she reminds me of astralsilky the more she posts. idk, i think ESFj is a possibility now and actually agree w/ phaedrus.
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she reminds me of astralsilky the more she posts. idk, i think ESFj is a possibility now and actually agree w/ phaedrus.
she's not Si/Ne, wtf...
ENFj
note: people "reminding" you of other people is a highly unreliable typing method.
I disagree, it depends on the memory of the person. Since my memory is awesome, then it's an incredibly reliable typing method for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
there is so much i'm good at. it's hard to tell which "came first." i'm going to find a picture of myself in my early 20s, the same age as most around here and it'll give a different picture than what i'm like now. it's very different actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
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That stereotype is so fun. I want to keep it. Darth Betas cloud your vision, they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dolphin
I am not so sure you are alpha btw. You sith infiltrator.
dbmamma - Socionics is fun. Don't let annoying posters put you off with their negaitvity. Even if you have not decided on your type yet, I think you are picking it up quickly. For what it is worth, some types (ILI) hardly ever decide their type. Ni accepting and all.
the dark side is within me as with everyone. all it is is fear. we all have it on some level. i come in peace and love to spread joy throughout the land. i have seen the truth and it is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy
no one is annoying me. i am yoda. be still and know
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yes, socionics IS FUN! I'm having a blast!!
Your avatar, is this the picture of when you were younger for us to VI?
sorry cyclops, no. it's my oldest daughter last year on halloween. i just thought it was cute because she was a cheerleader and put on her brother's mask, the opposite of energies within it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
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i'm working on some pics to put up right now.
here are different pics of me younger...and a couple with a younger hubby...after looking at them i'm getting a better understanding of how i developed within my type. and i'll explain as i go.
this first one is when i was 9, geeky, non feminine tomboy
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ama/kjage9.jpg
age 16, finally look like a girl, but boys don't like me because i come off too "strong"
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01152.jpg
hubby, age 18, SUPER NI MAN, all the way
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...DSC01154-1.jpg
hubby, age 24, SUPER NI MAN, all the way
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01153.jpg
when we met, he was a very dry, sarcastic asshole. so, why would i fall head over heels? because i felt his soul and i "knew." he appreciated someone that accepted him completely as he was, unconditionally.
right after we met, age 21 and 30, you can see he has softened but can see the Ni in his eyes, i am a bit goofier than usual, with him
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01151.jpg
another right after we met and i am finally comfortable enuf with someone to be completely goofy
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01147.jpg
me messing around with making myself up, i was a makeup artist when we met, beginning to have a spacier look about me
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01144.jpg
married 2 years, he has softened more and i am beginning to "space out" more
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01149.jpg
me after 3-4 years of marriage, getting a "hautier" look to me
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01145.jpg
age 25, playing with a new do and hair color combo, which i have tended to do over the years, not so much after kids because it scares babies when you're all of a sudden "different" than the mommy they knew
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSC01141.jpg
here is a more recent pic of hubby and you can see he is so much softer and happier than those first pics before we met.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/Dscf0031.jpg
what i see in this is Se and Ni duels who have been together for 17 years and complete each other. :) he is naturally the more inert being, i get him off his ass. i am hyper, all over the place, dancing, forceful sex drive and he calms me down. and i "see" the Ni side of life through him without him realizing it. he can't help but get up and do a few things because i almost never sit still.
i don't value Fe, it's my dom Se mixed with either an overcompensating PolR Fi or Fi itself that likes to move it....move it! and my hubby is a paranoid, hopeless romantic without me. :) i enjoy telling him what actions to take to alleviate the paranoia in him. we are both completely in love and very clingy with each other.
ok, i'm sure someone, anyone, will rip it apart. whatever. :) have fun. :)
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He looks extremely ILI, especially in this one.
I'm not a believer in VI. But I will say that it is UNCANNY how much like an ESFp friend of mine you look like. She even wore her hair the same way you did back in the day. I'm glad you knew your husband back then because she wasn't with anyone and that is the only thing that makes me sure you aren't her.
You know I'm not even going to try to type you or him based on these because I don't know what I'm talking about. hehe. Nice pics though. I can see how you two "complete" each other. It must be wonderful to have a marriage like that! Anyway, which of the pictures reminds you of me?
yes, that's what i thought when i found this one. god, he is so different now. :) and yet, of course, the same. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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interesting, cool....i have a couple of ENFp friends too. :) we are into many of the same things. i just happen to take more action than they do and they are more allowing in other ways. i knew i had a lot in common with Delta stuff, but I knew that I was just more, more, more something about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
i have ENFp friends who are THE BEST visualizors but they rarely take decisive action on their dreams. it makes sense now.
ESFp is very probable to me now. :)
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it's the second one.Quote:
Originally Posted by qbsirena06
it must be the Ni/Se thing because over the years, i've had close friends who were like you. :) and i admired , what i thought was, courage in expressing themselves without caring what other people thought. i've tried doing that over the years, but that Fi keeps "getting in the way." :) well, i can embrace it for what it is now and stop trying to be Fe. :)
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Yeah, I can see it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
it still could be SLE or EIE and IEI. he's actually a big softie and i'm the badass irl. i am the disciplinarian and he is the pushover. he is "nicer" to people, albeit, he does stick his foot in his mouth a lot and doesn't understand when it's not appropriate to say certain things. heck, sometimes i don't either.... lol
we are "family values" kind of people, but not to the extreme as many. more about our own family.
i believe in self expression but not at the expense of disrespecting others.
so many contradicting things, but it's what makes our lives so cool and fun!
keepin on, keepin on
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I don't see it as contradiction. I see it as balance.
much of our balance could even be that i'm IEI and he's ILI. i'm more liberal than him on things like creativity, self expression, spirituality and he's more conservative than me on things like business, following social "niceties", "war on terrorism."Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
i'm more of the disciplinarian because i'm beta and he's the more practical one because he's gamma. oh, this is starting to click! could be, could be....
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:lol:
At this point it may be a good idea for you to stop trying to figure it out and just hang out and interact with people here.
Do you know your type in Oldham's system?
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=220662&postcount=1
Here's a test. Serious isn't on it though, so answer these questions in addition to the ones on the test.
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Originally Posted by Kioshi
in theory, makes sense. but, know myself in that way well enuf, won't happen til i get it. :) it's ok, no worries :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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This would suggest that you're not IP. (Not that you couldn't be.)Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
how's that for ambiguity?! haahaa! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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In my observation, IP types tend not to be as "OMG I NEED TO FIGURE OUT MY TYPE RIGHT NOW!" as the rest of us. :lol:
Of course, there are always exceptions.
btw, in response to your sig...
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...d.php?p=183507
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Originally Posted by Joy
here's one thing i've figured out thus far in my life....
everything is a mirror of your soul, everything inside of you and outside of you. if all you see when you look into that mirror is hate, judgment, evil, whatever, then that is what you will feel in your own soul. but if you look into the mirror and see the beauty, joy, goodness in everything, everyone, your soul will smile back in love. :)
as you do that, you are free. free to go after your dreams because it's all a mirror, a mirage, anyway. so then you can take action without fear. and if you take action IN the fear, the mirror will reflect that back to you too.
neither way is right or wrong, they just are. it's then our choice which way to do it. it's our choice in what we see in the mirror of our souls. and it's all just as it is meant to be, no matter what it is.
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That's sort of how I see things, though I wouldn't put it in those terms. I more think of life as a physical manifestation of who a person is (and you are what you think about).
yes, i just feel it more poetically. :) if i said the way you did, it sounds so boring. liven it up! have some fun with it! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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Well, at least we know for sure, from posts of yours like this one, that you are definitely not a logical type. So one of the F types it must be, thats for certain. And the content of your beliefs also strongly suggest one of the NF types as much more likely than any of the S types.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
the only problem with coming to that conclusion is that irl i am physically very strong, very forceful, very direct, get to the point already, sexual, very sexual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
consider the fact that online it is easier for a person to talk about their valued functions that they don't normally talk about irl. all of my language throughout my day is Se. i have watching and observing it. almost everything i say is Se. and then a combo of Ti and Fi.
phaedrus,
i actually think a lot like you. it's just that over the years, people have found me so fucking annoying that i started going over the top in saying the truths i know in a more poetic way so my knowingness of stuff would reach more people. i would prefer to be as blunt and direct as you but just as you have because you are blunt and direct, it allienates people. it then becomes very depressing to know so many things and have no one really hear you.
i'm not saying i'm any type yet. i'm very good in many functions and i like it that way. i've grown into a person who can do many things well. i know you don't think i'm logical but irl i can be the least "ethical" kind of woman in my circles and it kinda sucks. i was never very good at "not hurting other people's feelings" kinda thing. tell the truth and i tell the truth. if you can't handle it, that's your problem. my ideal. but, it is not so......so, i "act" more ethical......
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LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
This is something you'll hear more from Gammas than people from any other quadra.Quote:
i was never very good at "not hurting other people's feelings" kinda thing. tell the truth and i tell the truth. if you can't handle it, that's your problem. my ideal.
That rules out the ESFj as a possible type for you, but I guess we already knew that, because there has never been anyting but perhaps V.I. to suggest that type for you. And ESFps are usually much more "sane" in their world outlooks, much more realistic, than you are. Your look on V.I. is also not a good argument for ESFp. Maybe that type is not altogether ruled out based on that, but at least your body type suggests that ESFp is not the most likely type.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
I don't really know how to interpret that in a socionic perspective. It is really hard to tell what information about you to trust and what to dismiss as misleading. Not everything you say about yourself can be a correct description of what you really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
It doesn't really matter how other people perceive you in real life, because unless you are totally faking your natural way of writing here, your writing style is a proof in itself that you are an ethical type. Logical types don't express themselves the way you do, unless they are actors or are imitating another writer.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
I agree with Phaedrus diagnosis.
I feel like we're playing that "one of these things is not like the others" game from sesame street.
The pieces don't all fit. No matter what type we consider, something's off. This means that one or more of Kelly Jo's traits is not natural and has been adopted somewhere along the way.
Based on what she's said, her "fluffiness" and the poetic way she says stuff is most likely the extra piece in the puzzle that doesn't fit. If we take that out, what do we have left? And what was she like before she adopted that style?
It's difficult to pinpoint someone's type when you can't take their manner of communication into account, so we're at a disadvantage in determining her type.
Given the circumstances, I maintain that we just wait and see how her intertype relations play out.
HAAAAHAAAA! as if i have a disease! so funny!Quote:
Originally Posted by FDG
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from your perspective, i can see how you'd see it that way. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus
faking anything is the antithesis of what i am about. everything, every way i write is who i am in that moment. i can't change that. so, whatever type does that naturally, there you go. it probably is ethical, i agree. but everything i say about myself is a correct description of what i really am. that's why i have been trying to figure this out for more than a year now. i am all of the ways i write here. my sis wants me to ditch this whole thing. she doesn't want it to ruin how cool and special i am because i am so dynamic in being so versatile.
it is also VERY EASY for me to express myself in all of my ways and beings ONLINE. irl i have been pretty "afraid" of people my whole life. i have worked out and got my body "strong" to "protect" myself. i have been one of the most timid and self conscious people you have ever met. but online, FREEDOM. you can't see me and i can't see you and so, i can let go and be free to express myself in all the ways that feel right right then. words are powerful and i can express them easier when i type. i've gotten better over the years with in person, have even been able to public speak and teach workshops, but typing....my expression comes full blown. i do also enjoy dancing, a lot. but ONLY in the privacy of my home and then i go crazy all over the place. i have always known Spirit, the spiritual realm and been happy and comfortable there. the physical world is what has been scary for me. over the years, i learned many ways to deal with that scary feeling. learning ways to take what i knew in the spiritualness of everything and bring it into the physical world so that they could merge and both be happy places for me. i have learned to do it pretty well and so, i am happy in both worlds. i still get a little wacky and anxious when i don't stay in tune with my inner knowings. but when i do, i am the most dynamic of individuals you'll ever meet. :) because then i can come out the cocoon i've made for myself in my home and emerge the Butterfly, the colorful, fun, playful, take action and very allowing of unfolding Butterfly touching and playing with Souls as the inspiration strikes me. it's just easier online...
oh, that blunt, direct "get real" me is when i have not stayed tuned in. so, it is a part of me at certain times...and it has been lately without my hubby's influence around me. i get scared inside and start getting tyranical and bitchy. i don't like it and so, i remember, i remember who i am and then it all calms down. "take a deep breath" my hubby just said to me on the phone and in an instant, i knew. i knew it was all going to be ok.
just talked with him again and he asked me when we are coming over and i say "we'll see." i can never say a time for anything, i have to let it unfold and see what tells me what to do when. and part of my inner scared feeling makes me try to control the outer world so that i can be free within it to let things unfold.
yowsa, that was a mouthful. :)
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you weren't kidding when you said you used to be me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
yes, your whole energy i know, knew. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
where's your sig?
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