What the hell is Fe after all?

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Originally Posted by Person

I know plenty of :Fe: types more focused on their personal relations with people and things than they are external expression, and visa versa for :Fi:, nor do I personally relate to this faux definition of :Fe: myself. I have considered that :Fi: types have a sense of real :Fe: though it's simply inferred by the motives of :Fi:, or held captive.

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Now it depends how we interpret "personal relations". Because one form of it is definitely Fi and I assumed you were referring to that. Of course there's an Fe form for it too.

I don't think objective, that is, extraverted Feeling goes without external expression much. That's part of it or it would not be so objective.

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In other words, this is not to say that :Fi: wouldn't want to deliberate on a question of truth, but its reason for doing so would be held captive by purely experiential motives

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I'm not following you here. Can you rephrase or elaborate on about this question of truth and experiential motives.

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that is unlike :Fe:, objectivity doesn't hold any sort of importance or eventual obligation when it processes feeling.

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Right. I also notice that the Fi states don't lend themselves to any sort of direct expression unlike the Fe states. This is not to say that Fi types cannot be expressive, of course. I however noticed differences in terms of how that expression is modulated.

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For this reason, Xe functions always seem obscured by some deeper motive to assimilate truth

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Again not following.

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These faux definitions of :Fe: and :Fi: may merely be correlated to the beneficial aims of objectivity and subjectivity

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Yeah that's what I said above.

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(...) but mimickry doesn't take on a plainly objective nature. You may blend in with the emotions of people for purely subjective reasons of appropriateness, that is, appropriateness is not solely an objective aim, but a way of acting and feeling part with people, and feeling normal and likeable, not merely empathizing and understanding others more deeply.

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I'm not sure why you think empathizing is specific to Fe or Fi?

@golden and I were having a discussion when I noticed her (she's ENFj type) talking about an experience that she had. It was surprising to me that she didn't convey any person feelings about a recent past job related situation. I would have added a lot of personal sentiment like "it made me feel very upset that situations turned out like this". I think she can relate to what I'm getting at. When she describes an event she writes mostly what happens in this story like fashion.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa

@golden and I were having a discussion when I noticed her (she's ENFj type) talking about an experience that she had. It was surprising to me that she didn't convey any person feelings about a recent past job related situation. I would have added a lot of personal sentiment like "it made me feel very upset that situations turned out like this". I think she can relate to what I'm getting at. When she describes an event she writes mostly what happens in this story like fashion.

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That's an interesting observation. It's true, I don't see any point in saying "It made me feel like this or that" -- in fact, that's difficult for me to do if the situation is important. I assume this would burden other people. Eventually I can get to my personal feelings about something, but it's not step one.

It's also true that Maritsa tends to talk about her personal slant on things as a starting point. She appears to get to the more objective, problem-solving mode later.

I also think it's fair to say this has been a point of friction between us in trying to communicate in the past.

I feel like I use both Fi and Fe so much, it can be hard to see where they separate. Raised by Fe-egos, mostly, and I tend to use a lot of casual, recreational Fe, but I will say that I notice that Fe-egos tend to be better at providing that warm, genuine caring spontaneously. Even some Ti-egos can do this very well. I feel like Fi is actually fairly cold. It's hard for me to comfort people unless I've already experienced exactly what they're going through. I'm not obsessed with expressing myself, and actually run into a lot of problems with younger Fi-egos who prioritize their feelings above literally everyone else's (especially to the extent of fucking other people over to get what they want, then providing weak justification), but ultimately, I often act without taking everything I should into account. I operate sort of with an understanding of how the person is feeling based on who I know them to be, not what's happening to them at that very second. Something I mentioned with an IEE friend is that Fi likes emotional privacy. I expect other people to tell me things they want to share, rather than expect me to invade what I view as their sacred privacy to snatch it out of them. If I know something means a lot to them, of course, I'll bring it up and happily share in their enthusiasm, but that's not my bread and butter. I know many Ti and Fe-egos who will only talk about themselves once you've asked, and for me, that's exhausting, because I never know if I'm asking the right "things" that will allow them to show themselves in the truest light.

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Originally Posted by Emmym

I feel like Fi is actually fairly cold.

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You just mean that outwardly yes?

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I operate sort of with an understanding of how the person is feeling based on who I know them to be, not what's happening to them at that very second.

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That's a good contrast yeah, I guess that means Fe is not as deeply personal as Fi due to not taking the person as an individual into account in the same way though both Fe and Fi are humane and Fe is of course personal in that sense.

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Originally Posted by Myst

You just mean that outwardly yes?




That's a good contrast yeah, I guess that means Fe is not as deeply personal as Fi due to not taking the person as an individual into account in the same way though both Fe and Fi are humane and Fe is of course personal in that sense.

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Yes, lol. I think Fe seems more cold on the inside. Out of all the Fe-egos I've been friends with, who all acted more or less the same around me, I think only a few felt any connection to me as a person. The thing is, you can't always tell who those are based on how affectionate they are.

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Originally Posted by Emmym

Yes, lol. I think Fe seems more cold on the inside. Out of all the Fe-egos I've been friends with, who all acted more or less the same around me, I think only a few felt any connection to me as a person. The thing is, you can't always tell who those are based on how affectionate they are.

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Right. About Fi being only cold outwardly.

Though I don't actually think Fe egos are cold on the inside. Even xLE's tell me they feel all warm and emotional. LxI's would be cold more often but not due to Fe, more like due to the lack of it :p

So when you say "cold on the inside" I think you just mean cold in a Fi sense. Or feeling connection to you as a person, again you mean that in a Fi sense. Fe has emotional connection too, it's just done differently from Fi.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Right. About Fi being only cold outwardly.

Though I don't actually think Fe egos are cold on the inside. Even xLE's tell me they feel all warm and emotional. LxI's would be cold but not due to Fe, more like due to the lack of it :p

So when you say "cold on the inside" I think you just mean cold in a Fi sense. Or feeling connection to you as a person, again you mean that in a Fi sense. Fe has emotional connection too, it's just done differently from Fi.

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When I say cold on the inside, I mean... something that's hard to put into words, lol. Generally, if I have anything to express about something, I have subjective feelings about it. Otherwise I'm just a participant. Fe people will express stuff more readily without having any subjective feelings, which can be confusing to me sometimes.

Example that happened a few years ago: I'm in a coffee shop with an IEI friend while we both use our laptops to catch up on homework. She keeps commenting on the music in a way that suggests she wants to leave. I ask if she hates the music, in which case, I'm totally fine with going somewhere else or just staying by myself if she would rather go home. She keeps insisting that no, she doesn't like or dislike the music, and it's not really distracting, she just wishes they played something else. Lol. To me, that's confusing, because the only way I wouldn't be able to tune music out is if I really hated it or it was too loud. Maybe not the best example but it came to mind.

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Originally Posted by Emmym

When I say cold on the inside, I mean... something that's hard to put into words, lol. Generally, if I have anything to express about something, I have subjective feelings about it. Otherwise I'm just a participant. Fe people will express stuff more readily without having any subjective feelings, which can be confusing to me sometimes.

Example that happened a few years ago: I'm in a coffee shop with an IEI friend while we both use our laptops to catch up on homework. She keeps commenting on the music in a way that suggests she wants to leave. I ask if she hates the music, in which case, I'm totally fine with going somewhere else or just staying by myself if she would rather go home. She keeps insisting that no, she doesn't like or dislike the music, and it's not really distracting, she just wishes they played something else. Lol. To me, that's confusing, because the only way I wouldn't be able to tune music out is if I really hated it or it was too loud. Maybe not the best example but it came to mind.

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Interesting contrast...

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Originally Posted by Emmym

When I say cold on the inside, I mean... something that's hard to put into words, lol. Generally, if I have anything to express about something, I have subjective feelings about it. Otherwise I'm just a participant. Fe people will express stuff more readily without having any subjective feelings, which can be confusing to me sometimes.

Example that happened a few years ago: I'm in a coffee shop with an IEI friend while we both use our laptops to catch up on homework. She keeps commenting on the music in a way that suggests she wants to leave. I ask if she hates the music, in which case, I'm totally fine with going somewhere else or just staying by myself if she would rather go home. She keeps insisting that no, she doesn't like or dislike the music, and it's not really distracting, she just wishes they played something else. Lol. To me, that's confusing, because the only way I wouldn't be able to tune music out is if I really hated it or it was too loud. Maybe not the best example but it came to mind.

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I have a storehouse of examples. I'll try to dig one out from a journal. :)

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Originally Posted by Kim

In a relationship with an SLI, I am not expected to change his emotional state. Ideally I listen to the problem and offer possible scenarios as to why it's there and how it can be solved. That also means I want to know what exactly the problem is. It's all about problem solving and bringing things back to a comfortable normal. SLI is not at all comforted by attempts to lighten the mood. At best it's a distraction from the issue. At worst they feel it minimizes the problem at hand and feel disrespected (Fe PoLR).

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Spot on. Fe valuers tend to find it impossible to grasp how I find that attitude disrespectful and offensive. They get surprised when I react badly to what they perceive to be their friendly and helpful attitude. And it's hard to explain this to someone who appears to be genuinely clueless (which is how a lot of Fe/Ti extroverts appear to me) about how what they're doing affects me in a negative way.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa

I have a storehouse of examples. I'll try to dig one out from a journal. :)

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I could probably think of more if I sat and racked my brain over it but lately I'm too tired, lol. I definitely notice it when it's happening, though.

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Originally Posted by golden

In my everyday life, Fe is far more complicated because life outside the limits of the artificial theater experience is itself more complex, and there (1) I tend to "apply" Fe to everything, even things that might be more easily digested with other information elements, and am far less aware of it because it colors everything in a way that seems natural

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Can you give examples of things where you do Fe where other IEs would be more fitting?

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Originally Posted by Emmym

When I say cold on the inside, I mean... something that's hard to put into words, lol. Generally, if I have anything to express about something, I have subjective feelings about it. Otherwise I'm just a participant. Fe people will express stuff more readily without having any subjective feelings, which can be confusing to me sometimes.

Example that happened a few years ago: I'm in a coffee shop with an IEI friend while we both use our laptops to catch up on homework. She keeps commenting on the music in a way that suggests she wants to leave. I ask if she hates the music, in which case, I'm totally fine with going somewhere else or just staying by myself if she would rather go home. She keeps insisting that no, she doesn't like or dislike the music, and it's not really distracting, she just wishes they played something else. Lol. To me, that's confusing, because the only way I wouldn't be able to tune music out is if I really hated it or it was too loud. Maybe not the best example but it came to mind.

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Yeah I have had similar scenarios with EII. Its as though expressing some kind of opinion is making some kind of definitive statement about it, and that from their point of view I/and or they/ need to change the situation. This is very Fi/Si orientation. Its like this opinion is an actual "thing" to them (static field of attraction repulsion).

Its one of the reasons I immediately hold my tongue, A LOT, around EII in favour of maintaining the peaceful dynamic (Fe approach), because it is just easier then making waves. By making waves I mean activating their attention towards my attraction/repulsion activities (like the one example you came up with), and further, needing to change the situation in order to bring me a sense of homeostasis balance. It is a very humanitarian approach, because she wants me to be at a neutral, or happy state of being. What she/he fails to realize is that my "views" (thoughts/ feelings - what have you) are not indicative of how I will treat that object.

And of course I have subjective feelings about stuff - everybody does - regardless of sociotype. I don't see Fi as the soul informational element for subjective feelings.

introversion is low risk/reward, it seems. Negative politeness is perhaps Fi, positive politeness is perhaps Fe.

http://www.softpanorama.org/Social/T...liteness.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politeness_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politeness

I also recall some thread started by consenting adult yrs ago correlating Fe to emotional intelligence. Had the German dictator & Martin Luther King as examples.

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Originally Posted by wacey

Yeah I have had similar scenarios with EII. Its as though expressing some kind of opinion is making some kind of definitive statement about it, and that from their point of view I/and or they/ need to change the situation. This is very Fi/Si orientation. Its like this opinion is an actual "thing" to them (static field of attraction repulsion).

Its one of the reasons I immediately hold my tongue, A LOT, around EII in favour of maintaining the peaceful dynamic (Fe approach), because it is just easier then making waves. By making waves I mean activating their attention towards my attraction/repulsion activities (like the one example you came up with), and further, needing to change the situation in order to bring me a sense of homeostasis balance. It is a very humanitarian approach, because she wants me to be at a neutral, or happy state of being. What she/he fails to realize is that my "views" (thoughts/ feelings - what have you) are not indicative of how I will treat that object.

And of course I have subjective feelings about stuff - everybody does - regardless of sociotype. I don't see Fi as the soul informational element for subjective feelings.

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You've given be a lot to think about, wacey, lol. Everything you said is so true. It's made me think a lot about how Fi-egos use Fe and how Fe-egos use Fi, but I'll spare you the jumbled tangent lol. Summing up part of it, I've noticed how Fi-egos do what you described yourself doing, but ONLY on safe topics (ie when they already know the other person feels the same way they do), when their feelings are too strong to be ignored or when they feel like their opinion is relevant. Where I hit a wall with Fe-egos is usually when our opinions fail to sync up and I stop agreeing, and they feel like I'm not validating them. In my eyes, I'm just letting them vent while listening and not passing judgment (I don't like to judge people who are blowing off steam unless they're saying something really cruel on purpose), but failure to be on the same page is sometimes taken as hostility, especially by alpha SFs. I think LIEs and LSEs actually exhibit Fe a lot, but it's clumsy, like they're hoping someone will stand under them with a trampoline in case they fall down. ESIs and EIIs are equipped to use Fe sporadically to take part in the LXE Fe barrage, but we don't give those opinions weight until something we don't like is being forced on us. Anyway sorry for rambling lol.

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Originally Posted by Emmym

You've given be a lot to think about, wacey, lol. Everything you said is so true. It's made me think a lot about how Fi-egos use Fe and how Fe-egos use Fi, but I'll spare you the jumbled tangent lol. Summing up part of it, I've noticed how Fi-egos do what you described yourself doing, but ONLY on safe topics (ie when they already know the other person feels the same way they do), when their feelings are too strong to be ignored or when they feel like their opinion is relevant. Where I hit a wall with Fe-egos is usually when our opinions fail to sync up and I stop agreeing, and they feel like I'm not validating them. In my eyes, I'm just letting them vent while listening and not passing judgment (I don't like to judge people who are blowing off steam unless they're saying something really cruel on purpose), but failure to be on the same page is sometimes taken as hostility, especially by alpha SFs. I think LIEs and LSEs actually exhibit Fe a lot, but it's clumsy, like they're hoping someone will stand under them with a trampoline in case they fall down. ESIs and EIIs are equipped to use Fe sporadically to take part in the LXE Fe barrage, but we don't give those opinions weight until something we don't like is being forced on us. Anyway sorry for rambling lol.

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No worries its not rambling. You might be on to something. Remind me to come back to this.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Can you give examples of things where you do Fe where other IEs would be more fitting?

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Obvs Fe doesn't exist in a vacuum. But: Trying to assimilate math or contractual language with Fe seems pointless. Trying to make sense of how most types of law are practiced. Trying to generate ideas (Fe is a burden then). Caring for a sick person while emphasizing Fe ... no worky. Dealing with anyone who doesn't respond to Fe (as @Park described above) is certainly a situation where Fe has little utility; in that case, I can be painfully aware that Fe rubs someone the wrong way, but I don't have a whole lot else to offer, so I can even end up feeling humiliated by the expectation that I'm just supposed to turn off my core personality.

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Originally Posted by Lily

Loved your post :eyes:

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Thank you! :D

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Originally Posted by golden

Obvs Fe doesn't exist in a vacuum. But: Trying to assimilate math with Fe seems pointless.

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Did you actually try that? :D

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Originally Posted by Myst

Did you actually try that? :D

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Yeah, I suppose I did. It didn't work.

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Originally Posted by golden

Yeah, I suppose I did. It didn't work.

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How did you try? If you can describe this somehow :D

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Originally Posted by Myst

How did you try? If you can describe this somehow :D

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I was waiting for that question.

Geometry. Getting hung up the human applications of geometry and who devised it (rather than just doing the fucking homework until it made sense). Asking the teacher all kinds of "interesting" questions, being a general pest, but charming the teacher into thinking I was oh-so-smart and that she was teaching it in a way that was less than ideal for me.

Guess how much geometry I learned? More than you might think ... I would wait until a few days before my final exams for math classes, then take my textbook and stare at the instruction pages until something clicked, then make an A or B on my exams in order to pass.

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Originally Posted by wacey

No worries its not rambling. You might be on to something. Remind me to come back to this.

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Was thinking more about it and wanted to add that the Fe behavior of expressing moods without them a direct call for action seems to be anathema to Fe-polrs and their duals. I see my SEE brother fighting about this with our ESE mom all the time. Whereas I and my other brothers (EII and LSI) humor her various moods, the SEE reacts bitterly, sometimes becoming almost hostile towards them. In many cases she's just expressing a mood in combination with Ni-polr. One has the option to not hurry to satisfy it (though growing up, this wasn't the case for any of us--as Ni polr loves to say, you're either with me or against me, and their duals have to be strong to put up with that nonsense) but the SEE takes it personally whenever it's directed at him.

Example: if one of us were to walk through the door with something we're munching on, if it's something she might be in the mood for (not specifically a favorite food or anything) she'll express disappointment that "no one thought about her." In the worst case, you just have to brush her off and let her mope about it, but generally it's more or less playful. "GASP! You didn't think about ME?!" EIEs do it too, just not about food, lmao. Whereas I and the EII would playfully snap something back before offering to share, and the LSI might say, "No, sorry," this has the potential to send the SEE into a rage and make him preachy. "You can't just expect people to know what you want! You have to ask people for things! If you don't, you don't deserve to complain! Stop dragging other people down!" Etc etc. I've also seen IEEs do something similar, except it's more like they get progressively more tense until they snap.

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Originally Posted by golden

Obvs Fe doesn't exist in a vacuum. But: Trying to assimilate math or contractual language with Fe seems pointless. Trying to make sense of how most types of law are practiced. Trying to generate ideas (Fe is a burden then). Caring for a sick person while emphasizing Fe ... no worky. Dealing with anyone who doesn't respond to Fe (as @Park described above) is certainly a situation where Fe has little utility; in that case, I can be painfully aware that Fe rubs someone the wrong way, but I don't have a whole lot else to offer, so I can even end up feeling humiliated by the expectation that I'm just supposed to turn off my core personality.

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The way I interact with some Fe's that I'm attracted to or fond of for one reason or another, is I would routinely criticize and be cold towards them, making them think I can't stand them, and then out of the blue (as they see it) I would do something very thoughtful and/or affectionate that makes their jaws drop.

And that's when Fi triumphs.

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Originally Posted by golden

That's an interesting observation. It's true, I don't see any point in saying "It made me feel like this or that" -- in fact, that's difficult for me to do if the situation is important. I assume this would burden other people. Eventually I can get to my personal feelings about something, but it's not step one.

It's also true that Maritsa tends to talk about her personal slant on things as a starting point. She appears to get to the more objective, problem-solving mode later.

I also think it's fair to say this has been a point of friction between us in trying to communicate in the past.

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It does burden LSI especially a lot. Even when my SEI nephew expresses his personal feelings about things crying and seeking comfort from his father (LSI) he just doesn't know what to say or do. He told his son "dear, I wish that you would stop crying less" it was so odd and surprising to me. I would have asked for a further explanation and delving into the matter. My bf is LSE he too doesn't like how Fi emotional expression is a "downer" too. He will attempt at cheering up or will keep quiet and listen.

I don't like the cheerful mood thing, although it is SOMETIMES there.

I rather like Fe to be a certain way of dealing with people, strong norms and values, and also a sort of protector of these values. And it can be forceful too Always through emotions.

Well, it is something that gets data from outside sources. At least for me I tend to put much emphasis on external expression in people. Since I don't usually see the importance to focus on life's little intricate relations it makes me fail in matters of psychological distance. On the other hand I have seen Fi to be too inhibited on this when it comes to possible positive results.

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Originally Posted by Park

And it's hard to explain this to someone who appears to be genuinely clueless (which is how a lot of Fe/Ti extroverts appear to me) about how what they're doing affects me in a negative way.

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I can say that about Te... :muaha: It is rather important to give space for real thinking.
In general all Xi vs Xe.

I think there is a lot of unnecessary stereotype going on about extroverted ethics.
Extroverted types in general tend to express more excitement, cheerfulness and upbeat active minds than introverts.
There's also an enneagram type that needs to be taken into account. For example a typical type 4, Fe user would hardly fall into the stereotype of happy go lucky character.


I'd describe Fe as the ability to perceive other people's mood and emotion. It is about being aware of how others feel and fitting yourself in other people's shoes. A lot of the times it is also about being an emotional sponge and being highly affected by the happening around you in the sensitive way. Fe is about adjusting your own self, creating an atmosphere that everyone can enjoy, because you know what people like or dislike you simply work with their reactions and adapt.


I am quite the right opposite of the cheerful personality. I am moody, gloomy and I enjoy the dark sides of people and their feelings. I enjoy what's hidden beneath the idea of being happy and always search for the raw and maybe even ugly feelings to a point. Simply because they usually seem to be hidden and I am atracted to what's hidden.. I don't have a better explenation.

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Originally Posted by Fay

Ifitting yourself in other people's shoes. .

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Fitting shoes and smelling their foot sweat is Fi (and apparently Si). If I have understood it correctly. Imaginative internal state.
Well, it depends what you mean by that.

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Originally Posted by Fay

I am quite the right opposite of the cheerful personality. I am moody, gloomy and I enjoy the dark sides of people and their feelings. I enjoy what's hidden beneath the idea of being happy and always search for the raw and maybe even ugly feelings to a point. Simply because they usually seem to be hidden and I am atracted to what's hidden.. I don't have a better explenation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HbYScltf1c

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Originally Posted by Kim

Just some observations that are related to Fe.

In a relationship with an SLI, I am not expected to change his emotional state. Ideally I listen to the problem and offer possible scenarios as to why it's there and how it can be solved. That also means I want to know what exactly the problem is. It's all about problem solving and bringing things back to a comfortable normal. SLI is not at all comforted by attempts to lighten the mood. At best it's a distraction from the issue. At worst they feel it minimizes the problem at hand and feel disrespected (Fe PoLR).

In a relationship with an SLE I am expected to make the present moment in which he is troubled about a problem less bad (Fe). He likes it when I distract him, make him feel better through "manipulating" the emotional atmosphere. My role is not about problem solving, it's about making him feel better in the moment through Fe (and, if necessary, providing a vision of how things will progress because he is not great at assessing the most effective timeline of action - Ni).

I have to think about what might work best and it's trial and error sometimes. Fe-dominants just know how to influence people's emotions. It's astonishing to see how my ESE friend can make the most diverse group feel comfortable and happy.

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Totally agree.

An SLI will be annoyed or even outright angered, and at the very least somewhat bewildered or frustrated, by an emphasis on lightening the mood, whether it's overtly done or even just being what they perceive as too nice in a situation. The phrase, "An ugly truth is better than a pretty lie [or a prettied-up hard truth] comes to mind."

One thing I noticed in myself, having grown up w a Beta (and..."eccentric") father is that I was in the habit of... performing, in a way -- I felt on a not wholly conscious level that it was up to me to lighten the mood when bad things happened, or even in very serious situations, but it was awkward and didn't feel right. I later realized, after being called out by an irritated SLI, what I was doing and, once aware of it, was able to break the habit. My (eccentric, ntr) SLE dad required that kind of thing; Fe-devaluing types don't.

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Originally Posted by Fay

I think there is a lot of unnecessary stereotype going on about extroverted ethics.
Extroverted types in general tend to express more excitement, cheerfulness and upbeat active minds than introverts.
There's also an enneagram type that needs to be taken into account. For example a typical type 4, Fe user would hardly fall into the stereotype of happy go lucky character.


I'd describe Fe as the ability to perceive other people's mood and emotion. It is about being aware of how others feel and fitting yourself in other people's shoes. A lot of the times it is also about being an emotion ional sponge and being highly affected by the happening around you in the sensitive way. Fe is about adjusting your own self, creating an atmosphere that everyone can enjoy, because you know what people like or dislike you simply work with their reactions and adapt.


I am quite the right opposite of the cheerful personality. I am moody, gloomy and I enjoy the dark sides of people and their feelings. I enjoy what's hidden beneath the idea of being happy and always search for the raw and maybe even ugly feelings to a point. Simply because they usually seem to be hidden and I am atracted to what's hidden.. I don't have a better explenation.

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Yes...all Fx types do this, but Fe-egos are interested on a conscious level, and can and do influence it purposefully. Fe doesn't have to mean cheeriness; it has to do w changing emotions and particularly the display of emotions across the spectrum.

EXEs are constantly aware of the prevailing mood and/or emotional undertones and use Si or Ni to affect the mood in the short- or long-term as they see fit; XEIs see the world through their base function, Si or Ni, and seek to affect the mood either short- or long-termed they see fit to serve the purposes of their base function.

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Originally Posted by Fay

I'd describe Fe as the ability to perceive other people's mood and emotion. It is about being aware of how others feel and fitting yourself in other people's shoes. A lot of the times it is also about being an emotional sponge and being highly affected by the happening around you in the sensitive way. Fe is about adjusting your own self, creating an atmosphere that everyone can enjoy, because you know what people like or dislike you simply work with their reactions and adapt.

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This is not really Fe or at least you put a lot of Fi in it. Putting yourself in other people's shoes for example is more Fi. Also, you are consciously focused on what people personally like and dislike and you adjust things to that. This again sounds like introverted feeling, not extraverted, not objective. The rest can be Fe too, sure.

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I am quite the right opposite of the cheerful personality. I am moody, gloomy and I enjoy the dark sides of people and their feelings. I enjoy what's hidden beneath the idea of being happy and always search for the raw and maybe even ugly feelings to a point. Simply because they usually seem to be hidden and I am attracted to what's hidden.. I don't have a better explanation.

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This isn't Fe specific either. Maybe enneagram 4 as you mentioned...