Define Se and how it looks like in Egoblock

For me, Se is power, lust, getting what I want, shiny things, domination, victory, attack attack attack!

When I want something, I simply go take it. I get up and move, I go, I get, it's mine. Mine. Fuck you, it's all mine.

When someone is better than me at something, I hate it. I practice, get better, return to the fight and I win. Efficiency doesn't matter; what matters is getting at any price. Gimme. I will win by relentless assault, moving forward, taking hits yet moving straight ahead. Adelante! You better kill me, because if you don't, I will kill you. Too bad.

When I lust after a woman, I lure her to me. I give her a look that tells her I want her. When she comes to me, I smile, slightly arrogant, yet kind. A strong personality that tempers its will so that the girl doesn't flee. My will is unleashed when the girl is naked, ready to mate. I consume her, I smell her, I taste her, I stare her down. I force her to feel good. She is mine, but I don't tell her that. It's my little secret.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

LSI don't like to have redunent talks about things that don't matter because it's not apart of Ti primary to go on and on about things that are not bare minimum of essencial like Te types can with their storehouse of info. Come on, look at reality, they eliminate unnecessary info and analyze are analysts. :p

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YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT, HONEY, BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST DO NOT HAVE SUCH AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT :Ti: REALLY IS.

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LSE can be short spoken but not when they have a lot of info to talk or shoot out at you.

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I do this a lot, Ti-leading types don´t like this, and don´t understand this either. For them this is just 'too much talking' like Mercutio said once abt me, he got it that I was not LSI.

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Plus, hasn't she seen how you evaluate how good something works, especially when you praised the socionics.com website moderator for being polite and british in their manners and how "productive" and better functioning that was compared to this site?

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Yes I did that. And things there are more organized and there are rules of politeness, moderators are more active, whereas this forum is just too much 'american-style do-what-you-want' which americans mistake for 'freedom'.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

For me, Se is power, lust, getting what I want, shiny things, domination, victory, attack attack attack!

When I want something, I simply go take it. I get up and move, I go, I get, it's mine. Mine. Fuck you, it's all mine.

When someone is better than me at something, I hate it. I practice, get better, return to the fight and I win. Efficiency doesn't matter; what matters is getting at any price. Gimme. I will win by relentless assault, moving forward, taking hits yet moving straight ahead. Adelante! You better kill me, because if you don't, I will kill you. Too bad.

When I lust after a woman, I lure her to me. I give her a look that tells her I want her. When she comes to me, I smile, slightly arrogant, yet kind. A strong personality that tempers its will so that the girl doesn't flee. My will is unleashed when the girl is naked, ready to mate. I consume her, I smell her, I taste her, I stare her down. I force her to feel good. She is mine, but I don't tell her that. It's my little secret.

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ROFLMAO.....I´M GLAD NOT BEING LSI AFTER READING THIS

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Originally Posted by discojoe

For me, Se is power, lust, getting what I want, shiny things, domination, victory, attack attack attack!

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This is not Se. When has Kamelion wanted to attack and kill something or Dophin or Merky (although he might), or Absurd (I don't think he could hurt a fly).

You're full of poop.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

When I want something, I simply go take it. I get up and move, I go, I get, it's mine. Mine. Fuck you, it's all mine.

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right. not without Trust right?

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Originally Posted by discojoe

When someone is better than me at something, I hate it. I practice, get better, return to the fight and I win. Efficiency doesn't matter; what matters is getting at any price. Gimme. I will win by relentless assault, moving forward, taking hits yet moving straight ahead. Adelante! You better kill me, because if you don't, I will kill you. Too bad.

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Age + Maturity = Someday you'll get it.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

When I lust after a woman, I lure her to me. I give her a look that tells her I want her. When she comes to me, I smile, slightly arrogant, yet kind. A strong personality that tempers its will so that the girl doesn't flee. My will is unleashed when the girl is naked, ready to mate. I consume her, I smell her, I taste her, I stare her down. I force her to feel good. She is mine, but I don't tell her that. It's my little secret.

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So do LSE, they can be very flirtatious and charming. What's your point?

Your use of Te is apparent about redundant information.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU HONEY, I THINK DJ´S POST IS INFORMATIVE ABOUT BOTH :Se: (AT LEAST IN HIS CAVEMAN USE OF IT) AND ALSO ON HIS PERSONALITY (PROBABLE BIPOLAR TYPE I, RECURRENT EPISODES OF MANIA, EUPHORIA, FEELINGS OF BEING A GOD, ETC.)

AS TO THE :Se: PART, IT´S VALUABLE. THE PART ABT HIS PERSONALITY IS FUN, THOUGH HE SHOULD BENEFIT FROM SEEING A PSYCHIATRIST.

BTW DJ, HAVE YOU ALREADY MATERIALIZED YOUR HOMOSEXUAL FANTASIES? JUST CURIOSITY, BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU JUST GET IT. I IMAGINE YOU 'GOT IT'... RIGHT?

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Originally Posted by discojoe

For me, Se is power, lust, getting what I want, shiny things, domination, victory, attack attack attack!

When I want something, I simply go take it. I get up and move, I go, I get, it's mine. Mine. Fuck you, it's all mine.

When someone is better than me at something, I hate it. I practice, get better, return to the fight and I win. Efficiency doesn't matter; what matters is getting at any price. Gimme. I will win by relentless assault, moving forward, taking hits yet moving straight ahead. Adelante! You better kill me, because if you don't, I will kill you. Too bad.

When I lust after a woman, I lure her to me. I give her a look that tells her I want her. When she comes to me, I smile, slightly arrogant, yet kind. A strong personality that tempers its will so that the girl doesn't flee. My will is unleashed when the girl is naked, ready to mate. I consume her, I smell her, I taste her, I stare her down. I force her to feel good. She is mine, but I don't tell her that. It's my little secret.

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What if I squeeze myself into any shape
And I still don't fit?
What if I bend myself so much that I break
And I can't mend it?
What if I burn so bright that the fire goes out
And I can't stay lit?
What's the point in it?
I could get good at crying crocodile tears
Just to get along
I could carry on telling you wanna hear
'til my voice is gone
But if I finally get to the place that I think is home
And I don't belong
What's the point in it?
Where's the benefit?
When I'm gaining all but I'm losing it

It's not worth having
If it's too much to hold
You can dig so deep
That you're left with a hole
Thirsty in a desert with a bag full of gold
Don't wanna end up like pirate bones
What I thought was precious was just a pile o' stones
I might have the treasure but I'd be lying alone
Just a pile of pirate bones
If I forfeit my soul it ain't worth having
If it's something I stole it ain't worth having

What if I stake everything I am on a dream
And it's counterfeit?
If I reach the end that justifies the means
Could I live with it?
And if it's true that having too much of any good thing
Could only make me sick
What's the point in it
Where's the benefit
When I'm gaining all but I'm losing it
Oh, oh

It's not worth that much to me
If losing out is what it means
To swim in shallow victory
Is empty, empty
It's just not worth the price
It's only a fools paradise
If it's draining every drop of life 'til I'm dry like pirate bones

who wrote this, Dolphin? I liked it.

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Originally Posted by Airborne

I DISAGREE WITH YOU HONEY, I THINK DJ´S POST IS INFORMATIVE ABOUT BOTH :Se: (AT LEAST IN HIS CAVEMAN USE OF IT) AND ALSO ON HIS PERSONALITY (PROBABLE BIPOLAR TYPE I, RECURRENT EPISODES OF MANIA, EUPHORIA, FEELINGS OF BEING A GOD, ETC.)

AS TO THE :Se: PART, IT´S VALUABLE. THE PART ABT HIS PERSONALITY IS FUN, THOUGH HE SHOULD BENEFIT FROM SEEING A PSYCHIATRIST.

BTW DJ, HAVE YOU ALREADY MATERIALIZED YOUR HOMOSEXUAL FANTASIES? JUST CURIOSITY, BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU JUST GET IT. I IMAGINE YOU 'GOT IT'... RIGHT?

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I don't have bipolar, but I do have sort of hypomanic states, nothing like true bipolarity, certainly not type I.

And no, I haven't materialized my gay fantasies because I don't want to get AIDS. I'd probably fuck a really effeminate guy who basically looked like a girl, provided he shaved most of his hair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24daw1ZdrfA

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Originally Posted by discojoe

I don't have bipolar, but I do have sort of hypomanic states, nothing like true bipolarity, certainly not type I.

And no, I haven't materialized my gay fantasies because I don't want to get AIDS. I'd probably fuck a really effeminate guy who basically looked like a girl, provided he shaved most of his hair.

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Airborn and Dj; LSI don't say such things about arabs muslims, gay ppl, they have Fi role, they are much more PC. :wink:

You two are carbon copies of each other and same temperament.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

This is not Se. When has Kamelion wanted to attack and kill something or Dophin or Merky (although he might), or Absurd (I don't think he could hurt a fly).

You're full of poop.




right. not without Trust right?



Age + Maturity = Someday you'll get it.




So do LSE, they can be very flirtatious and charming. What's your point?

Your use of Te is apparent about redundant information.

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Look, according to the way you perceive Socionics, I may very well be LSE. However, as I've already said, your concept of Socionics differs so greatly from the mainstream that it essentially is a wholly different typology. The gist of what I am saying is that there is not any point arguing with me over my type, since our foundational knowledge of the subject differs to too great an extent.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

I don't have bipolar, but I do have sort of hypomanic states, nothing like true bipolarity, certainly not type I.

And no, I haven't materialized my gay fantasies because I don't want to get AIDS. I'd probably fuck a really effeminate guy who basically looked like a girl, provided he shaved most of his hair.

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Nice. You´re a true heterosexual to the core there, LOL. The only thing that keeps you from being homosexual is fear of AIDS?

AH COME ON, FIND A NICE EFFEMINATE GUY AND ASK HIM TO TEST FOR HIV WITH YOU, YOU CAN GO TOGETHER AND TEST AND THEN FUCK AFTER THAT.

THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE... I DON´T ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE I CAN´T HAVE AN ERECTION WITH ANOTHER MAN, ONLY WITH WOMEN.

HYPOMANIA IS ALSO NOT VERY GOOD, I HAVE IT TOO, OCCASIONALLY. BUT I DON´T GET PSYCHOPATHIC. I GET MORE OF LIKE... I´M TOTALLY GREAT, A GOD WALKING ON EARTH, AND FEELING GOOD, PERHAPS MY ROLE :Fe: IS ACTIVATED AT THESE TIMES.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

Look, according to the way you perceive Socionics, I may very well be LSE. However, as I've already said, your concept of Socionics differs so greatly from the mainstream that it essentially is a wholly different typology. The gist of what I am saying is that there is not any point arguing with me over my type, since our foundational knowledge of the subject differs to too great an extent.

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Maybe Airborn can explain how he came to the conclusion about himself being LSE and what concepts or mainstream data he considered. I think he can do a better job of that then I can.

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Originally Posted by Airborne

Nice. You´re a true heterosexual to the core there, LOL. The only thing that keeps you from being homosexual is fear of AIDS?

AH COME ON, FIND A NICE EFFEMINATE GUY AND ASK HIM TO TEST FOR HIV WITH YOU, YOU CAN GO TOGETHER AND TEST AND THEN FUCK AFTER THAT.

THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE... I DON´T ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE I CAN´T HAVE AN ERECTION WITH ANOTHER MAN, ONLY WITH WOMEN.

HYPOMANIA IS ALSO NOT VERY GOOD, I HAVE IT TOO, OCCASIONALLY. BUT I DON´T GET PSYCHOPATHIC. I GET MORE OF LIKE... I´M TOTALLY GREAT, A GOD WALKING ON EARTH, AND FEELING GOOD, PERHAPS MY ROLE :Fe: IS ACTIVATED AT THESE TIMES.

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Yes, it is so is his...Fe.

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Originally Posted by Airborne

Nice. You´re a true heterosexual to the core there, LOL. The only thing that keeps you from being homosexual is fear of AIDS?

AH COME ON, FIND A NICE EFFEMINATE GUY AND ASK HIM TO TEST FOR HIV WITH YOU, YOU CAN GO TOGETHER AND TEST AND THEN FUCK AFTER THAT.

THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE... I DON´T ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE I CAN´T HAVE AN ERECTION WITH ANOTHER MAN, ONLY WITH WOMEN.

HYPOMANIA IS ALSO NOT VERY GOOD, I HAVE IT TOO, OCCASIONALLY. BUT I DON´T GET PSYCHOPATHIC. I GET MORE OF LIKE... I´M TOTALLY GREAT, A GOD WALKING ON EARTH, AND FEELING GOOD, PERHAPS MY ROLE :Fe: IS ACTIVATED AT THESE TIMES.

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Too much similarity between us for us to be different types. In several ways you are exactly like me, sans the silly fallacious economic beliefs.

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Originally Posted by dolphin

YouTube - Pirate Bones - Natasha Bedingfield

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:love:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybS7hc1H_w&p=85BBC2F68B8A347C&playnext=1& index=77

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Originally Posted by discojoe

Too much similarity between us for us to be different types. In several ways you are exactly like me, sans the silly fallacious economic beliefs.

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Yes, you may be LSE.

I'm taking out my target I posted on the wall so I can bang my head on it again.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Maybe Airborn can explain how he came to the conclusion about himself being LSE and what concepts or mainstream data he considered. I think he can do a better job of that then I can.

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First I went to understand what :Ti: and :Se: were, in ruling out the possibility of being an LSI.

When I 'got' what Ti and what Se were, I noticed that I don´t have :Ti: definitely on my egoblock. I contrasted my thinking process with Ti-leads such as an LII girl, my LSI uncle, and some other Ti-leading people.

Ti is just too cold. I don´t see this coldness in you, to be honest, DJ.

I think you mistake your Role :Fe: activation for :Se: .

But you can see this, just see if you have :Si: or :Se: on egoblock, I think :Si: is very apparent in how you´re concerned about your looks and how you look to other people, and also making some sort of impact on people... this is LSE behavior in my view... LSI wouldn´t create endless threads for arguing against Sarinana... unless very mentally sick which yes you could/can be but I doubt it.

An LSI would be just like...'okay, you´re wrong, I´m right. bye, Sarinana.'

LSI are perhaps the most difficult type to be inflamed in an argument. They´re just icebergs.

The Se subtype descriptions say that they're irregular, impulsive, and quick-tempered.

Thanks for that awesome Te, Airborn :D

Stop nitpicking at ridiculous words Dj.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

Stop nitpicking at ridiculous words Dj.

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That doesn't even make sense.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

The Se subtype descriptions say that they're irregular, impulsive, and quick-tempered.

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The text you wrote... about 'just getting it, fuck you, I´ll kill you if you don´t kill me' etc...

what is there? PASSION

LSI are not that passionate. You´re too passional. LSE more probable, :Fe: activation big time there.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

That doesn't even make sense.

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LSE can be irregular impulsive and quick-tempered. Irregular between what they desire and their actions, going with their Si feelings. Rage and quick-tempered is synonymous with LSE on....

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Originally Posted by Airborne

The text you wrote... about 'just getting it, fuck you, I´ll kill you if you don´t kill me' etc...

what is there? PASSION

LSI are not that passionate. You´re too passional. LSE more probable, :Fe: activation big time there.

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You're making silly generalizations about humans, boxing them into certain sets of concrete behavior and then assigning them a classification that fits them into a system. This is naive and leaves out the dynamicism of human nature.

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Originally Posted by Maritsa33

LSE can be irregular impulsive and quick-tempered. Irregular between what they desire and their actions, going with their Si feelings.

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The point was that LSI can't be ruled out on the grounds that I get angry and act impulsively.

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Originally Posted by discojoe

You're making silly generalizations about humans, boxing them into certain sets of concrete behavior and then assigning them a classification that fits them into a system. This is naive and leaves out the dynamicism of human nature.

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You´re implying I´m using :Ti: when I make these generalizations about humans boxing them into sets of behavior [...] ?

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The point was that LSI can't be ruled out on the grounds that I get angry and act impulsively.

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No it cannot. This is why I don´t have a definite opinion abt your type, I don´t have enough socionics knowledge to tell, but you seem too similar to me - except in the homosexual part - so I presume you´re LSE more than LSI, because seriously, when I learned what :Ti: is and how it is manifested in people, I ruled it off from my egoblock entirely.

And remember you may be mistaking :Te: for :Se: ... both are Extroverted IEs and as such they´re strong, they´re + , positive, masculine, extraverted, fire, like all extraverted IEs, whereas Introverted IEs are weaker in the sense that they´re - , negative, feminine, introverted and cooler like water.

Just take for example :Se: and :Si: and you´ll understand how one is fire, + , masculine, the other is water, - , feminine .

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Originally Posted by discojoe

When I lust after a woman, I lure her to me. I give her a look that tells her I want her. When she comes to me, I smile, slightly arrogant, yet kind. A strong personality that tempers its will so that the girl doesn't flee. My will is unleashed when the girl is naked, ready to mate.

I haven't materialized my gay fantasies because I don't want to get AIDS. I'd probably fuck a really effeminate guy who basically looked like a girl, provided he shaved most of his hair.

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THAT´S A TRUE MAN!

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You mean like enron and worldcom?
Controllled masuculinity is an oxymoron.
Acting as if I'm a man. hmmmm

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Originally Posted by discojoe

You're making silly generalizations about humans, boxing them into certain sets of concrete behavior and then assigning them a classification that fits them into a system. This is naive and leaves out the dynamicism of human nature.

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I thought you said you use Te consciously?

That bolded part is very much Te perception of what a person is doing as an activity, then you're evaluating his activity.


You do .... X>Y>Z methodical thinking.

Ashton, look at this post by Dj and how he is using Te without talking about economics.

'Extraverted Sensing (which is the leading function of “The Playful ESTp” and “The Lovable ESFp”, and the creative function of the ISTj and ISFj types) is also called Volitional or Space-capturing Sensing (and is an extraverted, irrational, and static information element which is valued by the Beta and Gamma quadras). It observes external appearances, and takes note of the amount of influence or power that is necessary or possible. Extraverted Sensing aspires to attain personal power and presence, and may like to lead others who carry out their demands. Extraverted Sensing sees life as an obstacle course that is full of challenges, detours, and adversity; and that in order to reach one’s spiritual or life goals one must persevere and demonstrate willpower. They like to have an immediate impact on their external reality, and are often perceived as being more competitive and intense than types from the Alpha and Delta quadras which value Introverted Sensing (as opposed to the Beta and Gamma quadras which value Extraverted Sensing). Extraverted Sensing is adept at comprehending different forms of qualia (“sense-datum or feeling having a distinctive quality”), and may feel driven or compelled to express their impression(s) of these singular qualities through writing, music, art, speech, acting, dancing, etc. No other function is able to communicate the sensation of a physical, emotional, or psychological/spiritual state as vividly, directly, precisely, eloquently, or with the impact of Extraverted Sensing. Among the eight trigrams of the I Ching, or the Ba gua, Extraverted Sensing is the equivalent of Li, which is related to fire, radiance, rapid movement, and the sun. Its color is orange, and is in many ways a perfectionist that is not fond of half-measures. They put their body and soul into all their endeavours. Although they may appear to wear a rigid mask, they also have a surplus of talent, radiance, passion, and expressiveness. Extraverted Sensing can also be called “Fire Sensing”, “Power Sensing”, “Radiant Sensing”, or “Force Sensing”.'