Se role can be pretty volatile. Plus there is the enneagram. I also know very calm SEEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
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Se role can be pretty volatile. Plus there is the enneagram. I also know very calm SEEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
HummQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
How would that compare to the volatility in ESE?
I have amazing credit score and I've just been approved for a home loan. It's not much since I'm doing it all by myself but I can very ingenious in how I plan and do things so I've decided to get the best that I can and work with it.
Yes, that is a difference between IEE and SEE! I used to be a bit afraid of SEEs the way the react with such drama. But having spent some more time with SEEs, I get it. They need to react as they feel. Its not necessarily how they will always feel, but you do know how they feel in the moment!I Instead I hold it in. A lot of reasons. Keep peace, also because I want to understand my own feelings, and also there is that "you shouldn't" voice inside - I shouldn't feel this way, i.e., and, from past experience, I find my feelings about a thing can change so I want to keep my first reaction to myself - especially becasue I need to understand my own reaction. Like, I find someone offensive. After some thought, their reaction makes sense. They had trauma, i.e., and their reaction/action wasn't personal. That kind of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
Maybe its because IEE's hidden agenda is "to understand". I want to understand why someone is this way or that. Even if its offensive to me. I really believe that if I understand, then their thing they did that bothered me would make sense.... I really think we all make sense. And rarely ever is it just that someone is a bad person (sometimes they are - but then they often have a reason)....
The running away - yes, I do that. I read that one of IEEs dichotomies is that a conversation that is negative is not worth having. Pretty much that's how I feel. I mean if conversing with someone is making them madder and bringing out the worst in them, then we shouldn't be having the conversation. Nothing I need to say matters enough to perturb someone a lot. So I back away. Their peace matters more than my needing to talk, or gain understanding, or gaining being understood. Better just walk away sometimes.. (and there is a cost - I like understanding and being understood. But at some point it must be given up).
Wow Maritsa, that's great! I don't have an amazing credit score. Nor does my dh. That's one reason we decided to keep this house and make the best of it. We already half own it (bank owns the rest!). Wow, approved for a home loan! I want to see what you look at! Send me links to places you check out! I think its so great. And if you pick something, and want home deco advice, I will be glad to offer it! I do this for my friends. And its fine to ignore my advice too. I love knowing a persons style/preferences and helping them achieve a nice space....Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
But you are a ways from that; have to get a house first!
Then when you get a house its can be pretty labor intensive keeping it up.... Dh and I tired ourselves out cleaning the driveway, a fairly long driveway, in preparation for dh's sealing it tomorrow.. What a job! And I hauled home over 56 gallons of sealer tonight; dh is out there turning them all upside down, as a youtube video says to do. I hope it looks great. It was never sealed; its been about 7 years. And I hope we don't use all the expensive sealer so i can get some money back.
Earlier this summer we cleaned the roof and siding with about 40 gallons of outdoor bleach, plus surfactant. Before that we finished replacing the rest of he windows on this old house. The porch-to-a-room redo is coming along; today they called to say the windows will be delivered Monday. ...
Oh, my, its a money pit and I am gong to start work soon to help gt the bank account in better order...
this is in my affordable range. These homes are new and nice. http://imgur.com/IUcBWzgQuote:
Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason
Neat and nice! I like the plenty of windows in this. Also the roof in groups of 3 makes a good design...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
I just shoo'd away a raccoon on our porch... he'd tipped over the aluminum can we keep the dry cat food in, and when I turned on the light and opened the door he seemed reluctant to leave, just three feet away, staring at me... I had to take a step toward him, and then he still didn't back off too far so I had to keep moving forward, shoo'ing, to get enough space between us to bring in the cat food - which is no longer safe while the porch room is still open. ...Its a wild world out there...
You think you are doing so well and everything seems to finally fall into place and then you randomly wake up one morning and life is just a grey fog for no reason other than that your brain chemicals decide to be freaking bitches. So you wade through your day and hope it goes away soon and try not to think about winter coming. #depressionisstupid #mustmovesouth #itwillgoawaybecauseIsayso
I recommend you exercise in the morning to shake off those blues and shake on those endorphins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I'm sorry @Kim :hug: I understand how hard that can be
Ordinary morning exercises will not give enough endorphins, only will make symptoms softer. There is some probability that hard sport with regular several hours of load may change such state.Quote:
Originally Posted by spritelite
Given that terms like 'hard sport' are entirely subjective, and it is common knowledge that one does not have to do a sport eg running for several hours to give an endorphin rush, then you will have to realise you are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
Anyway, morning exercise is easy to incorporate and has several benefits that would fit the description, even walking:
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29175088
Kim, seek out friends and try to find a distraction. Maybe go out or host something pleasant at your place
2 or more hours of intensive load. I suppose training systems in sports like football, ski, karate, etc. are close to this. Even such regular load may appear few effective in her case.Quote:
Originally Posted by spritelite
Short and light morning exercises wich you've recommended will not give enough endorphins to break depression state of those who have predilection to such chronic disorder.Quote:
one does not have to do a sport eg running for several hours to give an endorphin rush
I doubt you understand what is the difference between "bad mood" and depressive disorder. According to Kim's message - 2nd case. You need to read something in psychiatry to better understand the situation.Quote:
even walking
Two LSE and a battle over objective information and neither can show empathy and compassion. :indifferent2:
Hence the quote from an LSE in my signature "do the right thing, but sorry I didn't catch how you feel"
You can always come live with me :love:
Thanks Maritsa :hug: :love:
I know all the advice above is meant well and I appreciate it, but I would caution against telling a depressed person to do something. The worst part about depression for me is that I don't have the energy to do anything and that I don't care about anything. That makes you feel pathetic already, so hearing that you should do things and knowing you can't can make you feel worse.
Like I said, I appreciate the effort though. <3
I know this is another what to do but it could work. Try vitamin D supplement s and B stress complex. It will take the D two weeks to work and it works in subtle ways. AT LEAST 2000 IU helps promote healthy cell to cell communication in the brainQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...and-depression
I agree, @Kim, this is worth a try. And I agree not telling a depressed person what to do! Vitamin D... yes, supplements or sun, or even sun lamps my Naturapath say is good. I will pray for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
Again, thanks everyone. I feel better. Thankfully I have a social environment now, which helps quite a bit as I can't really isolate. I keep remembering that with winter also comes SLE, which helps. ;) There are people here who I think I could feel comfortable calling when I feel like that to drag me out of the house. I have not had that in a while and it's nice.
On another note, I have always always hated running. In HS, long distance running was my nemesis and could bring me to tears. I always preferred biking and swimming and for the past few years have done cardio on the elliptical at the gym. For some strange reason I started running (on the treadmill at the gym) and it's been great! "Running" is probably an overstatement at this point given my pathetic pace, but honestly, that feeling when you push through the annoying first 15 minutes and then you just keep going is so fun. So maybe there is a half marathon in my future. It has always been on my bucket list as a challenge, but now it sounds like something I could actually enjoy. I have been at the gym almost every day so I can run more. Lots of changes with this move...
All my work is geared towards moving back to LA (or at least somewhere in SoCal) down the road. Coincidentally, new love interest is from LA (but stationed near me). A sign? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
He isn't going to type you unless you post a video. :muaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
If you go at a slower pace for the first 15 minutes, your problem with it being "annoying" will probably go away. A half marathon is quite doable, good luck :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
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I saw her videos years ago and recently. My opinion was - not EII. Probably other F-N.Quote:
Originally Posted by chips and underwear
To claim on objectivity he needs to read something serious in psychiatry. Then his understanding will be higher than fairytales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
Have you not considered a number of things? Difference in culture and ethnicity also information that is supplied to each?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
Which one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
ENFp?
ENFj?
INFp?
Do I seem to you to not love humanity and accept the direction of Extrovert Logic?
Is that how the mounting posts that I've written about me and my interaction with LSE come off?
@Sol please don't respond. Simply move forward. I have far too much stress in my life at the current moment to get into it with you about my type...me who has known Socionics with Russian mentors for over a decade. I am perfectly fine not addressing you about this topic. Thank you.
I look like Susan Cain in a young picture of her and her husband
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Let's have a woman's meet up
Duality works that way :DQuote:
Originally Posted by applejacks
Would you also honor such a request, if someone made it to you? Particularly about challenging their type?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritsa
Why do you continue to talk to me. You a lot of the old school. Cold. Unwelcoming. Individuals.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP
I ask you a question, which obviously relates to your past harassing of other people about their own types.
In return you call me names.
Alright.
Hopefully your request will be honored.
You guys were far more responsible for making this place inhospitable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP
That justifies harassing about someone's type, because you don't like them?
At any rate, I wanted to actually have you answer that question. While it is sticking it to you, I have no particular interest in fostering a lack of hospitality... but it was a little too outlandishly ironic to pass up commenting on.
How've things been for you otherwise?
I've never felt comfortable around you because of the way that you approach me and people in general. Let me explain. If you want to be nice and kind to someone it is best to ask your last question and only your last question. As it is you come out on the defensive and ask "would you do this?" And then to try to smooth things over you attempt at dropping it. It swings my emotions from tense angry to wth does he want from me...why nice now.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP
Because my question is entirely valid, and I'm not going to pretend like you haven't harassed many people about their types, so that you ask someone nicely to stop - yes, I laugh in your face about it. I haven't talked to you in a while, so maybe you've changed, but it's entirely ridicule-ous, in my judgement. Not that such a double standard is uncommon, but I digress.
Outside of that glaring thing, I have no particular malice toward you.
I haven't spoken to you in a while so I'd say hello.
To answer your question I wouldn't honor it because in my dual pairs things that are done that might be considered a stop are often either forgotten about as the objective is to repair and maintain the integrity of the relationship or they are addressed at a later time when people are at ease and may respond to them and not be stressed. So I can tell him not to respond and he'll know "not now" and he is always welcome to come back to it or send me something comforting to Gage my mood.Quote:
Originally Posted by UDP