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socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

1

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

2

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

1

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

0

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

0

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

2

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

1

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

3

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

1

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

3

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

2

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

3

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

1

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

1

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

1

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

0

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

0

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

0

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

0

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

0

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

0

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

0

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

0

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

0

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

2

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

1

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

3

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

3

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

3

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

2

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

1

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

2

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

2

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

3

10. I prefer to meet in private.

1

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

3

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

3

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

2

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

3

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

3

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

2

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

1

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

3

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

1

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

3

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

1

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

1

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

2

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

2

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

1

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

1

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

2

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

2

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

0

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

1

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

1

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

1

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

2

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

2

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

3

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

3

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

1

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

1

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

1

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

3

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

1

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

3

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

2

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

2

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

2

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

3

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

1

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

2

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

2

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

0

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

2

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

2

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

1

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

1

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

3

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

2

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

2

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

3

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

2

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

2

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

1

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

3

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

3

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

2

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

1

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

3

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

2

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

2

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

3

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

3

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

1

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

1

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

2

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

3

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

1

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

3

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

1

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

1

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

2

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

2

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

2

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

2

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

3

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

3

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

3

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

1

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

2

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

2

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

3

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

2

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

2

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

3

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

2

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

2

9. I can easily understand algebra.

2

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

2

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

1

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

1

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

3

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

1

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

2

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

2

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

2

10. I prefer to meet in private.

1

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

2

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

1

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

2

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

2

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

3

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

2

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

2

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

0

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

1

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

2

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

2

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

1

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

1

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

1

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

2

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

3

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

3

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

2

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

3

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

2

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

3

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

2

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

2

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

1

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

2

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

1

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

1

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

3

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

2

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

0

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

1

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

1

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

2

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

0

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

0

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

1

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

1

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

1

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

1

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

1

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

2

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

1

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

1

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

2

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

2

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

1

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

0

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

Ne: 15
Ni: 10
Se: 23
Si: 9
Te: 14
Ti: 8
Fe: 10
Fi: 7

Trying to be SLE instead of ILE now? :lol:

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Originally Posted by Myst

Trying to be SLE instead of ILE now? :lol:

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I'll be whatever it is I want to be. :p

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

3

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

3

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

3

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

2

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

1

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

2

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

2

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

2

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

3

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

2

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

3

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

2

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

2

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

2

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

2

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

3

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

0

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

1

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

2

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

2

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

1

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

2

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

3

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

3

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

1

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

1

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

2

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

3

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

2

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

3

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

2

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

2

9. I can easily understand algebra.

3

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

2

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

1

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

0

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

3

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

0

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

1

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

1

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

2

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

3

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

2

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

2

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

2

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

2

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

1

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

2

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

0

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

0

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

0

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

0

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

0

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

0

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

0

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

0

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

0

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

0

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

0

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

0

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

0

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

0

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

0

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

0

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

0

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

0

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

0

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

0

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

0

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

0

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

0

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

0

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

0

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

0

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

0

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

0

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

0

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

0

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

0

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

0

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

0

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

0

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

0

10. I prefer to meet in private.

0

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

3

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

3

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

3

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

3

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

3

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

3

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

3

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

3

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

2

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

2

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

2

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

3

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

0

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

3

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

3

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

1

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

1

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

1

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

2

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

2

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

3

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

3

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

2

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

3

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

3

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

0

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

3

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

3

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

3

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

3

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

3

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

3

9. I can easily understand algebra.

2

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

3

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

2

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

3

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

1

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

2

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

1

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

0

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

2

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

2

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

2

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

3

10. I prefer to meet in private.

3

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

3

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

3

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

3

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

2

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

3

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

2

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

2

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

0

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

1

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

2

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

2

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

2

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

3

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

2

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

1

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

3

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

2

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

3

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

3

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

1

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

0

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

1

9. I can easily understand algebra.

2

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

3

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

1

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

2

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

1

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

2

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

3

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

2

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

2

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

2

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

1

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

1

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

1

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

0

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

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Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

3

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

1

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

1

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

2

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

2

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

0

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

3

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

3

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

3

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

1

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

2

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

3

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

1

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

1

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

3

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

1

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

3

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

2

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

3

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

3

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

3

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

3

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

2

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

1

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

1

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

3

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

1

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

1

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

2

10. I prefer to meet in private.

3

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Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

3

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

1

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

1

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

2

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

2

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

0

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

3

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

3

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

3

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

1

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

2

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

3

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

1

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

1

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

3

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

1

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

3

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

2

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

3

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

3

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

3

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

3

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

2

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

1

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

1

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

3

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

1

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

1

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

2

10. I prefer to meet in private.

3

Total:

Ne: 17
Ni: 26
Se: 10
Si: 11
Te: 12
Ti: 10
Fe: 23
Fi: 15

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Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

3

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

2

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

3

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

2

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

1

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

0

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

2

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

3

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

3

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

2

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

3

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

2

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

2

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

1

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

2

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

1

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

0

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

1

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

2

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

2

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

3

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

1

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

3

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

2

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

1

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

2

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

2

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

2

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

1

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

3

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

1

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

0

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

3

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

2

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

1

9. I can easily understand algebra.

3

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

3

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

3

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

1

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

3

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

3

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

3

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

3

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

3

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

3

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

1

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

3

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

3

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

3

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

2

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

2

10. I prefer to meet in private.

3

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Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

0

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

0

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

0

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

0

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

0

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

0

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

0

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

0

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

0

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

0

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

0

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

0

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

0

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

0

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

0

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

0

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

0

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

0

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

0

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

0

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

0

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

0

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

0

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

0

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

0

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

0

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

0

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

0

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

0

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

0

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

0

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

0

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

0

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

0

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

0

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

0

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

0

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

0

10. I prefer to meet in private.

0

I thought I was SEI. These results are weird. Lol.

Fi - 27
Fe - 23
Si/Ti - 22
Ni - 12
Te/Ne - 10
Se - 4

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

1

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

0

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

2

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

1

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

1

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

3

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

2

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

2

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

1

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

3

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

0

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

3

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

1

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

1

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

1

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

1

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

1

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

0

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

0

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

2

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

1

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

3

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

1

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

1

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

2

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

2

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

3

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

1

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

1

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

1

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

2

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

2

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

2

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

1

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

1

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

2

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

2

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

2

9. I can easily understand algebra.

1

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

1

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

1

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

1

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

2

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

1

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

1

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

2

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

1

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

2

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

1

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

2

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

3

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

0

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

3

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

3

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

3

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

2

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

2

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

1

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

1

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

3

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

1

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

0

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

3

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

2

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

1

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

3

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

3

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

1

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

1

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

1

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

2

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

3

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

2

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

1

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

2

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

2

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

0

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

1

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

2

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

3

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

2

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

1

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

1

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

1

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

2

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

3

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

3

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

1

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

1

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

2

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

3

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

3

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

2

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

2

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

2

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

2

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

3

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

2

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

1

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

2

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

1

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

0

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

2

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

1

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

1

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

2

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

0

10. I prefer to meet in private.

1

Section A
1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.
3
2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.
2
3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.
3
4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.
2
5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.
2
6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.
1
7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.
3
8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.
2
9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.
1
10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.
3

Section B
1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.
2
2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.
1 (Agree with the first part, not the second)
3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.
3
4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).
1
5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.
2
6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people.
1
7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.
2
8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.
2
9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.
0
10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).
1

Section C
1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.
1
2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.
1
3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.
2
4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.
1
5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.
2
6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.
0
7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.
1
8. I would like to be the first and break all records.
2
9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.
1
10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.
1

Section D
1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.
1
2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.
2
3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)
0
4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.
1
5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).
2
6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.
0
7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.
2
8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.
2
9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.
2
10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.
2

Section E
1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.
1
2. I treat people harshly, but fair.
1
3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.
3
4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.
1
5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.
1
6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.
0
7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.
2
8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.
1
9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.
2
10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.
1

Section F
1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.
1 (Most of this fits, I don't know that I'd call myself "mature" though...)
2. I love order, systems and sequences.
3
3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.
2
4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.
2
5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.
2
6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.
3
7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.
3
8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.
2
9. I can easily understand algebra.
1
10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.
1

Section G
1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.
1
2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.
2
3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.
2
4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.
1
5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.
2
6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.
0
7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.
1
8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.
1
9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.
3
10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.
1

Section H
1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.
1
2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.
2
3. I prefer to be a homebody.
1
4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.
3
5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.
1
6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.
1
7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.
1
8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.
3
9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.
2
10. I prefer to meet in private.
2

My scoring was mostly consistent with ILE, with Ne and Ti as the two highest functions, but there was a weirdly high Fi. I'd chalk it up to weird scoring, a huge chunk of the Fi section really sounds like Si valuation more than anything. Some other questions also sounded like they could be any number of functions, and often better matched something else than what they were classified under. It seems like a pretty bad test, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

My scoring was mostly consistent with ILE, with Ne and Ti as the two highest functions, but there was a weirdly high Fi. I'd chalk it up to weird scoring, a huge chunk of the Fi section really sounds like Si valuation more than anything. Some other questions also sounded like they could be any number of functions, and often better matched something else than what they were classified under. It seems like a pretty bad test, honestly.

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Yeah some questions are not very specific to IEs there. What kind of issue do you have with algebra btw if I can ask?

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Originally Posted by Myst

Yeah some questions are not very specific to IEs there. What kind of issue do you have with algebra btw if I can ask?

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It's the style of math I'm worst at. I think a huge part of it is that beyond the basic (middle school/early high school) level, my teacher was bad at explaining the "why." Due to years of shitty teachers, it on some fundamental level often seems like a series of vague formulas with little reason to why they move around the way they do. My middle school math teacher was awesome at socratically helping his students figure that out, plus in elementary algebra that often just comes naturally by simple logic, so I'm much better with its basics.

I'm much better with geometry and calculus. Where I can visualize and things intuitively just make sense, and where the logic has a very coherent structure plus you get to work with fun graphs respectively. Also I'm very good at analyzing statistics, for similar reasons to calculus. I thought I was bad at math, "besides geometry," until I discovered those latter two.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

I'd chalk it up to weird scoring, a huge chunk of the Fi section really sounds like Si valuation more than anything. Some other questions also sounded like they could be any number of functions, and often better matched something else than what they were classified under. It seems like a pretty bad test, honestly.

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Indeed. Honestly I think that they genuinely confused Fi and Si... I mean:

Section D
1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.
2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.
3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)
4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.
5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).
6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.
7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.
8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.
9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.
10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

Its hilarious. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

It's the style of math I'm worst at. I think a huge part of it is that beyond the basic (middle school/early high school) level, my teacher was bad at explaining the "why." Due to years of shitty teachers, it on some fundamental level often seems like a series of vague formulas with little reason to why they move around the way they do. My middle school math teacher was awesome at socratically helping his students figure that out, plus in elementary algebra that often just comes naturally by simple logic, so I'm much better with its basics.

I'm much better with geometry and calculus. Where I can visualize and things intuitively just make sense, and where the logic has a very coherent structure plus you get to work with fun graphs respectively. Also I'm very good at analyzing statistics, for similar reasons to calculus. I thought I was bad at math, "besides geometry," until I discovered those latter two.

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Interesting. Maths was always a very strong skill of mine but geometry would be the exception, I could do it fine in school but not on the level of serious competitions unlike other maths areas and I absolutely hated it - I actually noticed my EII sister was a bit better than me at visual geometrical questions in some tests, while I would beat basically anyone in tasks in any other mathematical areas in school and many people in competitions (more serious ones beyond school level) without studying at all. I just don't have that "visual intuition", I would simply just see the concrete forms lol and to analyze them to solve them I had to utilize what I explicitly learned about geometry, which didn't work beyond a level in serious competitions (also because I didn't prepare for the geometry questions, lol).

From a Socionics pov some people could jump on this algebra issue of yours as "weak Te". I dunno how much it can be type related tho'. The geometry thing in my case is type related in terms of information processing (specifically low Ne got in the way for me there by being unable to look at inner properties of the concrete visual forms in front of me - unlike for other maths areas where I could just easily do strong Ti/Te with a bit of Niish intuition sometimes). I don't strictly relate it to the (far from perfect) function model beyond this though, doesn't mean that other LSIs couldn't have some side ability to somehow deal with geometry better. I have no idea but easily possible that this is an idiosyncrasy of mine.

Many Si questions in that test do line up well with the Si as described here:

"Epicurean - realistic, confident person. Configured to receive from a life all of its joys and pleasures. Gourmet, esthete, is not indifferent to the quality of things. It - nedemonstrativny leader. Active and energetic. Knows how to please people, carries them away. She knows what she wants and always achieves its goals through the power of will, tenacity and perseverance. The relationship is often stubborn and does not like objections. Inclined to arrange everything so that it is convenient to him. It does not always take into account the interests of others, but can be diplomacy and courtesy, if necessary. His power is manifested softly. Good sense of physical and material needs of others, and is able to take care of everyone. It is not enough self-critical and does not like criticism. Not averse on occasion to emphasize its advantages."

(The translation could be neater both for the test and for this description but I think the general themes can be seen: well-adjusted realism, sensuality, sensory pleasures, material comforts and with those a focus on physical needs in general, the person's power for handling tangible things being manifested softly compared to Se's power.)

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Originally Posted by Slugabed

Indeed. Honestly I think that they were genuinely confused by Fi and Si... I mean:

Section D
1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.
2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.
3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)
4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.
5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).
6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.
7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.
8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.
9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.
10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

Its hilarious. :lol:

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For sure. :lol:

Meanwhile, Section H:

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes. (I could see how this might be Fi-related, but it first and foremost sounds non-Se.)
2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements. (What does this have to do with Fi at all?)
3. I prefer to be a homebody. (Sounds way more Si-related, with a lot of confounding variables that'd make it a weak indicator at best of any type.)
4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want. (So does this. Also I think a lot of people would answer "yes" anyway because who couldn't use more sleep?)
5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others. (I guess. But "to be useful" muddles it.)
6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own. (Often this seems like it depends on the trouble, I think. I personally feel more deeply if I've faced similar, then I have that normal E6 urge to help out the person who seems like they're being beaten down on.)
7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances. (This sounds like weak Se.)
8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best. (This also sounds more Si.)
9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents. (Could see how it'd be related, again mostly sounds weak Se though.)
10. I prefer to meet in private. (This is at most a super-tentative indicator of Fi, it could have any number of causes. I think most introverts and many ambiverts would answer positively, me included.)

@Nanooka

Problem fixed:


Section D
1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.
2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.
3. I prefer to be a homebody.
4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.
5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.
6. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)
7. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.
8. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.
9. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.
10. I prefer to meet in private.


Section H
1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.
2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.
3. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.
4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.
5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).
6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.
7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.
8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.
9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.
10. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

Nope, still not fixed. The test is too bad to get an easy out like that. :indifferent:

Like honestly that "flashy and noisy spectacles like battle scenes" sounds like Fe and Se more than anything. A lot of people enjoy those things, it's not hugely type related, but I'm guessing a plurality of people who answer 3 will probably be Beta extratims or ESXx.

I also don't think Fi base types would usually describe themselves as liking to be the center of attention, which has nothing to do with pleasing others and isn't necessarily the same as infecting people with optimism. Neither of which, especially the latter, are things necessarily related to Fi either.

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5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

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6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

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7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

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8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

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I read elsewhere that Ne DS is a bit like this about wanting to be the centre of attention, idk, it doesn't make much sense to me.

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9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.
10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

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Well, compared to Se, maybe?

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

For sure. :lol:

Meanwhile, Section H:

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes. (I could see how this might be Fi-related, but it first and foremost sounds non-Se.)

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Ethics, introversion.

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2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements. (What does this have to do with Fi at all?)

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Idk, bad translation?

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3. I prefer to be a homebody. (Sounds way more Si-related, with a lot of confounding variables that'd make it a weak indicator at best of any type.)

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4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want. (So does this. Also I think a lot of people would answer "yes" anyway because who couldn't use more sleep?)

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Bad translation?...

I don't need more sleep btw.

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5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others. (I guess. But "to be useful" muddles it.)

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That's Fi. With a little Te maybe?

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6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own. (Often this seems like it depends on the trouble, I think. I personally feel more deeply if I've faced similar, then I have that normal E6 urge to help out the person who seems like they're being beaten down on.)

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Yeah this is Fi.

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7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances. (This sounds like weak Se.)

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Well, Ethics and introversion both strengthen this trait.

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8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best. (This also sounds more Si.)

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I don't think this is Si, but I don't know how this is in the Fi section, unless due to weak Te?

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9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents. (Could see how it'd be related, again mostly sounds weak Se though.)

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Fi alright.

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@Nanooka
These 3 things: enjoying being the center of attention, pleasing others and infecting with optimism, seems Fi to me. At least in my personal experience with IEEs , EIIs and SEEs.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

Nope, still not fixed. The test is too bad to get an easy out like that. :indifferent:

Like honestly that "flashy and noisy spectacles like battle scenes" sounds like Fe and Se more than anything. A lot of people enjoy those things, it's not hugely type related, but I'm guessing a plurality of people who answer 3 will probably be Beta extratims or ESXx.

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I see no problem with linking flashy spectacles stuff to Si, if it's meant as vivid sensations for consummation of them (Si) instead of acquiring or manipulating of objects (Se). (Btw also see post #428 above.)

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Originally Posted by Slugabed

@Nanooka
These 3 things: enjoying being the center of attention, pleasing others and infecting with optimism, seems Fi to me. At least in my personal experience with IEEs , EIIs and SEEs.

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I think SEEs and IEEs usually like being the center of attention, and the other two. But that's Fi as a creative function, with Fe-demonstrative.

It's pretty far from my experience with EIIs, they're more quiet. Only "pleasing others" and (calmly) "infecting with optimism" seem to usually describe them there. Neither "likes being the center of attention" nor "infecting with optimism" would describe most people I'd type ESI or fit most ESI descriptions, in addition to EIIs' introversion they usually seem more viscerally moody. If you take Reinins seriously (not everyone does), they have the negativist classification too.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Ethics, introversion.

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Avoidance of conflict and disputes could just as easily be simple avoidance of Se though. Se-devaluers, per every description I've read, won't gravitate to conflict.

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I see no problem with linking flashy spectacles stuff to Si, if it's meant as vivid sensations for consummation of them (Si) instead of acquiring or manipulating of objects (Se).

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The specific examples given were things like battle scenes, aggressive team sports, other loud demonstrations. Enjoyment of these seems like it would have no real relationship to Si, and if anything what they'd match best is Beta quadra values. FeSe, high on raucous energy and exhilarated by the tension. Even there only weakly, there's a wide number of reasons to enjoy these things and most people do to a pretty large degree.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

Avoidance of conflict and disputes could just as easily be simple avoidance of Se though. Se-devaluers, per every description I've read, won't gravitate to conflict.

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It'll fit an EII more than an ESI-Se, sure. Still, Ethics and Introversion definitely affect that strongly.

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The specific examples given were things like battle scenes, aggressive team sports, other loud demonstrations. Enjoyment of these seems like it would have no real relationship to Si, and if anything what they'd match best is raucous Beta quadra values (FeSe). Even there only weakly.

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The examples were given as "spectacles". I guess similar to the idea of "Participation in violent physical activities where such fights may take place, as in some sports, are motivated not by those fights themselves but by the stimulating sensations those activities generate, such as the release of adrenaline"? (Wikisocion, SEI composite description)

To me these do make sense based on the SLI girl I've known. She's adventurous for reasons like this, just simply enjoying the sensations rather than focusing on the active extraverted component of acquiring/achieving some material desire/goal (which does not happen at the same time as enjoyment/consummation of sensations/things).

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Originally Posted by Myst

It'll fit an EII more than an ESI-Se, sure. Still, Ethics and Introversion definitely affect that strongly.

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I would think most ILEs, LIIs, IEEs SEIs, SLIs would gravitate away from conflict if it's possible to do so, despite not being EII. Like if there's no strong disagreement that makes them argue, where more important priorities like (for Alpha NT at least) logic-chopping things that flat-out don't make sense kick in. Disdain for tension is typically described of Se-superego, and Si-base types are generally described as coming off somewhat soft.

Possibly not xSEs though, they're often described as having a sense of machismo that the other Ne/Si valuers generally lack.

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The examples were given as "spectacles". I guess similar to the idea of "Participation in violent physical activities where such fights may take place, as in some sports, are motivated not by those fights themselves but by the stimulating sensations those activities generate, such as the release of adrenaline"? (Wikisocion, SEI composite description)

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Huh. That's actually really interesting, thanks for the link.

I still would say it's a bad question to lump under Si though, because that just adds even more fuel to "there are so many reasons for enjoying these things." Se ego types generally do as well, and they match Beta quadra values well too. Framing them as "spectacles" sounds like influence from an Fe sort of showmanship focus, "all the world's a stage and we are merely players" and all. I'd think it would match FeSe just as much as FeSi.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

I would think most ILEs, LIIs, IEEs SEIs, SLIs would gravitate away from conflict if it's possible to do so, despite not being EII. Like if there's no strong disagreement that makes them argue, where more important priorities like pinpointing things that don't make sense kick in. Disdain for tension is typically described of Se-superego, and Si-base types are generally described as coming off somewhat soft.

Possibly not xSEs though, they're often described as having a sense of machismo that the other Ne/Si valuers generally lack.

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Yeah, I'm just saying that it's also linked strongly with IxFx. And yeah I see Si base more soft than Se base, as mentioned in post #428.

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Huh. That's actually really interesting, thanks for the link.

I still would say it's a bad question to lump under Si though, because that just adds even more fuel to "there are so many reasons for enjoying these things." Se ego types generally do as well, and they match Beta quadra values well too. Framing them as "spectacles" sounds like influence from an Fe sort of showmanship focus, and I'd think it would match FeSe just as much as FeSi.

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Np :)

Yes there are many reasons for doing seemingly the same thing, people are complicated, such is our luck :D

As for FeSe: I don't really see EIE just enjoying the sensory spectacle for its own sake, if it can have some FeNi message to it then maybe I guess.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Yeah, I'm just saying that it's also linked strongly with IxFx.

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Mhm. But if it's far more specific to EII than ESI, and at least as related to Se-devaluation so it's often not even Fi-related, then it seems like a really bad question to toss under the "Fi" section.

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Yes there are many reasons for doing seemingly the same thing, people are complicated, such is our luck :D

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That's why typology is so muddled. And maybe part of the fun. ;)

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As for FeSe: I don't really see EIE just enjoying the sensory spectacle for its own sake, if it can have some FeNi message to it then maybe I guess.

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I could see an EIE enjoying the atmosphere of an intense sporting event, like a football or hockey game. Just like a metal concert, the two have similar atmospheres actually. It's less about the visible sensations there than about the crowd, but as they're part of the same spectacle they can be easily linked in our minds. I'd think many such EIEs would answer in the affirmative to that question.

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

Mhm. But if it's far more specific to EII than ESI, and at least as related to Se-devaluation so it's often not even Fi-related, then it seems like a really bad question to toss under the "Fi" section.

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ESI-Fi is pretty conflict avoidant really... less than EII, but still a clear Fi influence in it.

I think it is often enough Fi related so it's a good question for the Fi section.

The weird translations were far worse. :)

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That's why typology is so muddled. And maybe part of the fun. ;)

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I like psychology for its complexity, sure. It's frustrating tho' when I see typology simplifications...

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I could see an EIE enjoying the atmosphere of an intense sporting event, like a football or hockey game. Just like a metal concert, the two have similar atmospheres actually. It's less about the visible sensations there than about the crowd, but as they're part of the same spectacle they can be easily linked in our minds. I'd think many such EIEs would answer in the affirmative to that question.

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For me they are not linked in my mind but possibly the question is too ambiguous as translated. I wouldn't mind looking at the original test questions really if I knew Russian. :p

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Originally Posted by Myst

ESI-Fi is pretty conflict avoidant really... less than EII, but still a clear Fi influence in it.

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ESI-Se also has a strong Fi influence, fittingly since that's their basic lens. But it's expressed in a very different way that isn't particularly conflict-avoidant, far as I can tell.

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I think it is often enough Fi related so it's a good question for the Fi section.

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I don't know about that. I'd think LIIs and ILEs would often answer affirmatively to it, they might be drawn into conflicts to correct perceived inaccuracies but they're instinctively generally stressed out by said conflict. It's never described as really invigorating them. They're Fi-superego, if it could just as easily fit someone who actively disdains Fi otherwise then it seems like a very poor gauge of Fi. There are far too many possible reasons for answering "2" or "3" to it.

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The weird translations were far worse. :)

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I'm not sure those were bad translations? Judging from the lack of type-relatedness in even questions that you thought make sense, it seems more like the creator was on crack and/or stupid.

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I like psychology for its complexity, sure. It's frustrating tho' when I see typology simplifications...

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ESI-Se also has a strong Fi influence, fittingly since that's their basic lens. But it's expressed in a very different way that isn't particularly conflict-avoidant, far as I can tell.

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The idea is that the stronger the Fi, the stronger the tendency will be, hence my mentioning ESI-Fi over ESI-Se.

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I don't know about that. I'd think LIIs and ILEs would often answer affirmatively to it, they might be drawn into conflicts to correct inaccuracies but they're instinctively generally stressed out by said conflict. It's never described as really invigorating them. They're Fi-superego, if it could just as easily fit someone who actively disdains Fi otherwise then it seems like a very poor gauge of Fi.

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My reasoning is, there is more than one factor affecting this, yes, but Fi is one of the strongest factors affecting it. So the question belongs to this section alright to contribute to the overall score.

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I'm not sure those were bad translations? Judging from the quality of even questions that you thought did make sense, it seems more like the creator was on crack and/or stupid.

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Dunno but they definitely could be translation issues.

Maybe ask @mu4 as to why he likes this test? As soon as I showed it to him (a while ago) he was very excited about it for some reason and put it up here. I never got around to asking him as to what he saw as great in this test. I personally did find certain sections great adding to my understanding of things in a shockingly effective way but in other sections I do find some questions weird, so like I said, it could be translation issues or idk what it is.

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The idea is that the stronger the Fi, the stronger the tendency will be, hence my mentioning ESI-Fi over ESI-Se.

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ESI-Se has stronger Fi than the overwhelming majority of types though. Yet I assume they'd generally answer in the negative, where the way LII-Nes are usually described I'd think they'd generally answer in the affirmative. So it seems like only a weak indicator of Fi and seems more strongly related to weak/devalued Se.

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My reasoning is, there is more than one factor affecting this, yes, but Fi is one of the strongest factors affecting it. So the question belongs to this section alright to contribute to the overall score.

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I'd prefer questions that strictly gauge that element alone. This is harder to construct than just throwing out anything that could potentially be related to that element, but there are concrete differences between the way the elements are described that a test could be built around. There's no similar question to gauge Se devaluation after all, so this type of question just muddies the waters and leads to inaccurate scoring.

I remember taking a Socionics test two or three years ago (when I mainly knew MBTI) on OkCupid, I'm pretty sure it was one of the ones Subteigh designed actually since I recognized the question he recently asked about from it. That's a good example of a well-designed test that strictly gauges elements and other typing criteria on their own terms.

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Maybe ask @mu4 as to why he likes this test? As soon as I showed it to him (a while ago) he was very excited about it for some reason and put it up here. I never got around to asking him as to what he saw as great in this test. I personally did find certain sections great adding to my understanding of things in a shockingly effective way but in other sections I do find some questions weird, so like I said, it could be translation issues or idk what it is.

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Could be a good question to ask, for sure. :)

Fi flows inward. That's how I see it when I poke EIIs with my logic. I think many tests do not isolate :Fi: well enough since those types tend to associate it to be much wider and holy than it really is.


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ESI-Se has stronger Fi than the overwhelming majority of types though. Yet I assume they'd generally answer in the negative, where the way LII-Nes are usually described I'd think they'd generally answer in the affirmative. So it seems like only a weak indicator of Fi and seems more strongly related to weak/devalued Se.

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I don't see how this is an argument for it being more strongly related to Se superego.

The statement was: "I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes."

Going by the theory, it's Fi>Ti and Ne>Se. So at best, equally related to Se superego. Not more related to that than to Fi.

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I'd prefer questions that strictly gauge that element alone.

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I'd prefer it too, in an utopia. :)

(Yes you can define an IE okay but it's going to be longer than a simple test question then. And it will require self-awareness to answer it well.)

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This is harder to construct than just throwing out anything that could potentially be related to that element, but there are concrete differences between the way the elements are described that a test could be built around. There's no similar question to gauge Se devaluation after all, so this type of question just muddies the waters and leads to inaccurate scoring.

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For the last part (on muddying the waters), no, because the scores are created from many more questions. Think of it as a part of the overall heuristics.

But if upon checking results from many test takers, a question is found not to correlate well to the other questions trying to measure the same thing it does need to be thrown out.

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I remember taking a Socionics test two or three years ago (when I mainly knew MBTI) on OkCupid, I'm pretty sure it was one of the ones Subteigh designed actually since I recognized the question he recently asked about from it. That's a good example of a well-designed test that strictly gauges elements and other typing criteria on their own terms.

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I didn't find that test to be better tbh, it wasn't strictly gauging elements - no such test exists outside utopia :).

(I do have an idea on a test that's not about trying to ask about elements via self reporting, but it's also more for scientific research purposes really.)

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Could be a good question to ask, for sure. :)

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Heh if he checks the mention. :)

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I also don't think Fi base types would usually describe themselves as liking to be the center of attention, which has nothing to do with pleasing others and isn't necessarily the same as infecting people with optimism. Neither of which, especially the latter, are things necessarily related to Fi either.

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Found the references to Ne DS liking the attention thingy, whatever that may mean or however it may make sense :o Second reference also makes note of carnivals/festivals stuff.

1. The questionnaire I gave you a few questions from in your type thread. (I can find a link for it, I only have a copy saved on my computer now.) Says: "Is it important to be at the center of a situation where everything revolves around you?" (Testing for Ne DS pretty much)
2. From Golihov: Ne as suggestive function of SLI (ISTp; Jean Gabin) and SEI (ISFp; Dumas) - "the person looks for a place to stay where there is external stability, harmony in the flow of things, positive atmosphere, and avoids places that are lacking in this. According to this principle he builds his personal life and work. Becomes inspired by bold innovative ideas, sometimes can get involved with unexpected, original proposals. Loves nature because it is constant, not changing, always calm and harmonious. Suggestible by external harmony and does not like sudden interruptions. If such interruptions happen, he simply leaves and goes to where it's more harmonious without trying to change anything. Often harmony for him is where he feels himself to be in the center of a situation, where everything revolves around him. Likes to attend carnivals, festivals, holiday, since they bring an external harmony, holiday atmosphere. Usually these types of people absorb the atmosphere, the settings, and the situations which prevailed at the time when they were small, and then attempt to reproduce it throughout their life. In general, they are very fond of remembering their childhood as something that they would want to come back to. Very fond of talented people: artists, musicians, poets, and sometimes even ready to support them financially for the opportunity to be in their company, often dragging them to their home so that the place lights up. Look for people who believe that everything will be fine, who believe in a positive future. Do not like the unpredictability, the chaos of the future, when someone has to help them find the right options, to catch the right opportunity, so he is very trusting and suggestible in decision-making. Likes predictability, moving "from one milestone to another." If this sequence is disrupted and an unexpected event happens, he may fall into "stupor", thus they are trying to take precautions, to provide for in advance, to cover for all contingencies. A good place for him is where is external wholeness, some orientating marks for the general movement, some suggested schedule and course of action. For example: 1) go to college 2) take these courses 3) finish it in 4 years. If he falls into some schedule, some routine, then to leave it is difficult for him due to difficulty in seeing options. Instead he may suddenly switch to another, more advanced schedule, with a guaranteed "bright future"."

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I don't see how this is an argument for it being more strongly related to Se superego.

The statement was: "I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes."

Going by the theory, it's Fi>Ti and Ne>Se. So at best, equally related to Se superego. Not more related to that than to Fi.

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Simple: it would fit LIIs more than ESIs, by my reading of the types, because I think both subtypes of LII would generally answer positively but only the Fi subtype of ESI would. That would logically mean it's a stronger indicator of Se superego than Fi base, since LIIs are Fi superego where ESIs aren't. I'd agree that it fits EII most of all.

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(Yes you can define an IE okay but it's going to be longer than a simple test question then. And it will require self-awareness to answer it well.)

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Subteigh's test solved the "longness" issue by just having paragraphs for questions. I don't really see an issue with that? They're just a few sentences and allow for questions that are much more element or temperament-specific, as opposed to the vagueness of this where most questions could suit any number of type-related dynamics. Often so many that I'd consider them flat-out NTR.

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For the last part (on muddying the waters), no, because the scores are created from many more questions. Think of it as a part of the overall heuristics.

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But these questions themselves are generally ones that could indicate far more things than just that one function. You can't develop accurate heuristics out of a series of unrepresentative questions, this one included.

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(I do have an idea on a test that's not about trying to ask about elements via self reporting, but it's also more for scientific research purposes really.)

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What's your idea? :)

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Found the references to Ne DS liking the attention thingy, whatever that may mean or however it may make sense :o Second reference also makes note of carnivals/festivals stuff.

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Again, super interesting snippet. Thanks for that. If Golihov is accurate (I wouldn't just instinctively trust a Socionist just because they have a Russian surname though), then it seems like this is in certain circumstances typical of Si base types. He specifies that it's in harmonious, relaxed ("holiday atmosphere") situations, which would make a lot of sense for SxIs.

Carnivals and festivals don't really vibe the same as loud sporting events and similar though, if you're drawing a comparison there. A festival can be a music festival, but what that generally brings to mind for me are community festivals which do seem more Si-leaning in nature. Usually you have samplings of local food, businesses displaying interesting wares, sometimes a ferris wheel, and overall a very relaxed pace. Carnivals likewise if that word is being used accurately (called "county fairs" in the US), they're just a more ride-heavy and less culturally-inclined form of festival. If it's being used as synonymous with "circus," then it's big on spectacle but generally not very raucous.

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Simple: it would fit LIIs more than ESIs, by my reading of the types, because I think both subtypes of LII would generally answer positively but only the Fi subtype of ESI would. That would logically mean it's a stronger indicator of Se superego than Fi base, since LIIs are Fi superego where ESIs aren't. I'd agree that it fits EII most of all.

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LII-Ti can engage in some conflicts in my experience. (As far as this is type related.) ESI-Se doesn't engage in some conflicts that beta STs do engage in. Etc. See below for more for continuation of this topic.

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Subteigh's test solved the "longness" issue by just having paragraphs for questions. I don't really see an issue with that? They're just a few sentences and allow for questions that are much more element or temperament-specific, as opposed to the vagueness of this where most questions could suit any number of type-related dynamics. Often so many that I'd consider them flat-out NTR.

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Those paragraphs were not entirely specific to type either, still not the perfect test I imagine in my little utopia.

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But these questions themselves are generally ones that could indicate far more things than just that one function. You can't develop accurate heuristics out of a series of unrepresentative questions, this one included.

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We disagree on how far it's representative. To settle this, go conduct a big study to do proper psychometrics for the test (or for Subteigh's).

Note: to be clear, I don't think the test is perfect, far from it.

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What's your idea? :)

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Sorry, don't have time to get into this now, PM me and we can talk about it later in the week.

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Again, super interesting snippet. Thanks for that. If Golihov is accurate (I wouldn't just instinctively trust a Socionist just because they have a Russian surname though), then it seems like this is in certain circumstances typical of Si base types. He specifies that it's in harmonious, relaxed ("holiday atmosphere") situations though, which would make sense for SxIs.

Carnivals and festivals don't really vibe the same as loud sporting events and similar though, if you're drawing a comparison there. The former are generally also big on spectacle, but much less raucous.

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Carnivals and festivals don't really vibe the same as loud sporting events and similar though, if you're drawing a comparison there. A festival can be a music festival, but what that generally brings to mind for me are community festivals which do seem more Si-leaning in nature. Usually you have samplings of local food, businesses displaying interesting wares, sometimes a ferris wheel, and overall a very relaxed pace. Carnivals likewise if that word is being used accurately (called "county fairs" in the US), they're just a more ride-heavy and less culturally-inclined form of festival. If it's being used as synonymous with "circus," then it's big on spectacle but generally not very raucous.

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Hmm I always saw them as a lot of chance for intense sensory enjoyment. But for me that's not with a slow pace. For other people it subjectively can be absorbed at a slower pace I suppose. For the latter, it would mean more focus on consuming (Si) the sensations instead of the main focus being on acquiring the object of desire (Se). The question could've elaborated on that aspect... And, if a sporting event is linked to wanting your team to end up winning or the event is full of troublemakers then it's different sure (Se>Si), if that's what you meant... in terms of the sensory enjoyment however, I see it the same way as any other spectacle (Si>Se). Again, the question could've elaborated on this more, but since it was talking about the spectacle aspect I think it made an attempt at it. Even if not obvious enough to some people, I guess, which is what should be fixed in the way the question is put.

I hope that's clear as to what my point is there :)

OK, gotta go, back later in the second half of the week.

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LII-Ti can engage in some conflicts in my experience.

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The question isn't really whether it happens, but whether they prefer to veer away from it. Like, probably related as a probable fellow Se-superego: I'm instinctively stressed out when I see that someone's quoted my posts, because it tells me that I'm now probably involved in a debate.

LIIs often get involved in debates, but based on every description of them I'd guess it similarly stresses them out no matter the subtype. They seem to get involved in debates to correct things that are seen as inaccurate, but tend to actively dislike the conflict in and of itself. Like it's almost an unwanted compulsion.

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We disagree on how far it's representative. To settle this, go conduct a big study to do proper psychometrics for the test (or for Subteigh's).

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That would have any number of difficulties. The easiest way would be to see if the type received matches the self-typing, but people for various reasons often have self-typings that are less descriptive of them than some other type. If I had the time and interest I could conduct in-depth interviews as a way of rectifying that problem, but to be honest, I don't. :lol:

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in terms of the sensory enjoyment however, I see it the same way as any other spectacle (Si>Se).

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Sure, enjoying the sensory thrill of a sporting event would fit any Sensor type. I'd think an SxI would generally get at least slightly uncomfortable if that event becomes too raucous though. Especially if they're E9, which is a common type for SEIs and SLIs.

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Again, the question could've elaborated on this more, but since it was talking about the spectacle aspect I think it made an attempt at it.

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I think it did so pretty poorly since Se-egos would answer the exact same way, per the usual description and my experience with them they also would generally enjoy the sensory spectacle IMO in addition to the struggle. As said above I also think, while they generally wouldn't be looking at the same thing, due to the specific examples given being battle scenes/loud sporting events/etc., EIEs who relish the raucous energy of the event would probably often answer in the affirmative. Few people would separate out the energy of the event from the sensory element in answering that question, it would be taken more simply as "do you like battle scenes/intense sporting events/etc.?" Especially since the word "spectacle" was used which implies an element of exactly the dramatism that EIEs gravitate towards. Yet they're Si-PoLR.

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Even if not obvious enough to some people, I guess, which is what should be fixed in the way the question is put.

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I'd agree with that. It could maybe be a good test with a lot of re-wording, but honestly that's 1/2 to 3/4 of the questions.

I think Edward Snowden is LII-Ti. He caused lots of conflicting views.
There are other LIIs out there that I have seen doing overblown stuff to get reactions. When emotions take control over their mind... they are non-physically out of handle :hide:

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The idea is that the stronger the Fi, the stronger the tendency will be, hence my mentioning ESI-Fi over ESI-Se.

My reasoning is, there is more than one factor affecting this, yes, but Fi is one of the strongest factors affecting it. So the question belongs to this section alright to contribute to the overall score.
Dunno but they definitely could be translation issues.

Maybe ask @mu4 as to why he likes this test? As soon as I showed it to him (a while ago) he was very excited about it for some reason and put it up here. I never got around to asking him as to what he saw as great in this test. I personally did find certain sections great adding to my understanding of things in a shockingly effective way but in other sections I do find some questions weird, so like I said, it could be translation issues or idk what it is.

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I don't think the whole test is anything special, but there are parts of it that is surprising and insightful, it's somewhat different than the typical MBTI test as well which takers are very used to taking and gaming the answer the way they want it.

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Mhm. But if it's far more specific to EII than ESI, and at least as related to Se-devaluation so it's often not even Fi-related, then it seems like a really bad question to toss under the "Fi" section.

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I agree with this, correlation with argumentativeness is much better fit under Se and has virtually nothing to do with Fi.

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ESI-Fi is pretty conflict avoidant really... less than EII, but still a clear Fi influence in it.

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No, they aren't. People like you tend to confuse people who don't want to engage in an argument for conflict avoidant when they aren't the same thing. ESI-Fi definitely aren't conflict avoidant, they may not enjoy an argument for it's own sake but they aren't types to shy away from one either.

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I don't see how this is an argument for it being more strongly related to Se superego.

The statement was: "I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes."

Going by the theory, it's Fi>Ti and Ne>Se.

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According to what theory? Where did you find this information?

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

1

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

3

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

1

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

1

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

1

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

0

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

2

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

3

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

1

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

1

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

1

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

2

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

0

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

1

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

1

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

3

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

3

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

2

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

0

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

1

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

2

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

2

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

1

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

1

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

2

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

1

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

2

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

1

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

2

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

1

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

3

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

3

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

1

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

3

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

1

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

1

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

1

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

1

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

1

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

0

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

0

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

2

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

3

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

1

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

3

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

3

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

2

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

2

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

1

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

1

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

0

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

2

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

0

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

0

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

0

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

1

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

0

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

1

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

1

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

0

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

3

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

1

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

0

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

1

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

3

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

2

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

0

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

1

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

2

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

2

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

0

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

0

9. I can easily understand algebra.

1

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

1

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

3

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

1

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

2

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

1

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

3

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

2

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

1

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

2

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

1

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

2

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

3

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

3

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

2

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

1

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

2

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

2

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

2

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

3

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

1

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

3

Section B

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

1

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

1

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

1

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

1

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

2

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

1

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

0

Section C

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

0

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

2

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

2

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

0

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

1

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

2

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

1

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

2

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

0

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

2

Section D

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

1

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

1

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

1

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

3

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

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10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

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Section E

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

2

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

1

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

2

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

2

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

2

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

2

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

0

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

3

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

1

Section F

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

2

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

1

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

3

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

3

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

3

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

3

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

2

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

2

9. I can easily understand algebra.

3

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

0

Section G

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

1

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

1

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

1

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

0

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

2

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

2

Section H

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

2

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

3

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

3

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

0

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

1

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

2

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

2

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

1

10. I prefer to meet in private.

2

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Originally Posted by mu4

I don't think the whole test is anything special, but there are parts of it that is surprising and insightful, it's somewhat different than the typical MBTI test as well which takers are very used to taking and gaming the answer the way they want it.

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OK, I'm curious as to which parts you are referring to with "surprising and insightful", let me know?

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The question isn't really whether it happens, but whether they prefer to veer away from it. Like, probably related as a probable fellow Se-superego: I'm instinctively stressed out when I see that someone's quoted my posts, because it tells me that I'm now probably involved in a debate.

LIIs often get involved in debates, but based on every description of them I'd guess it similarly stresses them out no matter the subtype. They seem to get involved in debates to correct things that are seen as inaccurate, but tend to actively dislike the conflict in and of itself. Like it's almost an unwanted compulsion.

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If they don't veer away from it then obviously it can't be all that big of a (lack of a) preference or stress.

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That would have any number of difficulties. The easiest way would be to see if the type received matches the self-typing, but people for various reasons often have self-typings that are less descriptive of them than some other type. If I had the time and interest I could conduct in-depth interviews as a way of rectifying that problem, but to be honest, I don't. :lol:

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Yeah I imagine most people don't have the time or interest.

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Sure, enjoying the sensory thrill of a sporting event would fit any Sensor type. I'd think an SxI would generally get at least slightly uncomfortable if that event becomes too raucous though. Especially if they're E9, which is a common type for SEIs and SLIs.

I think it did so pretty poorly since Se-egos would answer the exact same way, per the usual description and my experience with them they also would generally enjoy the sensory spectacle IMO in addition to the struggle. As said above I also think, while they generally wouldn't be looking at the same thing, due to the specific examples given being battle scenes/loud sporting events/etc., EIEs who relish the raucous energy of the event would probably often answer in the affirmative. Few people would separate out the energy of the event from the sensory element in answering that question, it would be taken more simply as "do you like battle scenes/intense sporting events/etc.?" Especially since the word "spectacle" was used which implies an element of exactly the dramatism that EIEs gravitate towards. Yet they're Si-PoLR.

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I didn't answer the exact same way as an Se ego. When I looked at that statement, I was like, okay, it's whatever, fine. It was very different from the Se focus that I usually have. (So yes I found that part of the test interesting... insightful, like mu4 apparently says here.)

For sure the way how people tend to read statements should be taken into account when creating a test with a good psychometric approach.

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I'd agree with that. It could maybe be a good test with a lot of re-wording, but honestly that's 1/2 to 3/4 of the questions.

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Definitely some rewording is sorely in order lol

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Originally Posted by Slade

I agree with this, correlation with argumentativeness is much better fit under Se and has virtually nothing to do with Fi.

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Making peace (as per the original statement) has a strong Ethics dimension...

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No, they aren't. People like you tend to confuse people who don't want to engage in an argument for conflict avoidant when they aren't the same thing. ESI-Fi definitely aren't conflict avoidant, they may not enjoy an argument for it's own sake but they aren't types to shy away from one either.

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Lol at the need to direct some completely impersonal discussion personally at me. And distorting stuff about me, of course.

As for ESI-Fi, I have definitely seen ESI-Fi's who shied away from conflict when they saw it as unnecessary. I've seen them opt out of entering into it because of Ethical concerns.

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According to what theory? Where did you find this information?

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Ethics in general has as one of its functions, harmony of feelings in relationships (as contrasted to Logic, which doesn't deal with this directly). I assume you weren't asking about the Ne>Se comparison since you yourself use that idea from Socionics theory.

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Originally Posted by Myst

If they don't veer away from it then obviously it can't be all that big of a (lack of a) preference or stress.

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Sure it can. Whether you feel compelled to respond to things you view as damagingly inaccurate has no bearing on how stressed you are by doing it. Like I've thought about ragequitting in literally every debate I've had here, I actively hate any debate that I think has gone beyond "constructive friendly discussion" and that degenerates into competitive bloodsport/egos getting in the way of productive conversation. Unfortunately, that's most debates.

Seriously considering ragequitting due to stress on a daily basis is obviously an extreme example, but it goes to show that one can be both active in debate and have a very strong preference against it. Most LIIs I know are similar, in that they'll engage in debates, but generally reluctantly or half-heartedly due to not wanting to get bogged down in the discomfort-causing Se bloodsport aspect of argumentation. They often bow out or stop responding once they find it's too stressful.

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I didn't answer the exact same way as Se ego.

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Do you not self-type as an LSI? You are, per your typing, Se-ego.

I do think an Se-creative might regularly answer differently from an Se-base, though. Their concern won't first and foremost be the Se + Fe-oriented competitive exhilaration caused by the event it's referencing, after all, so they may have more reasons for disinterest. On the other hand, their Si will be stronger as the demonstrative rather than the ignoring, which probably balances that out so far as the visual aspect of it is concerned.

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Sure it can. Whether you feel compelled to respond to things you view as damagingly inaccurate has no bearing on how stressed you are by doing it. Like I've thought about ragequitting in literally every debate I've had here, I actively hate any debate that I think has gone beyond "constructive friendly discussion" and that degenerates into competitive bloodsport/egos getting in the way of productive conversation. Unfortunately, that's most debates.

Seriously considering ragequitting due to stress on a daily basis is obviously an extreme example, but it goes to show that one can be both active in debate and have a very strong preference against it. Most LIIs I know are similar, in that they'll engage in debates, but generally reluctantly or half-heartedly due to not wanting to get bogged down in the discomfort-causing Se bloodsport aspect of argumentation. They often bow out or stop responding once they find it's too stressful.

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Entering the conflict is more highly prioritized than avoidance of it, that is definitely preference for it regardless of possibly secretly wishing for something else on the side. Can't both have cake and eat it (one has to be prioritized over the other). Amount of induced stress seems a separate variable to me.

OK, any further and deeper analyzing of this should be based on more precise measurements, or it's going to get too speculative for my taste. We agreed on how it would be good to fix up some things in these tests.

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Do you not self-type as an LSI? You are, per your typing, Se-ego.

I do think an Se-creative might regularly answer differently from an Se-base, though. Their concern won't first and foremost be the Se + Fe-oriented competitive exhilaration caused by the event it's referencing, after all.

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Sorry, worded that ambiguously, I meant I didn't answer that question in the same way as the Se questions, being an Se ego.

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Originally Posted by Myst

Entering the conflict is more highly prioritized than avoidance of it, that is definitely preference for it regardless of possibly secretly wishing for something else on the side. Can't both have cake and eat it (one has to be prioritized over the other). Amount of induced stress seems a separate variable to me.

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I think it's true that engaging in conflict and being stressed out by it are separate variables, though related in that you can eventually get so fed up with ego-stroking debates that you decide to not put your views out there. I've seen this especially of LIIs, I know one person I'd type LII (Ne subtype, 9w1) who only debates privately with people he knows won't be overbearing. Thomas Jefferson is usually typed LII and also did this, he refused to debate except in written form due to being stressed out by verbal dispute. Caveat: this would at best only be a short-term avoidance for an ILE, considering that type's natural inclination towards poking around at others' ideas.

But then we get back to the fact that I don't see ESIs as in any way more conflict avoidant than LIIs, either in description or observed behavior. Both, for different reasons, choose to engage or not engage in various conflicts and for various reasons can wish they weren't there even if they do. So again, I see no feasible way in which it's more Fi-related than Se-related. EII exemplifies conflict-avoidance more than any other type for both Fi-base and Se-PoLR reasons, at best I don't think either factor is more essential to that than the other.

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We agreed on how it would be good to fix up some things in these tests.

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For sure. :)

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Originally Posted by Nanooka

I think it's true that engaging in conflict and being stressed out by it are separate variables, though related in that you can eventually get so fed up with ego-stroking debates that you decide to not put your views out there. I've seen this especially of LIIs, I know one person I'd type LII (Ne subtype, 9w1) who only debates privately with people he knows won't be overbearing. Thomas Jefferson is usually typed LII and also did this, he refused to debate except in written form due to being stressed out by verbal dispute. Caveat: this would at best only be a short-term avoidance for an ILE, considering that type's natural inclination towards poking around at others' ideas.

But then we get back to the fact that I don't see ESIs as in any way more conflict avoidant than LIIs, either in description or observed behavior. Both, for different reasons, choose to engage or not engage in various conflicts and for various reasons can wish they weren't there even if they do. So again, I see no feasible way in which it's more Fi-related than Se-related. EII exemplifies conflict-avoidance more than any other type for both Fi-base and Se-PoLR reasons, at best I don't think either factor is more essential to that than the other.

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Sure, I think I already said my thoughts on this. Bolded: I also like to go beyond the Socionics model for that.

socionics test - ru.laser.ru

Section A 15/30

1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions.

2

2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others.

1

3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic.

0

4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side.

0

5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view.

1

6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments.

2

7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person.

2

8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders.

2

9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly.

3

10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies.

2

Section B 4/30

1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind.

0

2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate.

0

3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future.

0

4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.).

0

5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books.

1

6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. love music, art, theater, books.

1

7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them.

1

8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions.

0

9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression.

0

10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).

1

Section C 25/30

1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.

2

2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow.

3

3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge.

2

4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine.

2

5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation.

2

6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war.

3

7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views.

3

8. I would like to be the first and break all records.

3

9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline.

3

10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me.

2

Section D 6/30

1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands.

1

2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me.

0

3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.)

2

4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others.

0

5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.).

0

6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need.

1

7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest.

2

8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism.

0

9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently.

0

10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.

0

Section E 15/30

1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks.

3

2. I treat people harshly, but fair.

2

3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality.

2

4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions.

1

5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable.

1

6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit.

0

7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results.

2

8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood.

2

9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it.

2

10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things.

0

Section F 19/30

1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods.

2

2. I love order, systems and sequences.

2

3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people.

3

4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information.

2

5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions.

2

6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others.

2

7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system.

3

8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach.

2

9. I can easily understand algebra.

3

10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects.

1

Section G 2/30

1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices.

0

2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future.

1

3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily.

0

4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way.

0

5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate.

0

6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses.

0

7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings.

1

8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose.

0

9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope.

0

10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.

0

Section H 5/30

1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes.

1

2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements.

1

3. I prefer to be a homebody.

0

4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.

1

5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.

1

6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.

0

7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.

0

8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best.

0

9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents.

0

10. I prefer to meet in private.

1

Now that is a bit of a surprise really, seems like environment you are surrounded with may have something to do with percieved type.