I think Brad Pitt is ENTj.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYWBQIWjHtI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1kzfvBsuAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRI4n_RNdgc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFst-OD0ks
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I know I saw a thread for him before (right?) but I can't find it.
Type him
"Socionists" type him as LIE. He surely VIs as one.
I could see LIE, he seems Gamma from a superficial view
The first video Ryu posted he doesn't seem that natural and his true personality isn't really showing. The second video he was naturally himself, and in rhythm, he looks more LIE in that video, very Gamma, yea. I used to think he is a SLI by plain V.I before I watch any of his video.
It doesn't make her anything, as her type isn't dependent on Mr Pitt's.
You're not, you know, implying there is some sort of a connection there, is there? Just seemed like odd phrasing.
When you speak this way, do people often find it convincing?
Why LIE rather than SEE?
brad pitt is def gamma, prolly LIE.
i saw him on good morning america once, he was being interviewed by al roker, who is some type of alpha SF. so al is trying to get him to open up and brad is SO MEAN TO AL ROKER. i can't remember what he said and i wasn't even sure i disagreed with what he said but it was really fucking mean on national tv. and to harmless al roker of all people. i stopped liking him then.
You didn't answer my question.
It seemed like you've been very evasive in this thread, saying it's obvious that somebody is whatever type, and comparing it to identifying a color. When people say things like that, I feel like someone is saying "just trust me and believe that I know what I'm talking about" - so it did not garner me believing your assertion. It just told me that you want me to believe you.
Also, whatever that was that I just quoted sounded like the opposite of being precise. So I'm a bit confused when you say you were actually "trying to convey something precisely".
Finally, I asked about other people finding what you said convincing because it seemed like you were attempting to be convincing, or, that what you said had been influential to other people before. ...I'm not sure how to interpret some of what you are doing, so, I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
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Why LIE rather than SEE?
ENTjs are usually "dryer", less animated than he is.
I've never come across a good argument for his being an NT type either.
I would have thought Beta extrovert is an obvious typing. That's just me though, doing my own thing.
SEE/ ESFp
a lot of women and gay guys say Brad Pitt isn't even hot, and he really isn't actually. He's just some hollywood stock boy clone or something. Sure he has an objectively hot body and stuff, but it's way too controlled, forced and narcissistic. It's more how you carry yourself, really- then just an image thing. And it's like he wouldn't even have that erotic of a touch, he almost seems 'asexual' and they're trying to sell him as some fantasy hunk that he just can't seem to pull off.
There's an obvious different energy between a man with real sexual chemistry, and a man that's just plain narcissistic.
Instead of sex appeal or appealing to my emotions, he'd probably feel pretty bland and mathematical to me.
ISTP
he reminds me of Robert Redford. Wasn't he guessed as ENTJ?
Rick types him as such. I don't think it's anywhere near the worst typing, but have been a little suspicious of it regardless. There are a lot of times he comes across as something more ESxp'ish. It's also strange that he is known for being good at things that are typically associated with the SF club. As an NT type this should be highly improbable. If he was ST or NF I could still easily see it, but for him to manifest the strengths opposite to those of his club is just strange.
The Se values and extroversion are crystal clear, though.
I would probably suggest ESTp as the alternative to be reviewed first.
I don't understand the extrovert typing myself. He seems fairly introverted, you can also tell by his acting that it's externally forced out and interaction doesn't come naturally. ISTp I would say, even VIs like one.
ENTj is right, it seems.
SEE
I completely agree with Jxtres...
EIE or LIE, IMO.
PS, Brad Pitt does NOT project animal magnetism; that is projected ONTO him by Hollywood magic and the roles he plays. He actually seems rather calm and self-contained for the most part, with a touch of erratic, gregarious charm.
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YES YES YES HE DOES. Especially in the movie Legends of the Fall and Fight club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhMCpVMIk4M
THIS is Animal Magnetism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lToyPAUyE
Compare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJ0kIsRdzQ&feature=related
Brando is casual, his presence is heavy, his movements are smooth; Pitt seems lighter, a bit more removed, somewhat stiff and jerky by comparison. Both have a particular kind of casual charisma that I see mostly in Se valuing extroverts, but Pitt's is more boyish, a bit sly, and clearly composed, whereas Brando's is more nonchalant and natural seeming.
Seconded.
Pitt has lots of personality, and IMO he's actually a rather good actor, but he is very deliberate in the changes he makes to his personality to fit a role; his natural personality shows throw in many rights, but he does adapt to roles in subtle ways that I think go largely unnoticed by people who are over-focused on his celebrity and tend to either adore him unconditionally or write him off as hollow.
He was awesome in Inglorious Basterds, especially in the part where he "speaks" italian. I don't know his type.
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Yes it is.
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He is virtually identical to my LIE dad in every way, except he is not married to Jolie and hasn't adopted half the kids in africa.
From what I observed in his interviews he seemed controlled, relaxed, when giving his opinion he doesn't care how he may come across, not afraid to be blunt, keeps work separated from family, and has a vision set(displayed when talking about housing). For everyone saying when he flashes smiles and all that good stuff, I have a hard time believing you've never seen anyone not smile or laugh when having a good time.
Let's look at what we know: He's definitely not alpha. Clearly Extraverted. Not F dominant. Comes off more NT than ST. LIE is all that's left, but I'm no expert.
LIE or EIE IMO, probably 3w4 or 7w8.
LIE imo
confident, controlled, and a bit quirky
He has a Ni-creative feel, but he doesn't come off as having the intense emotionality of EIEs. He's either very direct in conversation or quirky and smiley.
Not all EIEs are emotionally intense. Take Paul Walker, for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFsQHDsuQZI
One way of typing someone is checking his/her mates (don't try to type Julio Iglesias or Charlie Sheen via this method).
Accordong to Wikipedia, Brad Pitt has dated:
Robin Givens, SEI?
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...Hg44P3dYFk&t=1
Jill Schoelen, IEE?
http://www.abandomoviez.net/db/perso...l_Schoelen.jpg
Juliette Lewis, IEI
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iDp08JDjAj...ietteLewis.jpg
Gwyneth Paltrow, SEI?
http://images.wikia.com/doblaje/es/i...ethPaltrow.jpg
Jennifer Aniston, LSI?
http://www.dentrocine.com/wp-content...-aniston-2.jpg
And finally, Angelina Jolie, ESI :Se:, his dual!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tHaumj7GrM...400a072307.jpg
It seems that through "trial and error", Brad Pitt (Ni-ENTj) has found his soulmate.
Pretty sure all those typings are wrong.
I thought he was ILE honestly.
since when is Jolie ESI? must have missed that...but yeah, I've no idea about her anymore, I just assumed she was SEI since IMO, she comes off ill fitted for her "tough" chick roles.
To type by relations wich were broken - is not a good idea. People often listen passion to begin such relations, and while they feel passion - they forgive absence of deep friendship, but later.. Better to type by long and unbroken (10 and more years) relations when people were young, - this have rather more of intertype component.
SEE e7 imo.
Pitt some e7 Te type (... one that I personally find dull and silly) and Jolie EII 4.
Yeah, I wasn't full on serious here. ;) It was just a metaphor. I was more mocking the existence of quadra stereotypes than a particular quadra.
And the use of phrasing was probably partially driven by the fact that I know some Gamma accountants (two LIEs and one ILI). ;) But I also know a LIE fireman so you know... ;) Stereotypes are just that - stereotypes.
Brad Pitt is SLI. He is the kind of man IEEs want. Athletic and unemotional
He is Beta, LSI.
Those who see LIE but them some wonder about Se are being fooled by the Illusionary relation. (Can happen to anyone.)
Brad Pitt - ENFJ - Hamlet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0_sL5AAVQ
Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69 types him as LSI, but I have been a little sceptical about it. I've typed him as ESI on my website but I have been going back and forth in my mind whether if that's correct. I'm pretty sure that he's a sensing type and belongs to beta or gamma. I also think that he's an introvert. one thing that's interesting is that DarkAngelFireWolf69 thinks that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were a dual couple, since he types Jolie as EIE (I don't have any doubts about this typing). It could be that Pitt is a creative and Jolie a normalising subtype.
I believe he's anomalous, in that he has a strange enneagram-sociotype combination that makes him hard to type. Pretty sure he's alpha (most likely) or beta though. If he's alpha, he is ILE-Ne, if he is beta he is IEI-Ni, in the chance he is delta, he'd have to be SLI, and in the unlikely chance he is gamma, he'd have to be a LIE-Ni.
ILE-Ne is probably it.
I don't see him as Ne valuing whatsoever given the projects and directors he usually goes for.
They're honestly very similar and derivative. Pitt is hardly what I'd call an eclectic actor and producer. I think LSI could fit. He does a great job at portraying the type and its mirror, SLE Ti.
Hard to believe an ILE would go for movies like Troy, The Big Short, Fight Club, Malick, Andrew Dominik and Tarantino movies.
To be fair, he almost never engages in Se-ish behaviors in movies. The most Se role I remember him in was Achilles , where he engages in -Se somewhat convincingly. This would mean he is beta, but I think his role there was EIE-Fe. He probably is then EIE-Fe - ILI -Te - ILE-Ne - LSE-Si (?) and the reason he is so hard to type is because he is a 4w3.
You forgot Interview with the vampire (revenge against the vampires) . I know, but what I mean is that he doesn't seem to like doing Se that much or at least it is not done very convincingly (or that often). He's not Jason Statham or Vin Diesel. With that Se usage he could very well be a Ne-Si type with Role Se or something (I've seen him typed ILE and IEE-- hence why I say he is difficult to type; I've seen him typed like 7 different types in all different quadras).
I've seen this guy typed: ILE-Ne, IEE, Beta Extrovert, LIE, SLI , SEE (apart from this thread)
Jason Statham - ENFJ - Hamlet
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Identical Inter-type Relationship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0_sL5AAVQ
(Jason Statham is ESE, so bad basis for comparison)
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Yup.. I think Hamlet.. Maybe even IEI
But, I identify with that so much...how Ashton said that....when i'm engaging in the social context, I'm listening in a way and projecting certain things, and to interrupt and switch gears and do a subject justice--to really write a cogent and true to experience and strategically-expressed-with-the-listener's-communication-needs-in-mind piece would take 30 minutes....
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SEI-Si
Second pic has a slightly SLI vibe because of the style of dress and guarded expression, but the eyes on the first pic are patently SEI-Si. The quirky/coy emotionality in the first pic also says SEI. I attribute the guarded look in the second pic partly to "just a look for a photo" (or RL issues) and partly to negativism.
SEI males often do the slightly longer hair thing and the earring thing. Compare Matthew Lillard in his role as Shaggy for a similar look. Lillard emotes more strongly than Pitt ever does, but I feel like Pitt's emotional range is strong enough and refined enough for Fe creative.
LSI...
I have a feeling that's he's Gamma SF, maybe introvert subtype for SEE or extrovert subtype for ESI.
Beta is possible though (LSI or EIE). But his eyes seem very F (or H subtype softness?), and his Se aura can be as strong as he want it to be, so Gamma SF fit better.
I'm going for ESI- Se
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFWOzENwX3M
P/S: The Agamemnon dude look like SEE lmao...
IEI-C
LSI, likely creative subtype which makes him seem SLE