What type do you think the characters are?
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What type do you think the characters are?
oh god i loved this show. sorry, not sure on type. the main character, Piper Chapman (Taylor Schilling), looks like blackburry though.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1249518/th...K-facebook.jpg
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Piper.. maybe IEE?
Alex (her ex).. LII
Took me a while to get into the show but then I was hooked. Looking forward to the next season.
revised and updated typings
Piper - LSI-Ti sp/so 6w7
Alex, piper's gf - EIE
Larry, piper's bf - SEI
Suzanne "Crazy Eyes" Warren - IEE-Ne
Ms. Claudette - LSI
Lorna Morello, girl with the red lipstick - ESE
Sophia, transgendered hairdresser - LSE or SEE
Nicky "crazyhair" Lyonne - ILE
Tasha, library staffer who is later released - IEE
Poussey, Tasha's friend - LII-Ne
George Mendez - LSI
John, the nicer guard - LII
Daya, the girl who gets pregnant by John - SLI
Yoga Jones, the spiritual lady - IEE-Fi or EII
Galina/Red - LSE
chicken - IEI-Ni
Piper might be IEE, but some sort of Fi ego. The actual person who wrote the book imo is IEE.Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
I think Alex is LSE.
Tasha - SLE
Red - SLI? LSE?
Harvey - LSI
Pornstache - LSI
Tiffany - EIE
I love Red. She's my favorite character.
Piper: EII-Fi
Alex: ExTx 8w7
Larry: SEI-ish
Red: LSE
my favorite is definitly Alex.
season 2 is out this friday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e99SkdcB2UU
I just recently saw season 1 and love it. Out of all the characters Crazy eyes would be the type to have me on guard and possibly scared. heh
I have to chime in on this. First of all, in the prison, the ladies are definitely divided into victims/aggressors, though not the socionics meaning exactly. But there are self confident, sexually aware lesbians, who go after the more feminine ones who are not sure but are down anyway. I'm figuring this into my typing, though with my own personal logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
Let's start with the duals:
Piper - IEI. actress doesn't look too IEI, but the character definitely is.
Alex - SLE. these two are SO duals.
Nicky - ILE, agree with you
Morello - SEI
Larry - LII.
Polly, mutual best friend - ESE. this became so clear after they hooked up in the second season.
Taystee (Tasha) - IEE
Poussey - maybe SLI? I want these two to be duals so bad, but I could see Poussey as an extraverted sensing type as well.
others~
Sophia - LSE or SEE, no objections
Suzanne - IEE, I can see that
John and Daya - ugh I hate their storyline, don't care to type. John is such a p***y.
Red - LSI
Pensawtucky - ILE
staff~
Mendez - LSE
Healy - EIE
Caputo - LSE
Figueroa - LIE
The new female prison guard with the big eyes - ESI
Piper - IEE
Larry - SEI
Alex - LSE
I'm going with IEI for Piper. Se > Ne valuing and Fe > Fi.
Lorna: SEI
the nun: EII
Caputo: LSE
Figueroa: LSI
What about Soso? She doesn't annoy me like she does the characters in the show.
Will think about other typings.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by blood moon
I re-watched the second season and believe I was wrong about some typings.Quote:
Originally Posted by blood moon
Mendez is LSI
Red is ILE. Confusing because the actress has that solid ST look. But then Vee calls her a "not a fighter, but a schemer." Also explains why Mendez was her nemesis for some time.
And completely sure of my typing of Larry and Polly. If you want to see a textbook example of how infantile/caregiver couples hook up, just watch them.
I have no firm opinions on their types, but I love the show. Red and Sister Ingalls are two of my favorites characters.
Your typing of Piper as IEE is interesting because that's also what you type yourself as, whereas I'm pretty sure (i.e. IMO) both are ESI.Quote:
Originally Posted by suedehead
It wasn't because I related to her, because I don't. I can't justify those typings entirely because I only saw one episode and I don't remember much from it. It's possible.
heh, okay.
i've been binge-watching the show since last night. it's girly, but good.
I take back my previous typings. I think Piper is ESI and Alex is LSE.
...what is girly about it? You must have only seen like the first two episodes if that's the word you decided on to best describe this show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio
are you offended that i called this show girlyQuote:
Originally Posted by blood moon
I could see EII for John.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio
okay, now that i've watched all of it, here are my typingssss (if you disagree, you are wrong):
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...perChapman.png
Piper Chapman: Fi-ESI (actress is LSI i think)
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Alex_Vause.png
Alex Vause: Ni-EIE
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...50px-Nicky.jpg
Nicki: Te-SLI
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...na_Morello.png
Morello: Fi-IEE (even her neurosis is typical of IEEs)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2.../250px-Red.jpg
Red: Si-LSE? Ti-ILE?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...nneInfobox.png
Suzanne "Crazy Eyes" Warren: Ne-IEE
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._claudette.PNG
Ms. Claudette: LSE/LIE not sure which <3 (best character in season 1)
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...romo2_crop.jpg
Sophia: i'm actually not sure beyond Fi/Te
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...0px-Healy1.png
Mr. Healy: Fi-EII
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...px-GeorgeM.jpg
Mendez: Se-LSI
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ettInfobox.png
Bennett: Te-LIE (yes this is what most LIE males are like)
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Jefferson.png
Taystee: Fe-ESE? Ne-ILE? one of those two
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...px-Poussey.jpg
Poussey: Ti-LSI? i actually don't know. Fe/Ti introvert. (best character in season 2, hands down)
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...s1_cropped.jpg
Pennsatucky: Ti-ILE (appropriately conflictor bad-guy for the gamma heroine)
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...-Miss_Rosa.jpg
Ms. Rosa: Se-SLE <3 (Mrs. Rosa + Morello could take over the world)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...nfobox_vee.PNG
Vee: Ni-EIE (evillll subtype)
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...0px-BigBoo.png
Big Boo: Se-SEE
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...oseph_2507.jpg
Caputo: LSE? similar neurotic energy.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...obox_brook.PNG
Brook/Soso: annoying fucking Fi-IEE
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...anara_diaz.jpg
Daya: Si-SLI (worst character/storyline)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...rfw0o1_500.png
Susan: SEI? EII?
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...._15.54.44.png
Electrical guy: Ne-ILE
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...250px-Yoga.png
Yoga Jones: Ne-IEE (there are way too many IEEs in this show and all of them are a little fucked up.)
the rest of the characters i don't really care about. Larry is possible LIE, piper's brother is possible SEI, his brother's girlfriend is possible SLE. umm so yeah.
Huh. Well, this is a far better typing for her than IEE, in any case. I can see where you're coming from here, but I would think ESIs would be a lot less likely to cheat and do some of the other fucked up things she did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio
I can see where you're coming from here, too.Quote:
Alex Vause: Ni-EIE
Nicki: Te-SLI
LOL. If so, I can't think of any I've known irl.Quote:
Bennett: Te-LIE (yes this is what most LIE males are like)
Yeah. :)Quote:
Poussey: (best character in season 2, hands down)
I could see Si dominance for her, but I'm not sure I buy strong Te or Te/Fi valuing.Quote:
Daya: Si-SLI
I could sorta see him as Bennet's identical a weak-ass Se sort of way.Quote:
Larry is possible LIE
What about the assistant warden?
Does anybody have any other input for Mr. Healy? I like him as a character, and have on a few occasions found it hard to understand the bad rap he gets from the inmates.
Lesbians, not necessarily women in general. I can't say that I agree with that part, but I think/hope that they are attempting to develop his character into something more. There have been obvious attempts at his trying to show the good parts of himself that weren't apparent at a first glance, and he is obviously still willing to help the girls - lesbian or not. The mail-order bride was probably a coping mechanism for loneliness. I find the way his wife treats him and his attempts to make the relationship work more disturbing than anything.
Haven't seen all of season 2, but Vee is EIE and Soso is IEE.
Piper's actress is so insanely ESI that it throws my typing of her off. She's obviously a 6, though.
I like Radio's typings, and his picture-containing post is specially suitable for being quoted.
I concur. Fi is strong in her. Her goal in life, to develop and particularize her interactions with people, which are an essential part of her nature and not a sort of "resource" in a more Fe-esque way. Even if they are damaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio
Yep. Steve Jobs in a woman's body. Dislike both the character and the actress.Quote:
I disagree, even if I'm not sure which one is correct. She's too extroverted, social and emotionally expressive (including positive ones) when compared with an average Fe PoLR. Ep of some sort, I would say, excluding IEE.Quote:
Uhm, interesting. I had not thought beyond Fi ego. If her neurosis are typical of an IEE, this could explain one case I know IRL (although not so severe).Quote:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...na_Morello.png
Morello: Fi-IEE (even her neurosis is typical of IEEs)
I love this character. I would pick up LSE; she's quite imaginative, but always in a practical way, no-nonsense so to speak. An example that LSEs can be awesome when they control their domineering trend (which is still present) and do not get obsessed with doing things by the book.Quote:
Too damaged for being typed. Not sure.Quote:
No idea.Quote:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._claudette.PNG
Ms. Claudette: LSE/LIE not sure which <3 (best character in season 1)
Not sure. Fi-SEE?Quote:
Here I disagree. He's a softcore delta ST, but still ST. He's interested in people (due to his work, which he values even if not fulfilling), but has a Te mindset, not Fi. Probably SLI due to Fi-HA and too quiet and laissez-faire behavior for an EJ, or even IJ,Quote:
Totally.Quote:
Will comment later.Quote:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ettInfobox.png
Bennett: Te-LIE (yes this is what most LIE males are like)
The first one. Annoying ESE.Quote:
Could be, but Se is so weak that I'm considering Ti-LII. She seems though, but has troubles confronting others beyond exposing moral judgements. Quite unable to impose her will, and has certain idealistic naïveté.Quote:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...px-Poussey.jpg
Poussey: Ti-LSI? i actually don't know. Fe/Ti introvert. (best character in season 2, hands down)
She has conflicted, but not necessarily is her conflictor. Easily adopted and integrated religious worldviews even when she originally was not a believer. An ILE could fake beliefs in her own benefit, but hardly would change mind due to so ridiculous reasons. Could be, but I'm more inclined to some sort of beta NF. Maybe a particularly dumb EIE.Quote:
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...s1_cropped.jpg
Pennsatucky: Ti-ILE (appropriately conflictor bad-guy for the gamma heroine)
Agree.Quote:
Agree, but not the same ennegram as Alex. 3w4 (here) versus 7w6 (or at least 3w2).Quote:
I'm more inclined towards Se-SLE.Quote:
Could be.Quote:
Extremely annoying, yes. The kind or "crazy newager" I would punch in her face.Quote:
But I think Ne-IEE could fit better. Quite energetic (enhaced Pe temperament) and more focused in her particular ideas, whatever they could be, than in her interactions.
Dont you like your [semi]dual? :pQuote:
Agree Si-SxI.
A bit more stiff and higher sense of duty than the average SEI. EII imo. A particularly likeable one.Quote:
Yep.Quote:
LOL. Yes, Ne-IEE. Although not so annoying as Soso.Quote:
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...250px-Yoga.png
Yoga Jones: Ne-IEE (there are way too many IEEs in this show and all of them are a little fucked up.)
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the rest of the characters i don't really care about. Larry is possible LIE, piper's brother is possible SEI, his brother's girlfriend is possible SLE. umm so yeah.
About Larry and Bennet, I'm a bit surprised about LIE typings. Both seemed LII to me, bennet more Ij-ish and Larry more Ep-ish, or even ILE. They do not fit in my "mental image" of LIEs (which would be closer to Figueroa).
But it is true LIE is probably the type I have had more troubles upgrading from the MBTI times (or one of them). LIEs seem to be softened ENTJs (talking about archetypal description), less Se and less J. No few MBTI ENTJs are probably SLEs, LSIs, or LSEs.
I have never considered LIE for myself because I do not think I'm "worthy" (assertive enough), even if I could be sometimes domineering (much more than average Ne PoLRs) and I have certain "Se-HA desires" . But if they are actually LIEs, who knows...
Could you offer to me a real life example of an non assertive (like these characters) but clear cut LIE?
mmm this guy maybe:Quote:
Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIJThk-eTAM
similar energy / also almost universally typed as LIE (if i'm not wrong). i'm not sure if he's really as non-assertive, though.
I pretty much agree with all of Radio's typings.
Piper Chapman: ESI (also mega E6)
Alex Vause: Ni-EIE
Nicki: Te-SLI
Morello: Fi-IEE seems to work, possibly E4
Red: LSE
Suzanne Warren: ILE… or maybe SLE, but only b/c she reminds me of a female ODB
Ms. Claudette: IXXj?
Sophia: EXXx
Mr. Healy: EII
Mendez: Se-LSI
Bennett: Te-LIE
Poussey: Fi/Te something
Pennsatucky: Ti-ILE
Ms. Rosa: Se-SLE
Vee: Ni-EIE
Big Boo: SEE/SLE
Joe Caputo: δ-ST?
Brook/Soso: Fi-IEE
Susan Fischer: Si-SEI
Joel Luschek: Ne-ILE
Yoga Jones: Ne-IEE
Natalie Figueroa: IEI?
Larry Bloom: LIE?
Howard Bloom: LSE
Polly Harper: LSI?
Ah, that guy. I remember him from the video about 3D-printing guns. I agree he's LIE, but I think he's still assertive (7w8 or 8). But he seems to be quite well balanced, therefore it's not so evident as in other cases. I was looking for something more in the line of an E6 LIE, which is the kind of LIE that Bennet could be if he's one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio
Thanks anyway.
Interesting. Now that you mention this option, it's true she has quite similarities with Daenerys Targaryen, who is mostly typed as IEI (and I agree).Quote:
Originally Posted by mfckr
I will have to rethink my previous position of not considering LIE as a potential typing. I have no few similarities with the first one IRL, and when I'm in a friendly environment I tend to behave close to the second one (although more cynical).Quote:
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Bennett: Te-LIE
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Larry Bloom: LIE?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylen
I have actually really grown to love crazy eyes, she just needs lots of reassurance. The following are mostly guesses without much consideration.
Piper I though ESI
Alex EIE/SLE sort of see both
Crazy eyes IEE Ne
Red LSE
Yoga Lady IEE
Workshop dude SLI
Ex druggie emotional go to lady SLI
Italian stalker lady IEE Fi
Tasty SEE
... will come back to this after i watch some more... need my fix, so into this
I don't get where so many people are getting ESI for Piper... She seemed infantile EII to me.. Anyone care to point out few examples of why Se> Ne... And why Ne PoLr over Se PoLr? Muchos gracias.
(I also thought actress was LSI from interviews... Seemed to dig Fe)
Haven't caught any of season two :(....
Lol... Piper makes someone masterbate for a blanket..?
It is true her Se seems a bit subdued. Not intimidating, agressive or too domineering, but the overall character behaves as a whole closer to ESI than EII (most people have in mind Fi-sub when they're typing her).Quote:
Originally Posted by blackburry
Being the constant victim of her EIE girlfriend machinations makes her to look a bit naïve, but this is not close to the Se PoLR kind of idealizations (detachment from present-time and sensory reality). If you compare the "strongest EII" (~E1) with a soft ESI variant, you cant still observe that the EII mind usually orbits around a certain ideal, abstract concept or non tangible purpose in life, whereas the ESI does not. She lives pretty much for interacting with people here and now, so to speak. And even if she's not an Se master, she has still enjoyed being a sort of dominating woman when she has been able to and definitely is not conflict avoidant. Two aspects much more uncommon in EIIs (specially the first one).
Her sexuality (kind of sexuality, not amount of sexuality) seems also closer to Se valuer. Although this is a weaker indicator.
By the way, the correct way of saying "thank you" in Spanish is "muchas gracias", with an a. Sorry for correcting you, but as my mother tongue is not usual here, I felt as I had to point this.
Maybe.
K.
just getting into season 2... some relevant typings
piper: Se-ESI 6w7 sx
alex: Ni-EIE 3w4 sx/sp
nicki: Te-ILI (considered Se-LSI as well but she doesn't seem rational, some EP may be another option, but I really don't see where people are getting delta from)
morello: Fi-IEE, maybe 3w2
crazy eyes: Ne-IxE
ms. claudette: Fi-ESI 1w9 sp
red: Si-LSE 8w9... a good example of an aristocratic EJ holding things down without being overly imposing
mendez: LSI 6w7... and lol
bennet: Te-sub gamma NT, leaning extroverted
taystee: Fe-ESE... mildly annoying
daya: Xi-sub delta irrational, and boring
mr. healy: Ne-EII, probably 9w1 sx-last
poussey: Se-LSI... a good example of Se in the context of prison
pennsatucky: Ti-sub xLE, leaning democratic because of her levity and absurdity but unsure
larry: Fi-IEE, off chance of SEI but I don't see much Fe
boo: Se-SxE, leaning gamma because of her more offhand and somewhat indifferent style, probably a 7
sophia: Fi-SEE 3w2, off chance of ESI but I don't really see rational
caputo: Te-sub delta ST
yoga lady: Ne-IEE, probably a 9
electrical guy: Xe-sub alpha irrational
natalie figuero: maybe LIE
Quote:
Originally Posted by suedehead
Piper: Se-ESI
Alex: SLE>EIE
Sam Healy: EII
Ms. Claudette: xSI
Red: LSE
Larry: Fi-IEE
Crazy eyes: Ne-IEE
Tasha: Fe-ESE
Nicky: Fe-PoLR>Fi-PoLR
Pennsatucky: ILE
Sophia: Fi-SEE
Daya: SLI
Morello: IEE
Poussey: Beta ST
Tricia: SLx
Boo: Se-SEE
Yoga Jones: IEE
Aleida Diaz: SLE>EIE
Mendez: Se-LSI
John Bennett: LII or LIE
Caputo: LSE
Figueroa: Beta ST or LIE
Luschek: Ne-ILE
Polly: ESE
Susan Fischer - SEI
Watson - SLI
This is a pretty good show. Red definitely seems LSE; her giving stuff to people to get them in her favor seems to fit creative Si and she seems to care about people by being against drugs (Fi related for her probably). Can see EIE for Vee pretty easily. Not against ESI for Piper. Sophia seems SEI-Si, while Morello could probably be SEI-Fe; you can kind of see the difference in subtype, one is neurotic with Fe, despite being an introvert. Healy is kind of weird; he seems to be repulsed by lesbians and cursing (Si prolly) and he gives up really easily when stuff doesn't seem to work out, so maybe that's an Se PoLR thing, not sure, but EII probably makes sense. Alex seems SLE, which is funny in regards to Piper having a lot of Fi; I feel like it's kind of a contentious point between them, socionics or not. That one lesbian competing with Boo on sex is most likely SLI. Miss Claudette seemed LSE.
Mr. Caputo is interesting. I can see the Te, maybe LSE fits him more over LIE. Guess they will develop his character more. I think Gloria might be LIE.