As I recall both you and Radio were typing the cast of a drag queen show and america's next top model in chat, so you haven't really made it clear as to why you find this whole proces so enthralling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galen
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As I recall both you and Radio were typing the cast of a drag queen show and america's next top model in chat, so you haven't really made it clear as to why you find this whole proces so enthralling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galen
It's more that I never really see you express any active interest in those kinds of shows, regardless of if you actually do like them or not. So when I see you post a typing from some guest on a daytime talk-show or whatever it seems kinda out of left field to me. It gives the impression you treat that media as a strictly intellectual typology exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
actually reality shows can be really good for typing IMO, since these shows tend to center around a large group of different personalities in which not everything is always scripted/planned, with the express purpose of making everyone interact, work together, form relationships, etc.... so yea i think they provide really good typing material in a lot of ways.
he reminds me of amanda palmer (who i type as LSE sx/so) even the nose is similar ...Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
http://www.granadatheater.com/files/...v4io1_1280.jpg
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wen...oor-gig-04.jpg
Xavier Dolan - sx/so e4 ESI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II76GoslcGs
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Originally Posted by SisOfNight
Interesting, this makes me feel claustrophobic. It has this sp/sx thing of pushing against your own skin that lungs described once.
I am not criticizing that it's here, just observing. It could very well be a 7 thing that I feel that way.
I always thought the recent artistic depictions of Gideon Jura in Magic the Gathering looked Sx/So + Ti-SLE. Like Aquagraph was modeling for the artists.
Roza Siabitova – sx/so, Alpha
http://i.imgur.com/eeljTN2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FDJUgIj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sQzfdZ6.jpg
Lmao.. what's with the hell imagery.. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. Sorry I'm not evil. Let me find a bright sunshine-y beautiful one to counter.
:P Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarlettLux
Evangeline Lilly - sx/so, BetaQuote:
Originally Posted by Aylen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDNbZTrCwzI
;)
Not sure if Otep has been posted yet in this thread. I might have even posted it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKu6UOgnhE
Something about her. :hello:
Looks more So/Sp to me... Sx as blindspot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SisOfNight
I am so angry that this is what music has becomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim
Omg, this video. :halo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inTiXHksTQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdB3Oyd5HtU
I also thought this could be more so/sx?
I've been magnetic since I was a Baby ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCl2g_aL8rQ
Steven Ellison (Flying Lotus, FlyLo) seems like sx/so some introverted sensing type - interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4vLEBxIo4
Christina Aguilera - Candyman - sx/so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ScjucUV8v0
http://heightandweights.com/wp-conte...ilera-sexy.jpg
I like this thread.
/kicks HA.
Very interesting ... I'm starting to wonder if sx/so are actually kind of unlikable because they're just so over the top and like I said before, confrontational. Christina is a good example -- compare her to Britney.. she's arguably way more talented vocally but she never really achieved mass popularity in terms of just .. "likeability" that I see Britney achieving. Britney seemed more so/sx whereas Christina would push boundaries and be aggressive, not easy to handle (see: Dirrty era..)Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
I've always liked Christina more but I can see how I can come across similarly to other sx/so with being way too in your face it's annoying
MIKA - Grace Kelly - sx/so EIE-Fe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaEPCsQ4608
James Bond. 007. Sx/so especially on the last series of films with Daniel Craig as Bond. Perhaps earlier he'd be more so/sx. Clearly though in both Skyfall and Spectre he's either LSI or LSE and either E6w7 counterphobic or E7w8 (I'd go for 7w8 sx/so). What are your impressions on Craig's Bond. @silke ?
edit. something makes me think in Spectre he's really playing more of a counterphobic 6 sx/so since he 'doesn't trust anyone' anymore. And more likely LSE than LSI.
Daniel Craig as James Bond is actually SX blindspot. Having sex regularly with many random women does not indicate SX first, but in his case SX last; in the sense he avoids any kind of true intimacy, merging with someone, etc. He simply gets his biological sexual needs met, and that's it. He does not enter close relationships for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airman
The above, and other traits of his, make me believe he is actually SP/SO.
Enneagram-wise, I think he is most likely 8w7 or 8w9. He is not phobic at all. Neither counterphobic, nor "regular" phobic.
He may not even have E6 in his tritype, but E5 instead.
At last, Socionics-wise... He's most likely LSI.
Hard to tell because it's a fiction character not a real life one so there are inconsistencies etc. On E8...likely. About the instinct stacking no clue because you see at the end of the movie he quits his job to live with the woman whose father he'd killed, indicates not sx last. More likely Aggressor ST though and in this I agree likely LSI. About enneagram it's hard to tell anything from the movie itself imo. Not a 2, not a 4, not a 5, not a 9. Other than that all the other types including E1 are possible. Putting himself at risk on a job daily basis does indicate SP not first. SPs generally don't feel very good risking their lives that way on a daily basis, points more to SX first because of craving for intensity. I stick with either SO/SX or SX/SO.Quote:
Originally Posted by SisOfNight
omg I remember this song from Pretty Little Liars!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylen
"Do the Helen Keller" always makes me smh and crack up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3sYY4n_zX8
this song is literally my theme song
Rita Ora - IEI sx/so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1fGOG3XXIQ
She is Sx/Sp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfall
Her lack of a Social instinct shows in the way she used to make trolling videos in the past, and generally had the attitude of not caring about what other people think.
Just watch her music videos on being a "fat chick".
She cares for her audience, sure, but on an Sx/Sp basis.
I'd agree on typing her as Type 3. 3w2, in fact.
P.S: The way she is "obsessed" with relationships and not afraid to make her entire love life public is also Sx/Sp. Not saying all Sx/Sp people are like that (mainly Fe valuing introverts would not be), but one can safely say that a person who is conscious of the Social instinct will keep the details of their love life more private. Making videos on past "sexcapades" as she called them is pretty much Sx/Sp. The Social instinct stays away from such topics, because it is socially unacceptable. Sx/So might "push the buttons" from time to time, but they are aware of doing so. She lacks that awareness.
I'm not familiar with this person, but just watching her for 5 sec I'm pretty certain she's sp-last. What I don't think is that she's 3w2, too messy (I might be wrong about this one).
I disagree with everything. Sx/so is not going for socially acceptable, but for making an impact, an impression on social sphere. Sx/sp is much more private than sx/so. Not saying that sx/sp can't overshare, cause they definitely can, but not in the way this girl is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SisOfNight
Madonna really went downhill. =/ I used to have respect for her, she was a pop star but had this dignity and respect. Now she's just whore ish and ew. Madonna, you FAIL. And u have the nerve to call Lady Gaga reductionist when you pull this garbage?
The videos made me cringe a bit. I hold my "love life" and my feelings about my romantic interests pretty sacred so to do something like this in response to a break up would be totally against my nature. If I talk about it at all, with others, it is after a careful analysis and not usually as a reaction for attention. If I am doing something for attention, after a breakup, it will be directed at the person and not to the world. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by darya
Sx first. Some of their songs seem sx/sp to me but this one I lean more toward sx/so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGt-8adyabk
Yeah, I get it, you're an outcast
Always under attack, always coming in last
Bringing up the past, no one owes you anything
I think you need a shotgun blast, a kick in the ass
So paranoid, watch your back
Oh my, here we go
Another lose cannon gone bi-polar
Slipped down, couldn't get much lower
Quicksand's got no sense of humor
I'm still laughing like hell
You think that by crying to me
Looking so sorry that I'm gonna believe
You've been infected by a social disease
Well, then take your medicine
I created the sound of madness, wrote the book on pain
Somehow I'm still here to explain
That the darkest hour never comes in the night
You can sleep with a gun
When you gonna wake up and fight for yourself?
I'm so sick of this tombstone mentality
If there's an afterlife then it'll set you free
But I'm not gonna part the seas
You're a self-fulfilling prophecy
You think that by crying to me
Looking so sorry that I'm gonna believe
You've been infected by a social disease
Well, then take your medicine
I created the sound of madness, wrote the book on pain
Somehow I'm still here to explain
That the darkest hour never comes in the night
You can sleep with a gun
When you gonna wake up and fight for yourself?
When you gonna wake up and fight for yourself?
I don't know if George Ezra is sx/so, but this song certainly is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHrLPs3_1Fs
sx/so - Lady Marmelade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQa7SvVCdZk
The sx/so seductress.
Why do sx/so's project open sexual energy?
-sx/soc's establish status and relate to others through emotion and sexuality
so --> into --> sx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7NkbeXSXsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsEF7Qx09o
Grace Neutral, the girl who tattooed her eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qvN_Gi1kNE
Might have posted this before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdphvuyaV_I
http://w.cdn-expressen.se/images/f8/...3cf68e/760.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxzqrzWm60w
Interesting to watch the changes actually. He still vibes sx first.
http://www.thesleepingshaman.com/wp-...ve-Wyndorf.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrg8X8csis
Jim carrey :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zGahFzBoJk
Sx/so needs not being met. Lol. Seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAFo6IIV03M
This legit turned me on when I first watched it. Lol. It's kinda silly music, but it's what I think good indie pop should be.
Lars von Trier is probably the most famous SX/SO director at the moment.
Almost all of his movies are SX/SO or at least contraflow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdxzno5Xp2Y
Marilyn Manson - sx/so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQpLylK650
He's a Social 4w5 -> he typed himself (and I agree with him)Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
The soc 4w5 typing is iffy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samson
Type 4 is in image shame triad, and Mason has never expressed sincere shame over his appearances (and there is a lot there he could be ashamed of).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aKteL3vMvU
Adele :)
"What if i never love again?" Very sx.
:ew:
so/sxQuote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
no, def sx first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eris
How? He's like the epitome of ENTP 7w6 so/sx. He's way too open and lighthearted for sx. He has a tortured side, sure, but that doesn't mean he's sx; Robin Williams is a good example of so/sx with a dark side. And the two are very similar (both Alpha extravert too, Robin is ESE). Maybe I'm just disgusted by the idea of sharing a stack with him, because I don't like him, but I really can't see sx first.Quote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
there's no reason why sx first cant be open and lighthearded..? He is sx first because he feels to me as if relationships and sexual attraction is what matters most to him and he could really get destroyed by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eris
I don't mean sx can't be that, just that he is that in such a scattered so/sx way. Relationships are only one superficial part of sx, and so cares even more about relationships, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
no. to me he definitely feels like he could be destroyed by sex and love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eris
u fulla shitQuote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
I could see Manson being Sx/So 4w5.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
SX 4 is very "anti shame" and rebellious in that sense.
Quote:
Sexual/Social 4
This subtype is able to connect with others and with life itself, but always with an undertone of volatility and a tendency to dramatize. They are the most involved and connected of the subtypes of Four. They can go from relationship to relationship, seemingly tortured by each one. They are the most driven of the subtypes of Four to express themselves publicly and type Four celebrities are commonly found with this stacking. This subtype has a real difficulty remaining grounded, partly due to the undeveloped self-pres instinct. Although they can appear almost Eight-like at times with their lust for life and desire for passionate experience, they lack the focus of the Eight and the instinctual energy that would keep them grounded. Sometimes alcohol or substance abuse can be a problem. These Fours become more healthy when they learn to control their impulsivenss and focus their energies.
lol the shame in image triad doesnt mean that theyre ashamed of everything they do. Theyre ashamed because they dont know who their true self is, and try to find it by attempting to have these images (being helpful, successful, unique) but deep down they know theyre just covering up their true selves.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeves
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/t...-heart-center/Quote:
Feeling cut off from the flow of our True Identity, we do not know who we are. Perhaps I was wrong and I am nothing—perhaps I have no love, no preciousness, no identity… So my ego personality seeks ways to get back to these qualities by trying to feel and appear loving and caring (2), precious and valuable (3), or deep and unique (4). But in so doing, I am creating a mask, a false image. Shame arises as the primal shame of my soul, knowing that this image is not the True Self, even as I try to create the image in a “wrong-turn” attempt to return to what I know is my True Nature. Even shame, as anger and fear, can arise and dissolve, but when the ego is driven by it, the Heart Center distortions have taken over.
Anyway i doubt hes an image type, or a 4. He doesnt have the vulnerability and/or dissatisfaction of a 4
You have to know that Shame is a keyword for the Social 4 in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
Yes, all Image types have some traces of shame within them, but with the Social 4 this is one of their biggest issues, so to speak.
Quoting Beatrice Chestnut (most people who are into the Enneagram should read her book):
^ Based on this, I'd agree with yeves and conclude Manson isn't really a Social 4 (most likely), but rather a Sexual 4. As far as I know, he does relate to some SO 4 shame, but it is not in the foreground with him (hence SX/SO 4 makes the most sense, apart from the fact he is contraflow AF).Quote:
Social Fours tend to feel a sense of shame about their wants and needs, and their experience of desire is associated with more guilt than other people's. The social four feels guilty for any wish. Shame puts their internal focus on intense and dark emotions such as envy, jealousy, hatred, and competition. They are too shy to express desires, except through a display of suffering. They don't feel entitled to have their needs met but at the same time may believe that the world is “against” them or that “no one gives me what I want or what I need.” Social Fours don't compete with others (like sexual fours do) as much as they compare themselves to others and find themselves lacking- almost as if by showing themselves to be lacking they can call forth what they need from others. Underneath, however, they experience a fierce competitiveness that may be largely unconscious: a competitiveness for recognition, being unique and special, and wanting to be in first place. This is more hidden and subtle in the social four, however, than it is in the sexual four.
Here, in comparison:
P.S: I just saw you type yourself as SO blindspot 4. Assuming this is an accurate typing, you would not be able to relate to the shame a Social 4 experiences.Quote:
The Sexual Four is more assertive and angrier than the other subtypes. Naranjo refers to this Four as the “mad Four” as opposed to the “sad” (Social) Four. These Fours can be very outspoken with their anger because expression of anger is their way of defending against painful feelings. When they unconsciously turn their pain into anger, they don't have to feel their pain anymore.
Naranjo and Beatrice chestnut is complete shit :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SisOfNight
:8*Quote:
Originally Posted by msnobody
You like them and you type adam lambert 4. Enough saidQuote:
Originally Posted by SisOfNight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMvNOZzuDtU
Trisha Paytas ^^ She might be sx/sp but sx nonetheless. Probably 6w7 and 468 tritype. Relate a lot to her.
sp/sxQuote:
Originally Posted by yeves
Sx/so celebrities: Jessica Nigri, Adele, John Lennon, Jennifer Lawrence
The Purge movies are a dark Sx/So fantasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxf1HKf5ac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFCDqKE4yA
sx/so's love life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MPtXUeUznY
the women ...
0:38 - sx/so (?)
0:54 - so/sp
1:00 - sp/sx
1:24 - sx/sp
1:40 - so/sx
3:59 - sp/so
:popcorn:
I'm Sx-So. what is a good job for the sx-so type? what's the use of sx types except for stirring things up. I can see how society likes So and Sp types but hates Sx types.
I've also been on a singles holiday with 20 people and could notice the sp/sx/so differences very clearly. I gravitate towards Sx types. find So types boring and Sp types annoying.
Beyonce is not sx/so. Probably sp/so.
Where did he type himself? Like how did you figure out hes into enneagram? wthQuote:
Originally Posted by Samson
And yea, agree he is an so/sp 4w5.
