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Well, if I'm unsure, I can kinda narrow it down a little by looking for extraverted vs. introverted behavior. However, strictly from an information element standpoint....Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfall
:Ni:: someone using this element talks mainly about how things were or will be
:Ne:: someone using this element talks mainly about what things could be or what they might be (how they might develop as opposed to how they WILL develop).
I think you need to clarify this. If you mean that the person will consider an event and comment on what could happen as a result of this event occurring, that is still :Ni:, though in it's formative (un-blocked with :Se:) stages. When you write that :Ni: is how things "will" happen, that is actually :Se: acting on the :Ni: suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoodrat
:Ne: will generate all the possible paths for how to achieve a goal or all the possible consequences of the goal.
So, in your description: what "might be" could be either :Ne: or :Ni:, and :Ni: is not limited to what "will be."
I think the difference between Ne and Ni can be thought of like this:
Ne person: you can use your degree in English to become a writer, counsellor, psychologist, reporter...
Ni person: okay. if i become a writer, though, i will have to go to graduate school. in order to do that, i will need to take this post-bacc class.
Ne person: yes, you would have to go to graduate school, though you don't have to take a post-bacc class. you can do an internship with a professor instead.
i like your examples and agree with them.... it's so hard for me to to talk about elements i'm weak in! :( makes my head hurtQuote:
Originally Posted by Ritella
=) thanks
i understand. I have similar problems with Te and Ti.
p.s. i think you can use your descriptions if you just tweak them.
:Ni: what will probably happen if (a particular event occurs or course is chosen)
:Ne: what could happen instead (of what is currently happening or what will happen if the current events play into the future)
Bernie Ecclestone, head of Formula One.
http://www.danbymp.com/photos/ecclestone.jpg
which is why you need to stop typing people before you actually know socionics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritella
Ian Curtis is INTp
yes although I don't know many INTP girls, this one probably is.
Especially because of her slow 'word finding' speach.
INFp =\
she doesn't remind me of myself.
or possibly we're just different subtypes.
but i think she's INFp>INTp.
Apart from her good looks, I find her demeanor very attractive. I'd love to have more friends like her, regardless of type. INFp seems plausible, but she seems to show remarkable consideration - i.e. weighing whether or not to be dissuaded, and then using a principle to justify it her decision.
exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by force my hand
IEI time
I've never encountered an INFP who talks this way. They usually speak fluently.
Yeah, she's really interesting to me. Dunno what type she is, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by force my hand
She's Ni-INFp 4w5 sp/sx, jesus christ. How people could mistake her for an INTp is beyond me. LOOK, the Ti agenda is more salient than jenna jameson's throat while in the act lol.
I agree. As I may have indicated in that earlier thread, she talks exactly like an INFj friend of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
What the hell lol? She's not fluent? How are you even defining it? And regardless, that doesn't sound like very reliable typing criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
She's an INTP-ni subtype 'the philosopher'.
She has about 100 video's on youtube about all sorts of theories: freewill, god, objective morality, particle accelerator, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/user/existentialistcat
Case closed, I would think...
her eyes look just like mine . same color , shape and everything . she also does the chin grab like i do . i dont have a sound card and i can't hear her speak , but on VI i would say INTp . She also listens to the same music i do ... She has R.E.M. , modest mouse , and led zeppelin on her homepage . By her short description I read on her homepage I would identify it as similar to my style of writing also . I think she is INTp-Ni . she also thinks she is INTp , as if you'll notice it has "INTp" in her profile . also i would like to fuck her
Could the people who are in doubt tell me, what makes you think that she is not INTP?
I think she's definitely an mbti INTP. But I think she's a socionics Ni-INFp with a strong Ti focusQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
that is a retarded theory.
Similar to your self-typing, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazedrat
No, crazedrat is right -- it is a retarded theory. And not only that, it is also a false theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
The progenitor of objective truth speaks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
And you should listen and learn -- and stop spreading bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
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Originally Posted by strrrng
Yeah, that's my impression as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
No, it isn't. That's your imposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat
YEAH EXPATQuote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Oke let me rephrase to everybody who thinks she is an INFP.
What makes her an INFP?
BTW arguments like 'strong ti' seems just another way of saying she is a logical type.
Who said strong Ti? I said strong Ti focus; that doesn't imply strength, in the usual socionics sense. It seemed to be like an overriding motivation for her, and a lot of her videos have an NiTi focus, i.e. the philosophical discourses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
Have you seen her other videos?
She worships objectivity. Does that mean anything?
Also, heh why don't you ask her what her socionics type is? Actually, if you don't, I will.
She might get mistaken, due to the shitty definitions that are constantly dispersed from people. Like, if she thinks Fe is her last function (which it is in mbti) and hears that stereotypical Fe polr shit, she could conclude that she was INTp. But she's not, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot
Which is exactly why I would let her know that the definitions of fuctions between systems are different.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
Or I could just encourage her to come here and make a type thread.
Yes, it's more common for NT then NF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot
BTW if I think about how a female ILI-Ni would behave, then this girl fits the picture perfectly.
One's philosophical opinions are not indicative at all of functional preference. How a person thinks about philosophical concepts is what illustrates a functional preference, and she shows a preference for the more theoretically/abtract-oriented Ni-->Ti combination IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
They definitely are.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
Yeah, your insular, structuralist "objectivism" is a perfect indicator of your Ti preference. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Ti is, and has always been, strongly linked to subjectivism. Like so many other people here, you are an idiot on this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng