... that caffenated or whatever water would be a good idea? You get all the addiction of the drug, without all the suger/other chemicals that Coke has.
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... that caffenated or whatever water would be a good idea? You get all the addiction of the drug, without all the suger/other chemicals that Coke has.
I actually would buy into the idea of caffinated water, so as long as it's flavorless, as I have a general distaste for coffee.
I think it would be a good/bad idea. It would be a good idea for caffeine nuts like me. It would be a bad idea for it's negative side effects.
I'd buy it, I love water and I love caffine.
That's just not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamicism
big market but limited success-(www.waterjoe.com). If American food companies really wanted to sell non-carbonated, non-coffee caffiene product they could slap 'healthy all natural'(though there are some FDA regulations on labelling goods like this, meaning that the companies would have to make a somewhat health oriented product, 'tomato buzz' anyone?) on the drink label. Most uninformed consumers would call this a good purchase regardless of the actual content.
we cant make money off of that. yet.
Yeah, definately flavorless. Just water with some sort of drug in it like caffeine. Power water!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticSonic
@everyone else: we can't make money of that, like health just said.
caffiene=bad
i don't think flavorless would sell. Most people like to enjoy whatever they take into their body. Ashton was right-- if you don't want to enjoy the sensual aspect of sensual things-- take pills.
I listen to you, eXtreme logical subtype guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by niffweed17
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Originally Posted by heath
So what? there are far worse things people pay money to put in their bodies. There's a reason people choose caffeinated coffee when they have the option of decaf, caffeinated Coke when there's Coke without caffeine, caffeinated tea, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by niffweed17
BTW, what do you think of nicotine? We could always put that in there and it would have the same effect. I'm just saying it would be a good option for people who don't like coffe, don't want Coke (which has worse things in it then caffeine), and so on.
It's okay Rocky. I got laughed at when I mentioned that "they" needed to invent spray-on condoms. Id drink the cracked up H2O !
there used to be some called Water Joe or something
of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
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BTW, what do you think of nicotine? We could always put that in there and it would have the same effect. I'm just saying it would be a good option for people who don't like coffe, don't want Coke (which has worse things in it then caffeine), and so on.
i don't think its any secret that nicotine is a drug which is far more dangerous than caffiene.
i always have felt like caffine doesn't do anything for me no matter how much i intake, so i don't really understand the addiction to it
i like coffee i guess, as long its flavorful, or has milk and sugar and all that
but it fucks up my stomach so meh
read my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
oic...Quote:
Originally Posted by heath
:lol: Wanna know how often I read a multiple page thread in its entirety before posting? Maybe 50% of the time.
I thought that a liquid marijuana beverage would be a good idea, since it would alleviate the harmful lung damage resulting from the smoke similar to cigarettes. The high should also last much longer considering that it is ingested rather than smoked.
There should be a pill you can take that provides a perfectly balanced diet without having to eat.
why don't you create it?
sounds boring
that's the type of thing I pay other people to do
Sounds as boring to eat as it is to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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Originally Posted by Traveler
Is it possible to make THC tea?
yes, but one requires incredible effort and the other does notQuote:
Originally Posted by Jadae
That would be possible, but everyone knows you shouldn't mix drugs. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadae
wtf is wrong with you people. I might prefer motivation from outside sources, but I don't get why so many people like to be dependent upon caffine to feel good.
pfft
I prefer amphetamines and benzos :o
Your right, drug free is the way to go. You don't need marijuana to be relaxed and open, there is no need caffeine to stay alert. Most importantly, you don't need to alcohol to have an enjoyable experience when your partying or out at night. Simple lifestyle changes can fix the problems that these drugs solve.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP II
It doesnt make me fell good. Other than being addicted, it helps me breathe better. I remember quitting once. Even after the raging flu-like symptoms of withdrawal left, I found that I was better with caffeine. I veiw it as moderation. It is my little vice in the world that has minimal negative effects as I dont smoke and rarely ever drink (this month has been an exception with alcohol because people wont quit inviting me to parties lol but Id say I consume about 5-10% of what the other do).Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP II
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Originally Posted by niffweed17
Come on, why don't you guys just admit that caffiene, nicotine, and amphetamines are basically the same drug. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
I'd love to here how they're much worse.
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Originally Posted by Traveler
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People say this so much it may be the most hilarious lie in the world's history.
? do the other two destroy melatonin like caffeine does?
(note: based on my lack of strong knowledge in this subject, i don't know if this is totally relevant. if it isn't, feel free to rip me apart.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
from wikipedia:
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The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats.
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The median lethal dose (LD50) of caffeine is 192 mg/kg in rats.
This is bullshit. You obviously have never experienced a real "buzz" before. Get outside of your house, find some drugs, and find lyf for yourself. That's my advice to everyone :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Herzy
It's actually true. I can enjoy myself without alcohol or drugs, but honestly, I just prefer them so much that I save the good sober times for a little once in a while to keep them special. Substance highs are just so much more readily available that you might as well save the "real" shit for once in a while, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
quit telling kids to do drugs gilligan
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So, nicotine's a bit stronger, but that makes it neither worse than, or different from, caffeine. After all, wine is "stronger" then beer, but it's not worse for you than beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by niffweed17
What I was saying is that nicotine and caffeine are said to have about the same affect on you, because they have the same active ingredient. They coud have other side effects, but that's what makes them similar.
So you think it's impossible? ...Rocky, how many ENFps do you know IRL? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
Malcolm Gladwell (the "Blink" guy) thinks that caffeine created the modern world. An Edinburgh coffeeshop serves an extra-extra-strong coffee and they call it a "Keith Richards". Coffee was first known in Europe as "Arabian Wine". Bach wrote a Coffee Cantata. The heavy tea tax imposed on the colonies in 1773, which caused the "Boston Tea Party," resulted in America switching from tea to coffee. Drinking coffee was an expression of freedom. In 1900, coffee was often delivered door-to-door in the United States, by horse-pulled wagons. Italy now has over 200,000 coffee bars, and still growing. In the ancient Arab world, coffee became such a staple in family life that one of the causes allowed by law for marital separation was a husband's refusal to produce coffee for his wife. In the last three centuries, 90% of all people living in the Western world have switched from tea to coffee. Twining's English Breakfast Tea has more caffeine in it than coffee does. Known medically as trimethylxanthine, caffeine has been linked to everything from sleepless nights and jitteriness to birth defects and breast cancer. Yet caffeine is likely the most popular drug in the world -- about 90 percent of Americans consume it in one form or another every single day. A study released at the American Heart Association meeting in the fall of 2000 showed that drinking black tea promotes healthy arteries, which may explain why tea drinkers have a lower risk of heart attack and stroke. Research shows that drinking black tea relaxes and dilates arteries, increasing blood flow to the heart. Tea drinking also increased the amount of chemicals called flavonoids in the blood. Flavonoids, which give tea flavor, are antioxidant compounds that have been shown to improve artery function in people with coronary artery disease. Both green and black tea may help in the prevention of cavities and fresher breath. In a recent study, English women over 65 who drank one to six cups daily had denser skeletons than their tea-shunning peers. Although tea contains caffeine, thought to steal bone, it also has compounds that may mimic the bone-building effect of estrogen in postmenopausal women. If you take lemon with your tea, place the lemon slice in the bottom of the cup then pour on your tea. Lemon helps prevent any scum from forming on top of the tea. Give your fern a drink of tea every once ina while for a more lush looking plant. Tea suppresses the appetite and inhibits excess body fat. Drinking 4.7 cups of tea a day may reduce the risk of stroke in men. The first tea bag was sold by John Horniman in an attempt to deter the reusing of tea leaves. Ancient tea drinkers added salt to their cup. Tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world next to water.
...amazing what things you find out over the internet. :D
Good to see you posting again.Quote:
Originally Posted by schrödinger's cat
But for me, alcohol loosens me up which I need to do more of sometimes.
Pffff, I've done it. I was sober for over a month at one point this past summer. I find other things to do, but all in all, I just end up staying inside more and being in here and on the chat, which, IMO, is just as unhealthy, and (no offense) not nearly as stimulating. Besides, pretty much everyone is getting wasted at night, and how fun is it to be sober around people who are fucked up? Yeah, that's how I wanna spend my weekends :8*Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
Plenty of people have walked this road before, and plenty of them have come out just fine. I'm confident in my decision making ability, and I know that I have enough forsight to NOT do anything too rediculous.
LOL <3 ISTps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
Well, for me getting drunk is not required to loosen me up, since I am naturally that way that is why I tend to stay away from them. There's no need to sacrifice my health for it. People tend to ask me if I am drunk/high when I'm completely normal. It's like a switch and I can turn it on and driven by emotions, I will be in antic disposition. I prefer to do this when others are drunk/high around me and I tend to freak them out with my wild behaviour and don't get rejected for it. I once tried to convert my stoned friend to a fake religion and imitated a salesman trying to sell a travel package to travel around the solar system with a special deal.
"People tend to ask me if I am drunk/high when I'm completely normal."
Ive had people ask that of me before. They didnt know me very well. I played along to see their reactions lol.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
For me, it depends on how much alcohol I drink. A little loosens me up alright. Too much and I get tense because I hate the thought that I might make a fool of myself. It's like Traveler said - it's possible to get drunk without alcohol.
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Sorry. My daughter is sitting on my lap and she wanted to post something. (EDITED TO ADD: now she's counting something. "One." Then she counts it again. "One." Seriously. Another reason why I don't need alcohol or to loosen up. Being with a toddler all day must be one of the most mind-altering experiences there is.)
Good for you. In that case, wouldn't it be logically consistent to only recommend drug use to people in whose decision making ability you're confident? :?Quote:
Originally Posted by gilligan87
Well, I seriously don't think I could do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveler
I guess having a few is my happy level. The level I wish I was all day long. Like, maybe a half a bottle of wine or three beers or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by schrödinger's cat
BTW, why is alcohol considered a depressant? It seems to have the oppostie effect on me.
Again, my husband is JUST LIKE YOU. You are on some parallel younger plane or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
My husband likes to drink if we're out socially. Otherwise, he's at my side all night. But the following day or two he gets a little bit depressed. He act depressed, and I'll say, "Don't worry, you're just depressed because you were drinking, and alcohol is a depressant." It happens every single time so I really think that's the effect it's having longer-term, even though at the immediate moment it looses him up and he has more fun.
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Eh, I don't have to be confident in their judgement if I believe that all people have the right to make their own decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by schrödinger's cat
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Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
Maybe.Quote:
My husband likes to drink if we're out socially. Otherwise, he's at my side all night. But the following day or two he gets a little bit depressed. He act depressed, and I'll say, "Don't worry, you're just depressed because you were drinking, and alcohol is a depressant." It happens every single time so I really think that's the effect it's having longer-term, even though at the immediate moment it looses him up and he has more fun.