Yeah, plus she seems to appear very physically active in an Se-EP sort of way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
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Yeah, plus she seems to appear very physically active in an Se-EP sort of way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
Her username even seems sorta ethical Se-EP positivist.
she's not EP.
she is beta.
she is NF.
I thought she was ENFj, but she is now self-typed as INFp.
Yeah, I noticed that as well but forgot to mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
keep your mind open my friend....open wide! i have self typed as all 16 types at one point or another. i may be wise in certain ways, which i do have *knowings* about, but being objective with myself is not one of them. in keeping your mind open, you may see something that wasn't apparent before.......nonjudgment........Quote:
Originally Posted by strrrng
love
kj
Now that's... definitely the way to go. http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ons/icon14.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
now you're freaking ME out with qbsirena06's picture. i keep reading your words and seeing her face and the two energies are not meshing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
love
kj
Hey, hey. What's all this about my picture freaking you out? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
Hahaha, sorry 'bout that. You 'll have to get used to it I guess. :p :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
Just imagine me sitting next to her. (or below her)
oh your picture is lovely! but it sure doesn't "go" with the energy of winterpark's words. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by qbsirena06
I'M FREAKIN' MAN!!! heehee!
lv
kj
oh thanks for that image! you know where my mind went!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
love
kj
I think that was the idea... lol
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Originally Posted by dbmmama
Don't you just get tired of always writing those last two very important and profound lines in your posts?
Exactly where he wanted it to go because he's a PERVERT!Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
But you love me anyways. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by qbsirena06
no, if i tired of them, the energy i sent in each post would not be of my intention.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
i do love each from the depths of my soul. words are powerful.
love forever and always,
kelly jo
That's much better. From now on use that one instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
those particular subtlties (sp?) are lost on me sometimes. i knew on a certain level he wanted my mind to go there and then it did, but i didn't know it consciously. oh no, i am easily led! hubby does that to me too, especially about sex. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
love
kj
I caught that... you obviously know how to use sigs, as you have something in yours, but you choose to end each of your posts that way. I assumed it was because you enjoy writing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
Don't be so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
Reminds me of some of the SEE's I've been friends with. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
damn! i still thought it was qbsirena06 saying that to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
that's what i say to my kids....... :)
i'll put it in my sig
love forever and always
kelly jo
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
it's different after kids....before kids, we were RABBITS! lol :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
i almost typed love kj again and didn't like not signing it. going back to the other way....
lv
kj
SEE is starting to seem more and more likely... Here's the duality description for SEE/ILI duality. (The Politician is the SEE in the description, of course.)
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© From: V.Meged, A.Ovcharov. Learn To Manage People Efficiently, 2000.
The Critic gives figurative descriptions of expected development of events, and such information is very interesting to The Politician, who has difficulty imagining the outcome of his actions. The Critic counsels with insight and caution, he gives detailed strategies - this is just what the super-active and impulsive Politician really lacks.
Possessing business skills, The Critic immediately notices the best investments and critically speaks of those he considers as a waste of time and energy. In this way he saves The Politician exhaustion and disappointment –that is, if The Politician pays attention to his dual's advice, which does not always happen. But even this is good, because a more slow-moving partner might get discouraged or become complacent. By contrast, such criticizing helps The Politician to find the golden mean in his activities, to use the mean rationally and to be more scrupulous in choosing ways of achieving goals.
Both at work and at home The Critic likes peace and harmony. He values comfort, cleanness and order. However, due to his inertia he does not always achieve what he wants. The Politician likes his thoroughness, polite manners, philosophical tranquility and economical skills.
Since The Critic is vulnerable but not sufficiently flexible and not very diplomatic, he easily spoils his relations with the others. He does not really understand why this happens and he often falls into melancholy and sadness. He needs a cheerful partner who could easily correct his tactical mistakes and not stay resentful over trifles. The Politician will divert attention from a dangerous topic, will tell a compliment at the just the right time or make everything into a joke. The Politician prefers quick and decisive actions. He easily widens the field of activities and breaks down all barriers on the way towards his goal. He does not like covert resistance or crude orders – if he perceives them he will do just the opposite of what was desired.
Strong and self-confident people are attractive to The Critic. Nevertheless, he simply ignores excessive pressure, as if not noticing it. Also he does not accept a challenge, will not fight and by doing this softens the force of The Politician. It awakens in The Politician the understanding that he needs to act more diplomatically, to use persuasion and not a direct attack. If he happens to be at the top of an organization, in order to keep common order he needs a well-wishing and wise partner capable of creating trustful atmosphere of communication, softening arising misunderstandings by demonstrating their relative value.
In this way The Critic serves as a balance to his sometimes-aggressive partner. They both often quarrel with each other but soon come to agreement forgetting all hurts. The Politician demonstrates sympathy and understanding and by this relaxes The Critic. If he responds to his dual’s warnings he can demonstrate his great capacity to handle all difficulties. The Politician does not pay much attention to general regularities and trends. He dislikes clerical work and does not always know rules and instructions. Unwillingly he plans in advance. He does not like to submit to schedules and norms. The Critic helps him distribute his energy and schedules, only the most important, worthy task. He performs detailed work, up to the logical final.
‘Aristocratically polite’ relations with the smack of humor and easy mutual critiquing distinguish this dual pair.
dbmmama, you are turning this into a very interesting conversation for winterpark. I can see his jaw dropping.
I agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
Hahaha, love your new signature. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dbmmama
What's the problem, darling? Am I not allowed to have "interesting" conversations with other people?Quote:
Originally Posted by qbsirena06
Love whenever, wherever, and forever however
Jelly Jaw (aka Winterpark)
All I did was make an observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
nah, that was too dry and boring for me to picture....i go into Ni/Ne land too often to relate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
i am having fun with winterpark myself though... :)
love
kj
my sister thinks i'm delta...
lv
kj
How about this one?
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© From: V.Meged, A.Ovcharov. Learn To Manage People Efficiently, 2000.
The Craftsman easily detects smallest deviations from esthetic standards in the surrounding world; such disharmony makes him feel distressed, awakes in him a feeling of discomfort, the desire to improve the situation, to perfect what he achieved or actually possesses – not only in the material world, but in his intellectual and spiritual development as well. This is why The Craftsman is exigent to himself and often also to the others. He likes nothing drab, trite and banal, strives for improvement of his own, his friends and family, beginning from the appearance and health, and up to the mental development. He is very curious, has wide range of interests, often he is not self-confident because of increased self-criticism. He needs praise of his capabilities, encouragement of his efforts.
The Psychologist is just the kind of person who notices talents of the others, inspires them with belief in their capabilities, readily tells compliments. He notices even hidden capabilities and willingly encourages their development. This in turn very much commands respect of The Craftsman, who does not feel bored with such a partner. The Psychologist is useful to him also because he easily finds solutions to difficult situations, which would otherwise make The Craftsman feel depressed. Being thankful for that, The Craftsman takes care of the mental and external comfort of the one solving his internal problems.
The Psychologist very much needs a caring partner and finds relaxation for his emotional and restless soul in the 'quiet haven' of a friend, who is constant in his words and deeds, reliable and faithful. The Craftsman creates convenience and comfort for The Psychologist, who is not much adapted to the real life, thus giving him the opportunity to focus on spiritual and intellectual values, generate new ideas, which will bring the taste of novelty into their common affairs.
Everyday chores are usually undertaken by The Craftsman, who believes he can do them better. The Psychologist takes initiative in relations, can unite people around himself, and becomes the 'life of the party'. He gains people's favor, willingly advises on solving personal problems. He is a subtle psychologist, who understands well hidden motives of people. He emotionally demonstrates his attitude towards people; his sincerity, warmth and ingenuousness make others forgive his excessive straightforwardness and hot temper. He corrects The Craftsman's ethical mistakes, and often even his own, since he is not rancorous and likes people very much. His trustfulness disarms the incredulous Craftsman, and emotionality softens his more cold-tempered and reserved partner.
The Craftsman is reticent enough and does not like to demonstrate his feelings. He can put a distance in communication, seems to be arrogant and non-sociable. But in the very depths of his soul he is thankful to the person who takes responsibility for ethical issues on himself. He likes The Psychologist's spirit of trust, whose permanent optimism, capability of foreseeing the future and perspectives of various undertakings, finding ways out of any problems. The Psychologist raises The Craftsman's confidence of the future, decrease his skepticism and mistrust towards everything new, not well known or not proven by practice. In addition, The Craftsman is sometimes excessively nervous and mistrustful; he exaggerates possible dangers not to mention real ones. But The Psychologist, who lives more in the future than in the present, 'calculates' everything in advance and in such moments call for caution, and at the same time calms down his partner when an alarm is false.
The Craftsman is very technological and practical. He can work quickly and is well organized. He plans all stages of his work in advance, acquires all the necessary things in advance. He is enduring in perfecting details of his work, can separate important things from trifles, which is not an easy task for The Psychologist. The Psychologist's efficiency of working is high only in critical situations, while routine and monotonous, non-creative work deteriorates his vital tonus, being a source of boredom for this restless creative personality. The Psychologist gladly accepts a role of 'second' or 'assistant', which suits The Craftsman's commanding nature. The Craftsman does not like when others impose on him other ways of doing things than he would prefer. He is strives for real benefit and profit, unlike altruistic Psychologist, and this contributes to growth of material welfare of this dual pair.
The Psychologist needs a partner indulgent enough to his weak points: negligence at work, lack of consideration to rules, norms and hierarchy, outbursts of non-motivated aggression. The Craftsman is indulgent to such, sometimes they even amuse him. He likes the independent nature of The Psychologist, which does not encroach on his own independence.
The characteristic features of this dual pair are the independence from each other, as well as from others, harmony of relations and a restless spirit of creativity and self-development.
Anybody thinking that dbmamma is anything but an intuitive type should seriously go back to her chamber and stop talking about socionics completely.
Joy, please start using that rotten brain of yours, thanks.
I second that! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by FDG
Take a look at this excerpt. It's nothing special, but I like it.
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Valued :Si:
Types that value :Si: prefer to spend their time doing enjoyable activities rather than straining themselves to achieve goals. They like to believe that if activities are done with enjoyment, people will give them more effort and time, and also becoming more skilled (:Ne:) at what they are doing in the long run. They believe that goals should suit people's intrinsic needs rather than shaped by the demands and constraints of the external world.
They also try to be easygoing and pleasant, preferring peaceful coexistence to conflict, except in the most extreme cases. Things tend to be very low-pressure with these types.
This was sort of the type of thing I was talking about when I wrote this btw. :p
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Originally Posted by Joy
I don't really see IEE, but you remind me a lot of an IEI I used to know. I would say Beta NF. :)
I do appreciate and like this Si stuff in the way they describe it....BUT, my mind, energy will begin driiiiiifffftttttinggggggg to the dark side, eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterpark
Logically, you would think that calm=peaceful and serene. And it does for you Deltas. But for me, calm=room for the devil to come in and ZAP your energy. Not a literal devil, dark energy. Been there, no thanks.
My kind of calm is actually :Se:. When I'm stressed, yoga is not the ticket. I need hard and heavy weights, a kickass workout, where I feel strong and powerful against darkness. To fight the inner demons that I just can't get away from.
I "seem" Delta in a lot of ways because I have learned many techniques from them over the years. But, then I twist them into "my thing." I wanted/needed a huge arsenal of "things" that protect me from any and all dark energies. The ultimate is Unconditional Love and Light. :) And so it is.
Thanks for the opportunity to put this into words. :)
Love,
KJ