Is it a way to mask their insecurities by acting cocky? To me it's exaggerated self-confidence.
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Is it a way to mask their insecurities by acting cocky? To me it's exaggerated self-confidence.
You're quick to assume they're Se-egos...
I'm far from Se ego, and I've been called cocky.
Cocky is a quality commonly associated with extraversion and positivism (i.e. empowering behavior - Se-SxE, Ne-IxE, Ni-xIE and Si-xSE are cocky).
Se dominants often apply force equally everywhere. I do not think it is specifically to be "cocky", because that would require active or reactive response, which I do not believe to be specific to this sort of temperament theory. Se dominants are not that much different. Again, however, premeditation is not specific to this sort of theory.
"The Ne? The Ne cannot TOUCH me."
it's part of mY sense of humor to be cockY at times... but its alwaYs a joke when i do it. a joke about how seriouslY awesome i am.
no but i don't actuallY come across as cockY irl. i'm not verY confident, but i make an effort to appear so because good things happen when You do.
I've noticed both Se and Si egos start with the letter S and S stands for socionics. Type related?
I love jokingly being cocky.
I don't get cockiness from most any Se types I know in person, especially true for the Gamma SFs. Any Se types that demonstrate perceived cockiness to me are all enneagram assertive triads (3s, 7s, and 8s.
I'm talking more like bragging about how many pushups they do, how they don't back down from anything, how smart they were about something, etc. Obviously not all of them will be like that, but I've been seeing that trend. Things like "well yeah, if I had the same X as that person I'd be as successful or more". I've actually seen it more from Gamma SFs than Betas, Galen.
As the thread was progressing, this is what my mind kept settling on, bc I know that I can find certain people in my life habitually *very* aggressive though their apparent Socionics types are not known stereotypically for that quality. I think it has to do with what we're comfortable with.
Cocky cocks are more visible. When you see something cocky, there's a good chance it's Se ego. If you see a more restrained Se ego, you don't take notice.
Guys are what usually come to mind, haven't really seen cocky women of those types (lol at "cocky women"). With time I've been considerably less intimidated by Se stuff, and can more or less filter out when something is on purpose, joke, or whatever. Actually my initial inclination is to consider it as a joke, but then it becomes apparent to me that the person is really cocky.
Lol! And yes, I do take notice of the restrained ones, but to me they're not a lot.
it sounds more like some form of compensation for lack of real Se. faking it till you make it.
What is being "cocky" mean?
All self-confidence and true power is kind of annoying to be honest. I know when I'm super good at something, and nobody else can see it, and only I can, and it's like I gotta lead the group, and it's frustrating, because I know all this power I have will just distance me from others. I think that's why I kinda downplay myself a lot irl. I'm obviously incredibly and blatantly powerful in many ways, but it's a little scary. I know how jealous and insecure people get when they're around self-confident and happy people. "They like you better when you're depressed." Esther Hicks.
You will never be SEE.
I don't think you really even WANT to be; maybe if you knew more SEEs and didn't rely on comparisons to Caesar and some descriptions' inflation of their provocativeness or "sexual power" or whatever, you would see this. I think you are Beta NF, and the image you seem to have in your head of what you want to be, is more typical of Beta NFs than SEEs. You are just misguided.
Just because it's still in my signature doesn't mean I actually believe it entirely. I've just left it since the last time I changed it. Provocativeness or "sexual power" umm... no I don't see the latter in their descriptions. I don't really consider myself "sexually powerful" tbh. Passionate and intense yes, but not "powerful". Just making that clear.
I think to some extent you have it right. I think that if any type wanted to hide their insecurities emphasizing their leading function and showing it off would be the most natural and common method.
On the other hand cockiness is something that sort of naturally comes with Se. I mean it's displayed in different ways, sometimes in very unhealthy and disruptive ways, but in general a healthy Se dominant, I assume, would view themselves as a very capable individual and as the Se dominant becomes less healthy they increasingly need some external feedback that they are capable. I also view part of the importance of Ni to Se dominants is to remind them how much effort or work actually needs to be put into an activity and, to put it dramatically, dampen their god complex.
Though, of course, cockiness is something that can, and does, exist in every type.
your mom likes a bit of cocky
edit: ime, what is said at face value is to be taken at face value to understand it. In other words: some people say cocky shit just to say it. Sometimes it doesn't even mean a thing. The only deeper thing I get of it is that more often than not it's said for the audience who expects them to act macho and buys into their talk. I tend not to buy into it and typically the talk stops there and we really talk without talking through a false image.
Like when your mom says she loves you and you mean the world to her.
I see it as military fascism.Quote:
Yeah, I know Se egos, especially Se leading folk who have that reputation of acting all macho and a lot of people buy into it and they keep it up and probably because of the unsaid expectation. I don't buy into it and interestingly they quickly drop the act around me and we can just be our selves.
I can't read right now so I don't know anything previous to me shouting my thoughts across the interwebs, but the people I've generally typed as Se-dominant tend to be, at their best, assertive without being overbearing, confident, relatively focused in what they've thought about (they aren't generalists so much). As such, they're usually pretty good at what they're doing and they don't give a damn about most things outside their particular sphere of whatever. Huh, I wonder if this really means anything. Could be useless. It's just a magnetic feeling towards them or something, like they've got momentum and gravity, like they're a legitimate force in the universe and maybe, just maybe, they make you start to consider whether you want to remain an object or become something more...directional?
When I'm playing miss fortune in league, she sometimes tells me to not get cocky. This has helped me tremendously as the champion is quite immobile. Some of the best advice I've ever received.
all it takes to be cocky is to be complimented or supported one too many times. cockiness is one of those hubristic characteristics, so it is in yours and the person you're encouraging's benefit to be honest or, if there's little to be said about the merit of the deed, to tend towards criticality.
Nah. It's not Se.. Se are more humble.. NT..are more cocky.. Enfj are cocky..
I find enfj more cocky than estps..
Esfps aren't that cocky at all..
Se dom as cocky debunked..
Cocky are those Te users. And Ni.