The will to live

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Life is mundane. What gives you the will to keep going?

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Chocolate. And Coffee, of course, give me the will to keep going. Reasons to keep going are that I think tomorrow might be better than today.

Seriously, I just read an article about that. It talked about what happens when people get so depressed that they think life is not worth the effort. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think it said that people return to having an interest in life when they get angry about something. Not sure if that is the chicken or the egg, though. I'll see if I can find the article.

In my experience, after a large rearrangement in my life, I usually have to step back and rethink. This can look like depression, but it is not. At least, I think it is not. It is just reassessment, which takes some time, depending on the amount of information to reassess.

Revenge.

pain. i think every day that i can't go on with all this pointless shit. at work i want to tell everyone: you make me want to die.

It used to be for me that the best revenge was to keep on living and kicking. To not give in to his attempts to break my spirit.

Up until recently it included the affection and joy from a treasured family member, but that was just taken away from us.

Now it's so R won't have to deal with my death, and so my daughter will have emergency help if she needs it.
Plus, i suppose, I want to accomplish SOMEthing with my life. But that doesn't seem likely.

Don't think about it.

Sex.

The change in weather. I often have a good emotional change when the weather starts to get really cool or really warm.

Just waiting for things to get better. "Waiting is erotic." Even if they don't, well.. the human spirit to survive & thrive is strong.

Not acting/reacting like an emotional retard over stuff you see in the media/or making it your life is also so important. The elite want us to get our panties in a wad over sadism, who is currently transgender, who is racist, who is gay- who is this , who is that. It's just insanity that we don't need to feed into. This means not getting into petty arguements with people about television shows, not even reacting too offensively to racist shootings... I'm not saying its not okay to get upset over racism, but really - unless you lived through something yourself, do you really need an outside force just projecting your pain 24/7? Sure it's amusing but it also gets old after awhile. So, it's the happiness is a small warm place in your heart type of thing.

Also if it really was that painful, you wouldn't so gleefully run to the media to tell the world about it- so c'mon.

the question is , do we go on because we have the will to do so, or are we just doing the bare minimum and see what happens? #projectinprojectin

life comes in waves and lots of people are waiting for the next high. i think we should learn to cause it !

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Originally Posted by Starfall

The thought of sex is sickening to me lately. Most of the things I used to love are.

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What's going on?

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Originally Posted by Starfall

The thought of sex is sickening to me lately. Most of the things I used to love are.

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You are not the only IEI I have heard say something similar recently. Not that it is sickening but more uninteresting or they feel apathetic toward having sex or even other things they previously enjoyed. It is like it comes and goes in blocks. Just from talking about it with them, it is like when they are into it they are all in but when they are not the idea of it puts them off. I know you may have other reasons at this time though. :hug:

When I feel that life is mundane I tend to lose myself in mythology or magic. Then I start thinking there are a lot of things I might want to do or people I want to meet before I check out for good. I used to wake up wishing I hadn't but now, if I am in a state of apathy, I wake up and look for one thing that makes me want to go on. Sometimes it is a person other times it is just the ability to find some form of magical spark in the mundane. If I don't find it I find a way to create it myself by doing or saying something impulsive.

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Originally Posted by kalimera

the question is , do we go on because we have the will to do so, or are we just doing the bare minimum and see what happens? #projectinprojectin

life comes in waves and lots of people are waiting for the next high. i think we should learn to cause it !

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I fully agree, sev. I was going to say something similar: if life is too mundane for you (anybody), DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! :D
Unless you're enslaved or imprisoned, it's totally within your power!

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Originally Posted by Suz

I fully agree, sev. I was going to say something similar: if life is too mundane for you (anybody), DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! :D
Unless you're enslaved or imprisoned, it's totally within your power!

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Se demonstrative? :shock:

for me, there are lots of periods of mundaneness and then some periods where it feels like magic is real.

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Originally Posted by Aylen

Se demonstrative? :shock:

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:shrug: whatever it is, that's how i've always seen things, and it's how i live my life.

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Originally Posted by Starfall

What gives you the will to keep going?

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Life itself, and it's cyclic nature. Understanding that we're all just a part of the big circle of life.

Giving my self things to look forward to

Being responsible for the welfare of my family. That will keep me trucking forever.

That and kinda just being a happy person.

"those who need myths are indeed poor" — the thrill is implicit. but, "every day you don't commit suicide is a good day." it's that life is worth it precisely because there's nothing more, not that there's a bunch of reasons why one should commit suicide.

what I found during a relatively traumatic period of my life, was that this kind of existential indifference that I had was what really kept me going. the reality of the struggle forced me to acknowledge the essentials, and somehow I found a way out. but having gotten past that, I can only say that there isn't really any specific thing that makes it worth it (though I don't advocate suicide, really), it more or less comes down to a vibe that you either feel or you don't. but the pure contingency of it all is enough to base a kind of new faith on...

Well, you can't exactly enjoy death, so I just do what I'm supposed to do, because I'll get a little enjoyment here or there.

Hope.... because the best is to come...
also seeing the positive even in the most lost individuals...

This may sound egocentric (probably because it is), but I tend to think that the people in my life would be worse off without my insights. The more I think about that, though, I tend to just really not like the idea of dying. I'd worry that my family would destabilize and because of my Granny's prolonged grieving after an Uncle's death, I worry about the effects of another tragic death.

So I keep working. When I can't work on stuff, I watch documentaries that are uplifting or comedians who are silly, like Bill Bailey. Then the whole process of wanting to live comes back with time and I can resume whatever it is I need to do that I've been putting off doing.

just dont get fat ppl

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Life is mundane. What gives you the will to keep going?

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Trying to make the first part of the sentence wrong is what keeps me going. Actually my life is not mundane so don't know if that is even valid.

By making life less mundane. Life is a wave of ups and downs and I'm just on it for the ride.

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Originally Posted by McBain

By making life less mundane. Life is a wave of ups and downs and I'm just on it for the ride.

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I agree. It's hard for me to deal with the downs as I'm sure it is for everyone else but just knowing that life can't be super amazing all the time brings me some kind of relief. The only thing that really helps me is traveling a lot. I've been making it a point to take vacations about 5 times a year. And I take about one week off every month or two from work so I don't get stuck in a rut. I still have crappy days but that's a given.

I think where you live has a lot to do with how much you enjoy your life. Even if you're surrounded by friends and family you love, if you hate where you live, it sucks the life out of you. This is my current situation.

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Life is mundane. What gives you the will to keep going?

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The wandering instinct? Also, big -not mundane:p- goals & achievements, contributing something good/useful & helping others, havin' fun with some people; oh and meditating/spiritual stuff?...

I don't see any of that as mundane...

When I feel like I have less vitality, something to achieve, some competition or even an outright fight perks me up :)

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Originally Posted by Starfall

How do you make life feel good? What are your thought processes?

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It helps to believe you are a good person. Just because one or two (or every bastard I've met today) thinks that I am not worth the time of day, there are people who firmly believe I am worth their time. Granted, they mostly exist in my head, but they really like me. I like them, too.

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Life is mundane. What gives you the will to keep going?

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I have little things to look forward to every day, like eating food or seeing friends. Mundane doesn't bother me.
Sometimes the food is lousy and the friends are absent. That's okay, too. The food and company are likely to be better in a day or two.
Making something or being productive gives me a little thrill. That's more of the mundane.
I always have an inner joy that's NTR called "The Joy of the Lord." And I'm never really alone.
The more time I spend with God, the more exciting little surprises He gives me. I say I have "the luck of a hobbit."
I wouldn't necessarily say I have "the will to keep going." But neither do I have "the will to stop."
Death would be fine for me. Life is fine for me. I will always be fine. :content:

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Originally Posted by Starfall

How do you make life feel good? What are your thought processes?

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Although I could try to explain my though process I do not think it is something that can be applied to others. To put it in a very simple terms I think that it is mainly a state of mind (although is affected by external events) that one can change at will. That is what I try to do when I am not in a good place in life.

Overall what I do though is I live in constant change. I never stay in one place for long, I keep changing projects, my place of living, my personal life (soon I will have another child for example). Add to the mix some travel and meeting new people and you see that your life is so full of events that it is the opposite of mundane. I need change as one needs oxygen and I make sure my life is filled with it. Not that life becomes easy per se, it may even become extremely difficult - but never boring.

Constant change combined with a certain goal, no matter how mundane lets me experience a sense of purpose as well. Not that what I achieved is something substantial, but that I tried to reach it. It keeps me going places, I always strive for something better and once achieved I strive for more. And whatever I do I never try for perfection, just for "good enough".

I want to fulfill my nature. Consequentially, it means a desire to find interesting things and evolve with them.

^ Whoa... that post combined with that avatar..

Life does look mundane, when you look at it with a mundane mind. With a crystalline, trained mind life looks like a wonder, no matter where you look. Hell and heaven are both right here.

Letting go of all expectations and requirements was key for me. Sometimes I am still grabbed by them, but then I remind myself to let go of them again. Non-attachment to results.

I yearn for freedom and peace of mind. Also, freedom is not freedom. Real freedom is all internal. A person can feel free in a prison cell.

Don't take my word for it though, I wouldn't. It's great to experiment.

The things that I wish to achieve are my only drive.

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Life is mundane. What gives you the will to keep going?

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@Starfall :

Yea I feel like this sometimes. But then if you have an open mind you'll eventually see that life is anything but mundane. In fact how you see the world and perceive it depends entirely on how your mind is. A depressed mind is going to perceive the world as ugly, full of defects, full of dirt. An euphoric mind perceives the world as totally perfect and anything is possible, in between the two is the entrance to the trasformation of mundane into magical. Actually life is supposed to be magical to human beings but our minds are very dirty so... they perceive world and everything in it as dirty. Like a dirty mirror reflects dirty images so is the mind. The mirror once clean will reflect everything exactly as it is. You clean the mirror in many ways but the ones I found useful are in tibetan buddhism. You can go anyway spiritually, ultimately it's the same, the more love, compassion, wisdom, etc, - the better your experience of reality. A bad mood, a bad thought can make the mirror dirty. The less you cultivate bad moods and bad thoughts about yourself, others and the world, the more the mirror becomes clear again.

Videos games, web surfing, masturbation, not dying

I just figured: well, there's either no God and I just rot in the ground when I die, or God gets pissed off at me for rolling over, so I may as well do something or other. I tend to just go around and meet all walks of people, ask them questions, see how they're doing, listen to their stories, and pass on whatever I have learned in the meantime. Eventually you come across people who become dear to you, and wanting to be in good condition should they ever need you helps to add some fuel to the proverbial fire.

Learning and understanding the world, trying to find purpose and meaning, seeing the beauty in the world, laughter, joy, relationships with others.

Will to live has always been money, power, coffee, sex, love, goals. Lately I've lost my enjoyment in everything and I go to work and sleep. I'm hoping moving to a hotter climate will help. There's a lot keeping me from offing myself even tho I lose the will to live on and off.

This thread may be kinda old but the topic itself never gets old and I'm up for some late-night blather, so here it goes...

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Well, there are things I want to see how they develop or rather if they develop the way I predict or think they can go, there are things I want to (help) change. However, my 4-legged buddies and everything involved is certainly the #1. If you have something you'd die for or at least something that really has a meaning for you (that 'something' might change throughout life, though - even several times) it gives you so much strength that no matter how tough things get or how defeated you might feel when you go to bed in the evening, there's still something very much alive that automatically keeps you going one more round when you wake up the next morning.

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That's a difficult one because I don't think about those stuff. Short answer is, living and enjoying life instead of thinking or worrying about life LOL So, doing what I want, I'm interested in, is challenging, has a meaning for me. Trying out new things (only when you've tried something at least once you exactly know how you feel about it). Not wasting any time, energy, effort about things I have no control over and thus can't change anyway.

Not mulling over the past or worrying about the future. The past is the past, you can't change it anyway anymore, it's gone. And the future... nobody knows what the future holds. Needless to say that I really hate the very popular interview question "where do you see yourself in 5, 10 or 15 years?" Well, the answer is simple: 5, 10 or 15 years older. The rest I can tell when I'm there.

Not expecting things to be always easy. IMO, things that are actually worth doing are rarely easy and a good challenge - be it physically or mentally - is always welcome because it's damn relaxing and stimulating at the same time.

Turning hopeless situations, bad times or serious tough times into learning experiences by focusing on the situation and figuring out what can be done or I can do to resolve it, asking fundamental why? questions, facing facts that might have been unnoticed in more normal times and finally integrating all the new stuff. ....and so I may even be able to enjoy myself during those shitty periods of time.

Pushing my body to its limit and overcoming the challenges I set for myself. This's where I feel most alive and awake and those are the best moments of my life.

Enjoying the little things in life, like watching how resistent some people are to the smallest change, no matter how practical, or how much easier it will make things. This's amazing... and so damn entertaining. Or watching how quickly some people push for speed or even send themselves into a frenzy when things around them speed up or get hectic, as a result only creating new problems and even more chaos. Priceless. Or watching how some people seem to be completely unable to relax, wasting plenty of energy/time/effort for... well, nothing. ROFL Or that moment when you're in the waiting room at the doctors office, full of empty chairs, and the old lady with the newspaper has to sit right next to you. Or that moment you step outside into the sun after having your pupils dilated by the eye doctor, and it looks like you missed the nuclear holocaust by ten minutes.

IGNORING Facebook and all other destructive so-called social-media as much as possible for the sake of my sanity.

Not sitting around agonizing over the porpoise(sic) of life on this earth as if knowing it is of paramount importance because it gives direction and everything falls into place. BS!! We are not on earth for some God-given or whatever porpoise(sic) and now it's our damn duty to find it. Fact is, we are here on earth because one or two persons decided it...or perhaps even accidentally. This 'you need to know your porpoise(sic)' shit is kind of a trap anyway. When you don't think having a porpoise is of paramount importance, that it's not the way to your life-fulfillment, not knowing your porpoise(sic) is not an issue at all and you are happy with doing whatever you do and can enjoy the hell out of the ride. On the other hand, when you think life does have a porpoise(sic) and you think knowing it is essential to your life-fulfillment (as we're told), you'll definitely need (to know your) porpoise(sic), like no goal = no direction or no idea where to start = no motivation. TRAP ! Basically, the whole concept of 'life purpose' is an invention from humans in order to minimize the level of uncertainty that life brings along. Besides, who really knows who he is... who knows himself that good that you can actually tell what you're searching for in life. We probably all have certain ideas of who we are and what we want but self examination is probably (one of) the most difficult endeavor of our life. So, no need to sit around agonizing over the porpoise(sic) of life, doing endless futile soul-searching and only feel frustrated and bad because you can't figure it out... meanwhile life is passing you by. Nonetheless, I really like to ask "what do you think is your porpoise(sic) on this earth" because I fucking hate this question myself and most of the time people have a hard time answering it. LOL

Enjoying making the most out of my life. With that said, not comparing myself, my life, my journey or what I have or not have with others. It's prolly the worst you can do because you'll only focus more on what you don't have than enjoying what you have or made out of life. Also, no need to compete against our materialistic society that identifies its self-worth with getting/having a good job and making money or all the stuff they own because that's what people are taught from early age on. It's more important to search for the things you actually want than keeping up with the Joneses.

The never-ending process of learning how to school four-legged buddies from grass roots to the highest level makes life feel good. No matter how good you are, in horseback riding, regardless of which specific sport you choose, there will always be the one that will challenge you and make you feel like a greenhorn LOL

Surrounding myself with the right people. Some people or environments have the gift of sucking your spirit energy off you. With that said, send toxic (m)asses up the hill no matter who it is. Yes, even family members. Some say, s/he is your mother, father, sister, brother yada-yada-yada... so you don't have a choice and simply have to deal with them. Well, that's utterly BS !!! That's just what they're raised to believe.

Following my dreams and not allowing others to talk me out of it, as crazy as they may be. Always keep them in the back of my mind and make sure my steps bring me closer to it, albeit perhaps only slowly.

In case I've got it all wrong and may even have to rethink my career choice one day, I'll start a YouTube channel wherein I wear skimpy clothes, jump up and down a lot while caterwauling and rubbing random object on myself, then sit back and collect YouTube ad revenue.

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Well, it certainly is when you only get up to work full-time Monday through Friday in a job you fucking hate already waiting for the weekend to come on Monday 09:00 a.m. and/or spend the rest of the time on fucking forums or other social media, make dinner for the kids/s.o., do the laundry, watch boring TV movies/shows, finally head to the bathroom for an eagerly-anticipated shower to let the warm water soothe your aching bones and tired muscles, calming your soul and lulling yourself into a place where all dreams seem possible until your s.o. or cat/dog flushes the toilet... bringing you back down to earth with a jolt.

Anyway, if you see life as being mundane, it's your perception that is mundane. You may rest assured that a skydive will do a helluva job because the adrenaline rush alone will kill your mundane feelings. Unfortunately, you can assume that this won't last long. But life is far too long to be miserable and way too short to not be lived to the fullest... and by the end - it may sound cliche or annoying - life is what you (want to) make of it.

Granted, life fucking sucks at times and it's prolly safe to say that nobody yearns for tough times, or the moment when (you realize that) everything crashes right before you think you will hit the bulls eye or going through just one tough time after another. We also all prolly have sad, negative or depressed thoughts sometimes. But it's your choice how you want to look at things, how to handle or respond to (tough) situations or whether or not you want to make a choice at all and something. If you have sad, negative or depressed thoughts or feel down, shitty or whatever periodically and have no fucking idea why, or when you find yourself continually in bad situations you might need to get to the bottom of why you feel the way you do or why everything you do crashes or why you end up repeatedly in shitty situations or perhaps why you refuse to make a choice or take action at all. Even though you might get the impression at times that a person's life road is set up or you are kinda guided by a mysterious force, it's not. Whatever happens to you is almost always a mixture of your choices, your actions or its absense and external actions incl. your response to it. But since we all carry more or less garbage with us its quite possible that we make unconsciously bad choices in certain situations over and over again (habitually), and so possibly even create a future we don't want without even realizing simply because we stayed stuck in old habits and patterns.

Instead of focusing on the bad situation and perhaps even on the consequences of failing and get stuck and thus allowing your mind to take over and as a result ending up in a circle where you perceive everything around you in a bad light (and perhaps even get depressed), in such a moment relax and focus on the solution, on the present moment, on yourself, your body, your thoughts, your habitual reaction to the situation and something and you are able to clearly take in what actually happens – outside and within yourself. This is essential, since your perception dictates your response. Even though you may never be able to detect what it exactly is that leads you to do/think/feel/habitually react this or that way, you will be able to get control over how you react to situations.
Actually needless to say, there's a big difference between knowing something intellectually and being able to implement it when such a situation occurs. In case you do not belong to those who live in the moment anyway, you may need some practice :shrug:

Nonetheless, I'm not saying you can achieve anything in life if you simply try hard enough and want something... just enough and if you haven't achieved this or that then you just haven't tried hard enough, that's just waaaaay too easy!! There are too many things that are completely out of your control that might turn your life upside-down and there's nothing you can do about it but to learn to cope with it. Yes, life is tough but keep in mind when nothing seems to work and