What do you call a 3 who cares far more about freedom than (s)he does about being impressive?
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What do you call a 3 who cares far more about freedom than (s)he does about being impressive?
a seven?
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Well? Still waiting to hear about these 3's that care far, far more about independence and freedom than image and being impressive.
thanks niffweed
Best way to tell the difference between an Eight and Three practically, is to look at how they express themselves and their anger. First off, the Eight's anger is an issue, just like it is for the One and the Nine. It's not for the Three, but that doesn't mean they don't get angry. They do. Eights aren't just dominating and controlling; this can apply to Ones too. They do this aggressively (which can, in some ways, be likened to the One, except that the One is far more repressed in their anger). When the Eight is angry, they express it freely and directly. They don't lose it and throw a hissy fit, like a counterphobic Six. Nonetheless, in the 8w7, because people are so accustomed to the Eight's aggressive manner of speech, when they get angry, it's nothing new. The 8w7 looks and sounds angry all the time (unless healthy); people are used to their forcefulness. And with me, especially, I find people's reactions are little different when I raise my voice and am genuinely angry than when I'm just trying to get what I want; say, for example, I'm sat in a room, I want to watch TV, and my brother comes in and plays guitar. I'll tell him to play it upstairs or put headphones on. If he was here first he'll say "No, fuck off, I was here first". Eventually, it'll descend into "get the fuck upstairs, you piece of shit". A Three would never descend into this kind of talk with people. It's completely unthinkable. However, an Eight would, and so would a Seven (my brother's a 7w6, probably an SEE). Threes are diplomatic, charming individuals. They know how to get what they want without descending into instinctual aggression. People are far more likely to react positively to the Three's desires than they are to the Eight's, regardless of whether or not the Three is lying or being deceitful. The Eight may not get what they want through pure usage of aggression and force, especially not the 8w7, who will normally adopt this approach throughout their entire life, because it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, but they're not thinking about the fact that it doesn't. (An 8w9 is a different case, by the way; I won't go into this because it doesn't matter right now - you're not asking whether you're an 8w9 or another type, you're asking about 8w7 or another type.)
Read this Eight/Three misidentification for more information. I've not found a better one yet.
*I just want to point out that although the sentence above it might make you think "wow, LIE and Eight are a perfect fit", just in the same way Salawa and Expat believe that Fe base is a better fit than Te base for Three, so too do I believe that based on the boldened sentence, Se base is a better fit than Te base for Eight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riso & Hudson
This is why there's no possibility that I'm 3 > 8.
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By contrast, power is not the key motive of Threes; achieving success and prestige and basking in the admiring attention of others is. (By contrast, Eights do not care about popularity; they do not care about the goodwill of others, so long as they get their way.) If Eights are natural leaders, Threes are natural managers and technicians. If Eights do not fear failure as such, Threes fear failure deeply because they see it as a personal humiliation, a potential occasion for being rejected, their deepest fear. By contrast, Eights see failure as an opportunity to learn something and come back stronger. If Eights are too busy achieving their purposes to worry about public opinion, Threes live and die on the opinions of others and desperately want to be in demand socially. If average Eights are combative and intimidating and can "take the heat", despite a certain bravado, average Threes will back down or be driven to deviousness: they cannot take pressure for long or exposure for a moment. In short, even average Eights are the "genuine article," whereas average Threes are an imitation of it.
And then there's this...
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Type 8 The Challenger
Ignore physical needs and problems: avoid medical visits and check-ups. Indulging in rich foods, alcohol, tobacco while pushing self too hard leads to high stress, strokes, and heart conditions. Control issues central, although alcoholism and narcotic addictions are possible.
Nobody can say "I'm an E3" because it's a paradox :
E3 = liar
"I'm an E3" = "I'm a liar"
But didn't you lie while saying you were a liar ?
Then, nobody can say "I'm an E3".
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