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bobbybeam
when i first make the mistake, especially when it is a "really big one," (i tend to blow all of my mistakes out of proportion) i can't get my mind off of it. this goes from forgetting my water bottle to having a one night stance that i can't forget even when i try.
i will feel really bad about it and especially if it is something as big as a one night stance, it kind of haunts my life for a long while. i won't drink, i won't get loose, i won't flirt, i won't even think about sex....i totally shut myself out from all of it.
if it is something as simple as a water bottle, it could totally put a damper on my day...it keeps eating away at the back of my head and i can't thoroughly enjoy my day because of this.
This combined with this:
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bobbybeam
i focus on the new. i feel bad about my mistakes at first, but overall i am hopeful and look forward towards future events....i have a short attention span.....i get distracted very easily and after a few days i have so many more things that i have to deal w/ that i can't remained focused on the past.
Makes me think 7 because
Quote 1 = 7 going to 1 in stress. Focusing on the details, becoming obsessive over self-improvement and "cleaning up"/avoiding past mistakes.
Quote 2 = Quickly becoming busy, finding external means of avoiding painful memories and experiences. Very stereotypical 7 response.
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when i am depressed, i cry, i do not feel like eating, i sleep a lot, i do not want to go outside, or be around anyone...i feel ugly and gross...i guess i just sleep a lot and then sooner some outside force forces me to go outside and moving around helps me slowly get over everything....talking it out helps a little bit too
I'm going to say that this isn't really type related for the most part. You've just listed off most of the clinical signs of depression, lol.
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i get a lot more done when i am alone, i am more intune w/ myself, and am a lot more creative. no people interaction makes me very sad and it does take me a little while to get use to not really having a consistent person to have around, but my mood shifts and i end up embracing it....i am a bit moodier, a bit deeper, and less social when i am like this.
This sounds a little more 4ish in nature, though it could have something to do with being so-last. Maybe an Fi, sx/sp version of going to 5 in health? I can't say for sure.
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it is a kind of bitter sweet feeling. i find myself wishing that i had more people around, but then when those people are around i feel like they are invading my personal space....but then i meet interesting people like ricky who want to hangout w/ me and i get really flattered by it.
i am much happier when people are around.
I think this can be kind of explained by 7 sx/sp actually. From oceanmoonshine:
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The energy of the sexual instinct is, in some ways, at odds with the type Seven fixation. The Seven’s focus is future oriented and outward, away from the inner world, while the sexual variant is instinctual and dwells on the inner self as far as relationships and identity are concerned. This combination can make for a Seven that can be Four-like in many ways. They can have a flamboyant style and be very moody and intense. In relationships, there is often a push-pull quality. They are very attracted to the falling in love part. The buzz and high of that is very stimulating to them, almost drug-like for them. Their problems come when that buzz wears off. They want to recreate it again and again, but they also have a way of becoming attached and sometimes very dependent on their romantic partners. On the down side, they can be very clingy but don’t want at the same time to lose their freedom. When unhealthy, they can be very selfish in these relationships, things become one-sided in a way that favors the interests of the Seven.
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it isn't stimulating. i am not attracted to it and get easily bored w/ it. i like many layers. when i can be around somebody for a day and already know what they are i get easily bored and am completely unstimulated/uninspired. i lose my creativity in the way i dress, my speech, i am unamused, and find myself getting distracted or irritated.
Again, I think oceanmoonshine explains this well in 7 sx/sp
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i deal w/ stress by screaming in dispair, pulling my hair (not literally i guess grabbing is what i mean), freaking out, get scattered thoughts, feel like the world is caving in on me, i usually have to sit down and try to sort my mind out....usually everything turns out okay.
To me this sounds a lot more like 7 than 4, though a pretty extreme end. From the enneagram institute on 7s in deep stress:
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In flight from self, acting out impulses rather than dealing with anxiety or frustrations: go out of control, into erratic mood swings, and compulsive actions (manias).
Whereas 4s at the same level of stress are:
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Tormented by delusional self-contempt, self-reproaches, self-hatred, and morbid thoughts: everything is a source of torment. Blaming others, they drive away anyone who tries to help them.
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i deal w/ depression....well, i am very bad at it. it ruins my life! overall i feel very sad and lonely and there is something romantic about it, i feel so deeply and this just surges through my body. the over-all sensation is rather dark and evil and independent and free of everything and everyone...no distractions....i find ways of releasing it (art, poetry, journaling), i find ways of distracting myself (getting high, self-destructing, sometimes drinking), by sleeping a lot, not talking very much, and trying to move around...maybe do some yoga or pilates...get some endorphins pumping into my body.....endorphins help a lot.....and usually my sister...she takes me somewhere and gets me socializing again.
i usually reflect on the world, the destructiveness hahaha all of the negative things about the world; i focus on me and all of the little details about me that i am too busy to usually notice (my character, why i do the things i do), i connect w/ nature a lot more, and the spirit world---the unseen, i notice the little things in other people, an act of kindness, the way the lines wear on someone's face...their story---i see people's eyes, the hurt, the kindness, the stress, the burdens....i see it all and then i feel it deep inside of me.
i hate that i am not talking and caring on w/ others on a more social level, but when i am in this state i feel so much more connected to the human race
The combination of dwelling in your own pain and romanticizing it combined with the fact that you're willing to sit here and describe it all sounds very 4 and not at all 7 to me. However if you talk to a 7 like JRiddy who is so/sx, he's sometimes discussed the idea of connectedness that you just brought up. Kind of indulging in his own phobia to create the sx sense of connectedness. If you ask an so/sp 7 like me I don't think I would ever in a million trillion years feel more connected by being disconnected from the outside.
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innitially i distract myself from it, but when it gets passed the depression and into the melancholy, i thrive. i indulge in it, i do what i do in the above...i feel like a wise old oak tree when i am in this state...i feel the bad and the good, the yin and the yang....i feel disconnect to the social world, but totally connected to the world on a spiritual level.
Again, this sounds more 4 to me.
I guess the underlying question is which of these do you think describes you best, or do neither describe you.
Type 7
Basic Fear: Of being deprived and in pain (more emotional)
Basic Desire: To be satisfied and content—to have their needs
fulfilled
Type 4
Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significance
Basic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an
identity)
(From Enneagram Institute)
You can also think of them as 7 being externally focused, turning away from the internal in an attempt to avoid the basic fear of pain and deprivation; and 4 being internally focussed, turning towards the internal in a search for self-discovery.