Feminism Test

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This free feminism test will allow you to obtain your scores on five of the major positions in the gender equality debate found in Western democracies. Though both feminists and anti-feminists like to claim that the definition of feminism is straightforward, there is in fact considerable variety in how feminism is defined and serious disagreements, not just between feminists and anti-feminists, but also among the various positions within feminism itself.

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This test may spark some heated debate(s)...
Please try to keep it civil, everyone. ^^'

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I do not consider myself to be a feminist, so I was interested to see what my result would be...

And I can actually see how "Liberal feminism" (how it is described in this test) applies to me. It reminds me of the kind of feminism before the Third Wave. I don't think it is the kind of feminism one would think of when someone says the word "feminism". Nowadays, feminism is usually just being equated with Radical feminism; and I find that is in fact the kind of feminism we see the most of online and on demonstrations etc.

 

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Liberal Feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted in enlightenment principles. Its classical works were penned by thinkers such as Mary Wollstonecraft and John Stuart Mill. This type of feminism holds that men and women are each other’s equals and as such deserve equal rights. It is this type of feminism that people allude to when they say “feminism just means equal rights.” As opposed to other forms of feminism, Liberal Feminism is individualistic (rather than group-based): Men and women deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted to individuals, not genders or groups. Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes. For example, if a profession is dominated by only one gender, that does not necessarily mean that something is wrong: It could be the result of individuals making different decisions in life.

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Radical Feminism holds that men oppress women through internalized forms of dominance (i.e. patriarchy). Women must come together and end this oppression by rejecting traditional gender roles. Putting women in dresses, making them wear make-up and so on makes them sexual objects that perpetuate male dominance. Women must refuse to comply with the beauty standards that the patriarchy expects. Radical Feminists see a link between men’s objectification of women and sexual violence and abuse. Prostitution, pornography, and advertisements that sexualize women are therefore not decisions that can be left to individual choice. They must be resisted by women everywhere as forms of male oppression. As opposed to Liberal Feminism, which takes the individual as its focus, Radical Feminism holds that since men have oppressed women for so long, it may be necessary to discriminate against men in the process of revolutionizing society (for example by prioritizing women for high-end jobs or shutting men out of positions of power for a time).

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No... The third wave is liberal feminism and is most of the feminism you see online. Radical feminism is associated with the second wave and is criticized for excluding sex workers and transwomen, and for "judging girls who wear makeup" etc.

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I wouldn't call myself a feminist either, unless I was obliged to for some t-shirt wearing exercise.

Calling yourself a feminist just invites other people to project their idea of what a feminist is on you, which usually involves the internet produced image of a browbeaten man getting screamed at by a woman with a brightly colored buzzcut for sitting with his legs too wide or something.

This is what happens when you are raised by an ESTj mother who wanted to be an engineer, but was redirected into teaching grade school.

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FWIW,

http://www.celebritytypes.com/femini...arx=49&cult=55

I didn't like a lot of the questions which were too far skewed in one direction or another. But it makes sense my highest score was cultural feminism. Yes, "improve tolerance and diversity by celebrating women's special qualities and unique experiences". This is expressed especially in motherhood, which is THE key to improvement of society, IMO, so motherhood should be respected, celebrated and protected.

 

Cultural Feminism holds that women and men are essentially different and that women are generally more nurturing, more empathic, and less violent than men. Cultural Feminists seek to celebrate these qualities, which they believe have been oppressed by men.

Cultural Feminists believe that both men and women are hurt by contemporary male-dominated society, which they see as encouraging male behavior such as competition and conflict. According to Cultural Feminism, if women were given more power there would be less violence, fewer wars, and more understanding in the world.

The goal of Cultural Feminism is not to bring about some pre-scripted political revolution, but to improve tolerance and diversity by celebrating women's special qualities and unique experiences. Like Marxist Feminism, Cultural Feminism has in recent years expanded its focus from championing not just the perspectives of women, but also those of sexual and racial minorities as well.

And I do strongly disagree with throwing out the baby with the bathwater as far as traditionalism so I land at 50% in that category...

 

Traditionalism refers to illiberal strands of philosophy which seek to preserve what they see as the “natural” and “traditional” order of things. In the past, this standpoint was chiefly represented by early 20th century thinkers such as Julius Evola and Rene Guenon. After a hiatus following World War II, Traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of “conservatism to the right of mainstream conservatism.” It is chiefly popular among younger voters who are skeptical of the liberal enlightenment principles that mainstream conservatives accept, uniting instead behind national pride, a critical stance towards feminism and Islam, and resistance to globalism.

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All women should be mothers and homemakers. Including the ones that become war heroes. :hyper: Just not at the same time. Unless they really want to.

And women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Except for my mom. Women can't vote until they're 38 and men lose their right to vote when they turn 73!

Women and men are naturally different. And that's why secret disguises work as comedy.
Feminism is a joke, and so is this post. :popcorn: But it really is the way I think of the subject.

I read, "All men are created equal. That's why women are in charge." But the odd thing is that women are more equal with each other then men are with each other; a girl is more likely to be a stable investment, and a boy is more likely to be incredibly successful or incredibly unsuccessful. Same with the way genders tend to invest: men are more inclined to take risks.

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I didn't know I was such a radical...

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A lot of the questions would be better answered with a paragraph.

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Traditionalism: 17%
Liberal Feminism: 66%
Radical -"- : 70%
Marxist -"- : 81%
Cultural -"- : 65%

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Originally Posted by GuavaDrunk

A lot of the questions would be better answered with a paragraph.

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Yeah... I think I ended up being inconsistent in my answers

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Originally Posted by GuavaDrunk

A lot of the questions would be better answered with a paragraph.

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I had to not answer them by leaving it in the middle.

Is there a reason traditionalism's flag is the Reich's? I'm a little bit surprised I scored highly in there rather than more in even more in liberal. Maybe that's the default category and/or I was too neutral with a lot of it because I had no opinion or knowledge. Some of them just seemed like fact-based questions you would have just had to have specialized knowledge to know. Also, what does gender identity have to do with it? And why does anyone care? We should just label people by race and identification. Like Jew #1, Jew #2, etc. Oh wait...too much focus on group identification is wrong, that's why.

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I scored 0% feminism

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Originally Posted by peteronfireee

I scored 0% feminism

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Congrat... ulations? :o

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Originally Posted by Adam Strange

This is what happens when you are raised by an ESTj mother who wanted to be an engineer, but was redirected into teaching grade school.

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Ouch. I don't know the circumstances behind that but that's pretty harsh. Especially if you had the capacity to do that whereas she didn't. I also gotta ask how she got "redirected" as it were but I will not push. If you prefer to not elaborate I will leave it as is. Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but excessive curiosity did...

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Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason

FWIW,

http://www.celebritytypes.com/femini...arx=49&cult=55

I didn't like a lot of the questions which were too far skewed in one direction or another. But it makes sense my highest score was cultural feminism. Yes, "improve tolerance and diversity by celebrating women's special qualities and unique experiences". This is expressed especially in motherhood, which is THE key to improvement of society, IMO, so motherhood should be respected, celebrated and protected

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I agree with your viewpoint that motherhood is paramount but most "feminist" ideology rejects the importance of the father. This is why most of em' denigrate "stay at home moms" as it were. It's also why they pushed so hard for women's suffrage. Back in the day it was implicitly understood that women didn't really need to "vote" given their influence over their husband. Voting was a "family" affair, the "man" of the house cast the vote and only he could yes, but he only cast it one way or another after he discussed all the relevant issues with his family (wife and kids included). Traditional cultural forces ensured that his vote truly represented the will of the whole family.

He could, of course, "veto" their wishes, but he'd only be expected to do that if his duty to society required him to do so. I mean, if his wife and kids started ordering him to vote for the Christ-Hating Communists I'd hope he'd kindly disregard their wishes and vote for the heretic's God-Fearing Catholic opponent despite the wishes of his hopelessly deluded family. But that's just me, I await your critique of this viewpoint...

Also, because I must, here's my results:
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Damn, didn't think I was so "traditional"... Also, why ain't this site posting the picture like everyone else can? I need some technical assistance to make this thing work right please.

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Originally Posted by End

Also, because I must, here's my results:
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Damn, didn't think I was so "traditional"... Also, why ain't this site posting the picture like everyone else can? I need some technical assistance to make this thing work right please.

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I think you will have to actually link to a picture and not an url.

Feminism Test (5 Scale)

Your scores:

Traditionalism: 80 %
Liberal Feminism: 48 %
Radical Feminism: 20 %
Marxist Feminism: 19 %
Cultural Feminism: 25 %

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@Cuivienen

@hybris theory

@idontgiveaf

@Viktor

I don't really care about feminism. It's useless and waste of time to argue with this dumb shit

All it does is bring conflict. That's all. It's fucking useless. It's just a concept. Just a mere fucking concept that doesn't make a good impact on the world nor will even benefit me.

It's just a fucking mere opinion imposed by strong willed individuals who impose their own beliefs on others, and will get angry if others doesn't agree with them.

This is fucking immature and stupid.

What has feminism has became.

I just really thought it's just respecting women and giving them equal rights as men. That's all. But it has became over the top, and it became too much of a big deal that everyone just argue with this stupid shit that doesn't do anything good at all.

Feminism Test (5 Scale)

Your scores:

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XD

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I expected a result like that. :p

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my result. :p

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I mostly just believe in human rights and letting everything takes its course from there. I'm sure the Marxist Feminism being the next highest one is because I do think women are discriminated against and oppressed in a lot of cases, but it's because of British colonialism (not "capitalism" per se) and not The Patriarchy or White Cis Heterosexual Patriarcy (especially White Cis Heterosexual Patriarcy) or whatever. This isn't the Complain about British Imperialism thread though, but blaming sexism (and racism etc.) on "patriarchy" is like blaming disease on miasma to me. Disease is real, but it isn't caused by miasma, and blaming it on miasma just helps you avoid it mostly.

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Originally Posted by lungs

Calling yourself a feminist just invites other people to project their idea of what a feminist is on you, which usually involves the internet produced image of a browbeaten man getting screamed at by a woman with a brightly colored buzzcut for sitting with his legs too wide or something.

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Labels are bad. Especially since I tend to be the one sitting with my legs too wide or something. (Proof of enneagram?) But really, labels are bad. It's just a way of working top-down from stereotypes, but you'll never reach the bottom. Politics is mostly like sports for people who want to seem smart and savvy. Not wanting a label because you take it seriously and don't want to be in a sheeple tribe gets people looking at you like an alien. It doesn't seem like you can hold people in general to very high standards though.

Also, I don't think the kind of feminism you see online is really liberal feminism even if radical feminists call Tumblrites "libfems". Liberal means human rights, free markets, etc. and the test even describes it as that with Mary Wollstonecraft and the other examples. It tends to be seen as somewhat right-wing in the cases where people aren't just confused by it (although it's really just government based on individualism and not very conservative socially). Tumblr feminism is pretty internally incoherent but mostly based on the Frankfurt School, if the Frankfurt School's ideologies were the starting phrases in a telephone game played entirely by whiny ascendant bourgeoise (in other words, people the Frankfurt School would hate) adolescents and basement-bound younger adults on the Internet.

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Also, I don't think the kind of feminism you see online is really liberal feminism even if radical feminists call Tumblrites "libfems". Liberal means human rights, free markets, etc. and the test even describes it as that with Mary Wollstonecraft and the other examples. It tends to be seen as somewhat right-wing in the cases where people aren't just confused by it (although it's really just government based on individualism and not very conservative socially). Tumblr feminism is pretty internally incoherent but mostly based on the Frankfurt School, if the Frankfurt School's ideologies were the starting phrases in a telephone game played entirely by whiny ascendant bourgeoise (in other words, people the Frankfurt School would hate) adolescents and basement-bound younger adults on the Internet.

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Where I've seen "liberal feminism" used derogatorily by radical feminists is in reference to the idea that anything can be empowering as long as the individual enjoys it, with the implication that this ignores how personal choices are influenced by and influence broader social systems ie the debate over whether stripping can be feminist. It makes sense to me in that context.

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Where I've seen "liberal feminism" used derogatorily by radical feminists is in reference to the idea that anything can be empowering as long as the individual enjoys it, with the implication that this ignores how personal choices are influenced by and influence broader social systems ie the debate over whether stripping can be feminist. It makes sense to me in that context.

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Same. That's like "apply liberally" and really seems like a pretty perfect inversion of how people use "radical" to mean extremist and crazy when that's not what it technically means in the name radical feminism.

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Originally Posted by Theoria

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I got highest on liberal feminism 76%
Marxist 58%
45 and 46% on the other two
lowest was traditionalism at 37%

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Originally Posted by Aylen

I got highest on liberal feminism 76%
Marxist 58%
45 and 46% on the other two
lowest was traditionalism at 37%

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That's interesting...

So what do you think is the role of the man in a relationship? Like... the dynamic. Or what do you expect of men in general or of your potential partner specifically?
And what are your views on marriage? Just curious. ^-^'

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Originally Posted by Medusa

That's interesting...

So what do you think is the role of the man in a relationship? Like... the dynamic. Or what do you expect of men in general or of your potential partner specifically?
And what are your views on marriage? Just curious. ^-^'

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I don't really have hardcore stances on this stuff. I answered in the middle for a lot because I wasn't sure either way. The role depends on the relationship obviously. Keep in mind I am sx first so I don't feel my relationships have to conform to any societal (moral) standards. I have been in a relationship where I was the only one working and they did all the hard work like cooking, cleaning, paying bills, making sure everything required for daily living was done. I have also been in relationships where I stayed at home and they worked plus cooked and helped me clean or hired someone to do it. I think marriage is a personal choice made between two people and I have no problem with people choosing what is right for them. It's none of my business how others choose to commit or show their love. If I were with a millionaire I might see marriage as the easiest route to making sure I was not left broke if they died, especially if there were people who could contest the will. I have seen generally nice people turn into greedy jerks when it comes to money and it can even tear families apart. Wouldn't mean I was gold digging, just looking out for my future. I guess what bothers me is the idea of girls forced into plural marriages. That is basically abuse and brainwashing but if adults choose it and they are not harming anyone then whatever. :)

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Originally Posted by Aylen

Keep in mind I am sx first so I don't feel my relationships have to conform to any societal (moral) standards.

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Just for the record.. I m so-first, yet I do not think I want there to be a certain pattern/moral for relationships. :p

I agree with @Aylen when she says every relationship is unique and cannot be compared, once you've had a real and deep connection with someone roles and positions just vanish/ are not as important anymore as the wonderful @Herzy once said. I also do not want to be completely dependant, what if something happens or you break up, what will be left of you as an individual or how will you be able to get back on your feet by yourself?
I would say I agree with lots 'feminist' ideologies, yet I do not call myself one, because I think any movement is just there to be understood as a message and no movement is clear-cut, there are too many branches to say feminism is X. Most of my values are pretty left-ist.
I hate when so many people say 'femnazi' or use feminism as such a negative term when they 1. probably never experienced many of the things happening to women and other discriminated groups themselves (yes there will be women who grew up guarded enough that they will not have experienced the daily sexism many others did, doesn't mean tons of others don't experience it), the thing is to see this as something bigger than oneself thus empathy is needed and a bigger understanding of how things are linked to each other and to get out of your bubble with "but we are equal". 2. just bash something without understanding something through empathy, just because they might feel threatened by something they cannot comprehend.

It's a bit like trying to understand racism when you never experienced it.. you will probably make it look insignificant "it's not like that anymore" when you actually do not know shit about what actually happens out there and how someone lives who IS discriminated against. I also did that a few times.. but I am trying to improve my empathy and understanding for others.

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Talk about loaded questions.
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I skipped most of the questions (hence traditionalism is so high) because you can not speak about women and men as being representatives of their group.

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I personally find it hard to adhere to any social movement and generally pick specifics to care about, so I don't think of myself as a feminist and definitely don't refer to myself as one. But I believe our economic system perpetuates sexism.

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I scored "Feminism is Cancer."

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