and you know it.
If after a decade of studying Socionics you are still missing the things I pointed out then I don't think I'm the confused one here.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
Nice cop-out for not responding with any sensible reasoning to my points. The crap isn't my post, it's yours and clearly it caused confusion for some people due to which this thread was even created in the first place....
I will however respect your request on not quoting you in threads outside your type thread. I may comment on things but without quoting you or referring to you in any way. Bye.
If you respect that request, you'll remove everything you quoted of mine from that post, and every response you made directly to my post, and you'll put me on ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
You have a weird way of interpreting things.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
I was talking about theory and correcting you in terms of that, if you take that personally, that's not my problem.
And, I did not mention your typing in that thread, that is something you are imagining, having lost objectivity clearly.
What's left is explanations of Ti, Te and Se creative working with Ti lead, and corrections where you were stating incorrect things about these parts of the theory. So it was about theory correcting posts, which I wanted to post before but had no time for it earlier because of all the bs drama going on. Your taking it personally doesn't change these facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
If you are unable to not take it personally if someone disagrees with you on impersonal theory then it's indeed a good idea for us to not engage in discussion.
The one way you could possibly connect it to your type is if you genuinely think you do not work the way I fleshed out about LSI'S TiSe. But I never stated that in that thread, I ony stated anything about your typing here in this one. The possibility would remain that you do work like LSI's TiSe and you just didn't conceptualize it right, though I highly doubt this possibility, instead finding SLI/ESI more likely because Ti ego should see Ti better. Again, I did not state this in the other thread, only here.
No, you can't require me to put you on ignore. I prefer being able to follow threads with all posts visible (I don't put even Jeremy on ignore). What I can do that does respect the request for not interacting is what I said above about how I'm not going to quote or refer to you in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
And no, why should I remove quotes on theory discussion? You've lost objectivity if you think they are about you or your type personally. ANy such conclusions I would not draw in this thread or any thread outside your type thread. I understand if the criticism of your understanding was harsh sounding, though.
Reply to this only in your type thread. And I have to go now for a bit.
Because I asked you not to quote me, and to keep all your interactions with me to the thread I started for that purpose, so that it'd stay out of the rest of the forum. Everything in that post is directly responding to me and quoting me, so it belongs in that other thread. Please move it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myst
The entire post is quoting and responding to me, which I asked you to keep to this thread. Anything you want to say to me can be done here. Keep it off of the rest of the forum.
You asked people incl. me to keep the topic of your type to this thread, which is just fine and I'm complying with that request. What is hard to understand about how that post was not about your type?Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
I even explained above how it's not. That is, I'd be actually fine typing you as LSI if I saw how you are Ti in Ego, regardless of your lack of understanding about the theory regarding that.
You then made the additional request on not quoting you at all in any thread outside this one, and I will keep to that for the posts being made by me after you made the request.
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Originally Posted by squark
I'm not responding in the other thread or anywhere else anymore by directly talking to you by quoting you, if I make comments it will be general without addressing you in any way whatsoever so you don't have to read any of it, and when I'm back at home in the evening my timezone, I'll move the parts that I wrote as addressed to you after we entered an argument after my post on Ti/Se but not that post itself since that post directly pertains to that thread's topic and not to your type and wrote it before your request for my future posts.
double
double, wtf is up with this phone
I removed my threads to you in that topic yesterday. You can remove yours. I really do not appreciate this, and yeah, this is most definitely harassment. You cannot claim in any way whatsoever that this is "unintentional." That post ITSELF was LONG after this argument started and IT QUOTES ME and THE ENTIRE THING IS ADDRESSED TO MEQuote:
Originally Posted by Myst
So Move It.
Deduction isn't her strong suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
I think you need to calm down a little bit squark, and learn that the world doesn't revolve around you. You said you started this thread so as not to litter other peoples' threads with posts related to you and your type (supposed to benefit them / for order's sake), but clearly this is something about preserving your reputation or impression on the forum (supposed to benefit you). If a forum member wants to and has an opinion to comment on in a thread in an impersonal way, they have a right to do so. The most that can be asked for is for them to remove your name maybe, or for you to delete your original posts themselves outright.
Calling people bullies and then haranguing them to submit to your will makes you look hypocritical. Saying that you want to be more patient and make peace, and then ordering people around and telling them what to do and using caps lock will not help you make friends, or even allow you to get what you want done more efficiently.
You are trying to run this thread like a dictator running a 3rd world country, which is funny in it's own right IMO especially since it plays to the LSI stereotypes really well too. But for a tenured forum member who is capable of making logically sound, reasonable, educational posts from time to time (even though the majority of them are self-serving adding towards the reputation of your self or own type), let me just say, it's a little bit strange.
Hey Squark. Ever argue with a deaf person?
Once. It mostly involved a lot of hand gestures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy8419
Hey squark, ever run an isolated totalitarian state online with two mentally retarded neckbeard guys as your minions?
They catch words here and there, but completely miss the big picture of the conversation.It's an appropriate analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
Your insults are lame lolQuote:
Originally Posted by niffer
Yeah I guess they're not very imaginative since they're the truth already.