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Most realistic and/or lasting ("real") relationships happen in the course of other pursuits. That's not to say that dating sites can't be helpful or aren't advisable, but trying to force someone to take a certain path to fulfillment isn't going to end well. You'll end up wishing you hadn't tried to squash someone into a persona or mold that isn't natural for him. Eventually, all people will be themselves, even if only in small ways.
showering you (and potentially everyone) with compliments in such a way, that you're convinced they just wanna get you (and potentially everyone, at least 25% of them) into bed from second 1. talking as if they were drunk at least half of the time. being a buncha moving contradictions that not even they can explain (Ti, man). showing off their cars, moneis, women (..?..), or any kind of prowess, no matter how small. seeming kinda random once in a while. popping up when u least expect them. saying the most bizarre stuff (but not idiotic) as in a trance sometimes. talking about how they're turned on by intelligence or cerebral stuff and kinda sapiosexual to some extent ..in a way that would make you 100%sure they're just bs-ing unless u knew smth. about Ni-seeking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narc
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Such a great title.
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I lived with my brothers SEE gf for a couple of years, we hated each other at first and we couldn't stop getting into heated arguments for the first month or 2. I guess what made things better was we both are a bit mean, bossy, like to talk crap, SEE is entertaining and a bit charming after you don't see them as threat or someone who will piss you off. SEE also helps ILI navigate in the social world, i learned a lot by watching SEE bullshit her way through everything LOL. After awhile we just became like brother and sister, voodoo magic.
ESI is a good choice and its a very easily start for ILI to start a relationship with ESI.
This should sound like wisdom and golden rain for you, if you're his dual. Coz that's the only way someone can tolerate them when they do that (or try to). You don't feel like pouring arsenic in their food if you're the dual.Quote:
Originally Posted by NotDoingWork
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that. The SEEs that I know can be sentimental, but it is more pragmatic than my sentimentality. If something gets broken, lost or stolen, they are like, "Damn! Oh, well..." They get over that kind of loss so much more easily than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmers
My SEE hubby gets over anything way to quickly (which bothers me, since it takes time for that, but not for him.)
Tends to easily just throw something away, just because it doesn't work. Very fixable, he'd rather just not have it, buy another eventually. That's crazy most of the time.
I'm a saver, he's a disposer.
I collect, he consumes.
Sentimentality is something he has very little value for. Compared to me especially.
I recall when I first saw him. I really thought nothing of him. He was just a guy. Over the next week I saw him more (in group situations) and I was interested pretty fast. I think it mostly happened that we super connected standing in front of Videos, looking for one to rent for us and my friend to watch. I knew that whole time, since I'd gotten interesting, he was the one I was looking for, I only had to stick around and wait for him to do something.
I have a lot of SEE friends who want a match
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Originally Posted by crazymaisy
lol wtf is this. How did the dude dualize you anyway, you still sound ILI like cray.
cool manifestation of negativism btw.
I think it depends on the type of sentimentality you're looking at. For me, I don't value a home sentimentally at all. To me, it has always been just a place with four walls, easily excahangeable for another. Some people aren't like that and really do value the places they live, imbuing them with a certain lasting emotion. Perhaps I'll change when I'm older, but for me a home is a place for sleep and to do things solo without interference from the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazymaisy
Thanks :content:Quote:
Originally Posted by Agni
We've been married 20+ years. He was my best friend by the time we were engaged. It was pretty fast, met early Dec.then engaged in June, married in Sept. We as a unit are dualized. Normal to each other. Benefit from each other. Our first 4 years of marriage were just us, then kids arrived. It's a vanilla existence with highs and lows, comfortable, safe,
He travels for work, so I have plenty of me time. I'm still ILI and that won't go away. :) Dualization doesn't remove one's own personality, only refines it, strengthens it. When we are together we are one. When we are apart we function indivdually as needed.
I've gone through these phases in my life where I've been Se seeking. I moved away from being this introverted, science and math nerd in high school, to working out, running, focusing on how to pick up women(mostly with the advice from an SEE roommate) in college. Then I sort of lost interest in those things because they seemed pointless to me. A couple of years ago, I went through this other awkward phase where I started buying bright colored clothing and was into learning how to dance. I never felt so spontaneous in my life, but then I lost interest in that. I think the Se mindset would be really good for me, but I can't except it as a worldview to live by.
I'm skeptical of SEEs. Too aggressively wayward.
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I could share mine (through a part time contract), I kind of suspect some form of bisexuality anyway. Send pics to check your hotness and general reliability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Shadow
I am skeptical that SEEs are great at sex. I am after all, an empiricist.....mostly
Se base is quite decent at sex ime ... I have only been with one SEE, but the 2 SLEs I know also performed well. I take it almost as an implacable hard fact of this function. Hardly any complain except for the fact that we could barely find real topics to talk about when going out and stuff; we kind of had to explore several pubs/restaurants in one evening to feel alive and not "empty" together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmers
ILIs are distrustful and that's what makes them kind and good-natured souls.
Maybe those who haven't matured and haven't stopped to consider how their words and actions affect other people, lack impulse control, and so on. I think some are so caught up and focused on what's going on around them/outside of them and responding to external stimuli that they fail to see the impact (positive or negative) they are making and therefore don't see themselves as aggressively wayward, as you put it, that others do, and I do know some who are in fact aggressively wayward to the point that people, myself included, have shunned them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
However, plenty are considerate, mature, have self-control, and exercise common sense and thus restraint. Like with all sociotypes, the SEE type varies considerably from person to person in a given time in that person's life, depending on a lot of factors. Doesn't make socionics any less relevant or valid (as some assert the contrary if socionics cannot predict personality and behavior [at least to the extent that some assume socioncis does]).
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Originally Posted by Maritsa
You are a very intelligent person. Why wouldn't he want your type?
I'm not. Because open your eyes. There is one right in this very thread.