Originally Posted by
ArchonAlarion
No.
No it doesn't, you are Alpha shut up.
It's the way that quadra groups grow, not whether they can attain high popularity.
Have you ever seen clockwork Orange? Have you ever read The Destructors? Cliche yes, but Beta groups grow in that way.
Beta:
Beta's start off as small decentralized clans that merge and separate chaotically. Alpha is uninterested in factions, but becomes ripe for it. Each group is informally centralized. An outsider may not know who is the leader, except by keen insight or sticking around with the group for awhile. Then, it will become clear that one person in the group has pervasive emotional and often physical power over the rest of the group. The lower clan members become dependent on the leader for their status (The leader creates the aristocratic atmosphere, which gives a feeling of status to the followers).
Eventually, the Beta's will sense a zeitgeist forming, usually in the form of a single charismatic leader. The groups will assimilate eachother by whatever means, and then by the leader's dictate, a formalized organization will emerge. Even then, Beta autocracy is very chaotic. Will run more like a court-feudal system (see Nazi germany) and/or a bureaucracy (see Warhammer 40k Imperium lol).
Beta's seem to be good at gathering momentum, but once in power, they falter and break. So much in Beta politics is dedicated to scheming, factionism, and idealism that the power structure usually caves in on itself or simply putters out (Not because of any one element, but as a result of how all the factors play out).
The point is that Beta is NOT Delta! Beta is about mobility, fractioning, assimilating, spending. Beta is dynamic power, unlike static Delta power.
Delta:
Delta groups form after Beta has crashed and after Gamma has thrown in counter ideology to refocus the situation. Delta society emerges not from many small factions, but from a common (usually geographical) culture. Beta is more subversive and sneaky in its uprising (in the beginning). Each Beta group hangs onto some inuitive sense of purpose. Delta does not. Delta comes from common ground where there are accepted practices.
Delta groups have a penchant for saying things like, "The american way of life" or "This is just how we do things around here". Deltas feel a sense of cultural entitlement. The roots of Delta are strong, and the institutions remaining have proved their worth by their longevity. Now that the fire has died, and the land green, it is time to never let the Beta ruckus happen again. Stabalize, harvest, prosper, live the right kind of life. To have this stability, certain individuals of skill will need to manage society. The natural aristocracy of Delta is concealed by pomp and ceremony, often with democratic trappings.
It is only when the feeling of false Utopia is voiced by the outcasted Beta's, that the Alpha (specifically ENTp) notices and seeks to introduce new Ti/Fe. It will usually be in the form of strange philosophy, prediction, more efficient methods etc. The Delta's would not mind these things, except that it would require uprooting the whole social system. Alpha NT's have very detached models of social organization. It may be more efficient, but it's unlikely it will be easy to bring about. Delta resents Alpha in general for it's flighty idealism and demand for social changes that require a major change of perspective.
Beta: Faction, assimilation, usurp, zeitgeist, infighting, mobilize, dynamic
Delta: Common ground, stabalize, sustain, manage, static
The church of satan represents Beta organizational mindset imo.
Well anyway, I have ranted slightly. Also, this was more about power formation and such, so it's not like Beta's are constantly gang raping everyone or w/e.