Descriptions of extraverts and sociability
I think we can all agree that extraversion does NOT equal sociability.
But then why to most descriptions of extraverts state something about high sociability and having a wide circle of friends?
I think this is what scares many people away from concluding themselves to extraversion. People say, "well the ENFp description makes sense, but I like to be alone alot more than around people, so I am obviously not extraverted." Yet everything related to extraversion that is NOT related to sociability makes sense.
Are all ESFps hypersocial beings only focused on fashion and dominance? Why does this not make sense in terms of the non-social, intellectual, clingy INTp as their dual? And the same thing going for ESFjs and INTjs?
Does high sociability necessarily imply extraversion? Does very low sociability necessarily imply introversion? And what about everyone in between?
EDIT: And is extraversion really related to talkativeness?
Re: Descriptions of extraverts and sociability
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Originally Posted by Cone
I think we can all agree that extraversion does NOT equal sociability.
But then why to most descriptions of extraverts state something about high sociability and having a wide circle of friends?
I think this is what scares many people away from concluding themselves to extraversion. People say, "well the ENFp description makes sense, but I like to be alone alot more than around people, so I am obviously not extraverted." Yet everything related to extraversion that is NOT relatedto sociability makes sense.
Are all ESFps hypersocial beings only focused on fashion and dominance? Why does this not make sense in terms of the non-social, intellectual, clingy INTp as their dual? And the same thing going for ESFjs and INTjs?
Does high sociability necessarily imply extraversion? Does very low sociability necessarily imply introversion? And what about everyone in between?
EDIT: And is extraversion really related to talkativeness?
I agree exactly with what you said, that is why I had to change my inter-type relationship test intro/extro question into an objective/ subjective question, which includes other attributes that are not in them selves introverted or extroverted except through association and manifestation.
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A. You perceive him or her to be predominatelly objective, disconnecting personal thought, wants, will, from reality and personal influences and only the observable is considered in the formation of his or her opinions. Very little attention is given to his or her own personal state with the acception of the supplementation of the externally observable and what could be tested through concrete or abstract experience.
B. You perceive him or her to be predominatelly subjective, where personal wants, needs, thoughts take precedance over all and little consideration is give to the external besides to direct to his or her own personal state. He or she may also have a tendency towards personal loyalties and tends to not deviate much from inner principles and morals, as opposed to consideration of the objective and observable.
I pretty much interpreted this that in the most purest form Objectivity would correspond to the ESTj type and Subjectivity would correspond to the INFp type, and that every other type has atleast one attributes from each of the two types that makes them predominatelly Objective or predominatelly Subjective.
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People say, "well the ENFp description makes sense, but I like to be alone alot more than around people, so I am obviously not extraverted." Yet everything related to extraversion that is NOT related to sociability makes sense.
Basically that means that saying that Extroverts are the only social ones means jack, and that Subjective Extroverts [Like ENFps in the statement above] may have qualities that could be stereotypically applied to introverts with certain definitions of extroversion and introversion.
Am I making sense with this?
Re: Descriptions of extraverts and sociability
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Originally Posted by Cone
I think we can all agree that extraversion does NOT equal sociability.
But then why to most descriptions of extraverts state something about high sociability and having a wide circle of friends?
I think this is what scares many people away from concluding themselves to extraversion. People say, "well the ENFp description makes sense, but I like to be alone alot more than around people, so I am obviously not extraverted." Yet everything related to extraversion that is NOT related to sociability makes sense.
Are all ESFps hypersocial beings only focused on fashion and dominance? Why does this not make sense in terms of the non-social, intellectual, clingy INTp as their dual? And the same thing going for ESFjs and INTjs?
Does high sociability necessarily imply extraversion? Does very low sociability necessarily imply introversion? And what about everyone in between?
EDIT: And is extraversion really related to talkativeness?
According to this definition of "sociable" (no entry for sociability):
1 a: inclined by nature to companionship with others of the same species
2 a : inclined to seek or enjoy companionship
I would definitely say yes.
Extraverts are also talkative. This is why they need other people :lol: Also, as an extravert, I rarely accurately know what I think about something before I say it - which explains for me the need to talk (or to write) to others.
But it may not be the MOST important component. Research on the nature of extraversion/introversion has recently been saying that the "core" characteristics of extraversion are cheerfulness, positive emotions, optimism and enthusiasm.