Where are you all coming from?
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Where are you all coming from?
y so no AIM :(
Do I get to be the charismatic SF war leader?
How about the charismatic Alpha Extravert war leader?
You can be the war leader if we can find a decent war. They're kinda hard to come by nowadays...
Maybe we should make one. Think "Flame Warriors" could be played out as an act?
What plans? What are you talking about?!
I think you've been struck by this terrible thing. :p
As, of course, there certainly aren't any "plans" to be intercepted, after all. *whistles innocently*
the fragile balance between objective and subjective philosophy on this forum is being disrupted
subjective does not = introversion
I remember reading an article on Wikisocion about the Ethics-Logic dichotomy, and how it, too, is often confused with "subjective thinking" and "objective thinking".
In passing, it mentions that the introversion-extraversion is more likely to be that dividing line. They were probably getting at how Extraverted functions pick up information on objects, and how Introverted functions pick up information from the "fields" between them.
If you want to see the article, here's the link.
Here's the quote, though:
I'm not entirely sure about that, either, as I think objectivity and subjectivity can be a learned behaviour of any type, which I think is also in that article, as well. I'm not entirely sure if it is, though. :PQuote:
It is interesting that C. G. Jung correlated the tendency towards objectivity not with logic / ethics but with another dichotomy – vertness.... Introverted types differ from extroverted in the fact that they are oriented predominantly not on the object and not on objective data, but on subjective factors. In an introvert, between the perception of an object and its own action there is a subjective opinion, which prevents the action from acquiring an objective nature." [9, p.415]
@Coo: You're very welcome. It's my pleasure to point out delusions and correct them. *continues to whistle innocently*
Currere, this is your fault.
From what I understand, it's divided like this:
Subjectivity: Se, Fi, Ti, Ne
Objectivity: Si, Te, Fe, Ni
Where a necessary part of objectivity is the ability to distinguish between objects; and with subjectivity, the experience of the information is emphasized, and boundaries between objects are not.
The impression objective & subjective implies a difference in the information itself which is processed is wrong. We know that objectivity & subjectivity are two separate ways of looking at the same thing.
That could make sense, because in one of Augusta's articles, she quickly defines the elements, dividing them into static and dynamic. She then states that the static ring of functions is "analytical thinking" and the dynamic ring of functions is "synthetic thinking".
Since the two are opposite methods, I could definitely see that being the case. :)
@Khola: We will not abandon them to torment and death! Not while we have strength left. ;)
So, I take, it we need to begin a Fellowship of NTs to accomplish this *ahem* "task" of ours?
The value of LIIs is plummeting due to inflation. Better invest in ESEs instead.
Hehe, I'm in demand :redface: