ughhhhh i hate this topic. she's so alpha sf
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ughhhhh i hate this topic. she's so alpha sf
idk Allie, none of the Ti men really want to claim her. lol
hey that's not fair, no one does lolQuote:
Originally Posted by glamourama
I agree with Allie, Ashton, and others, I think she's SEI.
Hkkmr, that response in the interview, I would say is actually a bit more Fe than Fi. Besides, certain one-line responses are generally not reliable indicators of someone's overall personality. Not sure what type Vanessa Hudgens is to compare.
Maybe the confusion is over how the Fe is made clear? Guys, SEIs aren't as bubbly or outgoing as ESEs. They're more charmers, entertainers, polite with ther creative Fe, just like IEIs. Don't confuse creative Fe with Gamma Fi.
Then I'll take her! MIRROR ftw!! XDQuote:
Originally Posted by glamourama
HEY GUYZ, LET'S WALK INTO PUBLIC BATHROOMS BAREFOOT!! :biggrin: YES, GREAT IDEA!!!
i know this is going to make me seem gross, but it's actually attractive to me that she'd do that. :) I think Brittany would be cool to hang out with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Dew
SEE, and I can mark a post as deconstructive if someone is an arrogant, annoying, know-it-all type? Yeah, I'm looking at you, MD.
I love her newer cds. They are like.... sooo narcissistically perfect. (Mine & dolphin's favorite phrase)
Her older stuff like 'hit me baby one more time' I'm not too crazy about. Idk what it is, the songs seem too simple and justin bieber-ish in that time period. It's like they're just begging for something MORE done to them.
I think she's a sweet girl, who gets too much pressure from hollyweird to constantly change. I can't worship her as much as fefe dobson though, since fefe is just more 'me' and my style.
Leave Britney ALONE, people!!!! Everyone, just leave her ALONE!!
(Not aimed at you B&D, didn't see you'd replied until I opened the thread to reply again.)
she is LSE. confirmed.
No, Hk is right. That is a good example of an Fi response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Dew
PLZ humble yourself, you just thought you were LSI :lol:
also, poli you still can't type.
She's an obvious SEE
As I said before, just two small samples of what I think is representative of their personalities. If you want to research and post contra-evidence about this I'm willing to look at it, but I think this is more representative of her pattern of discussion. She talks mostly of her personal preferences vs either experiences she has or emotional content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Dew
And no, that's not Fe. Fe is the activitation of potential energy(basically what gets your butt moving), and she basically ignored it and instead focused on her personal preferences while promoting a collaboration.
I've gone thru Brittney's interviews before and the Fe and Si content Vanessa Hudgen's encapsulates in one twitter text is more then the content I've been able to gather from all those interviews.
well i don't want her as gamma sf, so i'd like to propose a compromise and we can all settle on LSE. sound fair question mark
Is there consensus on this? I know a few people who seem a lot like her.Quote:
Originally Posted by polikujm
As for me, I dont disagree.
Britney Spears has always struck me as an SEI.
xSFp
She seems so obviously SEI to me that I don't even know how to argue it.
But this kinda clear divide is illuminating as to what one thinks about the two types involved here. I think Paul McCartney is another person like this where people are pretty much split between a Gamma and Alpha SF type. Collecting more clear divides like this could be useful for shedding light on the differences in our views on socionics.
"lol"Quote:
Originally Posted by JRiddy
Are you annoyed by me because I was arrogant, or because I offered an opinion that was different than yours? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother Slacker
Haha definitely. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicgoat
Yeah, I like the older stuff alright, it was incredibly popular at the time. Just a different era in music.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves
Still don't know what your problem is. We're discussing Britney Spears in a Britney Spears thread. Hard to "leave her alone", when she is the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother Slacker
"Just" was forever ago. I feel I understand so much more now, ever since truly accepting my ESE-ness.Quote:
Originally Posted by thePirate
Ok ok, I've never been a fan of 'well the rest of my argument is assumed', when I feel people should bring evidence to the discussion, for what specifically they want to prove. Perhaps in this case, now the burden falls on me to provide proof of Si.Quote:
Originally Posted by hkkmr
See, I view her response and "she basically ignored it and instead focused on her personal preferences..." as Si, not Fi. Preferring her leading function Si over going with Fe. In fact, I see this as the key point in this discussion. I think we both can agree Britney Spears has a more laid-back nature and air about her, and I think that is why everyone is disagreeing, some seeing Fi, others seeing Si.Quote:
Originally Posted by hkkmr
For me, I still vote SEI. :lol: No need to half-agree on LSE, when neither of us thinks that's right. XD It's better to stick with your true opinion, and respect the opinions of others who disagree. So those who vote LSE, don't vote LSE just because you want to avoid conflict, haha. :P
I vote LSE because I use my Ne and my boyfriends Te to confirm it. You would not understand this because you value Ti. Hearing your attacks on me is not good for my health, my boyfriends Si also confirms this. You are on my ignore list.
:thinking: I can't tell if you're pretending to be Maritsa or not. When did I attack you?Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicgoat
I cannot read your attacks on me Mountain Dew because you are on my ignore list.
Britney Jean Spears is confimed SLE type.
Mountain Dew I cannot pretend to be Maritsa because I am EII type and EII type values honesty.
I dunno, but the differences between the two should be night-and-day to everyone, but if it's not clear I'll try to explain it briefly: I think Andrea is a good example of what an, even stereotypical, SEE would be like in an interview compared to someone like Spears, esp. regarding :Fi:-:Fe: differences. Comparatively there's a lot more under-the-surface personal ethics being revealed with her every word and she seems to have a clear and ongoing stance of what resonates and what doesn't. You see her actual attitude "towards" things and isn't trying to come off any certain way, where as a type like Britney isn't very attuned to this subjective kind of value process, and it seems all these little personal preferences don't matter so much as long as she's discussing/doing something she feels ethically appropriate for the moment and setting. She definitely seems calculating and trying to keep things light; on one side she has this emotive openness to her poise, and in the other she has that very personal front (to me) I'm not used to seeing with Fi types, where I personally don't really get a feel for what she is all about. If she's an SEE she's holding back her :Fi: a lot. Instead she seems to know how to pull off a social feel, even though she's introverted, by displaying her emotions and "general attitude" in a certain way.Quote:
Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon
A lot of her images show this off this :Fe:-impact driven feel to me as well, with the :Si: sort of straight forwardness you don't get with IEIs.
http://www.contactmusic.com/videoima...-womanizer.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0ZvFxgnM5H...e_style_12.jpg
If you can't smell an Fe-creative female at this point then not sure what else to argue. I have no idea how she would be SEE or where that idea even came from.
MD: Lots of people disagree with me in this thread, but only you annoy the heck out of me. It's just you. It really is possible to disagree with people without insulting everyone.
The LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE thing comes from this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&feature=youtube_gdata_player (if it doesn't work google "leave britney alone!") IT'S A JOKE!
ENFP
it's weird so many people see her as S
ESFJQuote:
Originally Posted by polikujm
and this fake dude seems to be ENFJQuote:
Originally Posted by Mother Slacker
I was right in making fun of him, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
Not sure why you quoted me in this, as my post was referring to your post on Andrea Boehlke being SEE. I was asking whether there was consensus on that typing, as I know a few people who remind me a lot of her in that video.Quote:
Originally Posted by polikujm
I dont disagree that Britney Spears is SEI, that's been my opinion so far as well. But I do see what hkkmr is saying, which is compelling evidence of Fi-valuing to be considered...
<cringe> @ leave britney alone video... Thanks a lot Slacker!! :p I was hoping to never see that again!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
but yes Sol I agree with you that he's EIE... he actually reminds me a lot of the forum member Newborn STAR.
house divided
Is this one of those instances where the celeb's public image is enough at odds with the true personality that typing becomes difficult? Especially ... well, Britney Spears doesn't seem to know herself very well ... child star, poor education, juvenile sex symbol. I think the image that was crafted for her of singing dance hits with controversial elements and performing semi-naked doesn't match with what appear to be somewhat shy, vulnerable, goofy, and childlike personal qualities. And I have no idea if she'd had a more normal life so far what she would be like.
Unless it's just drugs or mental illness or something, I have a hard time seeing her as an extrovert, because she is so, so floating around in her own little world while surrounded by activity. Even onstage she often has seemed this way, kind of absorbed in herself, when she was supposed to be more outgoing and is totally trained to engage with the audience.
Yeah i think u have a really great point there... I do think this is a huge component of the difficulty in typing her.Quote:
Originally Posted by CONFIMED
do the current poll results warrant the ESFp typing being called the mainstream one?
yes.
http://www.ubim.org/wp-content/uploa...1/01/T-rex.jpg
THEN IT"S SETTLED!!
thus spake the SETTLEREX
If you're going by that then you will get many Extraverts and Introverts confused for each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by CONFIMED
http://translate.google.com/translat..._people%3D8539
6 for IEE, 6 for SEE, 6 for ESE; ExFx is unanimous.
I don't really think so. I'm not talking about doing your own thing or having a personal world, but this kind of remoteness and inwardness she shows as her default--I mean, really, almost all the time, in all contexts.
Static Extraverts may seem more introverted and self-absorbed than Dynamic Extraverts. I don't know the reason myself, but I suspect it has to do with not relating to the environment and acting more on one's on accord, something I've also seen stated by various others.
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Originally Posted by DarkAngelFireWolf69 DCNH
Imma.....slaaaaaaav, for you....
My thought too actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashton
That's not Fi valuing, that's just what all Fe types do when they're asked personal questions too. What I described of :Fi: that was in the SEE's video is definitely not a self-sustained theme for Spears, certainly not ongoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon
But like ashton said, even if we are so sure of her type, explaining it as much as we can isn't going to be enough to change anyone's opinion.
