PLEASE type me - IEI or EII?

No worries Scapegrace, I see we're very different. Speaking of different, I can already tell some members around here are a bit ...special:lol:

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Originally Posted by Maritsa

so you're not a carefree type. :) That would mean that whoever typed you SEI is wrong :)

I would say you're farsighted dichotomy based on what you say in the above...let's see which types those are...

SEE is still a farsighted type.

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Not sure you can attribute any of that solely to the carefree/farsighted dichotomy.

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Originally Posted by Agarina

Heh, you can diss deltas all you like if that's what you want to do. My point was merely to point out that using highly subjective, loaded terms like "boring" or "exciting" in an attempt to help someone figure out their type isn't necessarily very helpful.

What comes to "boring", some random online dictionary defined it as "so uninteresting as to cause mental weariness". I find that satisfactory enough, and it fits how I perceive (most) SLEs. It's not so much about a person's unpredictableness, people can be unpredictable in uninteresting ways, too. Or predictable in their unpredictableness (choosing surprising activities/topics, but always interacting/going on about them in similar ways, etc).

Do you think thins "impossible to find your conflictor boring"-thing if true for everyone, or unique to Delta NF:s (and maybe some other types)? If the latter, what do you think would make Delta NF:s different? Also, do you think I'm mistyped or lying about being bored by SLEs? ;) Bleh, maybe our understanding of boredom is just very different, but you're really not making much sense to me.

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Stop attaching content that´s not there to my words. Obviously she was coming from a very subjective perspective with what she initially said, I´m sure it was pretty clear to everyone, common knowledge, you didn´t enlighten anyone. The only thing that´s not useless in this discussion is your question whether one finds their Conflictor boring. So to answer from my experience : as kkmr said, it´s at first tense and exciting , then disappointing and requiring distance because of deeply rooted misunderstandings and conflict.

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Originally Posted by darya

Hkkmr, that's very insightful and you explained it perfectly. I've never thought about I/E from this pov. Yeah, I definitely think a lot and am concerned how other people perceive me. But I think I have trouble seeing the difference between 4w3 and 3w4 in this aspect :thinking:.

I also definitely verbalize internal content in an image constructing way. I sometimes even say some of my thoughts and observation out loud, as I would be explaining them to an audience (i try to make them understandable, for example logically summarizing them, deducting information, putting conclusions into paragraphs and trying to remember them at the same time) . It's like I'm preparing material for some speech that never actually happens - thank god :lol:) I ALWAYS have others in my mind, when I'm thinking in my head, sometimes even specific people. Funny though how I hate public speeches.

God that was difficult to put into words in english. I swear I will never talk about myself after this thread dies down:lol:

One more question: do you find dichotomies accurate for typing?. Cause I think I'm more on the IEI side if going by them.

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So far you don´t seem Constructivist to me. So i´m sticking to IEI. They can be accurate, but I don't use them as the most important tool. Some are harder to spot only from a discussion , cause people often don't know themselves too well, and you have to see them in action for a longer while (eg. process-result).

@darya it's impossible to type someone based on a forum thread with Reinin Dichotomies.

I recommend you to become familiar with Model A when you're more familiar with Socionics you can use Reinin Dichotomies trying to self-type.

When I started with socionics I also picked up Reinin Dichotomies early because I thought it's a easy and accurate way for self-typing. Well it isn't at all.

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Originally Posted by darya

No worries Scapegrace, I see we're very different. Speaking of different, I can already tell some members around here are a bit ...special:lol:

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"special" as in mentally challenged?

I feel slighted! ;-)

A mentally challenged ILE? That would be like finding Bigfoot;)

"Special" as in cuckoo. But who am I to judge hehe..

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Originally Posted by AshSun

Stop attaching content that´s not there to my words. Obviously she was coming from a very subjective perspective with what she initially said, I´m sure it was pretty clear to everyone, common knowledge, you didn´t enlighten anyone. The only thing that´s not useless in this discussion is your question whether one finds their Conflictor boring. So to answer from my experience : as kkmr said, it´s at first tense and exciting , then disappointing and requiring distance because of deeply rooted misunderstandings and conflict.

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Lol, you and me sure are unable to appreciate each other's viewpoints. I don't think there's much to be gained from this discussion.

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Originally Posted by darya

A mentally challenged ILE? That would be like finding Bigfoot;)

"Special" as in cuckoo. But who am I to judge hehe..

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I Resemble That Remark ! :( :lol:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJDWd91nlI4

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Originally Posted by DaftPunk

[/B]When I started with socionics I also picked up Reinin Dichotomies early because I thought it's a easy and accurate way for self-typing. Well it isn't at all.

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Reinin is one of the more difficult topics in socionics, because many of the dichotomies are deduced and only aligned with the most limited of observations. Also many Reinin are the undercurrents which affect compatibility and not surface level interactions which are more readily apparent. A good example is merry/serious and judicious/decisive, these are two key compatibility characteristics yet within each quadra there are 4 types, 2 clubs and 4 temperaments and many differences between these individuals.

My favorite part of Reinin dichotomies is when Maritsa acts like "serious" means that people don't have a sense of humor.

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Originally Posted by DaftPunk

@darya it's impossible to type someone based on a forum thread with Reinin Dichotomies.

I recommend you to become familiar with Model A when you're more familiar with Socionics you can use Reinin Dichotomies trying to self-type.

When I started with socionics I also picked up Reinin Dichotomies early because I thought it's a easy and accurate way for self-typing. Well it isn't at all.

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This is very true.

You sound nuts. Therefore IEI>EII.

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Originally Posted by Scapegrace

My favorite part of Reinin dichotomies is when Maritsa acts like "serious" means that people don't have a sense of humor.

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exactly

point was very well made.

And you are some kind of authority on sense of humour:lol: ?

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Originally Posted by Maritsa

exactly

point was very well made.

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I'm glad we agree.