Type and Hidden Agenda aka Activating 6th Function
I was very impressed when I discovered the "Type & Hidden Agenda" module.
WHAT DOES YOUR HIDDEN AGENDA MEAN TO YOU...EXPLAIN?
Every person has a hidden agenda. This agenda often governs one's intentions and behaviour. People are often unaware of its origin, but can always feel its significance. Some people are more affected by it than other people.
Every type requires an optimal condition in which it can function properly. If such condition does not exist, a person will normally attempt to create it. However, due to the nature of the hidden agenda, if and when the optimal condition is reached, the person will occasionally put themselves in a situation where the stability of this condition is threatened.
There are eight such agendas/optimal conditions:
ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
INTj, INFj => to be healthy
ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
ISFp, INFp => to understand
ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy
ISTj, ISFj => to believe
ESFp, ENFp => to know
INTp, ISTp => to love
The ability to recognise these hidden agendas in people is quite helpful in type identification. Moreover, these agendas are also directly connected with some personal problems an individual might have.
Where there is a problem, there is a solution. The following audio sample is taken from David J. Lieberman's audio book entitled "Get Anyone to Do Anything and Never Feel Powerless Again". If you are an ENTp or ESTp, you will want to listen to this audio example:
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Re: Type and Hidden Agenda
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Originally Posted by Pearl Eighty
ISTJ,ISFJ = To believe
Skeptical, critical, independent, determined, paranoid, sometimes stubborn… yep, that's me!
My family has joked that I BELIEVE NOTHING AND NOONE. Although I don't have to see and feel everything to believe it, I do require overwhelming proof and a healthy respect for your intelligence to be persuaded.
This is very funny and a little scary. I work with and financial manager of this type (one of my bosses :( ) and she seldom believes anything I say dispite the fact Im telling the truth. The worse part of it is Im terrible with sequence and detail so I get facts mixed up. If I say something that is inconsequetial but not 100% correct she thinks "Youre lying again, liar." and Im like " Oh sorry that was Tuesday not Wednesday" Nope. Too late. You are a lier, not to be trusted.
This just adds fuel to the fire. I dont think she is a bad person but she is extreme when it comes to detail from my point of view. Im talking about someone who keeps ALL her personal recipts no matter how trivial the item and keeps a log of her gas milage. When I mentioned this to my friends they all said "Is she Married?"
Honestly its not all her fault. I should be more specific when speaking to her but Its really difficult to remember all the details. Even if I did my best I doubt she would be satisfied.
I really need to find another job. We both would probably rest easier.
Is the hidden agenda put in forth as a priority in all...
...stiuations? Does one "estimate" theings subconsciously or semi consciously according to one's estimative function in any given situation, or is it just something you use on occcasion, like something that comes into priority when your strong functions get used too much, and you need to compensate with some form of balance?
Re: Hidden Agenda anomalies?
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Originally Posted by kopernikus
I'm usually a incurable lurker at these things, but I've been thinking about something that's nagged me.. :)
Alright, so I think everyone sees all the time how there are anomalies and exceptions in intertype theory (conflicting relations going along fine etc.).
However, in all the people I've typed personally, not ONE hasn't manifested their type's hidden agenda in one way or another. So I'm wondering... Does anyone have any experience to the contrary or is HA basically waterproof?
I assume it is called hidden agenda, cos it is not suppose to be obvious. Look at people around you, do you see their genitals? They hide it from other people yet it doesn't stop them from talking about it, capish?
Oh, and I've never seen conflicting relationship going along fine, never!
Re: Hidden Agenda anomalies?
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Originally Posted by reniarbon
I assume it is called hidden agenda, cos it is not suppose to be obvious. Look at people around you, do you see their genitals? They hide it from other people yet it doesn't stop them from talking about it, capish?
Oh, and I've never seen conflicting relationship going along fine, never!
Sorry, I don't see how this answers my question... My point was that even the hidden agenda is hidden, it's pretty obvious after a while, and so I wondered whether anyone ever met someone who seemed not to HAVE the hidden agenda of their type, just like types sometimes seem not to interact with each other in the ways predicted by the theory...
Re: Hidden Agenda anomalies?
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Originally Posted by kopernikus
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Originally Posted by reniarbon
I assume it is called hidden agenda, cos it is not suppose to be obvious. Look at people around you, do you see their genitals? They hide it from other people yet it doesn't stop them from talking about it, capish?
Oh, and I've never seen conflicting relationship going along fine, never!
Sorry, I don't see how this answers my question... My point was that even the hidden agenda is hidden, it's pretty obvious after a while, and so I wondered whether anyone ever met someone who seemed not to HAVE the hidden agenda of their type, just like types sometimes seem not to interact with each other in the ways predicted by the theory...
The point is that after a while and a bottle of booze you may even touch their genitals. But have you ever met someone without genitals? This should answer your question.
On second thought they might have used rmcnew's hidden agenda removing tool on themselves....
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