Correlations between Socionics and Enneagram types (old discussions)
Is there a connection between that and this? Some are obvious, some not. INFJs would be twos? Twos sound like me but not the regular INFJ.
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Type 2 The Helper
Abusing food and over-the-counter medications. Bingeing, especially on sweets and carbohydrates. Over-eating from feeling "love-starved." Hypochondria to look for sympathy.
:lol: :lol: True that.
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Type 4 The Individualist
Over-indulgence in rich foods, sweets, alcohol to alter mood, to socialize, and for emotional consolation. Lack of physical activity. Bulimia. Depressants. Tobacco, prescription drugs, or heroin for social anxiety. Cosmetic surgery to erase rejected features.
This too though.
Correlations between Enneagram and Socionics Types
Is this correlation accurate:
ENFj - 1
ESFj - 2
ExTp - 3
INFx - 4
INTx - 5
ENFp - 6
ISFp - 6
ISxj - 7
ESFp - 7
ENTj - 8
ESTj - 9
ISTp - 9
Re: Ennergram and socionics
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Originally Posted by Hugo
Is this correlation accurate:
ENFj - 1
ESFj - 2
ExTp - 3
INFx - 4
INTx - 5
ENFp - 6
ISFp - 6
ISxj - 7
ESFp - 7
ENTj - 8
ESTj - 9
ISTp - 9
Some things are correct about that list. Perhaps the most certain mistake is "ISXj -7". The ISFj is a 6, many ISTjs are 1s. Most ISFps are probably 9s, and I have never understood why some people claim that ESTjs are 9s. That doesn't make much sense to me. Can some one explain where that comes from?
Re: Ennergram and socionics
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by Hugo
Is this correlation accurate:
ENFj - 1
ESFj - 2
ExTp - 3
INFx - 4
INTx - 5
ENFp - 6
ISFp - 6
ISxj - 7
ESFp - 7
ENTj - 8
ESTj - 9
ISTp - 9
Some things are correct about that list. Perhaps the most certain mistake is "ISXj -7". The ISFj is a 6, many ISTjs are 1s. Most ISFps are probably 9s, and I have never understood why some people claim that ESTjs are 9s. That doesn't make much sense to me. Can some one explain where that comes from?
From the associated Oldham style "Leisurely"
socionics correlations with enneagram
Obviously, the systems are not entirely compatible and are based on different things (aspects of reality vs. motivations), but I think there are some loose correlations, more so with some types than others.
Disclaimer: I'm new to enneagram. These perceptions of enneagram types are based on my current understanding of them, as are the correlations with Socionics.
1: IJ (and to a lesser extent: rationality, valued Fe, Se PoLR)
2: Si, Fe (and to a lesser extent: valued Si, valued Fe)
3: Fe, valued Se (and to a lesser extent: EJ, valued Fe, extroversion)
4: Ni dominance (and to a lesser extent: introversion, IP)
5: Ti (and to a lesser extent: Ne, Ti dominance, valued Ti)
6: Fi (and to a lesser extent: ethical, valued Fi, Fi Hidden Agenda)
7: Se, EP (and to a lesser extent: Fi PoLR)
8: Te, EJ, valued Se (and to a lesser extent: Se Hidden Agenda)
9: Si, ethical (to a lesser extent: introversion, valued Si, emotive, intuitive)
Sooooo...
ENTp: 7, 5w4
ISFp: 2w3, 9
INTj: 5w4
ESFj: 2w3, 3w2, 9w8
ESTp: 7w8
INFp: 4w3, 4w5
ISTj: 1, 5
ENFj: 3w4
ENTj: 8w9, 8w7
ISFj: 6, 1
INTp: 4w5, 6w5
ESFp: 6w7, 7w6
ESTj: 9w8, 3w2
INFj: 9w1, 1w2, 1w9
ISTp: 6w7
ENFp: 6w7, 7w6, 9w1, 2w1
Correlations between Enneagram and Socionics Types
Rough guide:
1w9 ESTj
1w2 ESTj, ESFj
2w1 ESFj
2w3 ESFj
3w2 ENFj
3w4 ENTj, ESTj
4w3 INFj, INFp
4w5 INFp, INFj
5w4 INFj, INTp
5w6 ISTj, INTj
6w5 INTj, ISTj
6w7 ESFp
cp6w5 ENTj
cp6w7 ESFj
7w6 ENFp, ESFp
7w8 ESTp
8w7 ENTp
8w9 INTj
9w8 ISTp
9w1 ISFp
Please note that all are speculations, and that it's nigh-on impossible to correlate socionics and the Enneagram, as it is almost impossible to accurately correlate MBTI and the Enneagram. This is merely for speculative, theoretical and discussion-/debate-generating purposes.