Club 16 or "Yes we can"

Here you may write to which types you were ever typed.
The preferable format: a single message with all versions of your type. Later you may add new revelations by editing of that post.

Me
SEI, LII, EIE, LSI, SLE, IEI, SEE, ILI, LIE, ESI, LSE, EII, IEE, SLI

the ones brought up more than just in passing, from most to least common:

ESI = EII
IEE
ILI = IEI

EIE and IEI have been the most common typings by other forum members.

ILE, LIE, LII, ILI, LSE, and SLE have all been brought up in passing.

troll typings have been SEE (Maritsa) EII (Joblo) and SEI (silke)

ILE, EIE.

mostly SLI, LII and ILI

iirc, some suggested ILE and LSI

usually LIE and SEE
also IEE SLI SLE SEI

SEI, ESE, ILE?, IEI, LSI, ILI, SLI, IEE, EII?

?s = possible speculations and possibly not an actual typing, i just can't remember

LSI, SLE

Only these two have been brought up consistently.

IEI, SEI, EIE.

I have personally considered LII, EII, and ILE seriously (although when I answered this question two years ago, I suggeted the answer was six, which included IEE, SEI, and IEI)...those six have all been suggested by others I think, as well as ESE, ILI, SLI, SEE, and maybe also ESI and LSI. So possibly 12 (not including those meant in jest).

ESI, IEE ,IEI, EII

EIE :p EII LII ESE

I've considered for myself LIE, IEI, ESI, and ILE. I've only been considered by others as ILI, so it seems.

SEI, ILE, ESE, SLE, ESI, LIE, SEE, EII, SLI, LSE

more than halfway there :)

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Originally Posted by Contra

I've considered for myself LIE, IEI, ESI, and ILE. I've only been considered by others as ILI, so it seems.

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One of your dopplegangers got officially typed as EIE. The officials, to me, seem to do conflictors sometimes. This would put you as SLI, operating on the social sphere in role+creative. People supposedly can't view Leading, unless they have the same or it is in their creative.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy8419

One of your dopplegangers got officially typed as EIE. The officials, to me, seem to do conflictors sometimes. This would put you as SLI, operating on the social sphere in role+creative. People supposedly can't view Leading, unless they have the same or it is in their creative.

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Doppelganger? Who?

"the officials, to me, seem to do conflictors sometimes."

What do you mean?

Edit: Also, do you personally see SLI or are you saying I'm SLI wholly as a function of this supposed trick of perception?

EII
ESI
EIE *whispers* "Thanks Santa"

I was typed:
ILI IEI EII EIE LIE LII LSI IEE ILE SEI ESI ESE SLI LSE
The only types I never got were SEE and SLE

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Originally Posted by Pa3s

mostly SLI, LII and ILI

iirc, some suggested ILE and LSI

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Exactly all the same types I have considered as well.

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Originally Posted by Contra

Doppelganger? Who?

"the officials, to me, seem to do conflictors sometimes."

What do you mean?

Edit: Also, do you personally see SLI or are you saying I'm SLI wholly as a function of this supposed trick of perception?

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Verglas over at PerC. There's a few people floating around that I've seen with behaviors similar to your own.

They type people as their conflictor, imo, sometimes. Probably due to conflictor being one of the most simple alterations of TIM.

Wholly as a result of the trick. I haven't given that much thought, to be honest. Most of my personal focus of socionics is female related, so I don't always file away anything on male variations. It did occur to me before that you could be SLI, but I also combine things back into sources; e.g., all types back into delta variants. If you just go strictly by ITR, on my end, at least, being intra-Quadra to myself would seem probable.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy8419

Verglas over at PerC. There's a few people floating around that I've seen with behaviors similar to your own.

They type people as their conflictor, imo, sometimes. Probably due to conflictor being one of the most simple alterations of TIM.

Wholly as a result of the trick. I haven't given that much thought, to be honest. Most of my personal focus of socionics is female related, so I don't always file away anything on male variations. It did occur to me before that you could be SLI, but I also combine things back into sources; e.g., all types back into delta variants. If you just go strictly by ITR, on my end, at least, being intra-Quadra to myself would seem probable.

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ok, I looked over there and it seems Verglas types ILI as well. Who is "officially" typing people? The only other type i really would consider for myself is LIE. Given that Se egos energize me far more than Ne egos and the fact that I don't really relate to may aspects of Si valuing, I think Im going to stick with ILI over SLI.

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Originally Posted by Contra

ok, I looked over there and it seems Verglas types ILI as well. Who is "officially" typing people? The only other type i really would consider for myself is LIE. Given that Se egos energize me far more than Ne egos and the fact that I don't really relate to may aspects of Si valuing, I think Im going to stick with ILI over SLI.

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You're using comparisons. The roots may not be correct.

http://socionicasys.org/public/proto...IE_Verglas.htm

Y'all's energy is pretty distinctive.

@Contra

Also, you mentioned that they energize you. Does the energy seem deeply very strong? Or juvenile and foolish?

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Originally Posted by Jeremy8419

You're using comparisons. The roots may not be correct.

http://socionicasys.org/public/proto...IE_Verglas.htm

Y'all's energy is pretty distinctive.

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ok, that's an interesting interview. I'll read more when I have time. Upon first glance, he doesn't seem much like an EIE to me.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy8419

@Contra

Also, you mentioned that they energize you. Does the energy seem deeply very strong? Or juvenile and foolish?

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It's not easy to describe but it's a positive experience. In a sense it feels like a better version of myself comes out. This is due in part to the increase in energy and also an increase in validation- more or less. Is it deep? idk. as deep as any experience. but it's positive so it falls in contrast to juvenile and foolish. I have had moments where my energy was more juvenile and foolish. That energy has come out around more Alpha SFs i'd say.

EIE, IEI, SEI, ESE

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Originally Posted by Contra

ok, that's an interesting interview. I'll read more when I have time. Upon first glance, he doesn't seem much like an EIE to me.


It's not easy to describe but it's a positive experience. In a sense it feels like a better version of myself comes out. This is due in part to the increase in energy and also an increase in validation- more or less. Is it deep? idk. as deep as any experience. but it's positive so it falls in contrast to juvenile and foolish. I have had moments where my energy was more juvenile and foolish. That energy has come out around more Alpha SFs i'd say.

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IEI is king of positive energy, not SEE.

Demonstrative is the seat of the culmination of experiences and the seat of the soul.

Try reading the descriptions of strat for the Quadra and the duals, as well as DarkAngelFireWolf69 on Quadra progressions. SEE is the diplomatic charlatan. IEI is the know-no-better raw hope of the individual.

IEI EIE ILE LII IEE ESE

bolded ones are most prevalent, the beta typings where when in just joined and the ese seems a wierd outlier that sometimes pops up because people seem to think i'm "cheery"

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Originally Posted by Persephone

I was typed:
ILI IEI EII EIE LIE LII LSI IEE ILE SEI ESI ESE SLI LSE
The only types I never got were SEE and SLE

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You're obviously percieving sensing, probably Se dominant! I think you're SEE or SLE!







you're welcome :D

LII, EII, ILE, SEI, SLI, ILI, IEE, IEI, ESE, LSE

In rough order of frequency, from most to least.

The last two, seem like joke typings for me, I don't think there is any way I'm extraverted and sensing, let alone Ni PoLR

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Originally Posted by Reficulris

You're obviously percieving sensing, probably Se dominant! I think you're SEE or SLE!








you're welcome :D

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Ouiiiiii now that I have all the types, I feel like a fully mature person :hug:

ILI or SLI

People I know (and also some from this forum) have considered LIE, EIE and IEI

I have tried to think about LII but Ij temperament does not fit all. Some tests try to pin me down as IEI/INFJ which is not the case. In the end it all boils to down irrational alpha with logic. Can I see myself as Te base? Not really. Ne base? Yes. IEEs I get them on same level but it usually goes to a direction where I wouldn't go (it is weird when I get into into eye contact with another Ne base. You just can tell it without words.).

IEI, EIE, EII, IEE, SEI, SLE, SEE, ESI

IEI

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Originally Posted by Captain Kimu

The ones I can remember people have "typed" me: LII, IEI, ESE, EIE, SLE, SEE, IEE, ILI, ILE SEI, IEE, SLI. (Probably forgotten 1 or 2...who knows)

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:confused2: What are you? A chameleon?

Here I'm literally only typed SEI.... actually EII and IEE have been considered by some, but SEI is the only type seriously given to me, which kinda annoys me since I didn'tthink I'd be that obvious... ;~; Also I've been VI'ed as both SLI and SEI.

Not ethical.

IEI, ILI, ESI (probably a joke), LII, and SEE.

I have been typed as: IEE, EII, IEI, EIE, SEI. Most of the times I've been typed IEI, but lately people started to see me as IEE more, not sure exactly why.
There are also types that people suggested like a second option for me, but I don't think that is important.
Types I've been never typed as or recomended they might be my type are: ESE, LII, SLE, LSI, ESI, LIE, SLI, LSE.

Addendum: I also submitted a long questionnaire and I got typed by ESI by a couple of experts from the School of System Socionics. I was not expecting this at all. Apparently my Ne responses were 'weak' and my Se seemed greater than 1-D to them.

This is a proof typing someone is nonsense

In this forum I think Chea and Sol and Reverie wanted to type me LSI at some point.

I met NewBornStar in real life in 2012 and he typed me ILI

I only know two people irl who actually know socionics and they type me SEI

I have an ILE friend who knows just a little Socioincs and he suggested IEI

An IEI-Ni: LII (I think she considered IEI>SEI)
An ILE-Ne: SEI
An asshole: LII or IEI
An EII-Ne: LII or SEI
An SLE-Se: IEI-??
A Beta Introtim: SEI
Probably some other people: SEI
Maybe one person: EII

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

In this forum I think Chea and Sol and Reverie wanted to type me LSI at some point.

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In case I'd was sure enough in some your concrete type, I'd said it. Same for Chae. Reverie is reserved.

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Originally Posted by Sol

In case I'd was sure enough in some your concrete type, I'd said it. Same for Chae. Reverie is reserved.

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Yes, In fact you never typed me LSI. I was mistaken. You only questioned the SEI typing.

But Reverie and Chae suggested LSI for me at some point.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

Yes, In fact you never typed me LSI. I was mistaken. You only questioned the SEI typing.

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As questioned seems was your F. And 3 others assumed T type. Against 3 which think you as F type + you. 50/50 :)
You have a basis to make a typing thread.

Maybe I should make a video where I go ballistic emotional?

I mean I have never really heard of other types.

Here. On discord someone said SEI. :popcorn: That was interesting.

Well, what I have heard IRL was ILI and LII just because I'm not ultimate natural born people manipulator (person thought that was about being ILE :shock:).

Brought up often: IEE, SEE, EIE, IEI (all with ethical subtypes)

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Brought up sometimes: ESE

Brought up at the beginning, discarded: ILI, LIE

Brought up briefly: SLE, ILE

Brought up practically never: SEI, SLI, LSI, LII, LSE, EII, ESI

Been typed: IEE, ILE, IEI, ILI, EII, LII, SEI, SLI

Never been typed: SLE, SEE, LSE, ESE, LSI, ESI, EIE, LIE

Been typed: IEE, SLI, ILI, ESI, ILE, LII, IEI, EII

Never been typed: ESE, EIE, SEI, LSE, SLE, LSI, SEE, LIE

Been typed often as: LII, ILE
Been typed a few times as: EII, IEE :shifty:
Been typed once as: ILI

Never been typed as: any other / remaining type

Trying to remember in order.

From 5 minute video where I do not speak at all because "non verbal". I did show videos where I do speak to some people.

EII (2 people)
EIE (2 people
IEI (most people)
xEI (1 person)
SLE (1 person)

Fi/Se (later reconsidered with more information)

and an honorable mention to:

ESE :D (without video or pic)

"The thinking of the introverted type is positive and synthetic in the development of those ideas which in ever increasing measure approach the eternal validity of the primordial images. But, when their connection with objective experience begins to fade, they become mythological and untrue for the present situation. Hence this thinking holds value only for its contemporaries, just so long as it also stands in visible and understandable connection with the known facts of the time. But, when thinking becomes mythological, its irrelevancy grows until finally it gets lost in itself. The relatively unconscious functions of feeling, intuition, and sensation, which counterbalance introverted thinking, are inferior in quality and have a primitive, extraverted character, to which all the troublesome objective influences this type is subject to must be ascribed. The various measures of self-defence, the curious protective obstacles with which such people are wont to surround themselves, are sufficiently familiar, and I may, therefore, spare myself a description of them. They all serve as a defence against 'magical' influences; a vague dread of the other sex also belongs to this category." --Jung

I will keep Jung in mind when dealing with some Ti egos.

* I was almost positive that @Sol would type me something different based on my non verbal because I didn't see myself very similar to his examples but I was wrong. I still don't see myself similar to most of his examples. :shrug: Now I am really curious what his external cues are since I have disagreed with a lot of his typings. I think he should make his own non verbal VI guide to typing. He has to be using something other than his intuition. Something that sensors see (whether right or wrong).

I initially go on my first impression. Some people are harder to read than others. I often doubt my first impression and go into analyzing. I have gotten better at listening to intuition but I still have a nagging feeling I should not rush to judgement and give people the benefit of the doubt so I tend to err on the side of, I don't know anyone better than they know themselves and I am mostly past that kind of arrogance (so I allow some doubt to remain to keep myself in check)

From Nonverbal Cues to Perception: Personality and Social Attractiveness

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Originally Posted by Raver

Been typed: IEE, ILE, IEI, ILI, EII, LII, SEI, SLI

Never been typed: SLE, SEE, LSE, ESE, LSI, ESI, EIE, LIE

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The only difference between us is that you've been typed SEI where I was typed ESI. Are you copying my personality? :P

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Originally Posted by Aramas

The only difference between us is that you've been typed SEI where I was typed ESI. Are you copying my personality? :P

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Nope, maybe this somewhat proves we are both IEE haha?

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Originally Posted by Raver

Nope, I did not see your post before posting. Maybe this somewhat proves we are both IEE haha?

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Perhaps. Or that we are both the same type and mistype. *shrug* I am not certain. Either way, the similarity is now uncanny.

ESI, EII, SLI

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Originally Posted by Aylen

I still don't see myself similar to most of his examples.

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It's so rare when someone agrees with most of examples, that I never saw it. Except high conformity cases. I remember a girl which claimed that agrees with me good. Well. I did a typing matching experiment and she got one of the lowest real matches with me. That girl is possible IEI and thinks herself as IEE. She's moderator and soon I've got a 3 month ban... probably just a coincidence. She likes me still... especially when in delta subforum I've noticed that I have no basis to think anyone there as delta, including her.

> I think he should make his own non verbal VI guide to typing. He has to be using something other than his intuition. Something that sensors see

Special kind of intuition of S types. :)
Only Ne: watching and feeling to a description of what trait a human is closer. It needs training. My bloggers examples may be used to study to type similar to me: watch them and try to feel traits of types: dichotomies, ego functions, effects of your IR, etc. In every example and as general in people of the concrete type group. This should rise real match with me.
I'm typing intuitively from the beginning - looking on a man and trying to understand to which trait description he's closer. You need to have clear understanding of every used trait, their difference. For dichotomies descriptions I initially found as useful Meged-Ovcharov short test, but there was nothing special - just a compact text.
IR test may be used as starting material for studing - as you'll need to feel intuitivelly what is common in people of one type and to compare them by this common with people of other types. Your brain will activate your intuition good during this sorting. Base Ne types pass this easier and seems give more correct results. Those who find the examples of other sex as too not attractive, should use the examples of own sex for sorting.

> I initially go on my first impression.

It needs at least several minutes to get sure impression of type. Better to look several clips to check are the impressions same.

> I don't know anyone better than they know themselves

But they have no or worse skills to interpret correctly what they know.
Some doubt is useful. My is ~10% as I change my opinions regularly. Remove examples from a list, move to other types, after time some return to new place or where they were previously.

I have been typed as: IEI, SLE, EIE, LIE, SEE, IEE

Honorable mention to ESE, lolol @Aylen

That's how fucked up typing communities are

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Originally Posted by Sol

As questioned seems was your F. And 3 others assumed T type. Against 3 which think you as F type + you. 50/50 :)
You have a basis to make a typing thread.

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There is always a basis for a typing thread for anyone. It injects some vitamins into this forum.

I understand very well why I have been typed these ways:

LSI - because I am often logical and conservative online
ILI - superego visible
IEI - "intuitive" interests like psychology / romantic tendencies
SEI - people who know both me and socionics well

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

There is always a basis for a typing thread for anyone. It injects some vitamins into this forum.

I understand very well why I have been typed these ways:

LSI - because I am often logical and conservative online
ILI - superego visible
IEI - "intuitive" interests like psychology / romantic tendencies
SEI - people who know both me and socionics well

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It's possible, I seen this thread http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1238490 and when I checked TIM I was surprised it said SEI, so I checked some other posts and found this one. It's possible you're SEI but it's pushing the boundaries of what I understand SEI to be. I've seen some IEIs posit theories and logics, but not with the same dryness and usually there's a linking of a website or paragraphs to provide a form of Te. You might be SEI but if you're inclined I'd like you to post your reasoning/rationale for SEI. Not because you're wrong, but so that I and maybe others can learn something. Thanks.

I've been typed as ILI, SLI, LII, LSI, EII, and ESI.

Of those, I was most commonly typed as ILI/SLI at about an equal rate. The least common was ESI.

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Originally Posted by Scarper

It's possible, I seen this thread http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1238490 and when I checked TIM I was surprised it said SEI, so I checked some other posts and found this one. It's possible you're SEI but it's pushing the boundaries of what I understand SEI to be. I've seen some IEIs posit theories and logics, but not with the same dryness and usually there's a linking of a website or paragraphs to provide a form of Te. You might be SEI but if you're inclined I'd like you to post your reasoning/rationale for SEI. Not because you're wrong, but so that I and maybe others can learn something. Thanks.

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Thanks for the feedback.

-The personality we show in this forum is very limited. Its like a dissociation. It has to do with the nature of the subject. For some people I dont appear as an SEI on this forum, and im not trying to either. Just write what comes to mind. Avoiding too much clutter becsuse peoples attention is limited. But im trying to write in an aesthetically pleasant way.

-Im not a feeling-seeker. I have the Feeling in myself. I am not interested in appearing as a feeler.

-this is not a role game. The type is what it is, but then there are things like education books you've read experience with typology, social circles. All this affects behaviour.

- i dont have the time or effort to give my rationale for SEI. Except for what I've just written. Its not a problem for me because I know socionics quite well. Video would be the easiest way to show whats behind the words.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

SEI - people who know both me and socionics well

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A lot of mistypings and low typing match by those who knows the theory good and have enough of typing material. The only way to be sure in own type - to type >10 people near you and check is theory fits good to your impressions from them. If it does not - your type is unsure. I notice T types are closer to the style of your thinking and talking. To say more is hard by messages.

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Originally Posted by Sol

A lot of mistypings and low typing match by those who knows the theory good and have enough of typing material. The only way to be sure in own type - to type >10 people near you and check is theory fits good to your impressions from them.

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Sol, Im not relying on those people if you thought that. They have nothing to do with my self typing. They just happen to agree with it. My own typing is based on a decade of typology and hundreds of typed people near me. Friends, girlfriends and co-workers.

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Originally Posted by Tallmo

Thanks for the feedback.

-The personality we show in this forum is very limited. Its like a dissociation. It has to do with the nature of the subject. For some people I dont appear as an SEI on this forum, and im not trying to either. Just write what comes to mind. Avoiding too much clutter becsuse peoples attention is limited. But im trying to write in an aesthetically pleasant way.

-Im not a feeling-seeker. I have the Feeling in myself. I am not interested in appearing as a feeler.

-this is not a role game. The type is what it is, but then there are things like education books you've read experience with typology, social circles. All this affects behaviour.

- i dont have the time or effort to give my rationale for SEI. Except for what I've just written. Its not a problem for me because I know socionics quite well. Video would be the easiest way to show whats behind the words.

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I could see SEI for you.

Alpha NTs are slim pickings on here, so sometimes it's better to stay out of it than in.

A video would be cool, if you make one great. It's also a way to look at overcoming inertia, in DarkAngelFireWolf69 recommendations for self improvements, but, if Te is business logics in SLI, ethics is ethics-logics in SEI, why expose yourself to stereotypes.

Cool. I'll say SEI, based on your knowledge and your post, and how it could work too. Thanks again, for engaging my curiosity.

LSI, ILI, IEI, SEE, SLE, ILE

Seriously considered: a lot of types, theres something to say for every type and i like to explore the possibilities and intertypes accordingly

I've been typed as:
IEI, EII, IEE, EIE, SEI, ESI, LII, ILI, ESE

Extra: ILE (by podlair :P) and SEE (by @mu4, but he later changed his mind to IEI)

I've seriously considered:
INFJ or INFP (back in the MBTI days); IEI

I got typed as...

Core type: 4 (either wing), 9w1, 5w4, 6 (by @Mr inappropriate)

Stacking: So/Sp, So/Sx

Heart fix: 4, 2 (by @Mr inappropriate)
Mind fix: 5, 7 (by @maniac), 6 (by @Mr inappropriate)
Gut fix: 9w1, and someone might have suggested 1w9 before...


I've seriously considered...

So/Sp or Sp/So, when I did not really understand the instincts too well.

@Retsu77 ;)

EIE, IEI, IEE, EII, ESI, SEE, SEI, ESE

Literally all the ethical types the fuck haha

IEI, SEI, EII, ILE

I got EII when I first took the test but after understanding the functions more... no way I'm a delta. Just know how to morph myself into one if the situation rises and I have to manipulate/gaslight my way out of a sticky situation.

I've been typed as ILE, LII, LIE, SLE, LSI XD Strange typing :P

IEI, then SLE, by VI which was VERY dumb, then back to IEI, then ILI, then LII, then ILI. To be fair, that's pretty much me saying half of these. Uh yeah, I'm going to stop at ILI. Makes the most sense, because I have Ni, but not Fe. I hope everyone knows I just ignore that, and hope all the people who don't like that I ignore it leave.

Good strategy will work.

IEI
SLE
LSI
SLI
SEE
ESI
ILI
LII
LIE
LSE

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Originally Posted by Olimpia

@Retsu77 ;)

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I've been typed as every type but the correct one, AFAIK.

EII, IEI, ILI, ESI, LSE, SLI, LII...

... but in reality... I'm ESE! :muaha:

IEE, ILE, EII, LII, SEI, ESE (many times suggested)
ILI, IEI, SEE (at least one suggestion, I find ridiculous))

The only ones I've ever actually typed as are IEE and ILE.

LII
IEI
EII
IEE
ILI
SLI
SEI

Update: ILE, ILI, IEE. LIE, LII, SEI.