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I actually think you may be a Six, strrrng. I'm suggesting this because I believe it's relevant to many of the posts you've made either "defending" individuals' actions, or "attacking" others.
Where the fuck have I ever defended someone? I could care less about defending people, unless they are true friends. Leaving most people out to fend for themselves in conflict with others only benefits me. And yes, I "attack" others. So what if I make a few petty threats over the internet and speak derisively? That could just as easily be a 4 validating some internal ideal.
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What you have is this tactic whereby you'll change allegiances as soon as you realise that someone becomes a threat. Of course, when I was being "nice" to you, you were actually defending what I'd said. However, as soon as I do something which you perceive to be a threat, you throw an all out hissy fit ("suck a dick, Ezra"), often covered up using the "internet bad ass", "cool, calm and collected" way of speaking.
I never backed up anything you said. IN FACT, I criticized you (objectively, of course :D) in two threads where I thought you were being retarded and contradicting yourself in an ostentatious manner. And who said I perceived what you said as a threat? Couldn't it just as well be a 4 feeling that their identity is being challenged?
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In reality, you clearly have a major problem with my poor opinion of your understanding of socionics. Even when I mentioned that it doesn't refer to the way I feel about you as a person, you still had a problem with it.
I could care less what you think about my understanding of socionics. But, when you promote it publicly, I will probably respond. Especially if you are basing your judgments mainly on biases from my past actions.
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But what separates you from people like Winterpark and the others who insulted me? They've always insulted me, constantly. You, however, swap around, based on how much you feel someone will protect or defend you or your ideas. As soon as said person reacts negatively in some way towards you, you will happily back stab them in a counterphobic like manner. This is what it means to be a Six; hiding behind people one minute; rebelling against them the next.
I wasn't nice to you because I thought you were defending my ideas. Who says my social tactics are based around ideological loyalty? It could easily be based on how much praise I think I'm getting for my (inner) self, having my identity validated. But this is a good point, I will concede.
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I've always been of the opinion that SocioniX has an extremely poor understanding of the Six, and you're no different. You seem to think that a Six is counterphobic or phobic; that they can only be one or the other. You fail to understand that a Six actively and behaviourally swings between one state and the other. You change your opinions of people because you're afraid that the next party which you want in on might reject you.
Heh, I do what is necessary socially. It's not always about approval, just winning.
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In actual fact, you haven't changed your opinions at all, and you're tirelessly and desperately hanging on to an ideology, often created by one of your past "leaders". Essentially, what is "hidden" in terms of your doubt is due to your Five wing. To outsiders, you look calm. On the inside, you recognise that you must have some kind of ideology in order to survive. Someone like Ashton would provide this for you. Of course, coming to this community, you would have to "change" in some way, to sever previous ties with that group.
hmm
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Two of the most obvious aspects of your personality are your consistent game of oneupmanship played against those with whom you feel threatened by in some way (even if the threat is blatantly non-existent to others) and the "us and them" mentality that you have.
Yeah, I'm an aristocratic prick and like to engage in petty emotional manipulation games. Not only does it work well with IEI, but consider that a 4 aims to preserve their ideal self. Next point...
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As I said, you'll switch allegiances if the previous one becomes a threat, and you'll overreact if who you thought was an ally reacts negatively towards you. To whom the "us and them" attitude was directed was altered when you switched your allegiance from SocioniX to this forum.
When the fuck did I "switch allegiance" lol? I never had an allegiance to that forum; I just became good friends with Ashton. Aside from my association with him, there was no clan. Maybe I acted a certain way (see above point), but I think, if anything, I promote certain aspects of a group I am in because they correlate with my inner ideals (I wrote about this in my type thread) and help validate my "fantasy" self.
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You'll frequently use projection to cover up your insecurities. Consider my case; the cp6w7 LSE. Not only was the argument dreadfully poor, but I also rebutted every single claim you made, either showing how there was bad reasoning (or indeed no reasoning at all) with worse conclusions, or backing up my counterarguments with hard evidence.
That wasn't projection. My argument for that typing was based off of function tendencies which I *thought* I observed (hence how I don't argue it now) and behavioral patterns (I still think you could be a 6. You're reactive in a way that I don't think is common to 8's). So, there was never any projection onto you. And yes, my arguments were not thorough at all.
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(As a side point, I'm surprised that people were even considering Ti base for you. In fact, I'm surprised that I myself entertained the notion that you may be an SLE.) Your only response was something along the lines of "lol". You clearly seeing things that aren't there to see; and using me as your stress ball.
It wasn't about stress; it was about my understanding of the functions (both accurate and inaccurate).
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The sooner you face the facts and admit (even to yourself; not necessarily to the forum) that there are issues that you need to deal with alone, and without my or anyone else's forced participation. If of course you actually recognise these facts and yet continue to make false claims and fall into bad behaviours, then I suggest you quite the game immediately or simply leave the forum. But, for moral support, I don't think that's what you're doing. ;)
I find it ironic that you included this part, as I have been the main person pointing out behavioral issues I have observed in you recently in threads. Coincidence? I think not. So, maybe you're projecting your insecurities onto me? You have been a walking contradiction lately, it seems as though you're reaching out for public validation, and you seem to be desperately looking for some sort of stable grounding both internally and ideologically. But now you're presuming to know my motivations? el oh el, indeed.