Some Rappers

Being undeniably uber-white, there is paradoxically a part of my persona that is intractably attracted to the lyrical life of living large. Therefore I will now type some of my favorite rappers.

Eminem - IEI (4 so/sx or sx/so)
Atmosphere - Ni-LIE, maybe Ni-EIE
Bizarre - SEI or IEI
T.I. - EIE-Fe (probably 3w4 so/sp)
Lil' Wayne - IEI (probably 4w3 sx/so; thanks Nick)
Young Jeezy - SLE (probably 8w7 sp/sx)
Rick Ross - LSI-Se (probably 6w7 sx/sp)
Project Pat - SLE-Ti (8w9 sp/so)
Dr. Dre - SLE-Ti (8 sp/sx)
Snoop Dogg - SEI-Fe (9w8 sx/so)
Obie Trice - ESE-Fe (2w3 sp/so) (not too sure on this one but it seems to work)

Could also be sp influence and the fact that he is Ti subtype and not Se (like, perhaps, Jeezy).

I thought dre was Se-ISTj 5w6 sp/sx and obie trice was Ni-INFp 4w5 sp/sx...but maybe i just want the smart ones to be beta

Hmmm...I dunno, I see Dre as sort of Se by nature but having a strong focus on Ti (remember he was "the man" at first, being the "star" as a rapper, but eventually found his real niche and preferred role being "behind the scenes" as a producer). I guess Se-LSI could work, but he seems like an 8 to me.

As for Obie Trice as IEI, I could see it. EIE isn't altogether out of the picture, either; in fact I could see him as more 3w2 than any kind of 4 personally. Maybe his laid-back "smoothness" is more sp related than Socionics.

Added Snoopaloop (lol Will Ferrel); knew I was forgetting someone. I personally think he is the absolute epitome of a 9w8 sx/so. Semi-Dual with Dre makes sense, too: they worked well together and were successful, but it wasn't quite "all there" yet. Dre only really took off in terms of collaboration when Eminem came onto the scene. I mean, NWA was big, and Snoop will always be the man (Still D.R.E was an undeniably dope collaboration effort), but Eminem produced by Dre = holyshitaasdffsadfjnewrhqp

I had a gay male ESTp friend once (yes, gay men can be ESTps grr) that was crazy about 'em so I think you're onto something there. I mean he totally was fascinated by him. I know a lot of white suburban boys were crazy about him too, but he adored the guy.

Eminem LSE
Atmosphere SEI
T.I. LSE
Young Jeezy SLE
Dr. Dre ILI(i'm iffy about it) - i think he's definitely serious dichotomy
Tupac IEI
Lupe Fiasco SEI
Nas IEI
Jay-z ILE
50 cent SLE
Snoop SEE

T.I. is Fe-EIE to the core... he's one of a few rappers who can actually pull off an understated alpha male role without sacrificing flair or authenticity (3w4 sp/sx most likely).

unsure on jay-z, I had been considering IEE on and off. he has a similar congested bratty feel as p diddy, a pretty obvious IEE 3.

and lol 50 cent is SEI-Si 9w8 sp/so... pretty much aftermath's token alpha.

Yeah agreed on TI, thought he was LSI until I saw a documentary. Fe sub seems right but I was thinking so/sp; I think it would explain the temperance of the Alpha Male role. Sp/sx would probably be prone to unwitting exacerbation; I think sx is the guilty party, really. I mean look at sx 3s; Jim Morrison, Madonna, Gwen Stefani, Shady...they all kind of go too big and then crash, probably because of the lack of fulfillment. TI has been steady, filling his role but not exceeding or overreaching it, to a fault, even.

I had wondered if 50 might be an sp/so 3 but 9w8 does work better.

Remember this? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwCWvn60L3w&ob=av2e

I'd type Obie as :Se:-SLE but ESE/ SEE could make sense.

lmao


yeah I think you're right about TI... so/sx would make no sense, he might he even be 3w2, considering the obvious jadedness that accompanies any dealer gone rapper. idk he's just believable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8z_5ZtPzWI&ob=av2e

Yeah I would consider w2...actually might make more sense if he was sp/so though, hes not quite dissolved enough for 3w2 so primary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRvfR0MIcm0

How about Warren G?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX47qqp0WxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlvt0Vzocw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NUZ4mXPTFE

not sure, could just be a low key LSI, definitely reminds me of dre in ways.

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Originally Posted by Gilly

Yeah I would consider w2...actually might make more sense if he was sp/so though, hes not quite dissolved enough for 3w2 so primary.

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king cobra style yeah

Yeah

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Originally Posted by strrrng

not sure, could just be a low key LSI, definitely reminds me of dre in ways.

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I hate Dre, and they are almost nothing alike.

Warren G is :Si:/:Ne:.

how could you hate dre lol

Love this track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R0dtYhQCkg

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how could you hate dre lol

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They are friends and have a long history together and everything, but as a producer (and image-wise) I much prefer Warren G's style.

I can understand finding Dre's hyper-materialistic world-scale-actions, like taking advantage of his cultural status to overprice mediocre products, rather distasteful. I will say that he sets a good example culturally for blacks making it legit, although in this day and age "legit" is questionable...

I guess it makes sense that his mechanized elitism would annoy you. that's always a tipping point with people like him and em, where any self-referential action just rusts the sheen... at the end of the day, I can appreciate more homey, down-to-earth types for the reassurance they bring to something as overblown as the rap game, but ultimately it is about the icing lol.

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I guess it makes sense that his mechanized elitism would annoy you. that's always a tipping point with people like him and em, where any self-referential action just rusts the sheen... at the end of the day, I can appreciate more homey, down-to-earth types for the reassurance they bring to something as overblown as the rap game, but ultimately it is about the icing lol.

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I dunno, you think Nas ever would've owned Chinese sweatshops?

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Originally Posted by Gilly

I dunno, you think Nas ever would've owned Chinese sweatshops?

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no, but then again, dre probably washes his own car.

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no, but then again, dre probably washes his own car.

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lol yeah...live in the tower, maintain the premises, ring bell when needed...admirable, in a way.

yeah.. though at the end of the day, a serpent's bell boy always holds sway.

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yeah.. though at the end of the day, a serpent's bell boy always holds sway.

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You think em is the real guiding force?

I suppose it remains to be seen.

So awesome, yet so humble. I've always liked this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o0dIH6L8DQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRh_zf5y-m4

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Originally Posted by Gilly

I can understand finding Dre's hyper-materialistic world-scale-actions, like taking advantage of his cultural status to overprice mediocre products, rather distasteful. I will say that he sets a good example culturally for blacks making it legit, although in this day and age "legit" is questionable...

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You can be materialistic and not cold and stuck-up like Dre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxRcGp0yWZc

Gilly and Strrrng are so white lol.

I keep thinking this thread is "some rapers"

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Originally Posted by Gilly

Being undeniably uber-white, there is paradoxically a part of my persona that is intractably attracted to the lyrical life of living large. Therefore I will now type some of my favorite rappers.

Eminem - IEI (4 so/sx or sx/so)
Atmosphere - Ni-LIE, maybe Ni-EIE
Bizarre - SEI or IEI
T.I. - EIE-Fe (probably 3w4 so/sp)
Lil' Wayne - IEI (probably 4w3 sx/so; thanks Nick)
Young Jeezy - SLE (probably 8w7 sp/sx)
Rick Ross - LSI-Se (probably 6w7 sx/sp)
Project Pat - SLE-Ti (8w9 sp/so)
Dr. Dre - SLE-Ti (8 sp/sx)
Snoop Dogg - SEI-Fe (9w8 sx/so)
Obie Trice - ESE-Fe (2w3 sp/so) (not too sure on this one but it seems to work)

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Im now starting to feel like no one knows HOW IEI infps are :/ (Saddens me) eminem's nothing like IEI( INFP ).. Hes very rigid and T type like .. he's anyone but IEI

Maritsa's dummy account just surfaced here.

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Maritsa's dummy account just surfaced here.

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there's no reason to be a dick.

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Originally Posted by Radio

there's no reason to be a dick.

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there's a reason not to be a dick?

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there's a reason not to be a dick?

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yeah like when people are actually saying something constructive and relatable based on their personal experience and you try to invalidate it by making fun because it doesnt agree with your favourite interpretation of socionics.

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yeah like when people are actually saying something constructive and relatable based on their personal experience and you try to invalidate it by making fun because it doesnt agree with your favourite interpretation of socionics.

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yeah i didn't think so

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yeah i didn't think so

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oh haha that is really clever and funny, wow you sir have outwitted me.

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Im now starting to feel like no one knows HOW IEI infps are :/ (Saddens me) eminem's nothing like IEI( INFP ).. Hes very rigid and T type like .. he's anyone but IEI

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He's not rigid, he's anxious and hyper-alert because he grew up in the ghetto of Detroit and lives a ridiculously high-profile lifestyle.

Eminem - Te ego. :D

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oh haha that is really clever and funny

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No, it's the truth. How I see it, anyways.

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there's no reason to be a dick.

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Yeah Park is kinda being an ass, but I am hugely suspicious of that account being a smurf also. No idea who's though.

IEI doesn't make much sense for Eminem, he has like no :Fe:. I think SLI makes the most sense for him imo.

2-Pac IEI
50 cent SLE
Snoop Dog IEE
Ice Cube ESE

Eminem - INTJ

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Originally Posted by Gilly

He's not rigid, he's anxious and hyper-alert because he grew up in the ghetto of Detroit and lives a ridiculously high-profile lifestyle.

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May be .. just mayyy be u r right .. but Eminem being IEI dont make much sense .. he uses T or N all the tym ..
and hes comfortable with it ... u shud realy watch his interviews

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May be .. just mayyy be u r right .. but Eminem being IEI dont make much sense .. he uses T or N all the tym ..
and hes comfortable with it ... u shud realy watch his interviews

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I've watched just about every interview he's ever done that's on youtube.

Keeping in line with my keep-it-simple, just stereotype philosophy, IEIs can't be anything except tortured burnouts (Cobain) or effiminate poets (Jeff Buckley). Or maybe both (Rimbaud). None could be Marshall Mathers.

drug ballad

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drug ballad

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Lol yeah

Also, someone hasn't heard a single track off Relapse...or really paid attention to the first two studio albums...or heard any of his pre-dre stuff...

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I mean I guess I can't take ILI-Ni off the table completely, but he seems Fe valuing to me and he is image triad for sure, probably E3, which..
ILI...no.

Music threads need music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpayJn3Ch5M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ThOKdE4xdc

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I've watched just about every interview he's ever done that's on youtube.

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I am an INFP .. hes nothing like me or any version of me .. Hex not infp dats for sure .. what do u think ?? still infp ??

Hes wayyy more T of Fi to be an INFP ..

@ Gilly .. Well atleast u know hes not an INFP :)

OMG SRSLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDMgXHJClE&feature=related

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Originally Posted by 1981slater

2-Pac IEI
50 cent SLE
Snoop Dog IEE
Ice Cube ESE

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I agree with Pac definitely, 50 - SEI, Snoop - SEI, Cube - ESI? SEI? SLI(however cube strikes me as ethical > logical with his subject matter) IEE? I'm going with IEE for him right now, just don't see ESE with him at all though. I think delta irrational is the best bet as somebody else said on the ice cube thread.

Nas - IEI 6w5 so/sx
Eminem - ESI 6w5 sp/sx
Jay Rock - SEI 6w7 or 9w8 so/sp
Kendrick Lamar - no idea, possibly IEI-Ni 9w1 or 1w2 so/sp?
J Cole - SEI-Si 1w2 so/sx
DMX - EII? EIE? 4w3 sx/sp
Kanye - EIE-Ni 4w3 sx/sp
Pusha T- SEE-Se 8w9 sp/sx, (9 wing is really heavy on him so typing can seem really off at face value)
Dre - ILE?ILI? 8w9 sp/sx
Ras Kass - IEI 4w3 sp/sx
Rakim - SLI? thinking 8w9 so/sp or 9w8, this one is rough though
Kid Cudi - IEE 9w8 sp/sx
G Rap - IEE 6w7 or 9w1 sp/sx , again a rough typing
Travis Scott - ESI
XXXTentacion - IEI-Fe 4w3 sx/sp
Andre 3000 - SEI-Fe 7w8 or 4w3 sx/so
Prodigy - SEI
Vince Staples - ILE
Raekwon - SEI or ESE 2w3
Ghostface Killah - can't tell, LII?
Lil Yachty - SEI 9w8

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Nas - IEI 6w5 so/sx
Eminem - ESI 6w5 sp/sx
Jay Rock - SEI 6w7 or 9w8 so/sp
Kendrick Lamar - no idea, possibly IEI-Ni 9w1 or 1w2 so/sp?
J Cole - SEI-Si 1w2 so/sx
DMX - EII? EIE? 4w3 sx/sp
Kanye - EIE-Ni 4w3 sx/sp
Pusha T- SEE-Se 8w9 sp/sx, (9 wing is really heavy on him so typing can seem really off at face value)
Dre - ILE?ILI? 8w9 sp/sx
Ras Kass - IEI 4w3 sp/sx
Rakim - SLI? thinking 8w9 so/sp or 9w8, this one is rough though
Kid Cudi - IEE 9w8 sp/sx
G Rap - IEE 6w7 or 9w1 sp/sx , again a rough typing
Travis Scott - ESI
XXXTentacion - IEI-Fe 4w3 sx/sp
Andre 3000 - SEI-Fe 7w8 or 4w3 sx/so
Prodigy - SEI
Vince Staples - ILE
Raekwon - SEI or ESE 2w3
Ghostface Killah - can't tell, LII?
Lil Yachty - SEI 9w8

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What would you say of:
Ski Mask: XLE?
Lil Peep: EII
Lil Xan: ESI
A$AP Rocky: SLE

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Originally Posted by NewAge

What would you say of:
Ski Mask: XLE?
Lil Peep: EII
Lil Xan: ESI
A$AP Rocky: SLE

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Not familiar with Ski, Peep or Xan
I'd guess Ski- LSI , Peep - EIE maybe too hard to tell, Xan - ESI most likely yeah

Rocky strikes me as SEI-Si 4w3

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDJ391

Not familiar with Ski, Peep or Xan
I'd guess Ski- LSI , Peep - EIE maybe too hard to tell, Xan - ESI most likely yeah

Rocky strikes me as SEI-Si 4w3

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Interesting perspective. I've never thought of Peep as an extrovert, but I will admit that the drugs probably make it really hard to discern whether he is an Extrovert or Introvert. The only things that are kinda clear are that he's a feeler and likely intuitive

Ski as LSI actually works fairly well.

Actually think Vince Staples is LIE-Ni