estp... i thought it was just about sex... what's with all this integrity and so on being brought into it ...
maybe it's time to stop stalking him...
estp... i thought it was just about sex... what's with all this integrity and so on being brought into it ...
maybe it's time to stop stalking him...
lol oh gosh, he became a fan of "chesty girls" too...lol, if there is one thing in life i dont do, is take well to guys who either have porn collections, or hang around on sites or are "fans" of that sorta thing...or at least dont fuckin advretize it in such a public forum...maybe it just makes me insecure but im pretty fucking anti-that sorta thing...
needless to say...it could be his duche bag friends inviting him to it, none the less tho...i think im'a give up on that shit..cuz i no like...
and ur right...i gotta stop creeping him like that (he's so smokin' tho)
he may not even be istj....just sayin
it's hard to type him
Maybe you should try dressing as a choir boy, and try and attract a catholic priest. I'm sure he'd be good with keeping secrets. Just something between the two of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTP
Are you a feminist?Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTP
Just wait for your angelic IEI male. He's out there. He is.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezra
+1 million three hundred and five!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTP
LMAO :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by mercutio
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P.S. I think I'm gonna give up on my duals and find me an IEI. Unless I can clone ESTP into a dude.
I mean fuck, they KNOW they're being self-destructive and that it's unhealthy, yet refuse to do anything about it! Would rather live in pain, in pure hell than open up to someone. :( :( Makes me so sad and angry.
Sorry for the unrelated rant. I guess I'm saying I can relate to your feeling of frustration.
Good luck finding an LSI who isn't a porn addict. Ugh. I always feel like such an object in their presence.
I know an ISTj who is a little bit gay... You know, not totally gay... He's obsessed with feet... Wear sandals around him and it's like watching a lion eye a gazelle.Quote:
Originally Posted by jessica129
All this is to say, it's probably better that some ISTjs aren't spur of the moment.
He's good-looking... 8.5/10. So ESTP, if you're in the northeast, I'm sure he'd be happy to go to Payless with you.
lmao...not a feminist...im not a stranger to porn..but i dont publicly join groups that promote it....and what not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezra
I just have a deep rooted hatred for men who do. I will never date a guy who has a porn collection. On a computer it wouldnt bother me so much...but if he actually has stacks of magazines and dvd's ....then i would run faster than anything. There's something different about the two. On a comp anyone can download and it's whatever...ya know, pretty private. However, people who actually cough up serious dough to watch have possesion of ect. that crap...NO thanks.
I dunno what it is...I'm not all anti-porn, i just hate guys who collect them. I couldnt tell you where these feelings stem from...but it is what it is.
Ugh...did merc show u his pic?Quote:
Originally Posted by JuJu
Fair play.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTP
I have a similarly negative attitude towards those people - they're just losers.
LMAO....okay..so I had to!
So...another buddy of mine joined the "milfs" group from my facebook friends...and yes totally disgusted, i decided to make my "is" line this "I dont know what's worse, guys who join groups like "MILFs" or the chicks that subject themselves to that sort of thing...nasty"
and low and behold...ISTjs guy...is no longer a fan of these two groups (MIFLs and big chested girls) aahahahahahaha
Just had to say it! It wasn't even like full 3 hrs since I made that my fb status....and since he took himself off.
Just sayin'
estp... don't you hate people who just change their opinions to match yours ..
ahhaha sure..why not...Quote:
Originally Posted by mercutio
Okay so my impression of ISTjs suck as of now, I have a professor at school who I typed as one, kind of a dick, although I do respect him and feel that his 'rules' are just. It just doesnt vibe with my lifestyle right now, although a swift kick in the ass might be just what I need. He already bitched at me, albeit only slightly.
I think I may know a girl who is one, but I really cant tell. If she is, she doesnt fit my conception of what an ISTj is. Im pretty certain shes Se ego, shes fun and responds to my Fe and playful behavior very well. Shes introverted and a sensor for sure, pretty certain shes a T type too. I havent really been in a logical debate with her; however she does appear to value Ti; she can hold her own logically, but its not manifesting all douchey like I thought it would. Its been mostly joking around with us, having fun. She does what she wants, but its not in a very overt in your face way. In fact shes laid back about alot of things, but I do get the sense that theirs a strong persona under her calm demeanor. I had her as ISTp originally, however after interacting with another person I thought was ISTp I noticed discrepencies.
I thought ISTjs were also passive aggressive, thats been my experience with them anyway, but this girl doesnt really get offended. This in the sense that she doesnt appear to bear a grudge and if an off comment is made, or persisted in her presence towards her, she will address it and may get visibly upset but wont harbor bad feelings the next day. She also doesnt talk shit about people, and seems to have a pretty damn optimistic outlook on life. She doesnt know what she wants to do career-wise yet, her attitude is 'say what you want, your opinion is your opinion, Im not affected by it' - this girl really doesnt seem to care. She is also close friends with another beta which never made sense to me until now.
anyway I remember other posters(scarlett?) talking about the fun side of ISTjs that I dont really see addressed here. All I hear of are the rigid assholes who never compromise. If that is closer to what my actual dual is like, I'll pass. however, if this girl does sound like ISTj, please let me know how and why, I made this thread in hopes of getting a better understanding of ISTjs, PARTICULARLY THE WOMEN, and being able to spot them out.
I cant do that if I dont know what their like, or if I'm being riddled with misconceptions.
you are describing me:eek:
however,the 'say what you want, your opinion is your opinion, Im not affected by it' attitude makes me look emotionally distant and it is hard to make real friends.
This stereotype isn't 100% false, but it's false enough that it shouldn't be 'the ISTj stereotype...'Quote:
Originally Posted by thePirate
From what I've experienced, ISTjs are assholes in a comparable way to ENFjs--that is, we're stubborn kinds of people, generally speaking... Sometimes we make up our minds, and that's it (until someone says something that makes more sense, and then we revise our opinions or beliefs, whatever the case may be...)
Stubborn? Yes. Rigid? No.
You're right. They often do come across as laid-back, or quiet, (particularly the Ti subtype... The Se subtype is more girly.)
I can't tell from what you wrote whether the girl is ISTj... There's too many layers of your comparisons (i.e. vs. ISTps) for me to tell.
Off-hand, here are some names of ISTj women, (celebrities,) so that you can see what they're like... Good, bad, and ugly
Kristen Stewart
Lisa Marie Presley
Catherine Zeta Jones
Brooke Shields
Yoko Ono
Joan Jett
Jodie Foster
Nancy Reagan
Hilary Clinton
Tatum O'Neal
Sheryl Crow
Zooey Deschanel.
Personally what I like about LSI females is that they (at least the ones I find attractive) tend to have this very penetratingly crystalline feel, like they are encased in ice that seems so solid, but can actually be melted by a quick blast. Some of them, usually the insecure ones, try to be sort of overly contained and resist being "punctured," or shy away when they feel like they are starting to melt because they feel vulnerable, but even that is kind of attractive; some of them will lash out and pretend like they don't understand what you are trying to do, which is simultaneously endearingly vulnerable and grounds for a good scrap; usually if you laugh it off, which is sort of my natural reaction, they can tell that you see through them. The Se subs don't like to be sort of tossed around or played with emotionally like the Ti subs, who are much more receptive, but basically you can tell by the fact that they pay attention to you for more than 30 seconds and don't ignore you or give you a distinctly dismissive "message" that they find you appealing in some way.
The healthy ones are very down to earth; some of them, especially the Se subs, have a very grounded feel, like they are totally unshakeable, in an even casual manner. They like to be the rock, to be reliable, but sometimes they don't notice when they themselves need to be rescued because they operate under the assumption that they should be the one holding things down; when that happens you basically need to look them in the eye and tell them to chill the fuck out for a second, and if they really are feeling it, they will cool off and let you take over; if not, they will push on through like they didn't even hear you, and you can basically only watch in admiration :)
She has to be LSI. I like her too much for her to be any other type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
I like her music too; she's so cute :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkzRy...?v=FkzRyHa9a6g
Victoria Beckham is pretty hot.
Hmm. I have to say, I just did that recently. Scared the guy away though. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
See, an EIE would probably be able to tell you were just being fussy/insecure, laugh it off and either call you out (if it pissed them off) or change the subject casually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinel
lol, I was thoroughly repulsed at first, but when I saw the battle axes flying everywhere and her alternating between being dressed for a wedding and a funeral, I decided it was acceptable :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Morcheeba
Really? I didn't find it to be repulsive at all. I like how she doesn't really care about how she comes across; she doesn't seem to have an inflated ego. She's silly and not pretentious; and seems like she would be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
Yeah, Russell Brand is Fe-EIE... Good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfall
Yeah, I agree that her lack of pretension is one of her most attractive qualities, but I found the overt silliness a bit of a turn off until I realized it was half-mocking; I sort of assumed it should be all along, but the general tone/demeanor of the video was too...floozy for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morcheeba
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Originally Posted by Starfall
I could accept that. The "Hot n Cold" video could have been a sort of frustration with IEIs as activity partners.
Pissed off Zooey Deschanel :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3CehyfUko
I always found this song, like, disturbingly catchy and kind of endearing, despite its clichedness and overt girl-power mentality (which is usually something that pisses me off). I love when they're in the circle of girls and she's getting all up in his face, then sends him this totally histrionic video message...cracks me the fuck up, and is oddly appealing :lol:
whoa
:popcorn: AHH! That is so me...:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by thePirate
I'm switching to EIE for Zooey.
Actually that's Katie Perry. At this point I think they're both probably LSI.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverchris9
darn it. I hate her (music at least). But that picture is ridiculous. Hmmm... that's more of a "switch to EIE for long enough to have a torrid love affair for several months and then break it off because oops I discovered we're really not compatible after all" situation then. I'd buy LSI for her, knowing almost nothing about her, since she does look like Zooey "morphologically" (although now that I know it's not her, I get that it's not her, if that makes any sense), and she seems beta.
No way, LSIs (and Fe-valuing types in general) are anything but passive-aggressive. They will definitely let you know what they think, especially once they get to know you.Quote:
Originally Posted by thePirate
I'm telling you, I know things...Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfall
Zooey Deschanel is my exact clone. She's either ILE or IEE, or I'm some other type.
great post, could you explain more about the bolded? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly