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So Gamma has a productive meeting, Betas get mad at each other and have what amounts to a bar brawl, Delta's get bored and take a nap, and Alpha breaks out the booze and has a party but gets nothing done. Yep, sounds about right :p. How does one post pictures by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
Obviously the alpha one is the best.
Beta looks to be most proper. There isn't an issue that can't be solved by intimidation and fisticuffs. The Alphas are just drunk/high fools that aren't getting anything done, the Gammas are probably just being suck-ups and yes-people to the boss, the Deltas have just committed mass suicide due to their ESTj overlord showing yet another intractable organizational chart.
You may post pictures through the attach image option at the top panel as you are writing a new post. It will plaster your image into your post anywhere that you click on it :) Attached images come out as thumbnails--if you want the image showing full size post them with an image host, such as postimage, tinypic, imgur and others. These sites delete pictures after a while, imgur pics lasting the longest in my trials with it (their guarantee is 6 months). If the images needs to last and display full size, I'll use a picture host and attach it to the post as a safety net. This works on most forums I've been active on.Quote:
Originally Posted by End
SEE showing off (like a night moth) :p
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ESI Se look o.o
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gamma humor :lol:
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^^^Yes, I like the face of the girl above Yul Brynner.
and this humor is pretty funny. Also, the thin girl is cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
It's a portrait of Vivien Leigh :) She played Scarlett O'Hara in Gone with the Wind and Blanche DuBois in A Streetcar Named Desire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Strange
depressed Ni-ILI flower giving advice
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I'll also post memes on here when I find useful ones but for now... time for female ILI aesthetics.
There's some sort of serene gothic element to these images (ILI's Te is more contained than IEI's Fe), as well as a "fog" - :Ni: is by far the most hazy function. Determining factor No.3 is darkness or depth.
Other components are seclusion, being a "witness" or silent victim (never openly tortured like Beta NFs), solitary rulership, symbolism, inactivity (absence of speed or elation), ice and death. Balzac is the tragic "voice of reason" so the woman seems to know something that others cannot see. Us ILIs are critical and anticipatingly lyrical in the same breath, so the images portray a figure of premonition. Ni knows about the repercussions of whatever happens - romanticism and realism are hard to tell apart here, but a certain glorified negativity prevails.
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Up next are the male ILI aesthetics, please look forward to them. <3
Male ILI aesthetics; following the same principles as described in the female version. The association with the grim reaper (conventionally masculinized) is added: :Ni: for "time is over", :Te: for whatever results practically from the passage of that time. The male ILI as some sort of shadow prince is often veiled or remote.
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could be more delta than gamma actually
Se-creative but more LSI than ESI imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
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I've taken a look at Filatova's portraits and noticed that she has similar piercing determined look as the first ESI guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resonare
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ESI lips seems to be strictly and evenly compressed, while the LSIs appear to have dreamy quarter-smiles on their faces (Fe?)
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Originally Posted by Milo
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Originally Posted by Milo
Piercing looks are Se in geneal. None of the LSIs from Filatova's portraits really match having "dreamy quarter-smiles" at all, that seems more like an IEI thing. http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...portraits-Beta
Lisa-Marie Presley (LSI)
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Statues of Greek deities in close-ups.
Apollo Belvedere, Athena in Vienna, Ares Ludovisi, Nike of the Vatican, Zeus of Versailles, Neptune of Adam, Hera Efeso, Artemis of Versailles, Demeter (Palazzo Altemps), Canovian Venus with Adonis, Canovian Eros.
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Who's your favourite? I like Ares.
Angela Jerih - ESI illustrator who draws scenes from everyday life in eastern europe
somehow the women in her pictures end up looking rather ESI or SEE
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another one:Quote:
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Basically all Jessica Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHUjuJ8zxE
They don't look anything alike--that much is obvious.
This Lisa-Marie Presley person you posted is like a drone, how can you even compare them.
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Originally Posted by Resonare
Posted by an ESI on her facebook page (-Fi and Ne PoLR)
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Except I never did.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
Maybe try quoting exactly what I posted instead.
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Don't lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resonare
You have claimed that Vivien Leigh is more LSI than ESI and posted them together in your post to compare them.
Turns out that "except you did".
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Originally Posted by Resonare
Again, read what I actually posted and not what you think I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
Those are the screenshots of what you've posted. If you meant to say anything else by all means do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resonare
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(ESI) ISFj
That's like saying "Those are the words you posted" after moving them around...Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
You seem to be a special case so I'll explain it for you.
Milo said ESI's have strict and compressed lips and LSI's have "dreamy quarter smiles", so I posted a picture of Vivien (the person you both think is ESI) with a "dreamy, quarter smile" and Lisa Marie-Presley (who is LSI) with strict and compressed lips. I also included something about piercing gazes being a typical trait of Se-ego types in general and not just ESIs.
You assumed I was comparing them, but there's no Vivien-Lisa comparison in any of that.
@Chae I just saved 60% of the photos you had posted
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That one looks more Si to me. SLI or SEI. Look at all of the items associated with 'comfort'. Candles, coffee, just lounging in a chair reading a newspaper, no rush. Maybe SLI because it appears a bit more serious.
...nothing really posted so far seems "gamma".. except the Jessica Jones trailer (but maybe I'm just biased because I like the show).
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these were posted on an LIE's wall
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this is what they must mean by Se 'kick in the behind' in the articles
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gamma love
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find the ILI kid :lol:
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picturesque representation of ILI Fe polr
This appeared to be Gamma :Fi:, enneagram 6 SP.
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EJ temperament + Ni creative + Se HA
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Gamma, gamma, gamma, gamma, the socion
duality
duality.....eeee
whaaaa...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Osifer
It's The Gamma Song, sing it Wace....Quote:
Originally Posted by wacey
I would if i knew the melodyQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil Osifer
Well I'm a problem solver so here you go!Quote:
Originally Posted by wacey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw
Not sure how this is gamma...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Osifer
Just being goofy wacey.Quote:
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I figured, just wasn't sure what it was about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Osifer
I've just heard about and started reading a certain series and boy oh boy if it does not SCREAM Gamma I don't know what does. Here's a bit of heavy metal that pertains to it folks and lemme tell ya, upon researching this it is/was like finally discovering Guilty Gear as a long time "Fighting Game" fan. Like finally getting around to reading "Lord of the Rings" as a High Fantasy aficionado. I can go on but I really don't wanna because I'd need many more degrees in abstract shit in order to what my :Ni: says I'd need to be a "seminal" thinker if'n ya catch my drift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKJ91Z3OPDE
Point is, ingest this shit and understand exactly how and why it's so fucking ravenously consumed by those who just so happen to randomly come across it and why it from that moment forth influences everything they come up with after. For fighting games there was the era before GG and after GG for instance. Elric's story introduced the ORIGINAL "Soul Eating" sword into the realm of fantasy. Stormbringer, accept no substitutes. Likewise, GG introduced a meter that served multiple purposes beyond a paltry super move. Point is, try and perceive the seminal/ur examples of something and fucking INGEST it! You'll come off as way, WAY smarter than you are if you do so :).
There are few things more fleeting in life than power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chae
That roused your :Ni: huh!Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Some resonance with LII, EIE as well here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olimpia
@Olimpia lol :P
edit: sry for mispelling your username
These Gamma NTs... out there wildin' like
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An ESI guy I know actually posted these.
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Gammas are not just interested in making money; that is a bad stereotype and one which needs to die. In my opinion, Gammas are actually better equipped, psychologically, to maintain a romantic relationship than members of the other Quadras.
It would be more accurate to say that Gammas don't truly believe in doing anything just "for fun". Romance is very serious and courtship is therefore conducted in a rather business-like fashion. Gammas' laser-sharp focus and pushiness is what puts off the other Quadras, who find them too solemn (Beta), too overbearing (Delta), or both (Alpha). As much as anything, Gammas just dislike pretenses and will not play games. They are sincere about their needs, desires and ambitions in life, even around strangers. This is because they want to know if the other person has common goals. Fundamentally, Gamma relationships are based upon mutual benefit - love will grow over time as the couple explore each other on a physical and emotional level.
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Yeah, that dude's robotic as fuck. Watch an interview with him and you'll notice that his body language isn't natural, so he makes people kind of uneasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chae
So, I think this quote has two equally valid meanings. 1. Public icons are have an element of artifice to them and 2. The man himself operates in an artificial way.
Undercurrents of :Fe: PoLR.
Jim Carey echoed similar sentiments here, I think the above only holds if you identify yourself with Fe presence, whereas to me Zuck's comments come off as Fi polr
Zuckerberg is an alien. Check out his eyes. Omggggggg
Extra terrestrial confirmed
Hey, something I relate to. How about that. Everything else is maybe, but probably not. Actually, I'll say the conferences one is possibly accurate. Not sure. Charles Bukowski is a probably yes. Again, everything is probably no.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
Oh yeah, the kid with the poster. Yeah. Cool. Everything else is eh. I'll look for something to contribute. Oh yes. I got it. No. Garfield will not work. Uh. Ergh. Yeah, it's taking too much effort. I'm done.
Too funny how well this fits the hot ESI Sp/Sx stereotype. :lol:
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And here's the SEE version, haha.
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Nice. Somewhere in the middle is what I'm aiming for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olimpia
*EDIT* I have been noticing more and more ESI's, and I do think many of them do have a strong focus on guys who have some money. Or maybe it's the money itself they are focusing on. Lol.
It's not something that offends me. They aren't actually reckless with their spending.
Maybe it's confirmation bias because you see money as the thing youre capable of offering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Strange
I'm not so sure, I know an ILI who moved in with an ESI, she seemed sensible on the outside, but he did confess to me that later when they were planning buying a house together, he discovered her salary didn't even take her out of her overdraft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Strange
Not to say they're all like that.
It's interesting though, because I knew an SLI who almost didn't get a job due to their poor credit history. It makes me wonder how much of this is type related vs person related. I'm not sure enough to write boring paragraphs about it.
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Originally Posted by Scarper
Lol. I, too, have a great ILI friend who married an ESI-Se. Even though he's a lawyer, she managed to secretly run up enough credit card debt that he had to re-mortgage their house to pay it off (at a lower interest rate). It nearly ended their marriage.
She wants more affection from him than he's willing or able to give, too.
I've spent weeks at a time visiting them, and she and I get along seamlessly, in a completely drama-free manner. I'm not poaching, though. One, I don't do that. Two, he's one of my best friends and she's too heavy to be an option for me.
This is just one more example of why, for me, it's Duality or GTFO.
Possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by lump
I've given this a lot of thought, lungs. I've just noted that money is something that ESI's mention. A lot. I make the stuff fairly effortlessly, so it's not that big a deal to me.
I've begun to compare this to the fact that LIE's have Te-facts and Ni-intuition to bring to the duality, and ESI's have Fi-loyalty and Se-assertiveness to bring to the duality. Each naturally has something to offer the other, and it costs them nothing because they are naturally good at it.
Obviously, things have not worked out between me and my private semi-duals, the LSI's. I have a public semi-dual at work, an EII, who is professionally everything I could want (almost) but for whom I feel exactly zero attraction, so that semi-duality doesn't work, either.
I know an LIE-Ni company owner who works with his EII wife, and they are professionally successful but the pair lacks Se and the company's culture and success level reflects this. It is seriously dysfunctional with respect to getting things done effectively.
If ESI's talk a lot about money, I probably talk a lot about sex. Sex and money, the basis of the ESI-LIE duality.
I've seen that written as a joke before, but there is some truth to it. :)
ive noticed that it can be boring when I hang out w/ my esi cousin who I think is also sp-first bcuz we spend a lot of time talking about money and bills and stuff. but her bf drives for grubhub and my most recent bf is a student. money might be a preoccupation for us but we both see ourselves as responsible for our own finances.
my se-esi sister is more interested in flashy things or whatever & more inclined to date a guy with money but she's self-sufficient as hell and would be insulted if anybody implied otherwise. and I think she's actually sx first.
To be honest, I think that the ESI-Se who is married to the ILI lawyer ran up the credit card debt as a sure-fire way to get his attention, which he otherwise keeps to himself.
Duals have the most effective levers to both activate and moderate their partners. The levers work for duals, and they don't work that well for non-duals.
*EDIT* I like some level of flash. Just as long as I see that is it firmly based on Fi.
I think the way I can find this is that ESI's with what I'm looking for dress with a muted classiness. SLI females excel at this, which is probably a big part of why I married one. Look at any of the image posts by @Syrup to see this.
I think we have to be careful about ascribing items such as money to types/duality. It might be different for gamma duality, but my experience of duality is that we're not kept 'in check', but rather our traits are magnified. For instance, it's rare for an IEE I've been involved with to criticize me for my Fe PoLR matter of fact bluntness, usually it's seen as amusing, which fits in with the idea that we have to modify our behavior less around duals, which can be different from personal development.
I'd say having a lot of money is a quality useful in attracting a mate, just like being handsome is, but not necessarily a quality required to attract a dual.
all I see is olimpia going on a posting spate with some pictures in a concerted effort to revive a certain image of gamma and adam strange and chae taking up the cause, each activated in their own way. what is it about pictures and suggestions of that kind that certain people intrinsically hop on board with
this playbook thing is pretty old and obvious though if you keep your eyes open and watch the patterns. Adam Strange you are a dumbass tool who is so easily manipulated its insane, and yet you make posts explaining why you're not going to steal your friends wife, as if such a thing needs to be reasoned out or that it should be considered to your credit, when its like you come across as half witted for even spending time on the idea. the tone you assume of being some kind of calculating intellect is so misplaced I almost feel bad for you. its literally like watching a retarded person reason
I said I would not try to steal my friend's wife because I specifically knew that some dumbass on this site would bring it up.
really it sounds like you said the only thing keeping you from doing so was shes fat. is this, is this the power of LIE?!
why don't you just buy a mail order bride and be done with it. by your criterion they're probably ESI anyway and if they're russian you can probably get some kind of warranty on that
I mean girls can't usually carry men like that so its just a statement of fact. wonder women being pretty smug for someone who knows they're a magic creature, which is precisely why she's called "wonder woman". if it was "average woman" doing the carrying this would make a lot more sense. if a woman said, you're pretty short "for a man" of 5'5 it would just be true of men not of women, if he retorted "heh, for a person, you mean"-- it would just be wrong, which makes the smugness kind of bizarre. I guess since she's got the power though in this situation she can do whatever she wants, which seems to be the real conceptual underpinning to all this, that guy isn't really in a position to argue so I guess he can take his rescue with a dose of condescending and bizarrely inaccurate moralizing if it means she'll continue saving his life. sort of like how abusive relationships are justified in the mind of the abuser because "he puts food on the table" or whatever power dynamics function to confer control. really this dude should just "be grateful." thanks wonder woman
What was weird to me is the last frame, like it's the kicker, it's the bottom line. BAM. You accidentally offended me. I win, bitch. It feels empty. But it's kind of a reversal of real life where usually being most unaffected makes you the winner even if you're the unaffected one because you're the aggressor.
I feel like a really awesome woman is a really awesome person in the sense that they're christlike in their sacrifice anyway, this is sort of the opposite of that, inasmuch as Christ "forgive them for they know not what they do", which would be like real strength, getting a quip in over some perceived sexism? is like not strength, its being bitchy over trivialities that you're on the wrong side of anyway. this makes her out to be a kind of moral child, which makes sense because its like power should be a consequence of virtue, when you give a kid a machine gun this is the sort of stuff that results-- "haha! I'll define the facts!" its like okay, just don't drop me, then go define the facts over there, please. that's the entire problem with these stories that frame superheroes as being essentially undeserving beneficiaries of super human power, it inherently puts into effect a moral universe where power is fundamentally unearned and arbitrary, which is essentially how immature people view the world. to a certain extent inequality is real, but the idea that virtue is conferred by chance and its whatever the strong say it is, is cynical beyond belief such that even the "superhero(ins)" that fight it are infected with this base perspective which lowers them to moral bullies, as we see here
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Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
I bet Wonder Woman has penis crushing orgasms.