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But do note that he's forceful in preventing that violence, which strikes me as thus more Se blocked with Fi. He's very harsh and direct about his anti-violence opinions. Additionally, he clearly supervises Gene, bossing his own boss around.
I see this, and this kind of thing is part of my considerations. I'm not ready to jump to Se valuing though because of this, it's a matter of seeing multiple facets to the character.
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Precisely... the Master is more Ni, the Doctor more Ne. Both are highly N and usually Fe-valuing (though not always, the Tenth Doctor is more IEE). However, the Doctor tends to consider multiple options at once, whereas the Master focuses on one and one alone.
I suppose this could be a good argument. I would also say that the Master is more "Ti" though. In his own way he seems a little more practical, ordered and perhaps even competent than the doctor, with greater ability to concentrate and focus (although with the same apparent intolerance for boredom). One issue with him as Ne valuing as well is his need to conquer the universe, which was something dragged back in from the "old show" where the master i think was a rather different kind of character, even between regenerations. I think that Russell T. Davies deliberately revamped the master's character as more like the doctor injecting more Ne-ish ness into him than was there before perhaps.
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I disagree. He's a sadistic sociopath, but those feelings were genuine. He was genuinely just about shitting his pants when he saw the Doctor resurrected. His constant rambling about how much he finds humanity disgusting? That was all genuine seething hatred, same with his rambling about finding the Doctor disgusting. They're not faked like Fe-HA would be.
oh well yes, his expression of shock when the doctor was restored was genuine as he didn't believe that all these things like faith and hope could do this (being a sinister villain he naturally overlooks the powers of "good" and so on). I'm referring more to his fake expressions and charades... such as his fake way of acting around lucy prior to his take over, his fake over-the-top glee at the arrival of martha's family and fake expressions of mock sympathy (he's always performing to some extent, with the exception of those times when he's honestly floored... and yes, i agree when he's expressing "seething hatred" it's real)... i think he likes it when everyone around him is visibly miserable so he can relish in their bad feelings and really know that they're suffering (and it's boring to him if they don't show visible displays of feeling, of outrage, or pain, or the like). Anyway oddly i see the Doctor as often performing as well (i see them both as being more about the "presentation").
I mean as a contrast, I think I saw the master as more real in moments like his phone conversation with the doctor about how he ran from the time war because he was so scared. He does have these rare moments of sincerity when he's turned the "big presentation" off. And with his glee, he is very maniacal and loses control of himself in his joy at taking over things, killing people, wreaking havoc and spreading chaos, etc. I think that this is a sort of flight from his madness... that it makes him feel better and that he loves those times when he's high on his own mania.
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His own statements contradict you on the Jack part. He explicitly states the BEST part is that he can kill Jack again and again. He doesn't just want Jack permanently dead, he wants to revel in the delight of killing him again and again.
I guess I interpretted that as more part of his "presentation" as in I see his delight in killing Jack again and again and looking forward to this as "fake". I think he loves killing people yes, but I'm willing to bet he just locked Jack up in the boiler room and forgot about him for the year, with the exception of bringing him back on deck for monumental events such as the burning of Japan.
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He also reveled in the delight of torturing the Doctor and abusing Lucy, yes. This strikes me as an example of unhealthy Se-HA.
But Se-HA types aren't the only ones who can torture, surely.
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It wasn't significantly bigger, but yes, he can use it to kill people - ergo, it is more practically beneficial than the laser screwdriver. He's more concerned about practical application and plans (Se-Ni) than the Doctor's impractical flights of fancy (Ne - the most blatant example being the "timey wimey detector" that "goes ding when there's stuff).
yes but the doctor deliberately made his screw driver so it can't actually kill people (it's an intentional choice). He's even said this in at least one episode. I see no praticality difference. The Doctor's screwdriver performs the practical functions he wants it to (so does the master's). And probably the TARDIS created both of their screwdrivers and they probably come with some rather standard design specs and what not. So I just see this as not being a point at all in this (it's irrelevant). The only thing I thought was significant about the Master's screwdriver is he had to make a big deal about his to impress upon the doctor how it's so much more awesome (because it's all a part of the childish antics against the doctor). As far as evil villains go the master is terribly cutesy about it and puts on facades of cheeriness.