Looks like some girly LSI, probably 0-+ variant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2oqOVtvHQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6AZgujuvbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOot8prGLrM
Printable View
Looks like some girly LSI, probably 0-+ variant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2oqOVtvHQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6AZgujuvbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOot8prGLrM
She Is
H
O
T
!!!!!!!!!ª
my first thought is ESFp. And I don't think she looks very ISTj. She really seems like a person who would always speak her mind, but she'd try to do it in a polite and friendly way. ISTjs, on the other hand, really don't like to speak their mind, but when they really think they should (or when it really affects them), they do it as fast as they can. They just spit it out, no matter what happens next or who gets offended. It just needed to be said!
I tend to speak my mind, and I'm LII.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristiina
Besides, sometimes, female Logical types try to look more Ethical, because it's more "girly". Female IJ's even try to look more EP-like for the same reasons ; because bubbliness is girly. In fact, Bellucci isn't very bubbly.
Catherine Zeta-Jones illustrates such thing too. But CZJ is S+ instead of S0.
Some girls are ashamed to have a manly cognitive system. In fact, LSI is the manliest type lol. But LSI's have a quite accessible :Se:+ (the girly version of :Se:), and may imitate the feminine, mostly for :Ti:+ reasons. As an Aristocrat, Bellucci thinks "I'm such a girly retard, then I should act like a girly retard" or something :D
In fact, Aristocrats are more aware of their manliness or their girliness than Democrats. Aristocrats try to avoid opposite sex behaviours, because they think "I'm a man" or "I'm a woman". Democrats aren't that ashamed to have such behaviours, even if that doesn't mean they're gays. A LII dude, for example, won't be ashamed to display the bubbliness of girls. LSI's do.
Another example : South Park's Teacher Garrison is EIE -+0. As a dude, he's somewhat ashamed of expressing Ethical behaviours. This leads him to frustration. Then he had a sex change, and by building himself a role of woman, he expressed his :Fe: better. (WARNING: I don't encourage sex changes)
I could definitely see LSI as a possibility, especially taking into account the LSI typings of Catherine Zeta-Jones and Linda Fiorentino, and the similarities one can draw between the three. Whatever the case, I see logical type over ethical type. She barely shows any emotion, either in her films or in real life.
For a fourty-four year old women, she is very attractive.Quote:
Originally Posted by normal
I could definitely see LSI as a possibility, especially taking into account the LSI typings of Catherine Zeta-Jones and Linda Fiorentino, and the similarities one can draw between the three. Whatever the case, I see logical type over ethical type. She barely shows any emotion, either in her films or in real life. And check out the stare on all of those photos that machintruc posted. It's cold and evaluating. She's sizing you up; revealing nothing. Typical Se look is that.
For a fourty-four year old women, she is very attractive.Quote:
Originally Posted by normal
Employing law of opposites, this makes ENFps the girliest type... Agree or disagree?Quote:
Originally Posted by machintruc
Though I was joking, the common stereotype of a dude (in our culture) is LSI. Girliest type would be EIE.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuJu
You wish.
Watch some interviews, watch movies with her. Her natural demeanor is far too serious; she doesn't use Fe naturally at all.
Okay.
Well I'm watching an interview right now (I have seen her in movies and I've watched interviews of her before)
Can you elaborate on her seriousness and how that means she cannot be SEI?
What about her is not Fe?
I am not adamant on her type, but I liked the SEI typing at a glance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7j-MJjDs8U&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7j-MJjDs8U&feature=related
Here she seems Image triad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_JN8hco_0
Look how she reacts to his Si/Ne "light-heartedness." She just talks, she doesn't care for any of his little games; they even make her nervous at points. She's very formal, modest, and restrained, "serious" with an intensity, not in a sterile Gamma kind of seriousness.
that guy is a bit of a douche lol
anyways, I can see the "seriousness" you speak of. I feel its Fe though. Fe ISFp's seem more "refined" to me. Bellucci reminds me off Audrey Hepburn. Same sort of refined, ummm "subtley artistic". Sorry theres a word I can't think of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLEQpWhSI8
Hepburn is much more reactive, more expressive, touchier; I can see a similarity in their brand of formality, but it's clear that Hepburn is TRYING to be cautious, to be extremely tactful with what she is saying, cautious of offending people.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOxoW9iHQYk"]YouTube - Audrey Hepburn (1/4) on The Phil Donahue Show, 1990[/ame]
You sure Hepburn is SEI? That would certainly not be my typing of her; more like Beta NF.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJEvGLsDtcw&feature=related"]YouTube - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: MISS AUDREY HEPBURN[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVQ0nAgRnf4&feature=related"]YouTube - Audrey Hepburn: Tony Awards Acceptance Speech (1968)[/ame]
PS, way to use posed photos with "Si emphasis" to reinforce your typing.
Hmm okay. I think Bellucci is 3w4, though and Hepburn 4w3. To me, there is not a sizeable difference in their communication to be as far away as benefit. Also, I don't think she fits in with what my conception of an ISTj woman is. I dont really have anything solid to convince you with (just my intuition and comparing her to other people), hence I exit for now.
edit: Yes Im sure Hepburn is Fe ISFp.
http://www.takegreatpictures.com/con...rn_1965_2_.jpghttp://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Aud...C10101762.jpeg
^ Bee
And I just picked the pictures that seemed most fair to the "average" of all the pictures I saw.
Ok, I accept that you are wrong.
lol, whatever is most "wise".
HAR HAR HAR
Good thing I don't give you my real buzzwords; then we'd have to fight.
This one is definitely LSI. Extremely hot subtype.
How is her seriousness indicative of beta at all? She's refined and has a very smooth energy. I'm not exactly sure about any specific "intensity," or how said thing would point to beta. SEIs can be reserved, serious, refined and possess intensity; not all of them are lighthearted histrionics lol. Anyway.
"Se":
http://www.enjoyfrance.com/images/st...cci-france.jpg
Se:
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famec...ham-9.jpeg.jpg
Notice the distinct difference in their eyes – Bellucci has a smooth receptivity, whereas Beckham has a very direct, firm quality.
Onto other pastures...
Serious and refined:
http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/...i/51613682.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artis...iography-2.jpg
Again, look at the stark difference in their eyes – McAdams has the same direct, fixated quality as Beckham.
Anyway, I'm not sure where this notion of LSIs being these formal, refined people comes from; if anything, beta ST females are some of the most emotionally unrefined individuals you can encounter. It makes a lot more sense, functionally-speaking, that alpha SFs will possess these qualities to the most prominent degree, as the pairing of Fe and Si sort of necessitates it.
One more for good measure.
http://eyes1.busythumbs.com/users/a/...ellucci027.jpg
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image.../megan-fox.jpg
Ok, I purposely juxtaposed these "look at me sexy" pictures to highlight the significance: that not all beta STs look like hardass bitches, and not all alpha SFs look like fluff bunnies. However, the difference is flagrantly obvious to me: Bellucci's energy is smooth, soft and refined, whereas Fox's is very stern, direct and immobile.
She's very pretty but frightens me for some reason, LSI makes sense, although I'm mainly basing this on a superficial impression as I don't know a lot about her
ahahaha... yep :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimosa Pudica
Eh, I can't see any reason for why she'd be a thinking type. In every interview (at least in those that i've seen) she comes across as soft, considerate and reserved - which is part of her charm. LSI women can be charming and femminine but they're often more upfront/blunt and less hesitant.
I would not put a lot of stock into VIing based on smoothness of facial features and similar stuff because she has a really typical italian look (obviously, not every girl is as attractive as her, but the features are similar), I've seen it in girls of various types.
She's also not a 3 at all...she's not an energetic woman. She is extremely calm and composed, a bit hesitant - 9 or 6, I'd guess.
Why do my pants feel tight now?
She could be ESI or SEI
Fe, IEI(?)
my guess would be ESI.
i have a feeling this is going to be an angelina jolie thing.
can anyone point to something other than demeanour, like something she says in interviews, that points you towards a certain type?
Now that you mention it... can we retype Jolie? I don't want her lips in my dyad. They're gross!Quote:
Originally Posted by implied
ENTP, for exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by Coolanzon
I'm leaning more towards ESI>LSI after watching a video of her on Youtube, although nothings in stoneQuote:
Originally Posted by sarinana
the first photo is not of Audrey Hepburn. It is very, very clearly an imitation/wannabe-lookalike photo. If you can't even recognise that, then you might want to review your facial idenfication skills before you try VI
bump.
ESI, likely Se sub.
strangely enough I'm very aware she's gorgeous, but she doesn't tell me much beyond that. I wouldn't say irresistibly hot. Maybe just not my type.
Monica Bellucci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_JN8hco_0
My guess is ESI. Leading Fi and creative Se.
She has that dark, moody, sensual ESI vibe.
Creative Se has the "sexiest" vibe of all the types (just my personal opinion/observation).
Its like an overt but subtle confidence. She gives off an aggressor vibe.
Attachment 11060Attachment 11061
Thoughts?
She's hot, I agree with ESI.
@sorrows Older thread (with similar conclusions afair).
LSI or ESI at a glance imo.
Back in the day. My Lord. She was a stone cold fox. A voraciously volumptuous, vivacious, vexing vixen. Love her. She can play Se well.
SLE women have the sexiest vibe, like, when they're also bad people too. Bombshell descriptor for a reason
deleted
Lsi se
her made up voice when she speaks italian is the most disturbing thing :/
SEI-Si (4w3?)
anyone notice the resemblance to olimpia
SEI
I agree with this based on the first interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by FDG
I think IEI. She seems dreamy and soft, and describes wanting to escape her provincial life through the fantasy of the movies. Uses a lot of emotional vocabulary, describes how she felt "loved, accepted" in the French film industry. She also observes herself how she has ended up doing some really violent and controversial films, says that it's because she's interested in exploring "our dark side". Says that the most important thing is "that the director has a vision".
She's an LSI-Se.
I don't know for sure about LSI-Se; maybe ESI-Se. But almost pretty sure creative Se creative function subtype. Has that Ij Se-subtype femininity.
Seems to be Fe-valuing though, doesn't seem ESI-Se as much because she's so serious but then a lot of LSI-Se are playful but not to the level some ESI-Se are. Porsha Lippincott is an example of a very playful ESI-Se.
To compare how an LSI-Se Dr Dre's playfulness/goofiness when he raps and to ESI-Se eminem's is that eminem and slim shady were serious and angry when rapping and it was a complete way for marshall to discharge his anger from situations that were serious to them; Marshall's usually easygoing in interviews sometimes he gets irritated or more animated when he's just being marshall though. From all that I've heard, he jokes all the time and is goofy with people who are close to him. Dr. Dre is probably more domineering when he's in private, not filmed with people he cares about. Both men have decent social skills, but Marshall comes across as more awkward, Dr. Dre has that LSI natural vibe that ILE-Ti and SLE-Ti (and some but not all ESI-Se and practically no ESI-Fi) have.
Since I've started reading about socionics I've wondered if I'm an LSE or an LSI-Ti, but ESI-Fi seems to fit me more; ESI seems more likely for me simply because I have no need for belonging, I hate rules placed on me, I usually don't like placing rules on others, I hate relations of subordination (occasionally I feel like submitting but only if the relationship requires it or for sexual excitement and pleasure), and I have no real need for power or dominance (other than people thinking me speaking my mind is dominating) and the fact that I've never been employed. Also, ESI have demons swimming in their head, they're attentive to them and talk about them while LSI-Ti are less likely to have so many demons about so many things and awareness of internal racing thoughts and internal speech and if they do I guess they keep it private. LSI-Ti usually seem more willing to give up their freedom if they see it as necessary to make it to the top (but some LSI-Ti do practical work, but that's not good enough for me, I need to do something significant and hugely different). And I doubt they'd be such a sap for and love to see the Danny Devito-Directed film Matilda over and over and over again since first seeing it in 1996. I'm also more open to what Ne can bring than LSI-Ti tend to be, they have the weakest Ne in the socion and are the most closed to it unless it's for their goals (LSI-Se can have strong Ne). LSI-Ti also aren't as likely to verbalize that they hate something or someone so directly as an irritated ESI-Fi is. I have always aimed to be outside of a pre-existing system so that's why I don't see LSI-Ti for me. I had some serious terrible internal sensory-emotional reactions to my EIE dad's Fe when I was younger and my mom was never impressed by it either.
A very beautiful woman. I think she's a Se ego.