Probably just coincidence, but so far I know only thin EII women.
Also I remember phaedrus once saying something about EII women don't have large/fat body type.
So, what's your experiences?
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Probably just coincidence, but so far I know only thin EII women.
Also I remember phaedrus once saying something about EII women don't have large/fat body type.
So, what's your experiences?
I think my sis might be EII. She's a little on the heavier side, but nothing ridiculous.
The tendency exists IME. My mother is a fat EII. Though she was very thin ages ago.
Though it applies to me, I highly doubt that there is a definitive correlation.
Most of the EII I know are thin, but I also know one that is curvy (not fat).
I've seen a fatty EII but she was an old lady schoolteacher so she may not count
It depends what you consider thin I guess. I'm about a size 8 (US), which is little below average but certainly not skinny.
IME, I've found Fe creative women to generally have the most angular builds (although not always), which may explain why they seem to dominate the modeling industry
Though I think, for the most part, this is more of a genetic and lifestyle thing than a Socionics one
many are because they simply don't focus on or remeber to eat much. Some of it is genetics. Others have developed coping mechanisms involving food, which are more of the larger kind. A lot of it seems to depend on their relationship with food, which is both genetic and a lot environmental and some psychological
Si-hidden agenda = regulated diet?
More like, strange relationship to food. It's either erring on the side of neglect or over indulgence.
It's almost like cognitive disonnace sort of thing - not wanting to acknowledge that they should eat a little more/differently, or that they've eaten too much.
(pics)
My EII friend is very thin and keeps dieting. She had periods of eating whole wheat and vegan food, no sugar or milk but she toned it down since then. I always encourage her to eat whatever she likes when we go out because she used to be extreme. I think she's much more balanced now but I can tell that it's very important to her to be healthy and stay thin.
Some of the EIIs I know are thin, some are medium, and some are heavy.
The types I see corresponding to a weight most are ESIs and LSIs. They seem to generally be in very good shape. I think creative Se has a relationship to a desire for strong self control.
In other words, SEIs and IEIs are the hottest...OINK OINKQuote:
Originally Posted by Marie84
EII Fi = slim
EII Ne = chubby
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1981slater
No correlation.
Was that not already a foregone conclusion for everyone? (Also... who oinks at hot women...?)Quote:
Originally Posted by 1981slater
i know two EIIs. both are quite full... like not obese...but still...and they both are always on some diet... one similar thing about them is that they are short. : )
Well I'm EII and I'm really thin. I hate that I'm skinny and have always felt the pressure to be curvy. An example of Si HA is poor body image. Oh well :(
http://aws-cf.imdoc.fr/prod/photos/0...550aa5.jpg?v=2Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP
I hope u like it
EII women are hot (and often somewhat tin). Sometime it saden me to not be LSE.
Subtypes differences? It says in the descriptions that Ne-INFjs are not prone to having stick-like figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarno
EII: His mimicry and gestures are weakly expressed. Speech is emotional and slightly inhibited; its tone is often didactic. Frequently has a disproportionate figure, often squat in physique and prone to corpulence. Gait may be a bit clumsy and waddling.
http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t..._A._Ovcharov_2
An Ne-EII girl I used to know was just like this description with an endomorph-like figure. She was lively an active on day to day basis, but also liked to indulge herself with food and sometimes alcohol (+Si hidden agenda?) and hated sports, going to the gym, and basically anything routine like jogging.
Fi-EII is described as being reserved, serious, even melancholy person inclined to asceticism, self-denial and austerity, which could lead to thinness.
I know several confirmed EII women (and I am one), and I would say the two body types are: (1) very thin and (2) athletic/muscular but not ripped. I'm not sufficiently familiar with the subtypes to know everyone's subtypes, but the three that seem most EII-Ne do fall into the second category. We are of varying heights, but probably would get chubby if we weren't as into sports as we are. I was actually pretty close to being overweight near the end of college. Back to a healthy weight now though! :biggrin:
Only if you like skinny women.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1981slater
Not all men do.
Some can be bottom heavy but most are top skinny and always have thin hands and small faces in proportion to their body
sounds good to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
...I know one who is exactly like you described.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarinana
they give the impression of being thin, it's odd, like even though might be regular or average otherwise ime
Socionic type descriptions relating to body shape or size should be ignored, as there is absolutely nothing empirical to back them up. Studies I've seen relating to MBTI types, if anything, show a mixed bag, with one "intuitive" type in at least one study being the most prone to obesity.
At least when Si HA kicks in certain way. Overall body shape is genetic. How one uses their body tells us much more. I think finding muscular body builders under this type is rather rare. :lol:
My (SLI) father was a huge child. I think my body frame is rather big (all my siblings are reasonably tall) as well but people with good senses knows that I'm not very good at using it while my father is very good at sports etc where as I'm a walking catastrophe.
This totally applies to me. There are days when I don't feel like eating at all and I eat very little and then other days, when I am able to eat everything I see from vegetables to chocolate and chips and I can't stop myself. When I don't watch my diet carefully I usually end up going from on extreme to other. For me food is an emotional thing as well, when I am under a lot of stress or when I feel depressed, I usually overeat and I find my comfort in junk food, which I usually totally avoid. On the other side when I feel happy and comfortable, I don't feel hunger almost at all and I have to force myself to eat. I lately had my overeating period and I finally got to a healthy weight range (can't get used to it), but usually when I am not facing stress I am underweight or bordeline between normal and underweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP
An EII e2 office manager that I work with is rail-slim. She has always looked terrific and dresses very tastefully. She recently lost about 5 lbs, which on her is a lot, and she asked me if I think she looks OK. I told her she looks great, but might look healthier if she gained a few pounds. I asked her why she was losing weight, and she said, "Stress."
She's a liberal intellectual, just took a trip to Paris, and is married to a truck driver. It's possible that she's reconsidering her situation. She did tell me that she's tired of being the one who always helps the other and gets nothing back (e2 waking up).
You’re perfect the way that you are. You’re sad so I was compelled to give you hope and comfortQuote:
Originally Posted by Shytan
I’m 98lbs now yay gained a pound also I’m 5’3” and I’m a size 0 used to be 00 before having a baby
In my mind, EII women who stand out are some who are very chubby/overweight in a “cute” SJW kind of way, and some who have the ideal female form, like a toned, curvy nymphlike model. I know some others who are kind of thin and androgynous. So it’s a mixed bag IMO, but more leaning towards traditionally “feminine”.
I just had an EII counselor and she was pretty heavy and "apple-shaped" so I would've found her pretty sexy except she was too empathetic (callous and emotional is sexy) and her face wasn't very good looking and she was too tan (pasty skin is attractive). I've never understood why slim women are more sexually attractive to so many people, I tend to fall hard for really heavy "apples" with really long lean strong-looking legs, flat buttocks. Some slim women are attractive, but all other things being equal, if I could choose between an obese "apple" with 100% lean strong long legs and a non-obese woman, then I'd definitely choose the obese "apple". I don't know why small noses are considered feminine either; chimpanzees have small noses, I like really large long, thick aquiline noses and large eyes with blue or blue-green pupils.
I really don't know that my preferences would be considered weird.
what type are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disturbed
I don't know for sure, but probably ESI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautiful sky
The EII I know is pear shaped and would be considered slim. She's quite feminine and presents as such. Kind of subdued and graceful, I don't see her use a forceful grip on anything and she's very dainty. I agree w/ sbbds on the outliers for sure.
I think a lot factors come in to it, not type. I've met EIIs of all sizes.
What makes someone physically gentle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
172/3 cm x 64/66 kg right now, gained 5 kgs this summer n now am buddha
+ hairy
+ fuck the police
Never heard that term before, I don't know what it means. To me, someone "physically gentle" would be like giving a seat to a pregnant woman and similar. Then, I don't think all EIIs are hyper thin. That's unrealistic. There's a lot of factors for overweight, such as different cultures, food, family etc. There are families where parents have unhealthy habits with food and kids are raised with such habits and else. About socionics, I think writings could suggest that Se PoLR ppl could be physically frail, with poor coordination, weakness, moving carelessly and prone to get injuries or similar (which I actually have seen in LIIs and NFs).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beautiful sky
the lack of body force. the lack of coordination reduces physical efficiency tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Beautiful sky
in general, N types have worse consciouse contact with own bodies and lesser interest to train them
Jung's type is one of predisposing factors to be perceived as weak/gentle
but N types may to have any body constitutions as it's not about the psyche
may to have any weight. though in average, having lesser interest to food and physical work, they tend to have lesser weightes and muscles than S types
EII are not always thin. But being N, are more often so than S types
also, as to carry bigger weight needs better bones, muscles and hence better - a stronger consitution. there can be a hypothetical link between lighter constitutions and N types, in case Jung type has a genetic factor. there can be such evolutional selection
among EIIs I know IRL, seems no one has higher than average weight. one of them is rather thin and may to look better with more wieght. I suppose they eat lesser, are lesser attracted to sweets and other high caloric meal for the pleasure. it should be the main factor why they often are thin
I perceive N types women as more physically gentle than S types women, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
Same as Fi types are perceived as more kind than average.
A kind and gentle woman - the traits of ideal feminity in my perception of TS type.
Most Americans are not EII, so maybe there's something in it. Although it seems that some EIIs are weight disadvantaged one way or another while some are not.
I've seen EIIs come in many different shapes, forms and sizes.
Very insightful. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Sol
My SEE father often observed me not eating for long periods of time while at I sat in my room or on the couch pondering ideas in my head for long periods of time or having detachments from the physical world around me with writing and general thought
This thread seems to have been diverted into Texas sharpshooting.
Some comments on this board are disgusting and fetishistic.
That being said, I don't think there is a correlation with weight and sociotype, since it is so very dependent of a lot of factors, including some factors that people can't control, such as socioeconomic status or health*. Personally I'm medium sized, normal weight, not thin and curvy because of my race; and I do hate talking about my body.
I'd rather argue that certain kinds of body movements, or the way you carry yourself are much more type related, maybe "presence" is a good word for it? Idk.
*I'm referring to health here not as an excuse to stay fat, but as illnesses or conditions which limit the capacity of doing exercise, or which impair metabolism significantly making losing weight difficult, etc.
I'm fat EII :/
I
don't
know
I'm a rail lol (but my husband loves it so :p)
I have seen heavier set INFJ but I don't know what big is big? Are we talking about 200 plus lbs? I don't know
Damn analysis paralysis...stop making me think