What are your meal choices like? (Poll to be added momentarily).
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What are your meal choices like? (Poll to be added momentarily).
Generally healthy. I won't refrain from the occasional coffee binge or junk snack, but I see no reason to eat unhealthy food consistently. It only hampers my mental and physical functioning. Plus that shit can lead to break outs and what not. Gotta stay pure :D
Poll is up. I'm sort of between option 2 and 3 (in case it isn't clear, option 2 means you eat healthy more often than not, and option 3 means it's about half and half). I'll vote 3 though, since it's probably more accurate overall.
I don't eat complete garbage, but I don't really think about what I eat. I eat what I crave and sometimes that's good food and other times that's not so good food. That said, I don't just eat junk food all the time by any means.
I usually keep good track of what I eat. I definitely have my occasional binge, sometimes even on purpose, but I am one of the most healthy eaters that I know. I mean, I give my D&D group a hard time by not allowing them to order pizza every week. Once a month is totally okay though.
Yesterday I went to the store to buy doughnuts! I just had this one goal. Well, they didn't have any that I really wanted, so I didn't buy any. But I did get pop tarts (hadn't had those ever before) and I got a bag of Reese's Buttercup candy. I actually regret the last one. It's over a pound of sweets. It wasn't expensive, but even if I hold back and don't eat too much at a time, it will be enough to keep my daily calories out of balance for many days. Maybe I should tape up the rest of the bag and not eat it.
The point is that I don't feel bad about replacing a healthy meal for an unhealthy one every once in a while. I know I won't get my proteins and I won't get my usual micronutrients, but it's okay. I will get things I otherwise wouldn't. Chocolate has potassium and magnesium, pastries and beer have B-vitamins, etc. I don't believe in ADDING unhealthy food to othervise balanced eating. That means I just get extra calories and that's not good. I'll have that chocolate in stead of oranges and I'll have a burger in stead of a lunch meat salad and it's all okay.
I don't eat much. But when I do, it's generally healthy. I grew up on skim milk and salads. Heh. And I don't have much of a sweet tooth at all.
I like cheese, butter, oil, chilli, spices.
I love really rich chocolate cake. Nice fudge.
I like really cheesy food, food with lots of butter/oil.
And I love having large amounts of chilli, really spicy food etc.
Maybe I should like bland food I can't taste. But it just doesn't turn me on.
Lot of junk food isn't that unhealthy, mostly it's just the fries that are. Even the name "junk food", comes from the packing materials (paper wrappings etc), not from the quality of food or it's healthiness itself.
Then again lot of food that is generally considered to be "healthy", really aren't that healthy.
Lot of the "research" in this area just seems to bs. With research results that contradict eachother coming up all the time.
But anyway, I just eat what's cheapest of the foods that I'm willing to eat. And make sure I get all the necessary nutrients the body actually needs. And stuff with antioxidants etc.
This is what my entire diet typically consists of
- A sandwich (whole wheat bread, with variations of ingredients, but usually thin sliced honey turkey is the typical choice, unless I go to a sandwich shop at work)
- Spaghetti with no sauce (once in a long while I actually will prepare sauce)
- A breakfast taco
- A can of soup
- Eggs
- Biscuits (that would be buttermilk scones for you across the pond, not "biscuits")
- Shells & cheese
- Orange juice
- A can of Coke
Every once in a blue moon I mix in a muffin or a cereal bar or bake pumpkin bread.
And that's about it. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, all optional, all inconsistent.
Variety is the spice of life imo
Yeah, except when that variety turns into 15 extra lbs. on your gut! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tereg
It's hard to find that balance. Which is why I just go on crusades.
During the week I have three meals a day, with occasional snacks if I'm feeling ravenous. I only eat when I'm truly hungry, which is why I generally eat just three meals; if I start getting into snacking it quickly turns into mindless indulgences that I don't need or really even want.
On the weekends I am a bit more haphazard w my eating, especially this time of year. Last night I went to two holiday parties, each of which was brimming w holiday goodies in which I indulged :D And I just got back from my parents' house, where there is always tons of tasty junk.
Nearly everything I eat is whole/natural/unprocessed [lots of oatmeal, apples, and chicken], but I'm not a food nazi by any means.
I ate very unhealthy for years. I used to have 16 ounce steaks every-single-day sometimes twice a day and eggs....oh my, the eggs. Now Im almost completely vegetarian sticking with the all natural things...not really for the health aspect, I just cannot stomach meat anymore.
Oh, and as someone who studied to be a personal trainer and for a long time abided by hardcore fitness laws of nutrition, I think that the whole "you must eat every three to four hours or your metabolism will slow down and your body will catabolize its own muscle!!" hype is just that: hype. Unless you have a truly raging metabolism or are training for a hardcore sport/activity like bodybuilding, it's simply not necessary.
I find "eating healthy" to be too difficult for me to constantly remember, and it takes the sensorial pleasure out of food. I typically eat healthier type food (natural, organic, whatever, and stay away from processed junk) just because I happen to like the way it tastes better and i have a pretty "refined palette," or so I've been told. I don't eat any "healthy stuff" that tastes like shit or city grass. That just feels medicinal.
That said, though I eat healthier foods, I don't tend to eat in a healthy manner. If I'm working and need to be productive, I will, because I definitely feel a difference in how my eating affects my energy levels. If I'm really stressed, anxious, or in a self-destructive mood, my eating habits will go to hell. I've definitely gone through bouts of really bad binge eating, followed by binge eating and induced vomitting when that became boring, followed by hurting myself in other manners when that became boring...
Currently I'm in a "chain smoker" phase.
I know none of this is good for me, but ugh...
Really?? I've been trying to eat every 3 hours and I feel disgusting :( I got that three hour diet book and yeah...i just feel fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by songofsappho
Poor muslims :(Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
Did I word the second option poorly? I meant for it to represent eating conscientiously most of the time - significantly more than half of the time. (An example might be generally going by the food groups or whatever, but occasionally splurging here or there.) Is that what those of you that voted for that option took it to mean?
Yeah, really. I saw a while back where you said you were trying that, but I didn't say anything bc I take a "to each his own" attitude towards it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
But, especially if the goal is to burn fat, I think a person is better off going longer between periods of eating. To oversimplify: your body burns fat when a] blood sugar is low [which means less insulin, a growth hormone, floating around for one thing] and/or b] your caloric intake is lower than necessary for homeostasis.
It's also easier eating just three meals a day, in terms of both time and satiety. For me, enjoying three meals of 600-900 calories each is infinitely better than rationing five mini-meals of a measely 300-500 [that's if you're counting calories, which I don't do anymore]. And if you get hungry in between, by all means have an apple and some almonds or something....
In the end, of course, it's your call. But if a book is telling you to eat every three hours and you're not hungry, I say go w your body's message and not the book author's.
Yep, though I wonder how 'healthy' my diet is sometimes, in terms of maybe not eating quite enough or missing out on vitamins and stuff. I mostly eat cereal, sandwiches, and assorted fresh fruits and vegetables. Once a week though I hit the mongolian bbq place and eat the below. It's all I eat that day too, which is probably not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elro
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That's not that bad. :p Still quite a bit better than me. I was just wondering since there seems to be a strong bias towards the second option.Quote:
Originally Posted by munenori2
I have been inspired to eat a bowl of chicken soup now
When I remember to eat it is somewhat varied. Here are my priorities when eating:
1. Healthy
2. What is readily available?
3. What is quick?
4. Mood
5. Am I entertaining friends?
I was the same, and I generally agree with you. I still think it's technically better to keep the metabolism going and whatnot, but it definitely isn't imperative on the general level it's preached to be. Plus, now part of my training has to do with abstinence, which will "strengthen" the body (or mind) a lot more than eating what dante the fitness guru tells you at specific times :DQuote:
Originally Posted by songofsappho
Yeah, I'm the same way. Might start with some haphazard coffee binge and cookie indulgence, move onto shots and beers, then just some random painful shit lol. Hope your chain smoking phase doesn't end up with a 30 minute vomit session like mine did a few weeks back :D but damn, it was worth it...those blacks were crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ritella
and I like your usage of the word 'boring'—it's very encapsulating of the essential theme here. Some people may feel sad boohoo and take it out on their poor bodies, but it seems for you (and definitely is for me), that the 'boredom' is more or less a default, where such stimulations are sought to alleviate it ("ugh, why is shit so dumb" kind of thing). Anything to feel alive :D
Yeah, it has to do with your goals. If you're primarily trying to build muscle ["bulking"], eating every 3-4 hours is good because it means your body has near-constant access to carbs/sugars/proteins to build muscle... but this is the exact opposite of the situation that is best for burning fat ["cutting"].Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
What sort of abstinence, strrrng? Do you do fasts?
hmm...I think people could cut while eating every 3-4 hours, if they were sticking to light foods. Like boxers will do that—the lower weights—to be able to constantly train and have quick access to substantial and efficient nutrients/energy. And as for bulking, I think that requires much higher amounts of proteins and carbs. I hate those people though, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by songofsappho
Kind of. It's mostly related to sleep and the nature of the training. I never stay awake for less than a day anymore, and ideally try to get a few training sessions in throughout a 1.5-2 day span...so eventually it's like you're training just to stay awake. And as for food, I may abstain for extended periods...just sort of make sure I get the essentials and not freak out about it after that. water, sandwich here, whatever. It's all about the pain :D <3 ...otherwise it would be boring...you should see the people at my gym...Quote:
What sort of abstinence, strrrng? Do you do fasts?
I really need to ask this now: what exactly is the difference between a) skipping from binge eating to binging and purging to self-mutilation (or whatever) to chain smoking to coffee binges and b) sticking to one of the above?Quote:
Yeah, I'm the same way. Might start with some haphazard coffee binge and cookie indulgence, move onto shots and beers, then just some random painful shit lol. Hope your chain smoking phase doesn't end up with a 30 minute vomit session like mine did a few weeks back :D but damn, it was worth it...those blacks were crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ritella
If I'm really stressed, anxious, or in a self-destructive mood, my eating habits will go to hell. I've definitely gone through bouts of really bad binge eating, followed by binge eating and induced vomitting when that became boring, followed by hurting myself in other manners when that became boring...
Currently I'm in a "chain smoker" phase.
I know none of this is good for me, but ugh...
and I like your usage of the word 'boring'—it's very encapsulating of the essential theme here. Some people may feel sad boohoo and take it out on their poor bodies, but it seems for you (and definitely is for me), that the 'boredom' is more or less a default, where such stimulations are sought to alleviate it ("ugh, why is shit so dumb" kind of thing). Anything to feel alive :D
In the end, the effect is self-harm and I don't see how a variety is any better than only binging or only self-mutilation. Ultimately, to be very frank, the motive for all of you is feeling sad boohoo, only you rationalize it as boredom. Using self-harm to "feel alive" is not to alleviate general teenager boredom no matter how you wish to romanticize it.
I'm not rationalizing or romanticizing anything; you say that because you're assuming that I, or someone else, would need to. And I don't. I don't need to put any kind of "positive spin" on or attempt to justify anything. I wrote what I wrote merely as a blunt description of my behaviour patterns. If you think it's a rationalization, that's you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
To be very frank, i'm not entirely sure what my motives are. It's probably a combo of boredom, anxiety, frustration with life, low grade OCD, and a shitty childhood. And I'm not a teenager; I'm 25. And I never said or implied that a "variety" is better than only binging or only self-mutilation. I'm just describing a behaviour here.
Ritella, I was referring to the reply to your post, which I consider a strange rationalization:
Sorry if my post was ambiguous.Quote:
and I like your usage of the word 'boring'—it's very encapsulating of the essential theme here. Some people may feel sad boohoo and take it out on their poor bodies, but it seems for you (and definitely is for me), that the 'boredom' is more or less a default, where such stimulations are sought to alleviate it ("ugh, why is shit so dumb" kind of thing). Anything to feel alive :D
Hi, Kim! :D *waves* How are you doing these days?
To answer the original question - When I do eat, it's generally relatively healthily, if only because too much unhealthy food makes me feel yucky. The people I live with are also health-conscious, so that way most of what I find in the fridge or cupboards is going to be good for me. That makes things easier.
I've never been particularly concerned about my weight, and I've never been on any diet for the sole purpose of getting thinner. I figure if I eat healthy and stay fairly active things will work themselves out. I'm sure it helps a bit that I'm naturally slim. For me it's more a matter of needing to stay fit and trim - the motivating myself to exercise is harder for me than eating right.
Okay, yeah I did think you were referring to my post as well. No offense taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I can't live without meat, apart from that I also eat a lot sushi and some seafood from time to time.
Salads I also like but I don't consider that eating, more like something I eat when I'm not hungry.
If by 'binge and purge' you're implying throwing up, you're mistaken. I've never done anything remotely bulimic; the puking was after a week of black n milds :D And why are you asking what the difference is? The difference is in the actions themselves and their effects; the motivation for them is the same—thrill, charge, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Well, the variety is derived from boredom, because eventually eating junk got annoying and I wanted to do my two-a-day exercise thing. And then that got boring because I realized I didn't need much sleep, etc. And why are you assuming a motive? Doing so implies that people have to 'feel' a way to behave a certain way, and thus that there is some norm. Ever consider that some of us just operate differently from you, and naturally want to experience more "intense" things for the feeling of it (so there is no "feeling" until the stimulation impacts)? What it comes down to with me is, I don't know how I would breathe if I was just exercising daily, sleeping well, etc. I'd feel like a fucking robot. I need to sporadically decide to run at 3am, go up to 7/11, buy blacks, smoke 2, run back, hit the bag, and drink coffee, because I need such contradictory feelings of intense stimulation to feel alive. I realized long ago that harnessing such impulses only detriments me in the long run. And tell me this: if I get pleasure from self harm, is it hurting me? And I'm not referring to cutting my wrists as I drown in INFp agony; more along the lines of aspects of exercise and whatnot. Sounds like you're making some assumptions here, Kim. I was never attempting to justify my behavior; what a disgustingly presumptuous notion. I was simply trying to evince the psychology behind it, because I find it interesting how some people are content with what I would deem boring lives, and others aren't, etc. Most of the time, I laugh at people who want me to justify it to them irl. They're just looking for a way to rationalize something that they're too scared to do. I wouldn't be surprised if those were your motivations here.Quote:
In the end, the effect is self-harm and I don't see how a variety is any better than only binging or only self-mutilation. Ultimately, to be very frank, the motive for all of you is feeling sad boohoo, only you rationalize it as boredom. Using self-harm to "feel alive" is not to alleviate general teenager boredom no matter how you wish to romanticize it.
I always try to eat healthy, but I don't say no to cakes and the like
I probably should have voted for the second option upon further thought.
You were implying that some people self-destruct because they are boo-hoo sad and take it out on their bodies, but the cool kids (my term), and here you were referring to what Ritella wrote and to your own behavior, do it to alleviate boredom and because you need the stimulation. Perhaps you can say that for yourself, but the way you reacted to her post seemed to imply that she is one of the cool kids who self-destructs for the same reasons you do, which I found to be a strange rationalization of what she described.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
And I never said you were justifying your behavior. That's a misunderstanding on your part. I find it amusing that now you are telling me that I wrote that because I have to rationalize being scared of drinking black coffee, shots, or chain smoking. Don't be ridiculous.Quote:
Kim. I was never attempting to justify my behavior; what a disgustingly presumptuous notion. I was simply trying to evince the psychology behind it, because I find it interesting how some people are content with what I would deem boring lives, and others aren't, etc. Most of the time, I laugh at people who want me to justify it to them irl. They're just looking for a way to rationalize something that they're too scared to do. I wouldn't be surprised if those were your motivations here.
:D I am doing well, thanks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Minde
My point was that a large amount of people only engage in self-destructive behaviors when they get sad, while others engage in behaviors which are termed "self-destructive," but which are pleasing/thrilling to them, for different reasons. There's a difference between binging on cookies after you get dumped, and depriving yourself of sleep while working out more. The former is a reaction to mitigate pain, while the latter is a volitional act to generate pleasure (through pain). Many people would say that the latter is harmful, stupid, silly; their misunderstanding on such types of things is what I was addressing earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Ok, my misunderstanding. But heh, if you think I'm saying people are rationalizing their fears of petty things like that, you're mistaken. I could give countless examples of this behavior, but I don't think it's necessary to get the point across.Quote:
And I never said you were justifying your behavior. That's a misunderstanding on your part. I find it amusing that now you are telling me that I wrote that because I have to rationalize being scared of drinking black coffee, shots, or chain smoking. Don't be ridiculous.
I see. I guess my reaction would be that self-destructing out of sadness is nothing to look down upon and not feeling pleasure through pain does not mean people live boring lives. This is where we probably disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
For example, I started to run because I want to run a half marathon (in the distant future, lol) and while I feel good after running, I don't enjoy the pain that sets in after a while and I don't feel the need to enjoy that pain because I suppose I don't need that kind of stimulation. I derive the pleasure from monitoring my progress. In the end these are just different rewards from the same thing.
I definitely don't think it's detestable simply for being driven by sadness. I guess I was referring to more superficial reactions to transient bad moods. But real sadness is something I would never criticize a person for—especially if they we were looking for a release through "unhealthy" methods. Similar to your empathy with obesity, I suppose. And my comment about boring lives wasn't necessarily about pleasure or pain, but more in reference to people who seem too content. I feel like pain is a part of pushing the envelope, and I just dislike it when I see people wasting their experience with comfortable limitations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah, I suppose this is just where we differ. I mean, I've known people who can enjoy physical intensity without too much pain, but it comes to a point where to two become intertwined, and you're either in or out. This isn't an area I will waste too much time judging people on (aside from indifferent mockery if I feel like it), but it's largely in part why I don't enjoy exercising with basically everyone—because they get in my way with their 'weakness.'Quote:
For example, I started to run because I want to run a half marathon (in the distant future, lol) and while I feel good after running, I don't enjoy the pain that sets in after a while and I don't feel the need to enjoy that pain because I suppose I don't need that kind of stimulation. I derive the pleasure from monitoring my progress. In the end these are just different rewards from the same thing.
Yes, it's this emphasis on being weak or strong that I can't quite relate to. Probably much like your dad. I would have stopped to watch the ducks and tried to explain to you how that enriches your life! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
Or my priority is to be strong in other areas of my life, like career.
So you did read some of those old threads :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
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Oh, you meant the threads? I was confused because you said blogs. Yes, I read some and that one was so funny. I sided with your dad, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
This is so interesting! I prefer exercising alone or with someone who is not competitive and competition isn't really a motivation factor for me. I really love watching my progress like increasing intensity, running a longer distance, etc. I used to go to the gym with my ISTp ex, but we each did our thing (we did weights together, but obviously not for competition) and just enjoyed going together and spending time at the gym. I guess for me it's about myself and how I can get better and healthier and stronger. Perhaps it's because I used to play Basketball where competition plays out differently than in track or things like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
Diana and the hill is cute! :D
I had one great experience in middle school though. We were trying out for track competitions and I was ok in the 100 meters, but never nearly good enough for the relay team. Then my friend said to run the try-outs in her group and I didn't want to because she was REALLY fast. But she convinced me and I ran by far my fastest time ever (about two seconds faster) and was the first substitute runner for the relay team. The funny thing was that I was TERRIFIED I would have to actually run because it was not really in my reality that I was a fast runner. I didn't have to run, so I could enjoy the success. ;)
perfect to me. ill be your exercise partner. playful competition is my main motivating factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
If I train with someone, I don't want it to be playful, and competition feels superfluous. We have an agreement to do what we're gonna do, and that's it. Just don't fall behind, because you will not be helped, lol. And also don't expect any "enjoyment" from it; I'll most likely cringe and leave if someone gets all "positive." Just hit me in the stomach during leg raises and I'll be your friend forever :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
INFps...:8*:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
dbmmama, I think it was you who posted a video of that bitchy personal trainer? I could never work with someone like that. I would punch her nose and walk out. I couldn't even help it...;)
strrrng, you need to be my personal trainer as it appears you have like what...a 14 pack? I've been trying to get myself a six pack for the last 3 months and it's not working...if not a six pack, at least some slight definition :(
:lol: just run! (with an empty stomach)Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
i like to eat healthy foods. unprocessed, and rather bland. i also like to take myself incredibly seriously on the internet.
why did they have to do it though? cause it tastes so good? well it doesn't. personally, food from a microwave tastes really bad to me. i want good cheese not a bubbling mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by dolphin
eh, it doesn't seem worth it. eating healthy is like taking birth control. nah, not really, but you get the idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfall
I think this is interesting, because I'm exactly the opposite (I think, that in part it shows a difference of NT vs SF club). I don't like to exercise with other people too much, because when they get competitive, they usually don't like it when they lose, so I have to let them win and get a lot less of an exercise; I understand how it's stupid, but that's just the way I'm done. The only execption is a race, there I feel more justified to do well without others being angry at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
In team sports, it's different, because the performance level is more diffuse, and you can't exactly pinpoint with certainty who makes a difference and who does not.
That's interesting. I pretty much dislike exercising with people for the same reason. They either want you to pander to them, "buddy-up" for support, or yeah, they get competitive in a "friendly" way, which is dumb to me. If you want to compete, just say it; and it should be something worth competing at (i.e. sparring, not random weight lifting shit). So, I can't really say that I would feel bad owning someone if they did try to compete, because it's their own fault. And if they really don't like it, maybe they'll do each of us the favor of not training with me again. That being said, this situation is highly unlikely, as I can count the number of people I have trained/would train with on one hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by FDG
Yeah, I pretty much hate that. I just don't want to take up others' slack or have them bother with mine. Sure, there's elegance in watching individuals band together and perform in harmony. But I still can't be bothered for any group-think, "go for it, guys!" bullshit.Quote:
In team sports, it's different, because the performance level is more diffuse, and you can't exactly pinpoint with certainty who makes a difference and who does not.
On a side note, tendencies in this realm seem to be generally related to instinct stacking.
I couldn't work out with others..too distracting. I like going to the gym and watching fat people treat it like it's social hour. Hey, they're at least inside a gym so maybe that's a step up.
Exactly, lol. Walking on the treadmill with the tv on, your ipod in, and a magazine in front of you. Yeah, go for it, the biggest loser. These people need to be sent out to the woods and scared shitless into actually living. I hate seeing them at the weight room; they are a disgrace to exercise. There are old men in there that go harder than 27 year-old guys (who are there with their girlfriends, ugh).Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
Yeah, everyday I go I see at least 2 or 3 talking on their cellphones...talking on their cellphones while they're running on a treadmill. What on earth could be that important? There's this one woman I watch who goes with her friend and she'll do about 5 minutes on the treadmill going the slowest pace possible, flip thru her magazine, stop, get a drink, chit chat for a good half hour, go do a two or three arm lifts and then go into the corner and sit on machines while catching up with her friend. I mean wtf...just say screw it and eat yourself up to 500 lbs. Might as well.
Yeah. People hanging by the strings of their last hope of life. I guess being there gives them some illusion of doing something and boosts their spirits, lol. Plus, they probably figure if they can make themselves go there, they can prevent the gorging that would've occurred otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
How great people are. What our society has come to, when mediocrity is the benchmark, and people simply do things perfunctorily, not even understanding the benefit it provides.
It would be so much easier to just exterminate people. Oh, but they deserve life and shit. Forgot.
D&D is fuckin deadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristiina
Eh, Ive lost 60 pounds in about a year. Walked, exericise, now I eat better.
By the end of the school year I probably will be down 70-80 pounds.
Damn you electronic games and introspection!
At least by college Ill be a sexy beast. lol.
Who am I kidding, Im an ENTp-Ti.
You know, people have lives outside of the gym and your surveillance radius. I find it remarkable how much you assume to know about people you watch. No offense, but what is it with your desire to exaggerate how boring and pointless people's lives are when it's just not everyone's idea of an exciting life to run themselves into convulsions?Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
I can't say that watching fat people in the gym is any more exciting and productive than reading a magazine on the treadmill. I like my gym because people mind their own freaking business. Are you people really that insecure that you need to put down people to feel good about yourselves? Because I can't see any other reason for that sort of behavior.
I eat well. I don't like most processed, fast food, or chain restaurant food. It either tastes like plastic, it's too salty, or there's too much fat and sugar but very little actual flavor. Too much fat or sugar screws up my stomach. I'm a bit of a food snob in that respect. I'll go out of my way to cook real food with more flavorful ingredients than open cans of whatever just 'cause it's the easiest. I don't substitute any 'low fat' stuff, though. I just use the good stuff sparingly. One piece of damn good cheesecake once in a while is better than a slice of bland, low fat cheesecake every other day.
I don't like socially working out with others, but I do like working out competitively with people. I've tried working out alone—following a routine and all—but I guess the satisfaction of knowing it will benefit me in the long-run isn't enough for me. It's like, "I'm in shape now, so why do I have to work out now?" A shitty attitude, I know, but I can't help it. So the only way I can really feel motivated to work out is if it's competitive in some form. Growing up, I used to juggle swim team with soccer. And after that I started taking this Muay Thai class, which was the first and only contact sport I've tried. Anyway, it just feels like winning now is more motivating to me than potential long-term benefits. I care about both, of course. Unfortunately, unless the problem is right in my face, I don't really notice it sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
No shit. That has nothing to do with my point. And I could care less about their enthralling lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I don't presume anything; they put it all out on display. It's not my fault they're transparent.Quote:
I find it remarkable how much you assume to know about people you watch.
Christ. I made a statement about one area of activity, not peoples' entire lives; stop going all NeFi righteous on me. Like I said, I don't know, presume to know, or care about their lives; I was merely criticizing the recurring patterns I've seen with these abject fools in the weight room. They train like pussies. It doesn't have to be running one's self into convulsions; simply turning off the t.v. and getting your fat ass moving on the treadmill is a start.Quote:
No offense, but what is it with your desire to exaggerate how boring and pointless people's lives are when it's just not everyone's idea of an exciting life to run themselves into convulsions?
Ugh. I don't watch them; they're right there! I can't help but notice the lard trundling on the stairmaster when I walk to the water fountain.Quote:
I can't say that watching fat people in the gym is any more exciting and productive than reading a magazine on the treadmill.
Heh. I like people to mind their business too. And I also like people who go to gyms to actually belong there; not just take up space to convince themselves they're actually doing something with their fat asses.Quote:
I like my gym because people mind their own freaking business.
Oh God, Oprah. Lol, give me a break, Kim. Noticing how pathetic someone is, and wanting to curtail their participation in an activity they clearly aren't qualified for, is hardly criteria for being insecure. By your twisted moral judgment, I could just as easily say, "are you that insecure and self-righteous that you feel the need to 'correct' me for rebuking some lards?" You want people to be able to mind their own business, then mind your own, and fuck off with your passive-aggressive, sanctimonious judgments. The fact that you can't see any other reason for our behaviors betrays your insular "morality."Quote:
Are you people really that insecure that you need to put down people to feel good about yourselves? Because I can't see any other reason for that sort of behavior.
Have a nice day.
If you are not presuming anything, what ARE you doing (this is a rhetorical question)?Quote:
People hanging by the strings of their last hope of life. I guess being there gives them some illusion of doing something and boosts their spirits, lol. Plus, they probably figure if they can make themselves go there, they can prevent the gorging that would've occurred otherwise.
I found myself pretty openly aggressive, but ok. I find it pretty fucking annoying that you deem your way of living the only one that is worth being on this earth and everyone else is just pathetic. It's getting old. I could go around saying how I find your life pathetic because all you do is work out and hang out on the internet, while I do xyz and I could repeat it ad nauseum like you are doing for whatever redundant purpose until I have convinced myself that I and the ones like me are the shit and the rest are all losers who should get the fuck out of my sight.Quote:
You want people to be able to mind their own business, then mind your own, and fuck off with your passive-aggressive, sanctimonious judgments. The fact that you can't see any other reason for our behaviors betrays your insular "morality."
Get a fucking grip and grow the hell up because your bubble is pretty damn small, which will make your life pretty damn limited and if you shout out this bullshit when you are 30, people will think you are pretty damn ridiculous. What the fuck are you studying Socionics for?
Is that enough fucking Se for you self-righteous beta bully?
I will have to recover now. Going ESTp on Nick has worn me out.
lol, fair enough. I guess I initially interpreted it as me actually judging, when it was more of an intuition I ran with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Dumb argument. Now you're the one presuming. I don't deem my way of life the only worthwhile one; I just have certain irritations with recurring behavioral patterns I've seen in others. So what if I express myself dogmatically at times? And say what you like; you don't know what I do with my life, anyway. Let's not forget that I was criticizing one area of interest—exercise. There are no generalities here, only strong condemnation for people that exercise for the wrong reasons, or do it in half-assed ways.Quote:
I found myself pretty openly aggressive, but ok. I find it pretty fucking annoying that you deem your way of living the only one that is worth being on this earth and everyone else is just pathetic. It's getting old. I could go around saying how I find your life pathetic because all you do is work out and hang out on the internet, while I do xyz and I could repeat it ad nauseum like you are doing for whatever redundant purpose until I have convinced myself that I and the ones like me are the shit and the rest are all losers who should get the fuck out of my sight.
My bubble, lol? Keep making assumptions about what I do and don't believe based off of limited information; I could care less.Quote:
Get a fucking grip and grow the hell up because your bubble is pretty damn small, which will make your life pretty damn limited and if you shout out this bullshit when you are 30, people will think you are pretty damn ridiculous. What the fuck are you studying Socionics for?
grrr now I'm aroused.Quote:
Is that enough fucking Se for you self-righteous beta bully?
I will have to recover now. Going ESTp on Nick has worn me out.
When delta meets beta...:p
Seriously, this is so typical, I can't even continue without feeling sort of ridiculous.
Just quit being an ass. :D
I can't help it :D Just like you can't help being moralistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I'm eating a lot lately. trying to get over 3500 kcals a day. I'm burning about that much w/ excercise(my habit is about 1000 calories a day) and my ever increasing metabolic rate. i just ate 1000 calories in 10 minutes and i've digested it already and am hungry again. will it ever stop?
I eat rice and peanuts and sandwiches and grapes and salmon and aspartame.
I eat super healthy most of the time, mixed in w/ very, very bad foods here and there. I am completely inconsistent. It completely depends on my mood.
On healthy days...
I like sugar-free oatmeal w/ soymilk on it and blueberries. Salad w/ a few olives instead of dressing. whole grain rice, salmon, veggies, tofu stirfry, sushi, whole-grain cereal, and juices (I get caught up in the "trendy" ones like pomegranite and acai berries for the antioxidant thing). Also baby carrots, popcorn cakes, dried berries and nuts, pasta w/ red sauce made w/o hardly any oil. I also eat a lot of produce.
On other days...
mmm...giant chocolate bar! biscotti...sugar cookies....pancakes. Waffles! Cheeseburgers! Rootbear floats...fruit snacks. Brownies!
And then I love going out for Indian, Thai, Italian, Tapas, Mexican, etc.
I think it averages out to probably a normal diet in the end.
Jesus christ kim, calm down.
ooooh Tapas. I just got back from a nice little Tapas restaurant. A+
First day of study abroad trip in Spain:
Professor: Tonight we're going to a tapas bar, and then -
Random male student: YES!
Professor: Not a "topless" bar; a tapas bar. Anyway....
Ah, memories.
LOOL!!Quote:
Originally Posted by songofsappho
I eat anything that looks good, or if i have a craving I usually just buy it than thinking it is not healthy. I think thats why my weight goes up and downs. Becuase when you eat, you tend to eat more, when you skip a meal you tend to eat less during the course of time.
I hate working out socially, too. Nor would I ever simply hold up a routine for the sake of consistency, feeling good, or "benefiting" myself; that would be redundant. And although nothing compares to a good sparring session to me, I still find myself able to train fairly consistently. So, I believe this comes from a certain 'self-competition.' I don't think about how much I'm gonna benefit when I run; I just see the task at hand, a goal, and focus on accomplishing it as strongly as possible. And since most people don't really want to compete, I have to do it myself. Exercises like sprints, medicine ball chest slams, and various martial arts drills provide that, because it's like you're in a race with yourself, to see who breaks first. And once you've mastered that kind of self-control, competing with others becomes a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allie
A lot of people like friendly competition -- racing in a sprint and then complimenting each other after, giving a high five after a nice bench press set. That is all so absurd and artificial to me, I don't know where to begin. Real competition with people is where there's an implicit agreement that you're trying to drive each other to failure. The appreciation of the other person will follow naturally, from seeing that there is someone who is willing to push you, not just praise you for bullshit.
Other.
By that I mean I eat whatever is in front of me. Surprisingly I stay around 175.
mostly vegetables, meat, eggs, diary, greens, legumes, and fruit. No bread, seldom pasta, sometimes potatoes and rice. Pie/sweet stuff ... rarely.
Ideally very healthy, but I can't always keep up with it and there are moments when I give in to the abominable pizza, salami, chips, sauce, canned tasty junk..
I'm allergic to gluten... so... not that.
live off bread and cereal.
I don't know. I have no issues eating healthy because I don't like food in that way. I'm just not sure what even is healthy, and if I did know and had a diet that made sense to me then I wouldn't have any issues with it.
Because theres so many conflicting opinions on food I feel overwhelmed and end up just eating what I want because I hate being wrong in thinking that what Im eating is healthy when it isnt. So if i dont even focus on healthiness then i cant be wrong
I eat to stay alive it varies really. I'm going to live to be an old man let's put it that way, but I'm not going to be overly concerned about it what its not the right appropriate time, meaning I will eat whatever. I was trained well as a kid and had some exposure to the right way of eating so I have an amazing good foundation. Its just finding the time AND the money because that's what really give you the chance to eat well.
I try to eat primal (modified paleo) but have zero resistance to pizza, pasta, chocolate cake, cola and gummy snakes. Burgers, fries and noodles are so damn convenient.
Maybe I should rather say that I eat a tonne of wheat, sugar and seed oil and then pretend twice a week that I'm Mark Sisson. :cry:
I'm trying to eat only anti-inflammatory foods because I'm sick. I'm tending towards vegetables as only source of carbs + meats. I'm also trying to avoid foods that digest as acidic, and avoid sugars (though I just accepted a sugary drink from someone and now my mind feels shitty). So far I've made several disgusting creations, but maybe necessity will improve my "cooking."
Most of the time I just eat simple healthy food. Oatmeal, meat, yogurt, etc. It's not hard to prepare and it does the job. To really feel my best I have to push myself hard while exercising (and I have to vary my exercise types). But I can't push myself unless I've been eating right. So they go hand in hand.
I kinda wanna try a high fiber diet just because I don't need much energy to get by, I'm highly efficient with calories so if I slow down the process of digestion with more fiber maybe the energy will last longer and I can go longer periods without meals
Damn I want to come and stay at your place!Quote:
Originally Posted by squark
Going keto + my girlfriend is making sure I eat healthy in general. I used to really love all kinds of processed stuff and junk food but now I just feel sick trying to eat them.
Anything edible but not trash or garbage
Everytime i try keto, I get sick and swear off meat for a good few weeks. I'm not sure how people do it. ironically, i did the Atkins diet years ago and ate literally nothing but meat and lettuce for an entire year and wasted away to practically nothing, but I don't have that willpower anymore. I much prefer to just eat whatever i want, be slightly plump, and exercise.
Milk, bread, cheese, spices, red meat and beer.
Vegetables are for women.
My diet varies a lot. I will eat almost everything, except the plants in the Allium family (which I am allergic to), invertebrates and coffee.
But I have eaten a cat before.
Today I would have had:
8 glasses of whole cream milk. I'm no soy boy.
My morning tea: 2 cups of green tea + panax ginseng extract + mucuna puriens extract.
A truly man-sized burger with double beef patties, a hash brown, a fried chicken breast, swiss cheese, tomatoes and lettuce.
My evening tea: 2 cups of hibiscus tea + chinese five spice + mucuna puriens extract.
Lots of stimulants.
I'm too busy talking to be eating.
I'm not much of a foodie, tbh, I'll eat what I crave and that's usually pho or some kind of salad. Sundried tomatoes, avocado, feta, olives mixed with lemon juice, a pinch of salt and olive oil.
My diet mostly consists of greens and sack yoghurt, lots of rice crackers, dips and antipasto.
This may all sound very healthy, but I have a history of eating popcorn for breakfast, big choc chip cookies, twiggy sticks, and my greatest weakness, Red Bull.
In general I prefer foods that are simple and healthy, that are quick and easy to prepare, and cheap to purchase locally i.e. whatever is on sale and in season.
My typical diet - fruits, vegetables, nuts, mushrooms, fish, poultry, and meat.
Rare, usually avoid - milk, cheeses, bread, pasta, pizza, bacon, anything deep fried and charred
Sweets - honey and lemon, 88% dark chocolate, dried fruit like persimmons
Drinks - plain water and black tea, coffee on some days, if it's my lunch for the day then I'll add some milk and sugar to it, if for energy then simply black, sometimes fresh squeezed or carton juice but don't like the fact that it comes with so much sugar
Junk food: was never into it but sometimes I get a craving, or a curiosity, and find that if I give myself windows to buy it then the cravings go away. I eat it, tastes great at first, then I feel groggy and sick, remember how crappy it was and forget about it for another month. My favorites have been Kettle vinegar chips, chicken wings with clunky blue cheese sauce, and of course burger'n'fries, the classic junk.
Recipes/cooking: Once in a while I'll brave the waters of Si and experiment with a new recipe or two. From these trials a few recipes have stuck around and became my go-to meals. These are simple recipes that require no more than 3-5 ingredients and 15-30 minutes preparation time. I prefer that food tastes as it is, raw or steamed over fried, and use very little salt, pepper, spices or sauces. Essentially bland is my type of flavorful, then I can feel the real taste of what I'm eating. Only exception has been garlic. I've started using it more often lately as it's supposedly healthy to eat it at least once a week.
Diet - Mix of intermittent fasting and something similar to paleo. I like this dieting method because there's no need to count calories and obsess over which foods I can and cannot eat. Seeing other people take up keto at that time, and how awkward and stringent it was, I decided that's not something I want to put myself through. I've seen feedback of people losing 50+ lbs on keto so I think it's kind of an emergency diet if someone needs to shed a lot of weight, but not something you could maintain in the long run. Almost everyone I know who has tried it didn't last longer than 6 months.
Later I've somehow switched to intermittent fasting even before hearing that this is a type of diet now. One spring, due to certain life events, I've practically stopped eating. I'd feel hungry, look at food, yet I could barely eat anything. Lost 15 lbs in those two months, which was the most rapid weight loss I've ever had. Then it was like hey, I actually feel better when I'm fasting and spending at least a few hours hungry. It saves a lot of time not having to concern about 3 meals a day, doesn't strictly limit one to some foods, and it's easy to keep to year around. So this is my current diet.
I dislike cooking.
When very young and had to feed myself on a budget I really only ate fruit, cereal, yoghurt, canned spaghetti and made mince to last a few days.
Oh yes and lots of toast with vegemite!
For the family I cooked because I had to and often made enough for left overs for the next day to avoid having to cook again. I guess we had a fair share of takeaways and eating out.
Now that it’s just husband and I we mostly prepare dinner together such as heating canned soup, cooking chicken in the pan to go with whatever is around like frozen veggies, microwave frozen meals, get takeaways and eat out.
We make coffee with toast or cereal and yoghurt for breakfast.
Often lunch is meeting at a cafe.
Typically I eat three meals a day and like to have my last meal in by five or six at night. Mainly, I just eat for fuel, energy, strength, fitness, health and, well, for the six-pack of course (can't have those extra rips by consuming garbage foods). My meals (plus sides) are mostly chicken, salmon, broccoli, turkey, steak, corn on the cob, and baked potatoes...a lot of apples, peaches, berries, and bananas for fruits in between meals.
fish, chicken, eggs, green leafy & cruciferous veggies, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, bananas, apples, berries of all kinds.
And lots of chili peppers and turmeric. Cinnamon for some fruits/veggies too. I find most food bland so a lot of spice usually helps with that.
I'm not a picky eater in terms of taste, I'm just focused on how it makes me feel. I could eat frozen burritos (tasty), wine with orange juice (because I did), pizza on pineapples (it's good), and even toasted fish eyeballs (haven't tried). But I don't because well. Where do I even find fish eyeballs? But the rest just make me feel bad.
For me too. I know I'd be better to eat some healthier food, but it's hard for me to resist such food.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickelslick
Whatever is bought for me, but also ''ew, i want something else''
I usually eat once a day. Evening.
Breakfast? ???
Lunch? ????
Dinner? ???
Supper? Yes, please.
Well, I think I have very low propensity to have diabetes. My blood sugar level should be pretty great. There are people who can not do that and they might have anger outbursts due to blood glucose level [and heightened tendency towards diabetes.].
My natural preference is to eat when I'm hungry. Honestly, I hate fixed scheduled meal times – but I'd eat at fixed times in favor for other people.