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You really should focus on a person's use of information elements as well as the motivation behind a person's actions over something as wide as the temperaments, even if they they can be shown to be relevant to Socionics. You certainly shouldn't cherry-pick things as you have done, or pursue others as though they are constantly at the gates. Nevermind bringing up the unreliable subject of VI!
I don't see how me reluctantly wearing something once that I slightly dislike to appease someone goes against my self-typing, even if this was a common behaviour...which it isn't. It is rare that such events happen and you are completely blowing my well-worded relation of events out of proportion. I don't like to be confronted about why I have chosen not to wear something or worry about such matters as getting a refund or hurting the feelings of those who would be deeply wounded and liable to feel very down about the perceive strength of a very strong relationship. I don't see why you have to push me on the subject with such little thought and utter lack of an ability to comprehend the possibility that people have a multitude of reasons for doing something that are not always readily understand or at all logical.
INFjs are reactive people. That's why they strangle people when they get upset. Statistically INFjs are 69% more likely to drown their children in bathtubs. It is, in fact, so common that they should not be culpable.
See how similar Maritsa is to Andrea Yates?
http://murderpedia.org/female.Y/imag...a-yates-14.jpg
The archetype of an EII is"humanist" because people of this sociotype have a tendency to make broad sweeping moral sentimants towards humanity in their society and through evolution ioof man rather than individuala although they do notice and examine mpral qualities of individuals this does npt dictate to pleasing a peraon qho you want to be or show appreciation for their politeneas though it is a very nice and notable jesture. The point here is emphasis. Yours tends to be more about not moral evaluation but eather on individual and not moral but action.
I think it's clear that you have had limited observation of me not just in real life but also on this forum. Either that or you are being facetious or you have a very high bar for whatever you are looking for.
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Marista is just using socionics to justify her toddleresque temper tantrums. ~~nuttin new.
I have to evaluate people :)
Positive subject ethics*(+). My attitude to people. Necessity to express my attitude, opinion, feelings of love. Pleasant/unpleasant. My evaluation of a thing, an object, a person.
Please include me in future forum-wide typings, people, I'm so confused
EDIT: Ignore, not confused anymore, pretty sure I'm a Gamma NT.
I think Maritsa's mode of existence is to make her self-identity based on these random, overly specific and yet somehow still vague "facts" from all sorts of places, without any consideration for how they all work together to actually make a coherent personality, and then type everyone else based on how much her contrived self-identity correlates to random, overly specific and yet somehow still vague "examples".
And there are people on this forum who seriously think she's a Ni ego?
I would like to note these other characteristics of IJ temperament, as per wikisocion:
- calm, balanced and inert
- "unflappable"
- usually very stable mood
The description also says that IJs are "more reactive than active", but I'm not quite sure it means what you think it means, given the context.
It's difficult to see how @Maritsa herself fits in with any of those four descriptions based on her performance on this forum.
Maritsa seems to have a habit of making appeals to authority essentially by quoting one selective interpretation of Socionics, and she also regularly takes very limited aspects of a person's behaviour and uses it to suit her own ends. This doesn't seem like the behaviour of a :Te: valuing person or of someone who is capable of appreciating the original, highly theoretical gist of a work and attempting to make it useful.
@woofwoofl: nooo why am i not trityped? I feeli one dimensional now :(
@Subteigh, you shouldn't get upset about Maritsa's opinion so much ;)
I do not know what you mean about EII's being reactive; I know personally that I only become reactive when I am hurt/offended. Otherwise I am pretty calm. Like I said before, I only disturb the peace in the room if someone said something that I feel is very wrong. Otherwise I let things go. It's not worth it to get riled up about non-important things, such as arguing about tastes.
I also do not think that you can decide on people's types due to a few sentences they write. The other person knows themselves better; and for the matter I do see subteigh as an EII. He has a lot of interesting opinions and I can see his Fi.
I think back to my old friends, and I realize that although I may not have realized then how alike we were, there's a chance that they were my type. This is because everyone reacts differently, due to their nurture, and who they are friends with.
Last but not least, everyone is unique and everyone has a different way of processing things, I don't care what type you are. I get along really well with some LSE's, while others have never reached the same level of closeness to me.
That is disgusting
That observation is straight out of Stratievskaya's EII profile. It's the behavior of aristocrat-strategist, determined to set her agenda by aligning everyone's opinion to her own and distorting facts if needed be as per weak logical functions:
To quote: "The EII often relies on previously formed opinions and arguments. He is also ready to manipulate facts in order to preserve the system of relations, or image of therefore, that is necessary for him. Otherwise, how could he harmonize relations? The facts in themselves are unimportant if all value and sense is precisely in the essence of ethical relations. Thus, it is possible to distort the facts - likely nobody will check and verify, thus there will be no trouble." (link)
:lol: her opinions don't upset me at all...it's the way she actively pursues everyone presumably as some attempt of getting communal- and self-recognition that she is uniquely EII. It is very pushy and intellectually dishonest and not what you would expect from someone who would like you to believe that they are not only the great understander of Mankind in all its flavours but that she is well-versed in the more formal aspects of the field of Psychology. Her many previous comments however has shown her to be a frequent misunderstander and an apparently unintentional aggravator (I think it would be too generous to say that she is a knowing expert in how to disturb the peace of a wide selection of individuals), and an individual who seems oblivious to the impartiality and importance of the scientific method in general, nevermind being ignorant of the practices commonly used in Psychology.
She recently referred to EIIs as having a "tendency to make broad sweeping moral sentimants towards humanity in their society"...she herself has the habit of making broad sweeping sentiments about an individual based on piecemeal "information" (if something piecemeal can be considered information), and then having a hard-line imposition of the entirety of a person's character and actively pushing this straitjacket onto the person, often in an adversarial way and sometimes in an apparent attempt to provoke, even on people who have been otherwise agreeable...indeed, on occasion, she has managed to do this on Forum Ents who have had a long history of keeping out of all forum conflict and who have clearly been very adverse and badly affected by such conflict. She has sought out such people and attempted to burn them down!
In reference to her quote, I would suggest that her behaviour is the exact opposite, with the only similarity being the emphasis on other individuals.
I would say that Maritsa's behaviour is actually more representative of publicly quoting from the systematic interpretation of a supposedly reputable source (i.e. with Maritsa, "DarkAngelFireWolf69"), and publicly causing discord with other individuals by such an appeal to "authority".
@silke thanks for those quotes and yes I agree I do a lot of that but mostly because what I feel sometimes is hard to express so if someone else said it better than that's the way I'll usually go. @Becca thanks. Both things are correct; differences in personality as observed say when you're in a bus with 30 people can b observed in subtle ways this is because people are confined to an environment. Through interaction and closer relations do the differences come to light. I see this happen on the forum. I watch who says "hi" to who and who is eager for someone elses attention and who would rather not have a thing with someone else
Understanding the difference between positivism and negativism helped me to determine my own type, because for the longest time it was between IEE and ILE (although deep down I knew I was a feeler). But nowadays I don't really need Reinin to type, because I know quite well what the types look like -- I can spot a Beta ST from a mile away (unfortunately those seem to be the predominant STs where I'm at). The difference between logic and ethics is usually obvious, as is the difference between sensing and intuition.
By the way, I don't think you're EII. You're ILI. Here's a video of your dual:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFaSNMyqKHw
Hmm, not sure if that is less likely than Maritsa's typing of me as a SEE. why not IEI?
Because you seem logical.
Also, there's no way you're SEE. Not sure what she's thinking with that one.
See my post in the following thread if you want a sense of what EII looks like:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...p/46556-Fi-dom
^^^^ IEI - 1 Fe so/sx 4w3
Ok so no explanation. I guess you took your typing back as in the Cara thread, where you were 100% sure about her being IEI-Fe at first, and then ...not so much anymore. But being an insufferable smart-ass all along nevertheless ofc.
You seem awfully mean and obssessed with me without me doing a single bad thing to you (and even liking you). Am i sensing some jealousy issues?
And lol at you befriending me and then unfriending me again without me doing anything to you. Are you still in high school or just off pills?
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There are B.A. programs that you can enroll in if you´re so bored and you feel stupid. You don´t have to roam the internet and project your sense of inferiority on strangers on forums.