Britney Spears

Anyone? Their relationship type?

Brit: ENFJ
Kevin: ENTP

Just curious. Poor Britney.

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You know I have always hated that little cunt....

Poor fucking kids. People like that should not breed.

IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

For some reason I have always been torn about Spears. I think she is an ISFp, after all the dust clears. Doesn't seem to a strong enough extravert to be much more than a bouncy ISFp, you know?

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For some reason I have always been torn about Spears. I think she is an ISFp, after all the dust clears. Doesn't seem to a strong enough extravert to be much more than a bouncy ISFp, you know?

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Definitely a possiblity. Alpha SF generally.

I agree with implied and FDG.

Alpha SF, and in my opinion ISFp as I think she's irrational. I have difficulty seeing an ESFj doing that 2-day marriage thing, unless it was a publicity stunt, or she was drunk, or something like it.

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I agree with implied and FDG.

Alpha SF, and in my opinion ISFp as I think she's irrational. I have difficulty seeing an ESFj doing that 2-day marriage thing, unless it was a publicity stunt, or she was drunk, or something like it.

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It was so clear (even though I don't know her, at all) that she was looking for attention, affection, and a good time. People's loneliness are always alarmingly obvious to me, for some reason. I mean, I am always aware of someone who is deeply sad (something I can't describe.. someone could lose a loved one and be completely destroyed, but not give off the vibe I am talking about here). Maybe its the sadness that I can "reach out to," or maybe am supposed to reach out to. Its always unnerving.

Oh, and as for that marriage thing, I think it was a publicity stunt, primarily.. but I think she made a big joke out of it all to non-threateningly say what she really wanted.. I dunno, just a hunch.

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Britney pretty much lacks any sort of :Ni: .

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That would actually be consistent with her being Alpha, since they are :Ne: > :Ni: , and with :Ni: being the role function, especially if she's sensory subtype.

They lack brain cells and thus cannt be typed =/

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IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

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You are klutz in typing, PAris is YOUR DUAL, ISFJ

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Britney is ESFp. No idea about K-Fed, except for the fact that he's a ******. If you see anyone standing next to k-fed, and they're not punching him in the face, rest assured it's not me. :P


Britney pretty much lacks any sort of :Ni: .

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Kraus is bang on in this.

Isn't it amazing how smart she is? (Kraus I mean)

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IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

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You are klutz in typing, PAris is YOUR DUAL, ISFJ

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lol yeah its really funny how you have typed someone and someone says something totally different and its like, ".....what?"

i said in another thread i think Britney is ESFp. def perceiver, and i think k fed is ISFj by VI. he looks J from VI. Their relationship seems not duality.

I think Paris is ISFx, probably ISFj. her ex Paris Latsis looks super ENTj. :P That Stavros Niarchos looks super ESFp. lolololol i swear i dont read tabloids (though i do read magazines) and i have a good memory :)

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IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

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You are klutz in typing, PAris is YOUR DUAL, ISFJ

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lol yeah its really funny how you have typed someone and someone says something totally different and its like, ".....what?"

i said in another thread i think Britney is ESFp. def perceiver, and i think k fed is ISFj by VI. he looks J from VI. Their relationship seems not duality.

I think Paris is ISFx, probably ISFj. her ex Paris Latsis looks super ENTj. :P That Stavros Niarchos looks super ESFp. lolololol i swear i dont read tabloids, i have a good memory :)

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If KFed is an ISFj, then I am dead, and speaking to you from the grave. He's some type of extravert that doesn't dress well.

Bollocks on Paris Hilton ISFj. If anything, ISFp. ESFp most likely.

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Bollocks on Paris Hilton ISFj. If anything, ISFp. ESFp most likely.

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How much do you want to bet?

And if you change your mind don't ever put me down about typing EVER again!

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Bollocks on Paris Hilton ISFj. If anything, ISFp. ESFp most likely.

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How much do you want to bet?

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FDG you have to accept that she is ISFJ, ask the other ENTJs, don't be a knob :wink:

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FDG you have to accept that she is ISFJ, ask the other ENTJs, don't be a knob :wink:

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I won't discount the possibility, but I won't accept it either unconditionally. I'd better not ask the other ENTJs, because I already know the answer.

And what is the answer if I may ask?

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And what is the answer if I may ask?

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That she's a perceiver to say the least, and most likely a :Se: base-function-person.

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IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

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You are klutz in typing, PAris is YOUR DUAL, ISFJ

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No, I agree with Fabio. You have a sick view of ISFJs.

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IMHO Britney is J. ESFj. Compare to Paris Hilton ESFp.

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You are klutz in typing, PAris is YOUR DUAL, ISFJ

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No, I agree with Fabio. You have a sick view of ISFJs.

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Where d oyou get that from? I actually like the healthy ones very much, and if you can do VI and see my VI test, you will know why.

I mean for on thing ISFJs aren't as extreme as Paris Hilton. She's a whore. There, I said it. ISFJs have more self-control than she does. She is also a flaming Extravert, you can tell by how little reflective thinking she has. By this I mean, she is a spoiled little brat who doesn't realize that she is a spoiled brat. ISFJs are much more conservative (I would imagine, even if they had all the money in the world, they wouldn't prositute themselves all over place in an extreme form of irrationality).

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I mean for on thing ISFJs aren't as extreme as Paris Hilton. She's a whore. There, I said it. ISFJs have more self-control than she does. She is also a flaming Extravert, you can tell by how little reflective thinking she has. By this I mean, she is a spoiled little brat who doesn't realize that she is a spoiled brat. ISFJs are much more conservative (I would imagine, even if they had all the money in the world, they wouldn't prositute themselves all over place in an extreme form of irrationality).

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HAve you seen the Courtney Love thread?

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And what is the answer if I may ask?

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That she's a perceiver to say the least, and most likely a :Se: base-function-person.

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To state the obvious, I agree with FDG and Rocky.

I doubt she's ISFj. Indeed far more :Se: than :Si: , so Beta or Gamma. ESFp most likely.

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ISFJs are much more conservative (I would imagine, even if they had all the money in the world, they wouldn't prositute themselves all over place in an extreme form of irrationality).

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Agreed.

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I mean for on thing ISFJs aren't as extreme as Paris Hilton. She's a whore. There, I said it. ISFJs have more self-control than she does. She is also a flaming Extravert, you can tell by how little reflective thinking she has. By this I mean, she is a spoiled little brat who doesn't realize that she is a spoiled brat. ISFJs are much more conservative (I would imagine, even if they had all the money in the world, they wouldn't prositute themselves all over place in an extreme form of irrationality).

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You should see NoTORIous, Rocky. Someone said she was ISFj on one of these boards. As for whores... I think a lot of Hollywood is made of whores (male AND female), but Paris is different. She is an ATTENTION whore. lol. I also think Britney is. I can always imagine them throwing a tantrum if theyre not in the spot light for a week throwing pillows, calling every single friend possible and playing, "Poooor meee!" on the little violin that just want stop.

Paris Hilton cannot be I. That's impossible. She's brainless, walking around with poor little animals and teeny clothes. Introverts THINK before jumping into bed with someone. I can't imagine her sitting in a room by herself thinking things through, can you?

Britney might be I though. I don't think she's stupid. Think she's blind by love. Awww. I feel so bad for her.

Britney Spears: ENTP

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Britney Spears: ENTP

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Logical ? how ?

We've talked about her before, and I'm going with ESFj.

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Britney Spears: ENTP

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Now, that is an interesting typing.

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Britney Spears: ENTP

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Logical ? how ?

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While I think that she is ENTP, I don't think she is very smart, however here are some quotes from her dealing with thinking. By the way, F types deal with feelings and needs, whereas T people talk about thinking.



Don't treat me like a little girl.
Britney Spears

Every night, I have to read a book, so that my mind will stop thinking about things that I stress about.
Britney Spears

I don't really have time to sit down and write. But when I think of a melody, I call up my answering machine and sing it, so I won't forget it.
Britney Spears

This is very T as opposed to F:

I don't understand the whole dating thing. I know right off the bat if I'm interested in someone, and I don't want them to waste their money on me and take me out to eat if I know I'm not interested in that person.
Britney Spears

I don't want people kissing my butt. If I had a bad show and I know it, don't tell me I had a good show. I hate that. I guess because I'm 17, people think I don't see stuff like that.
Britney Spears

I know not everyone will like me, but this is who I am so if you don't like it, tough!
Britney Spears

I like meeting all my fans and signing autographs, although it can all get a bit crazy. Yesterday, for example, a boy just came over and planted a big kiss on my face! I was like, 'Hello?'
Britney Spears

I still have a lot to learn - about the business, about music, and about myself. Its exciting.
Britney Spears

With love, you should go ahead and take the risk of getting hurt... because love is an amazing feeling.
Britney Spears


Notice how she rationalizes things. She doesn't say I feel this or that.

She writes her own music?

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She writes her own music?

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Sometimes, I guess. :P

This quote shows some need for help in dealing with emotions:

Love Quote: Quotes from Britney Spears
I went to a psychoanalyst. He explained things about my love life that I found very impressive... almost scary. He said I had a problem with closeness and intimacy... that I was afraid of letting myself fall for someone and of being hurt.

I don't like to sit around and judge others as I don't like to be judged myself.
Britney Spears (1981 - )

She says T-ish things in a totally Fe way!

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I don't understand the whole dating thing. I know right off the bat if I'm interested in someone, and I don't want them to waste their money on me and take me out to eat if I know I'm not interested in that person.
Britney Spears

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She reads body language and she knows what she feels.

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I don't want people kissing my butt. If I had a bad show and I know it, don't tell me I had a good show. I hate that. I guess because I'm 17, people think I don't see stuff like that.
Britney Spears

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not type related. Everyone has their little annoyances.

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I know not everyone will like me, but this is who I am so if you don't like it, tough!
Britney Spears

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wait-a-minute... Didn't Joy say that (like almost word-to-word) at some point? Well, whatever. It doesn't refer to T.

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I like meeting all my fans and signing autographs, although it can all get a bit crazy. Yesterday, for example, a boy just came over and planted a big kiss on my face! I was like, 'Hello?'
Britney Spears

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Where is the T?

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I still have a lot to learn - about the business, about music, and about myself. Its exciting.
Britney Spears

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And I love hardcore science! It's very exciting! Does it make me ENTj? And anyway, this rather refers to the fact that she has keen interest in such T-subjects, but doesn't know about them.

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With love, you should go ahead and take the risk of getting hurt... because love is an amazing feeling.
Britney Spears

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Oh how T! :8*


And maybe she rationalizes things because she has Ti dual seeking.
I'm always a bit distressed when someone offers inconcistent non-logical things as clear evidence of something. I think it's because of my Ti dual seeking. I rarely agree with your typings and occasionally I see why.

Kristiina you remind me very much of my ENTJ ex. :P

Niffy stop trolling darling :P

you deserve no further response.

Oh, you are a moral authority now? :P

I'm interested to know what type Britney Spears is. I have always liked her and thought she was misunderstood, but I feel that she is very impulsive and makes very bad decision. She's probably an Irrational.

She is of course an ESFp.

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She reminds me of an ESFp I know who considers herself a good girl, and a conservative republican,
while at the same time gives in to various forms of lust and hedonism left and right.

They kind of look the same.

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while at the same time gives in to various forms of lust and hedonism left and right.

They kind of look the same.

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For some reason all the ESFps look the same to me. Or perhaps I just type people who look like that ESFps, lol. ESFps seem to be a strange mix of conservative values and liberal "rebelism" (especially sexual kind). By looking at an ESFp and listen to them talking you would often be surprised how conservative they are in a more general sense.

Indeed.

For me, ESFp's legs have a distinct shape. Go figure.

ESFp, ESFj, ESTp
Some ISFps.

ESFjs who are full of themselves will wear things that greatly show their shape, though perhaps more conservative than the Eps.
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Probably any girl that is feeling very comfortable in said environment is capable of wearing less and not being concerned about it. But I suppose it's better to hear what the ladies have to say than listen to me.

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Sooo... what type feels the most comfortable in their own skin? You know... comfortable and free enough to feel completely fine while walking around in those kinds of reveling outfits out in public?

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SEEs without question

SEEs are the most comfortable with showing off their thongs in public....... (IME)

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Sooo... what type feels the most comfortable in their own skin? You know... comfortable and free enough to feel completely fine while walking around in those kinds of reveling outfits out in public?

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SEEs without question

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Unfortunately, I think she's naturally rather insecure in her own body. I saw some interview long time ago and she seemed like just another insecure schoolgirl, wearing very casual things. But people of any type would get that confidence if everyone everywhere told them (or about them in Internet) that they are really sexy. then give the best reviews for outfits that make her look the most sexy - I think Britney looks amazingly hot in the white negligee in the forest. If she reads it, she'll think, "I do? In that case, I gotta wear that kind of things more often"

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Sooo... what type feels the most comfortable in their own skin? You know... comfortable and free enough to feel completely fine while walking around in those kinds of reveling outfits out in public?

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I would say SEE too but not because they are comfortable. It shows a disregard of Si or any kind of "elegance". It is more like some form of vulgar rebellious behavior like "You think you can control me but you can't! I do what I want!" which is typical for SEE's when they are emotionally unstable. The more control people are trying to apply to them the more they rebel. And yes I think SEE's are less comfortable with their bodies and less certain of their aesthetic taste in general than e.g. Si-Ego types even though perhaps more comfortable than some other types.

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Sooo... what type feels the most comfortable in their own skin? You know... comfortable and free enough to feel completely fine while walking around in those kinds of reveling outfits out in public?

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I would say SEE too but not because they are comfortable. It shows a disregard of Si or any kind of "elegance". It is more like some form of vulgar rebellious behavior like "You think you can control me but you can't! I do what I want!" which is typical for SEE's when they are emotionally unstable. The more control people are trying to apply to them the more they rebel.

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Uhm, that's exactly the way I behave.

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I would say SEE too but not because they are comfortable. It shows a disregard of Si or any kind of "elegance". It is more like some form of vulgar rebellious behavior like "You think you can control me but you can't! I do what I want!" which is typical for SEE's when they are emotionally unstable. The more control people are trying to apply to them the more they rebel.

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Uhm, that's exactly the way I behave.

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It might be just the :Se: (or not) :) The ESTps I know are somehow more calculating about their "rebellion" though. They rarely fail to consider the consequences of it and thus rarely do anything which would harm their interest without them understanding that they are taking a big risk. ESFps just rebel and don't consider risk or the consequences too much until the reality hits back or someone they trust points it out to them.

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Sooo... what type feels the most comfortable in their own skin? You know... comfortable and free enough to feel completely fine while walking around in those kinds of reveling outfits out in public?

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SEEs without question

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I would say SEE too but not because they are comfortable. It shows a disregard of Si or any kind of "elegance". It is more like some form of vulgar rebellious behavior like "You think you can control me but you can't! I do what I want!" which is typical for SEE's when they are emotionally unstable. The more control people are trying to apply to them the more they rebel.

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Uhm, that's exactly the way I behave.

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hah. this is exactly why you get a spot on my "10 people i'd like to meet from the forum" list in the anything goes subforum.

not to pick on UDP, but imagine someone who would probably break all of his personal rules/dislikes and find them silly. UDP is like a good example of the anti-ESFp (maybe SP in general?) :lol:

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hah. this is exactly why you get a spot on my "10 people i'd like to meet from the forum" list in the anything goes subforum.

not to pick on UDP, but imagine someone who would probably break all of his personal rules/dislikes and find them silly. UDP is like a good example of the anti-ESFp (maybe SP in general?) :lol:

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Could it be that we are opposite in psychological disposition?

I don't mind Sps, so long as they aren't attracted to me. Those are the worst kind - the kind that are pushing for some sort of a relationship with me, or more so, the kind that just want to have sex with me. I can see them changing and trying to be more attractive to me, when it's just fake. Thankfully, most of them think of me as a cold, distant, or arrogant person.


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Although SEEs do not intentionally do it, how it plays out in reality is irrational and illogical. Sensory stimulation over rational decisions. They don't intentionally 'do wrong' in their eyes, or break commitments, etc.... but that is actually what they are doing. (or rather, when they make commitments, it is to Se or Si, and not to a rational Te or Ti decision, particularly Ti). And that is what I dislike most. They don't intentionally decieve or lie, it's just (on a stereotypical level) my (default) interpretation of reality has no meaning to them.

In one sense we both "disrespect" each other by playing less attention than the other to each's most important aspect of life - their leading function.

The only reason you see me as "a good example of the anti ESFp" is because I've been more vocal about it than others
--- do you expect me to rejoice in the inferiority of those circumstances?

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hah. this is exactly why you get a spot on my "10 people i'd like to meet from the forum" list in the anything goes subforum.

not to pick on UDP, but imagine someone who would probably break all of his personal rules/dislikes and find them silly. UDP is like a good example of the anti-ESFp (maybe SP in general?) :lol:

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Could it be that we are opposite in psychological disposition?

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indeed!

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Although SEEs do not intentionally do it, how it plays out in reality is irrational and illogical. Sensory stimulation over rational decisions. They don't intentionally 'do wrong' in their eyes, or break commitments, etc.... but that is actually what they are doing. (or rather, when they make commitments, it is to Se or Si, and not to a rational Te or Ti decision, particularly Ti). And that is what I dislike most. They don't intentionally decieve or lie, it's just (on a stereotypical level) my (default) interpretation of reality has no meaning to them.

In one sense we both "disrespect" each other by playing less attention than the other to each's most important aspect of life - their leading function.

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on the other hand, they could easily see you as a harsh/cold person and intentionally "jabbing" at them with your remarks.

funny how conflictors work out this way. i think i could say sort of the same about some alpha SFs and their own bluntness/self-defeating behavior. over time i've realized that it's not intentional and i just don't offer effective advice/cannot penetrate no matter how i try to phrase things/adapt.

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The only reason you see me as "a good example of the anti ESFp" is because I've been more vocal about it than others
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i actually agree. you have been much more vocal about it than the majority of INTjs on this board, which is precisely why you are a good example. and no, i certainly don't expect you to rejoice. :lol:

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hah. this is exactly why you get a spot on my "10 people i'd like to meet from the forum" list in the anything goes subforum.

not to pick on UDP, but imagine someone who would probably break all of his personal rules/dislikes and find them silly. UDP is like a good example of the anti-ESFp (maybe SP in general?) :lol:

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Could it be that we are opposite in psychological disposition?

I don't mind Sps, so long as they aren't attracted to me. Those are the worst kind - the kind that are pushing for some sort of a relationship with me, or more so, the kind that just want to have sex with me. I can see them changing and trying to be more attractive to me, when it's just fake. Thankfully, most of them think of me as a cold, distant, or arrogant person.

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So you don't like to have sex?

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Although SEEs do not intentionally do it, how it plays out in reality is irrational and illogical. Sensory stimulation over rational decisions. They don't intentionally 'do wrong' in their eyes, or break commitments, etc.... but that is actually what they are doing. (or rather, when they make commitments, it is to Se or Si, and not to a rational Te or Ti decision, particularly Ti). And that is what I dislike most. They don't intentionally decieve or lie, it's just (on a stereotypical level) my (default) interpretation of reality has no meaning to them.

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There's also the Fi component that you are forgetting.

However, it is undeniable that very Pe EPs will never get along with very Ji IJs.

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on the other hand, they could easily see you as a harsh/cold person and intentionally "jabbing" at them with your remarks.

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I usually don't say anything. Only when it is necessary. I choose to make discussion on this forum - that's why I say it now.

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i actually agree. you have been much more vocal about it than the majority of INTjs on this board, which is precisely why you are a good example. and no, i certainly don't expect you to rejoice. :lol:

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If you mean to say that the only types that I can have sex with are Pe EPs, then no, I do not like having sex.
I've never been tempted to have sex with a hooker, whore, or slut for that matter.
Not that I'm saying Pe EPs are slutty. (.......)


^ I only said that because it is what was expected.

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There's also the Fi component that you are forgetting.

However, it is undeniable that very Pe EPs will never get along with very Ji IJs.

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Actually, no, I did not forget the Fi component - if you opened the link, you would have realized that the thread itself was about Fi severity of INTjs, as well as the main excerpt being form the :Fi: part of the Strati profile.

Also, if you open the link and view the video therein, it will explain my italicized words, for those who do not know off the top of their head.

I do agree about that undeniable difficulty of interaction

hahaha. if I really try hard to see it, you can even be fun.

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Love Quote: Quotes from Britney Spears
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The fact that she took his statement at face value suggests weak intuition.

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while at the same time gives in to various forms of lust and hedonism left and right.

They kind of look the same.

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For some reason all the ESFps look the same to me. Or perhaps I just type people who look like that ESFps, lol. ESFps seem to be a strange mix of conservative values and liberal "rebelism" (especially sexual kind). By looking at an ESFp and listen to them talking you would often be surprised how conservative they are in a more general sense.

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Well said.

i would think something and then XoX would say it, in every post here.

But in general i find the conservative aspect to mesh well with the "rebel" because i see the rebelliousness as a desire to rise in power. They want to be powerful in the real world. That sounds Se and Te.

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Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington

i would think something and then XoX would say it, in every post here.

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We must share some common experiences from those creatures. I actually met an ESFp this week (who I haven't seen for a long time) and it enforced my perceptions of them. I think I can now quite reliably tell ESFp from ESFj.

I saw a documentary on Britney last night and was amazed at how she expressed her sadness at some stage, in which I recognized myself, and I don't see that often in other people. I actually only knew her from stories and photographs, but this painted a totally different picture. I think I like her.

What was she sad about?

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What was she sad about?

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Judge for yourself:

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel...cord_s1_a1.xml

it's starting at 40:20, but I want to point out particularly at the parts starting at 42:23 and 42:38.

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Originally Posted by Starfall

Britney is ESFp.

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If there were still doubts about her type, this video surely takes it away.

http://www.pinkisthenewblog.com/2011...to-popjustice/

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazin...ears-interview


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-sxSd1uwoU&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPI_XOIKI9c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b3rGc89EiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZYSiWHW8V0&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6b33PTbGxk&ob=av2n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elueA2rofoo&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FF6MpcsRw&ob=av2e

ESFp.

Gamma SF for sure
SEE>ESI

SEI-Fe

Same type as Celine Dion.

SEE Blonde:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyCXwa1e2s

she. is not. gamma sf

does the start of the second vid seriously look like Si to anyone >.<

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Originally Posted by labocat

does the start of the second vid seriously look like Si to anyone >.<

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so Yeah i'm sure britneY plans her own videos and writes her own songs and picks out her own clothes too. lYrics are written for her, and i'm pretty sure just about everything else is planned. its poor reasoning to saY a video designed bY a bunch of different people to make $$$ is not Si lol. its not even socionics relevant

It looks cheezy.

ISFP

:)

More of these XXXj/p threads. Shows just how superficially similar types are.

The archetype is ESFp, but I don't know enough about her, personally, to make a definite opinion.

Not gamma ESFp

Just ESFp.

I think she's SEE. Why, simple stuff like this.

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Originally Posted by britney interview

LB: What songs get you moving?
BS: I love "S&M" and "Only Girl" by Rihanna; that's why I jumped on the "S&M" remix. She's really cool. I like her a lot.

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Fe question, Fi response. She never really even address the what gets you moving part.

Take someone like Vanessa Hudgens who is probably a actual SEI.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa Hudgen's twitter

I finally did what I’ve wanted to all my life. Jumped out of a plane 13,000 feet up in the sky. Most thrilling, freeing amazing experience I’ve ever had. AND got to do it with my best friends. The most beautiful group of people I know inside and out.

Life’s not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moment that takes our breath away. Never let fear rule you, take the jump and give yourself the opportunity of a new perspective. Love.

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Experience, experience and more experience... Groups of friends, of people that she knows, moments that take our breath away... fear.. Emotion!

This is just two small samples of the differences in their verbalization, and how they interpret things and communicate.

ughhhhh i hate this topic. she's so alpha sf

idk Allie, none of the Ti men really want to claim her. lol

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idk Allie, none of the Ti men really want to claim her. lol

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hey that's not fair, no one does lol

I agree with Allie, Ashton, and others, I think she's SEI.

Hkkmr, that response in the interview, I would say is actually a bit more Fe than Fi. Besides, certain one-line responses are generally not reliable indicators of someone's overall personality. Not sure what type Vanessa Hudgens is to compare.

Maybe the confusion is over how the Fe is made clear? Guys, SEIs aren't as bubbly or outgoing as ESEs. They're more charmers, entertainers, polite with ther creative Fe, just like IEIs. Don't confuse creative Fe with Gamma Fi.

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idk Allie, none of the Ti men really want to claim her. lol

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Then I'll take her! MIRROR ftw!! XD

HEY GUYZ, LET'S WALK INTO PUBLIC BATHROOMS BAREFOOT!! :biggrin: YES, GREAT IDEA!!!

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Then I'll take her! MIRROR ftw!! XD

HEY GUYZ, LET'S WALK INTO PUBLIC BATHROOMS BAREFOOT!! :biggrin: YES, GREAT IDEA!!!

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i know this is going to make me seem gross, but it's actually attractive to me that she'd do that. :) I think Brittany would be cool to hang out with.

SEE, and I can mark a post as deconstructive if someone is an arrogant, annoying, know-it-all type? Yeah, I'm looking at you, MD.

I love her newer cds. They are like.... sooo narcissistically perfect. (Mine & dolphin's favorite phrase)

Her older stuff like 'hit me baby one more time' I'm not too crazy about. Idk what it is, the songs seem too simple and justin bieber-ish in that time period. It's like they're just begging for something MORE done to them.

I think she's a sweet girl, who gets too much pressure from hollyweird to constantly change. I can't worship her as much as fefe dobson though, since fefe is just more 'me' and my style.

Leave Britney ALONE, people!!!! Everyone, just leave her ALONE!!

(Not aimed at you B&D, didn't see you'd replied until I opened the thread to reply again.)

she is LSE. confirmed.

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Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

I agree with Allie, Ashton, and others, I think she's SEI.

Hkkmr, that response in the interview, I would say is actually a bit more Fe than Fi. Besides, certain one-line responses are generally not reliable indicators of someone's overall personality. Not sure what type Vanessa Hudgens is to compare.

Maybe the confusion is over how the Fe is made clear? Guys, SEIs aren't as bubbly or outgoing as ESEs. They're more charmers, entertainers, polite with ther creative Fe, just like IEIs. Don't confuse creative Fe with Gamma Fi.

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No, Hk is right. That is a good example of an Fi response.

PLZ humble yourself, you just thought you were LSI :lol:

also, poli you still can't type.

She's an obvious SEE

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Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

I agree with Allie, Ashton, and others, I think she's SEI.

Hkkmr, that response in the interview, I would say is actually a bit more Fe than Fi. Besides, certain one-line responses are generally not reliable indicators of someone's overall personality. Not sure what type Vanessa Hudgens is to compare.

Maybe the confusion is over how the Fe is made clear? Guys, SEIs aren't as bubbly or outgoing as ESEs. They're more charmers, entertainers, polite with ther creative Fe, just like IEIs. Don't confuse creative Fe with Gamma Fi.

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As I said before, just two small samples of what I think is representative of their personalities. If you want to research and post contra-evidence about this I'm willing to look at it, but I think this is more representative of her pattern of discussion. She talks mostly of her personal preferences vs either experiences she has or emotional content.

And no, that's not Fe. Fe is the activitation of potential energy(basically what gets your butt moving), and she basically ignored it and instead focused on her personal preferences while promoting a collaboration.

I've gone thru Brittney's interviews before and the Fe and Si content Vanessa Hudgen's encapsulates in one twitter text is more then the content I've been able to gather from all those interviews.

well i don't want her as gamma sf, so i'd like to propose a compromise and we can all settle on LSE. sound fair question mark

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Originally Posted by polikujm

SEE Blonde:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CyCXwa1e2s

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Is there consensus on this? I know a few people who seem a lot like her.

As for me, I dont disagree.

Britney Spears has always struck me as an SEI.

xSFp

She seems so obviously SEI to me that I don't even know how to argue it.

But this kinda clear divide is illuminating as to what one thinks about the two types involved here. I think Paul McCartney is another person like this where people are pretty much split between a Gamma and Alpha SF type. Collecting more clear divides like this could be useful for shedding light on the differences in our views on socionics.

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She seems so obviously SEI to me that I don't even know how to argue it.

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"lol"

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SEE, and I can mark a post as deconstructive if someone is an arrogant, annoying, know-it-all type? Yeah, I'm looking at you, MD.

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Are you annoyed by me because I was arrogant, or because I offered an opinion that was different than yours? ;)

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i know this is going to make me seem gross, but it's actually attractive to me that she'd do that. :) I think Brittany would be cool to hang out with.

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Haha definitely. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves

I love her newer cds. They are like.... sooo narcissistically perfect. (Mine & dolphin's favorite phrase)

Her older stuff like 'hit me baby one more time' I'm not too crazy about. Idk what it is, the songs seem too simple and justin bieber-ish in that time period. It's like they're just begging for something MORE done to them.

I think she's a sweet girl, who gets too much pressure from hollyweird to constantly change. I can't worship her as much as fefe dobson though, since fefe is just more 'me' and my style.

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Yeah, I like the older stuff alright, it was incredibly popular at the time. Just a different era in music.

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Originally Posted by Mother Slacker

Leave Britney ALONE, people!!!! Everyone, just leave her ALONE!!

(Not aimed at you B&D, didn't see you'd replied until I opened the thread to reply again.)

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Still don't know what your problem is. We're discussing Britney Spears in a Britney Spears thread. Hard to "leave her alone", when she is the topic.

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Originally Posted by thePirate

PLZ humble yourself, you just thought you were LSI :lol:

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"Just" was forever ago. I feel I understand so much more now, ever since truly accepting my ESE-ness.

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As I said before, just two small samples of what I think is representative of their personalities. If you want to research and post contra-evidence about this I'm willing to look at it, but I think this is more representative of her pattern of discussion. She talks mostly of her personal preferences vs either experiences she has or emotional content.

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Ok ok, I've never been a fan of 'well the rest of my argument is assumed', when I feel people should bring evidence to the discussion, for what specifically they want to prove. Perhaps in this case, now the burden falls on me to provide proof of Si.

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And no, that's not Fe. Fe is the activitation of potential energy(basically what gets your butt moving), and she basically ignored it and instead focused on her personal preferences while promoting a collaboration.

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See, I view her response and "she basically ignored it and instead focused on her personal preferences..." as Si, not Fi. Preferring her leading function Si over going with Fe. In fact, I see this as the key point in this discussion. I think we both can agree Britney Spears has a more laid-back nature and air about her, and I think that is why everyone is disagreeing, some seeing Fi, others seeing Si.

For me, I still vote SEI. :lol: No need to half-agree on LSE, when neither of us thinks that's right. XD It's better to stick with your true opinion, and respect the opinions of others who disagree. So those who vote LSE, don't vote LSE just because you want to avoid conflict, haha. :P

I vote LSE because I use my Ne and my boyfriends Te to confirm it. You would not understand this because you value Ti. Hearing your attacks on me is not good for my health, my boyfriends Si also confirms this. You are on my ignore list.